Game now unbalanced, update destroyed game play.

Here's my problem with the update


My town hall was updated to 9 about a day and a half before the update. My defenses are town hall level 8. But I am being penalized for upgrading my hall. AfterI upgraded I had about 2mil gold and about 800 k elixer. Spent most all the gold building the new walls, figuring I would raid to gain enough to start the other new items. In the past week playing several hours a day, I have made about 1mil gold, and about 300k elixer.


It's nearly impossible to find a fight that pays more than it costs me to fight. Everyone was saying people are spending after the update. however, that is not the problem. To illustrate this I will recount the last attack on my camp and revenge. Please not note I was attacked after going out for a smoke, so it was under 10 minutes and basically nothing was in the pumps and mines.


I had a little over 1million elixer, and about 600k gold, and about 6k DE.
The attacker had a level 7 town hall, using several dragons, giants, king, minions, and several other smaller troops. He managed to get 1 gold storage and 1elixer storage, I have 3, and do about 1/10 damage to a level 3 DE storage. but no damage to any other storage.


For his effect he received a little over 100k elixer, 55k gold, and 80 DE.


So...
100k+ from about 370k actual amount in the storage.
55k from about 200k actual amount in the storage.
80 from 10% of 6k or 600


That's about 30% of resources and over 10% for DE.


After checking his camp I saw he had 4 mil gold in 2 storages, and 1.5 mil elixer in 2 storages, and about 6k DE in a level 1 storage. On a fluke I hit revenge and he happened to be AFK. So I attacked.


Out of 4 mil, I was allowed to steal 100k gold
Out of 1.5 mil, I was allowed to steal just under 50k elixer.
Also for the DE, allowed about 60


Not saying this is what I actually took, just that is all I was allowed to steal.


That's less than 10% of resources.


So, even though I don't have most the benefits of the town hall 9, mainly because there is no way for me to get enough resources now to do that, I am severely penalized.


I can't upgrade lab, troops or anything else really, so my game is basicly over.


Don't believe the spin artists, saying its because of people spending their resources, it's not. It's because they deliberately made it worthless to play beyond town hall level 8 unless you were lucky enough to have already done so and managed to have enough time to upgrade your defenses, labs, and troops to level 6.


Well I am done with the game super cell has proved to me that their work is not worthy of my cash.

Yep, TH 9 loot is the worst in the game. The loot penalty hits you the hardest and the update just reduced what you can raid from storages, in some cases, by up to 20%.

Check out the loot guide link in my sig for more specifics.

Edit: also sounds like you rushed your TH, which makes it very difficult. Focus on army camps and maxxing out farming troops to help get you back on track.

There is nothing shockingly different here... If the person you attacked is level 7 the max you get from storages is 100k..

You all complain way to much, upgraded my town hall to level 9 and it finished on April 6. I realize this is before the loot penalty with this new update but I had more than enough time in the 10 days it took to build to max out my gold and elixer so the moment the town hall finished I stated my lab to level 7 (for level 6 troops) and 2 bows. I then quickly did some raids to start the new archer tower and air defense.

Now, even with the update the loot isnt that bad, i have more than enough gold to keep my builders busy, (I have never understood people that leave builders un used unless for walls, i paid for them, they are gonna work every moment for the rest of their lives), so even now after the new penalty i am able to keep all 5 builders busy when my upgrades cost a minimum of 2.5 mil gold and 2.25 mil elixir.

Edit: Also its all about defenses, i haven't been 2 starred in 12 days, approx. when my xbows finished and even then they only stole 40k gold and 100k elixer which is like 1/2 a raid.

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Originally Posted by thejords

There is nothing shockingly different here... If the person you attacked is level 7 the max you get from storages is 100k..

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Actually that's not true unless they did it in the update before this one, I was often smashed by th 9s with them getting full loot rights when I had th 7. However, I did not find that a problem as I could raid for resources just as well and at a reduced cost.

And if you find nothing different for your self, why even bother playing such a lame game, when there are much better for the same or less cost , or if your a hard core gemmer, much less cost?

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Originally Posted by Simplyfate

Actually that's not true unless they did it in the update before this one, I was often smashed by th 9s with them getting full loot rights when I had th 7. However, I did not find that a problem as I could raid for resources just as well and at a reduced cost.

And if you find nothing different for your self, why even bother playing such a lame game, when there are much better for the same or less cost , or if your a hard core gemmer, much less cost?

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It was brought in with a previous update that 2 townhalls down (L9 attacking L7) would get a max 100k from storages. If you saw anything higher it was a combination of storages AS WELL AS mines/pumps.

Not sure why you waste your time playing if you think it is such a lame game; I especially find it odd you feel the need to go into a forum and post? :confused:
If the game bothers you, adapt somehow or quit... although I don't recommend that as the game is still great!

i'm TH 9 before the update normal loot, after the update it just seems to be collector/mine base every second raid :)

Honestly, this isn't completely my experience since the update. I'm TH9, and since the update have raided about 7.5 mill gold. My elixir is almost full at 7.8 mill. As I'm waiting on lvl6 archers to upgrade I'm gonna have to start donating loads of pekkas just to get rid of the stuff. I've won 85 star attacks and am doing fine. My little league must be appalled at me for being higher in wins than anyone else by a country mile. And I was out all day today, not on CoC at all.

The loot is there, have picked up a few 450k bases, but mainly just easily beating 150k ones with half my army and occasional heroes. i don't even need spells most of the time, apart from lightning to blast CC troops if I feel nasty.

It isn't great, but it can be done. I'm enJoying it!

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Originally Posted by thejords

It was brought in that 2 townhalls down (L9 attacking L7) would get a max 100k from storages. If you saw anything higher it was a combination of storages AS WELL AS mines/pumps

Not sure why you waste your time playing if you think it is such a lame game; I especially find it odd you feel the need to go into a forum and post? :confused:
If the game bothers you, adapt somehow or quit... although I don't recommend that as the game is still great!

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Well, if you actually read my post, you would see that quitting this game is exactly what I am doing.

Also no they stole the resources from the storages, I used have very low level pumps and mines, only updated the, recently, there was no way they could steal anywhere near 100k from them.

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Originally Posted by Simplyfate

Well, if you actually read my post, you would see that quitting this game is exactly what I am doing.

Also no they stole the resources from the storages, I used have very low level pumps and mines, only updated the, recently, there was no way they could steal anywhere near 100k from them.

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Hmmm well unless you can show me a pic of a +100k raid from a recent battle by a L9 I would say you are missing something somewhere.

And as for you quitting i'm sorry to hear that, good luck!

OP how many trophies do you have?

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Originally Posted by Simplyfate

Well, if you actually read my post, you would see that quitting this game is exactly what I am doing.

Also no they stole the resources from the storages, I used have very low level pumps and mines, only updated the, recently, there was no way they could steal anywhere near 100k from them.

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Thats cos th7s get loot multiplyer bonus over th9. Th9 gets penalty. The game is designed to discourage farming now.

Personally, im th9 recently too. Last night, i did 62 next skips to find a single decent base to raid at 1450 trophies. This morning, decided to stop playing after 30 skips. Then ill try again later. Where exactly do th9s farm these days?

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Originally Posted by Siv75

Thats cos th7s get loot multiplyer bonus over th9. Th9 gets penalty. The game is designed to discourage farming now.

Personally, im th9 recently too. Last night, i did 62 next skips to find a single decent base to raid at 1450 trophies. This morning, decided to stop playing after 30 skips. Then ill try again later. Where exactly do th9s farm these days?

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I have found success at 1200-1400, as well as (likely more) success at 1700-1900, but if your defense is not at near maxxed levels then at ~1900 it is tough to hang as revenge attacks are common from stronger players there.

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Originally Posted by thejords

Hmmm well unless you can show me a pic of a +100k raid from a recent battle by a L9 I would say you are missing something somewhere.

And as for you quitting i'm sorry to hear that, good luck!

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Excuse me, but I said when my th was level 7, which was not recently, nor didmI say it was. I am fine with not getting more than 100k from a level 7 as long as that is all they can get from my storages. Apparently no matter how many storages I have they still get half of what is allowed anyway from 1, that plenty of an advantage for them.

But I said my piece, and will no longer check this post or any other on the forums as I am done with this game.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

OP how many trophies do you have?

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For your reference , I had 1260 when Update happened, I have about 1550 now.

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Originally Posted by Siv75

Thats cos th7s get loot multiplyer bonus over th9. Th9 gets penalty. The game is designed to discourage farming now.

Personally, im th9 recently too. Last night, i did 62 next skips to find a single decent base to raid at 1450 trophies. This morning, decided to stop playing after 30 skips. Then ill try again later. Where exactly do th9s farm these days?

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Yes, it designed to discourage playing in my opinion, I guess they expect to make their fortune off of kids with lax parents and twenty somethings with ego problems that buy their way to the top.

Good luck with game, won't be surprised if you quit playing altogether like me.

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Originally Posted by Simplyfate

Excuse me, but I said when my th was level 7, which was not recently, nor didmI say it was. I am fine with not getting more than 100k from a level 7 as long as that is all they can get from my storages. Apparently no matter how many storages I have they still get half of what is allowed anyway from 1, that plenty of an advantage for them.

But I said my piece, and will no longer check this post or any other on the forums as I am done with this game.

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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I'd love to know why some are gloating about all the loots they're still coming across, with only a few searches to find it. Because I'm hitting 'Next' like mad trying to find bases with anything over 20K+ I come across the [very] odd decent loot base, but maybe 1 in 10 attacks ... I end up settling for much less than what was normal pre-update ... When we say there's a lack of it, then there is. But, like everything on here, you'll get shot down for any kind of complaint by those who float on fluffy clouds where the sun must rise every morning ... :D

Weird thing is, there seemed to be good loot for a couple days after the update and then today/last night it just dried up....

The quitters seem to have been removed from the available attacks as well.

Also, I really hate the stupid noobs who claim they are farming when they find a 200k-300k bases but took 100+ searches to get it.

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Originally Posted by Thecageyone

I'd love to know why some are gloating about all the loots they're still coming across, with only a few searches to find it. Because I'm hitting 'Next' like mad trying to find bases with anything over 20K+ I come across the [very] odd decent loot base, but maybe 1 in 10 attacks ... I end up settling for much less than what was normal pre-update ... When we say there's a lack of it, then there is. But, like everything on here, you'll get shot down for any kind of complaint by those who float on fluffy clouds where the sun must rise every morning ... :D

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Yes, how dare we voice our opinions like this was a forum or something!
It's not like anyone on here has any kind of opinion that counts....most people that have the time to post are losers that live in their mothers basement and are socially awkward with any other human being....

Ummm... I don't have time to finish this... I have ummm... To call... Ummm someone i know... Really!

This is nothing about update. It's a known TH9 issue.

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Originally Posted by RegaliaRemix

Also, I really hate the stupid noobs who claim they are farming when they find a 200k-300k bases but took 100+ searches to get it.

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Me too.. They mindlessly keep hitting next until they see big numbers then empty out their entire army camp, but call anyone that evaluates each base based on resources available vs troop cost and training time a "lazy" farmer.

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Originally Posted by Thecageyone

I'd love to know why some are gloating about all the loots they're still coming across, with only a few searches to find it. Because I'm hitting 'Next' like mad trying to find bases with anything over 20K+ I come across the [very] odd decent loot base, but maybe 1 in 10 attacks ... I end up settling for much less than what was normal pre-update ... When we say there's a lack of it, then there is. But, like everything on here, you'll get shot down for any kind of complaint by those who float on fluffy clouds where the sun must rise every morning ... :D

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With you again on this one bro. I think the same way people exaggerate how bad it is, there are those who exaggerate how good things are. And if they aren't exaggerating, they are either insanely lucky or extremely skilled farmers. I'm feeling lazy, so I won't rewrite what I wrote earlier today and just post it instead:

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Originally Posted by subtletea

And I'm saying that the majority of people are not getting 200k gold and elixir per raid because they cannot find it. I played all day yesterday between 1300-1600 and only got one 200k+ raid. There is no reason for me to lie. There is no reason for others to lie. Are some people exaggerating their misfortune? I'm sure they are. People kind of have a tendency to do that. It might get better, but if you take a candy away from a baby with the promise of returning it later, it doesn't stop the baby from crying. And more importantly, you shouldn't then go to the baby and tell them to stop crying because the candy wasn't taken from them to begin with. Your original post is just insulting because you assume that because everything is hunky dory for you, then everyone else obviously must be lying. We are all the centers of our own universes, but it benefits us to step out of our own bubbles from time to time.

Read the multiple threads on the topic and see what people have to say. If your confusion stems from your ignorance, that's on you mate. If you are willfully being ignorant and dismissive, then that's on you all the more.

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The game is still playable, and since we are all in the same boat, I don't mind drifting with y'all :p

Reading all these posts has again confirmed my plan that I had all along. Max absolutely EVERYTHING at th8 before I even think about th9

cheers

Well, as a "quite new" Th9-er myself (more than 29days old?*edited edited* since i started my 2 xbow right after my th9 finishes and then two max level wiz tower upgrade at 5m+ each after the 7days of xbow upgrade and the 3rd max level wiz tower the day after(my 5th builder was bought *edited*. my 3rd max level wiz tower is finishing today in an hr time so... it's around 18days.) Okay anyway back to topic. Yes it is definitely much more difficult to farm at th9 as compared to when i was in th7 and th8. But it is definitely not so crazy as what many of you describe. I farmed at around 1.7~1.8k cups till the update came and it hit me quite hard as i can hardly find any th9 base with more than 100k to attack (i attack th9 most of the time as a challenge). Then i decided to drop down to 1.4k cups to try my luck and TADA, i'm finding bases with 150k+ resources within 10~15 searches (which is quite good at th9 IMO) And my 5 builders is always working on the clock *since i paid for them, they are my slave*

So what i'm trying to say here is that the game is still playable although it's much more difficult to farm at th9. Don't give up and find the most suitable cup range to farm.

P.S : i'm not the best farmer around so if i can do it, so can you (i'm quite a lazy farmer actually as i always farm slowly till the last 1 or 2 days before my worker is free, then i'll rush farm). For anyone who thinks that i'm just talking Bulls here or trolling here, feel free to visit my soso base in clan SG PIRATES, i'm solitude. Cheers and clash on :)

Hmm, i've been stalking clan Exploitation and their TH9ers seems to be doing fine. All builders busy, storages full.

I might be wrong but Exploitation members don't gem resources right? If so, it shows that TH9 is playable and farmable.

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Well, as a "quite new" Th9-er myself (around 18days old? since i started my 2 xbow right after my th9 finishes and then two max level wiz tower upgrade at 5m+ each after the 7days of xbow upgrade and the 3rd max level wiz tower the day after. my 3rd max level wiz tower is finishing today in an hr time so... it's around 18days.) Okay anyway back to topic. Yes it is definitely much more difficult to farm at th9 as compared to when i was in th7 and th8. But it is definitely not so crazy as what many of you describe. I farmed at around 1.7~1.8k cups till the update came and it hit me quite hard as i can hardly find any th9 base with more than 100k to attack (i attack th9 most of the time as a challenge). Then i decided to drop down to 1.4k cups to try my luck and TADA, i'm finding bases with 150k+ resources within 10~15 searches (which is quite good at th9 IMO) And my 5 builders is always working on the clock *since i paid for them, they are my slave*

So what i'm trying to say here is that the game is still playable although it's much more difficult to farm at th9. Don't give up and find the most suitable cup range to farm.

P.S : i'm not the best farmer around so if i can do it, so can you (i'm quite a lazy farmer actually as i always farm slowly till the last 1 or 2 days before my worker is free, then i'll rush farm). For anyone who thinks that i'm just talking Bulls here or trolling here, feel free to visit my soso base in clan SG PIRATES, i'm solitude. Cheers and clash on :)

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To have level 6 giants and archers you'd have to have th 9 for at least 29 days, unless you gemmed.. Of course the game is still playable if you buy gems.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

To have level 6 giants and archers you'd have to have th 9 for at least 29 days, unless you gemmed.. Of course the game is still playable if you buy gems.

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Gemming the upgrade times doesn't mean you don't need to farm for the resources to upgrade.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

To have level 6 giants and archers you'd have to have th 9 for at least 29 days, unless you gemmed.. Of course the game is still playable if you buy gems.

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Well as the person below you replied. I used the remaining gems I had after buying my 5th builder to gem a few days. Besides that I don't gem. And FYI it's 14days for lvl6 archers and 10 for giants so its 24days.. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by solitude

Well as the person below you replied. I used the remaining gems I had after buying my 5th builder to gem a few days. Besides that I don't gem. And FYI it's 14days for lvl6 archers and 10 for giants so its 24days.. Cheers!

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TH 9's that have 40-50 level 6 wall pieces, 3 level 8 pieces and the rest level 7 aren't the type that typically have 7.5 mil in elixir ready to go for level 6 archers, so it doesn't seem like a leap to think you'd just gem up the elixir too while you were gemming the days.. And you need a level 7 lab to get level 6 archers and giants. That takes 5 days, but you must have just gemmed that too.

To be quite honest it has been an odd few days since the update, I have experienced complete polar opposite outcomes to many raids. I am farming of course, townhall 9, I'm a decent farmer at townhall 9, and I have had some raids where I spend 100k and don't find anything, then 22 minutes later during the next raid, I get 375/300. So I see both sides of the dilemma, after the 2 maintenance breaks I did see some better elixir, gold was decent, but I feel like its still too early to jump on the quitters band wagon. I think we should give it a week or two and if things don't change or gain some sense of consistency with good/decent raids then all aboard the wagon. Just my thoughts :/

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

TH 9's that have 40-50 level 6 wall pieces, 3 level 8 pieces and the rest level 7 aren't the type that typically have 7.5 mil in elixir ready to go for level 6 archers, so it doesn't seem like a leap to think you'd just gem up the elixir too while you were gemming the days.. And you need a level 7 lab to get level 6 archers and giants. That takes 5 days, but you must have just gemmed that too.

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My bad on the calculation, forgot about the lab. Didn't upgrade my walls as I don't think itis that big of a thing to my defense for the cup level I'm farming at. But yeah I don't gem my research lab. Just a few days or my upgrade(one)

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

TH 9's that have 40-50 level 6 wall pieces, 3 level 8 pieces and the rest level 7 aren't the type that typically have 7.5 mil in elixir ready to go for level 6 archers, so it doesn't seem like a leap to think you'd just gem up the elixir too while you were gemming the days.. And you need a level 7 lab to get level 6 archers and giants. That takes 5 days, but you must have just gemmed that too.

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And just to add on, gemming resources is not my thing. CHEERS!!

I realised why people are talking about my 24days + 5days for lab and research. My previous post was abit flawed. what i meant was i managed to farm all the gold and elixir before worker are free-ed up, thus adding up to 18days ;/. i only had 4 builders until quite a few days back when i brought my 5th so there is a few days leap before my 3rd max level wizard which makes up for the few days extra. i don't mean i had been at th9 for 18 days, 29 to be exact. Sorry for the mistake.(or i should say 28 since i gemmed a day off my archer) haha.

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Originally Posted by solitude

My bad on the calculation, forgot about the lab. Didn't upgrade my walls as I don't think itis that big of a thing to my defense for the cup level I'm farming at. But yeah I don't gem my research lab. Just a few days or my upgrade(one)

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I can't speak for all farmers but for me, and many like me, upgrading walls isn't for defense, it's because my gold storages are constantly full and I need to do something with the gold so I can keep farming. Since you clearly don't have that problem, it would be very rare that you could still immediately get the 16.5 million in elixir needed for level 6 archers and giants.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

I can't speak for all farmers but for me, and many like me, upgrading walls isn't for defense, it's because my gold storages are constantly full and I need to do something with the gold so I can keep farming. Since you clearly don't have that problem, it would be very rare that you could still immediately get the 16.5 million in elixir needed for level 6 archers and giants.

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2 things:

1. You can only hold 8 million.
2. You have that much gold? Wow. I'm impressed.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

I can't speak for all farmers but for me, and many like me, upgrading walls isn't for defense, it's because my gold storages are constantly full and I need to do something with the gold so I can keep farming. Since you clearly don't have that problem, it would be very rare that you could still immediately get the 16.5 million in elixir needed for level 6 archers and giants.

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It is very easy to farm for the elixir needed within the upgrade days before archer finish (which is 14) who can't farm 6m in 14days??... And it took me the exact same amount of days while upgrading my last elixir storage to max (another calculation flaw here) for me to farm up the elixir for archer. I typically just let my maxed out storage stay there because all my workers are busy working and I start another upgrade right after it finishes and the upgrade usually take all the gold (starting my lvl2 xbow soon, hopefully in an hr time when i get the last 1.4m) so, no time for walls

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Originally Posted by JJSCHMITTY

2 things:

1. You can only hold 8 million.
2. You have that much gold? Wow. I'm impressed.

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I guess he always have a builder free on stand by for him to upgrade his walls ( if what I understood was right) lol

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Originally Posted by JJSCHMITTY

2 things:

1. You can only hold 8 million.
2. You have that much gold? Wow. I'm impressed.

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1. I can only hold 6 million.
2. I don't have 6 million gold because I put it into my walls.

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Originally Posted by Andwer123

To be quite honest it has been an odd few days since the update, I have experienced complete polar opposite outcomes to many raids. I am farming of course, townhall 9, I'm a decent farmer at townhall 9, and I have had some raids where I spend 100k and don't find anything, then 22 minutes later during the next raid, I get 375/300. So I see both sides of the dilemma, after the 2 maintenance breaks I did see some better elixir, gold was decent, but I feel like its still too early to jump on the quitters band wagon. I think we should give it a week or two and if things don't change or gain some sense of consistency with good/decent raids then all aboard the wagon. Just my thoughts :/

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A very honest and measured testimony. I agree that we need to step back and take sometime to see how everything pans out, but it doesn't hurt to discuss in the meantime^^ Personally, I think the loot percentage changes will have long term effects, but the community always bounces back and more importantly, farmers will find a way to afford their upgrades LOL The ship could come to a complete stop and I'd continue to just take in the view. So no wagon for me, and my suspicions are you won't be jumping on the wagon anytime soon either :o

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Originally Posted by RegaliaRemix

Also, I really hate the stupid noobs who claim they are farming when they find a 200k-300k bases but took 100+ searches to get it.

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haha... i defo agree.. no need to search that much to find good loots :(


But "real farming" isn't farming mines and collectors sorry.... Yet again i cant blame anyone who farms this way if he/she get the loot that he/she wants... with the latest loot cap at Storages ....More and more People will start using the mines/collectors Lazy farming....

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

Me too.. They mindlessly keep hitting next until they see big numbers then empty out their entire army camp, but call anyone that evaluates each base based on resources available vs troop cost and training time a "lazy" farmer.

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You lazy farming deal with it .... i don't ...


I did my lazy run yesterday... Just to write a "HOW TO" farm millions per hours .... but i wont .... Clearly here we have the best farmers in here.... no one need me to explain them how to lazy farm....

-Pre cue 20 wbs
-Archers barbs constant all the barrack
-Minions in the dark barracks
-U can squeeze many attacks per Hour (6-10)
-Search abandoned towns with exposed mines n collectors.... ( Supercell made it even easier now ... No badge at all lol )
-... Repeat ... Repeat....
- Gratz! You now earned your No-Lifer Badge :)




And yeah you can Farm millions per hour this way.... ( i dropped from 1500 to 960 doing my lazy run yesterday har... har...)



But, i still prefer to farm using less attack per hour and more skilful farming attacks..... so less Game play....



Lazy farming is like below 200 farming or trophy hunting ( looking at a screen all the time... har... har.... No Life...)


Sorry to Burst your Bubble Lazy farmers!

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Originally Posted by denial

haha... i defo agree.. no need to search that much to find good loots :(


But "real farming" isn't farming mines and collectors sorry.... Yet again i cant blame anyone who farms this way if he/she get the loot that he/she wants... with the latest loot cap at Storages ....More and more People will start using the mines/collectors Lazy farming....






You lazy farming deal with .... i don't ...


I did my lazy run yesterday... Just to write a "HOW TO" farm millions per hours .... but i wont .... Clearly here we have the best farmers in here.... no one need me to explain them how to lazy farm....

-Pre cue 20 wbs
-Archers barbs constant all the barrack
-Minions in the dark barracks
-U can squeeze many attacks per Hour (6-10)
-Search abandoned towns with exposed mines n collectors.... ( Supercell made it even easier now ... No badge at all lol )
-... Repeat ... Repeat....
- Gratz! You now earned your No-Lifer Badge :)




And yeah you can Farm millions per hour this way.... ( i dropped from 1500 to 960 doing my lazy run yesterday har... har...)



But, i still prefer to farm using less attack per hour and more skilful farming attacks..... so less Game play....



Lazy farming is like below 200 farming or trophy hunting ( looking at a screen all the time... har... har.... No Life...)


Sorry to Burst your Bubble Lazy farmers!

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Hi denial, I farm the exact same way as you, but if I come across a 180+/180+ in all mines/collectors I'm still going too hit it. If there is cash left over, send in the rest of the troops, and take it all!

My army usually takes 20-25mins to train, and can make 600k-1.2m per hour, depending on raids.

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Originally Posted by Thecageyone

I'd love to know why some are gloating about all the loots they're still coming across, with only a few searches to find it. Because I'm hitting 'Next' like mad trying to find bases with anything over 20K+ I come across the [very] odd decent loot base, but maybe 1 in 10 attacks ... I end up settling for much less than what was normal pre-update ... When we say there's a lack of it, then there is. But, like everything on here, you'll get shot down for any kind of complaint by those who float on fluffy clouds where the sun must rise every morning ... :D

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It isn't gloating, it is presenting a balanced view. There is a lot of "everyone is getting this" or "most people are seeing that", and offering a different perspective encourages less of the generalisation. Of course there are some good loots to be had, and some rubbish skip totals to find them, but a bit of optimism never hurts, eh?

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haha... i defo agree.. no need to search that much to find good loots :(


But "real farming" isn't farming mines and collectors sorry.... Yet again i cant blame anyone who farms this way if he/she get the loot that he/she wants... with the latest loot cap at Storages ....More and more People will start using the mines/collectors Lazy farming....






You lazy farming deal with .... i don't ...


I did my lazy run yesterday... Just to write a "HOW TO" farm millions per hours .... but i wont .... Clearly here we have the best farmers in here.... no one need me to explain them how to lazy farm....

-Pre cue 20 wbs
-Archers barbs constant all the barrack
-Minions in the dark barracks
-U can squeeze many attacks per Hour (6-10)
-Search abandoned towns with exposed mines n collectors.... ( Supercell made it even easier now ... No badge at all lol )
-... Repeat ... Repeat....
- Gratz! You now earned your No-Lifer Badge :)




And yeah you can Farm millions per hour this way.... ( i dropped from 1500 to 960 doing my lazy run yesterday har... har...)



But, i still prefer to farm using less attack per hour and more skilful farming attacks..... so less Game play....



Lazy farming is like below 200 farming or trophy hunting ( looking at a screen all the time... har... har.... No Life...)


Sorry to Burst your Bubble Lazy farmers!

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Lazy farming? More like smart farming. One must be stupid to skip a 80k/80k village that can be raided empty with 30 goblins just to find a 120k/120k village that requires giants and wallbreakers to break through to the storages.

Cost effectiveness, do you evaluate it bro?

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Originally Posted by Shorelinez

Hi denial, I farm the exact same way as you, but if I come across a 180+/180+ in all mines/collectors I'm still going too hit it. If there is cash left over, send in the rest of the troops, and take it all!

My army usually takes 20-25mins to train, and can make 600k-1.2m per hour, depending on raids.

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No way... i wlll defo raid places like that... never said i wont... with the lowest amount of troops :)

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Lazy farming? More like smart farming. One must be stupid to skip a 80k/80k village that can be raided empty with 30 goblins just to find a 120k/120k village that requires giants and wallbreakers to break through to the storages.

Cost effectiveness, do you evaluate it bro?

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Smart? about what .... do u need skill to raid an undefended mine and collector ? If you need so Yeah ... Smart Farming for you :)

I never said i skip those places....

.... if i evaluate it? Time wise do you evaluate it bro?

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No way... i wlll defo raid places like that... never said i wont... with the lowest amount of troops :)



Smart? about what .... do u need skill to raid an undefended mine and collector ? If you need so Yeah ... Smart Farming for you :)

I never said i skip those places....

.... if i evaluate it? Time wise do you evaluate it bro?

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Smart about which base to hit and which base to skip.

You just make it sound like whoever raids collectors are lazy. Might wanna rephrase your statements.

As for the time spent to evaluate a village, 2 seconds for me, tops.


Also, stop bolding and underlining random words in your replies, it's annoying. Usually ppl use bold and underline on significant points, not random words.

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

Smart about which base to hit and which base to skip.

You just make it sound like whoever raids collectors are lazy. Might wanna rephrase your statements.

As for the time spent to evaluate a village, 2 seconds for me, tops.


Also, stop bolding and underlining random words in your replies, it's annoying. Usually ppl use bold and underline on significant points, not random words.

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Hehe ...sry ....Sand i wont change my way of writing for anyone.... Random for you Significant for me :)


Clearly, the word time wise was bolded to refer to lazy farm method as a whole farming experience... u missed the point there....

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Clearly, the word time wise was bolded to refer to lazy farm method as a whole farming experience

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I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

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Originally Posted by rondoblows

1. I can only hold 6 million.
2. I don't have 6 million gold because i put it into my walls.

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c h e e r s

Let's be civil, shall we?

To be honest it's a tough transition between TH 8 amd TH 9, the raids at TH 9 is more demanding than those many players are used to at TH 8. A TH 7 is a very soft target, even if you are a TH 7 yourself, and if you are TH 8 and have level 5 troops and know what you are doing it's very easy to continoulsy 3 start TH 7's. But once you upgrade you will still only have level 5 troops and 200 army spaces to start with, and that makes it hard in the beginning.

I'd recommend focusing all attention on your offensive power, it will make a huge difference. Lab, troop upgrades (especially tier one troops), and army camps is your first concern.

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Originally Posted by denial

haha... i defo agree.. no need to search that much to find good loots :(


But "real farming" isn't farming mines and collectors sorry.... Yet again i cant blame anyone who farms this way if he/she get the loot that he/she wants... with the latest loot cap at Storages ....More and more People will start using the mines/collectors Lazy farming....






You lazy farming deal with it .... i don't ...


I did my lazy run yesterday... Just to write a "HOW TO" farm millions per hours .... but i wont .... Clearly here we have the best farmers in here.... no one need me to explain them how to lazy farm....

-Pre cue 20 wbs
-Archers barbs constant all the barrack
-Minions in the dark barracks
-U can squeeze many attacks per Hour (6-10)
-Search abandoned towns with exposed mines n collectors.... ( Supercell made it even easier now ... No badge at all lol )
-... Repeat ... Repeat....
- Gratz! You now earned your No-Lifer Badge :)




And yeah you can Farm millions per hour this way.... ( i dropped from 1500 to 960 doing my lazy run yesterday har... har...)



But, i still prefer to farm using less attack per hour and more skilful farming attacks..... so less Game play....



Lazy farming is like below 200 farming or trophy hunting ( looking at a screen all the time... har... har.... No Life...)


Sorry to Burst your Bubble Lazy farmers!

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20 wbs?!?! That's 60,000 elixir and at least 10 min to make. I never have more than 8 in my army and 90% of the time use none. I don't have archers and barbs constantly in all barracks, I don't use minions, I don't search abandoned towns, and I don't only raid mines and collectors. I look at each base and determine what resources are available and how hard it would be to get them.

I'm not sure how you raid less per hour. When you see the bases that have 250k in gold and 300k in elixir, but then realize it's all in mines and collectors do you hit next? Or are you using your whole army even though it isn't needed? Or do you just get so excited when you see big numbers that you insta empty out your whole army without even trying to determine where the resources are?

_{I love how noobs cry about every update get good and enjoy the game enough said}

Interesting thread and it would be a real shame to have to close it but we MUST talk to each other with respect or it will descend into one of those flame threads we all hate, let's tone down the emotion.

Pretty please.

All of the talk about real farming vs lazy farming vs skillful farming is pretty...well, funny.

For most people who aren't pushing trophies (you're all farmers in my books and I love you all) Elixer really isn't a huge issue, so army composition isn't a huge issue. Blowing 50k elixer vs. 100k elixer is pretty much the same, you make it back.

In regards to hitting NEXT, if the math works out and folks can pay for their upgrades...who cares. I believe it was Ice-T who said, "don't hate the playa!"

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As to the OP, I think you hit a perfect storm of just switching THs which is always a tough time and lots of players on in the update, so lots of raiding and lower number of good bases to hit. It's a feeding frenzy right now but I've definitely seen some great streaks of bases. I don't think anything in the update broke things though, it just feels a little worse right now because of lots of activity.

Good luck.

Yeah daddy n ActionMonkey n Vilehelm i want to keep it civil... but some words like "noobs" and "mindlessly" doesn't fit to an educated conversation, thats why i replied to them... Our endeavour continues from this thread haha :
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/36766-Farming-for-black-walls/page11

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I don't know how that applies to me? I already farmed my level 8 walls. It took me a little over 2 weeks. I did it raiding at least 5 times an hour, often 7-8. I didn't target "just" mines, and I didn't gem my barracks. I trained a full army, and while looking for bases to use it on, also raided bases that had vunerable mines. I didn't drop below good farming range, I stayed between 1180 and 1250.

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20 wbs?!?!

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dont you know what pre cue is? and it doesn't mean using them all in one raid... that was referred to "how to Achieve the millions per hour" some Lazy farmers have been bragging about "lately" :P

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That's 60,000 elixir and at least 10 min to make. I never have more than 8 in my army and 90% of the time use none. I don't have archers and barbs constantly in all barracks, I don't use minions, I don't search abandoned towns, and I don't only raid mines and collectors. I look at each base and determine what resources are available and how hard it would be to get them.

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NIce nice :P

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I'm not sure how you raid less per hour.

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Did i tell you about how much i raid per hour? ... or was it even the point of the topic? i don't "mindlessly" HIT NEXT

Its comes down to: whoever comes first, will be served first.... ( "fifo")

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When you see the bases that have 250k in gold and 300k in elixir, but then realize it's all in mines and collectors do you hit next?

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lol no way i raid it! with the minimum possible troops, the difference is that i don't target ghost towns ...as Other "Millions per HOUR" Farmers do ... and they brag about like its a miracle way to farm.... lol ...

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Or are you using your whole army even though it isn't needed?

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lol.....really lol...

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Or do you just get so excited when you see big numbers that you insta empty out your whole army without even trying to determine where the resources are?

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Clearly your earlier Quote says it all :) ( ....7-8 attacks per hour....)

You have found your "way" to farm, it fits your lifestyle and i am ok with it. Just don't "attack" others that mindlessly hit next ... because they have life too :)

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Roflmao about that 6mil in 8 hours farming, it's a fact and it's not my fault most players are amateurs and can't farm as good as me.

Also, stop making threads like this. All it does is flame bait and make the trolls come out.

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Not amazes me really :/

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Yeah daddy n ActionMonkey n Vilehelm i want to keep it civil... but some words like "noobs" and "mindlessly" doesn't fit to an educated conversation, thats why i replied to them... Our endeavour continues from this thread haha :
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/36766-Farming-for-black-walls/page11

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Your first comment to me in that thread was:

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Originally Posted by denial

haha thats lazy farming .... :P


Good luck with that :)

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How does calling what I do "lazy" fit in an educated conversation?

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But "real farming" isn't farming mines and collectors sorry....


You lazy farming deal with it .... i don't ...

- Gratz! You now earned your No-Lifer Badge :)


Lazy farming is like below 200 farming or trophy hunting ( looking at a screen all the time... har... har.... No Life...)


Sorry to Burst your Bubble Lazy farmers!

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How does saying my farming isn't real, calling it "lazy" 3 times and saying I have no life fit in an educated conversation?

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Did i tell you about how much i raid per hour? ... or was it even the point of the topic? i don't "mindlessly" HIT NEXT

Its comes down to: whoever comes first, will be served first.... ( "fifo")

lol no way i raid it! with the minimum possible troops, the difference is that i don't target ghost towns ...as Other "Millions per HOUR" Farmers do ... and they brag about like its a miracle way to farm.... lol ...


lol.....really lol...

Clearly your earlier Quote says it all :) ( ....7-8 attacks per hour....)

You have found your "way" to farm, it fits your lifestyle and i am ok with it. Just don't "attack" others that mindlessly hit next ... because they have life too :)

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My way, as I have said repeatadly is to have a full army ready to use all on one base, but if while searching for that target I see a base with large amounts of resources in poorly protected mines and collectors, to raid that with a portion of my army. How is that different from what you do? As I said doing that, I raided at least 5 times an hour often 7-8. I am curious how you are doing less attacks an hour, but you won't take time of from insulting me and the way I play to tell me.... And having a set minimum to raid a base and hitting next until a base has that number IS mindless. I'm not sure how that is an insult? I mindlessly hit next on bases that have less than 10,000 resources.

Have you considered the fact that you suck at the game and are being a whiny crybaby because you can no longer attack and ravage opponents who are significantly weaker than you? Bummer.

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Your first comment to me in that thread was:


How does calling what I do "lazy" fit in an educated conversation?



How does saying my farming isn't real, calling it "lazy" 3 times and saying I have no life fit in an educated conversation?

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Lazy isn't something that i came up with or i invented it.... it has been going for a while... and it describes the method used... not the person...lol...

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My way, as I have said repeatadly is to have a full army ready to use all on one base, but if while searching for that target I see a base with large amounts of resources in poorly protected mines and collectors, to raid that with a portion of my army. How is that different from what you do? As I said doing that, I raided at least 5 times an hour often 7-8. I am curious how you are doing less attacks an hour, but you won't take time of from insulting me and the way I play to tell me.... And having a set minimum to raid a base and hitting next until a base has that number IS mindless. I'm not sure how that is an insult? I mindlessly hit next on bases that have less than 10,000 resources.

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Dude i am ok with whatever way you farm :) ... No need to continue an argument where both parties don't agree...:cool:

Happy "farming"!

A whole weekend you only get 1 mil gold. Ouch. I could get 1 mil in a few hours even after the update...

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Lazy isn't something that i came up with or i invented it.... it has been going for a while... and it describes the method used... not the person...lol...

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What part of what I do fits into the "lazy" farming method? You said that I did it based solely on me raiding at least 5 times an hour often 7-8. I don't do any of the examples you give of "lazy farming" except attack bases with resources in poorly protected mines and collectors if I happen to see them. What is the alternative to that if it's not skip them or use your entire army on them? What are you doing different than me? And I never thought you were referring to me as lazy, but I still don't find it "lol" when you refer to my method as such.

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Originally Posted by denial

Dude i am ok with whatever way you farm :) ... No need to continue an argument where both parties don't agree...:cool:

Happy "farming"!

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Referring to me as "dude" fits in an educated conversation? This isn't an argument because you aren't giving any alternative way to farm. You just keep continually labeling what I do as something, saying you don't agree with that something while insulting me personally, and never providing an alternative.

7 pages and no mention yet...guess someone's gotta do it....


To the OP: Don't forget to move your collectors and storages away from defenses.

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7 pages and no mention yet...guess someone's gotta do it....


To the OP: Don't forget to move your collectors and storages away from defenses.

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Ty, way to maintain our standards. ;)

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What part of what I do fits into the "lazy" farming method? You said that I did it based solely on me raiding at least 5 times an hour often 7-8. I don't do any of the examples you give of "lazy farming" except attack bases with resources in poorly protected mines and collectors if I happen to see them. What is the alternative to that if it's not skip them or use your entire army on them? What are you doing different than me? And I never thought you were referring to me as lazy, but I still don't find it "lol" when you refer to my method as such.




Referring to me as "dude" fits in an educated conversation? This isn't an argument because you aren't giving any alternative way to farm. You just keep continually labeling what I do as something, saying you don't agree with that something while insulting me personally, and never providing an alternative.

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Lazy farming is farming with mass Tier 1 troops and going only for collectors/mines. If you don't do that you are not lazy farming, so don't worry about it. It's called lazy farming because you're pretty much ignoring the entire base.

There's really nothing wrong with, it's just a term that people applied to it because it takes "less skill".

solitude explain how you get both storages up? that takes a few days, you are obviously a gemmer in denial.. ive seen your base and you go from next to nothing in storages to almost max in a few hours sometimes..

No sympathy for TH9, even at TH8 loot is bad 99% of the time.

Daddy warned you guys, so thread closed.