Drills or barch to 6?

So I'm a new TH9 and I use barch. So should I first get my drills or barch to 6?

Few things to keep in mind:

-No DE down here and it could be stolen
-I farm in 1000-1100 range
-Not a lot of elixir down here
-I have 2 lvl 3 drills and lvl 5 barch right now
-5 builders

No, I'm not changing my range, unless you can find a range with better loot, my DE doesn't get zapped and I don't get smashed pretty much every defense.

The reason I'm down so low is because I don't have much more time to play anymore as in my TH8 days, so I can't afford to lose 350K of each and 2K DE practically every defense.

drills

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Drills....

Both :cool:

Seriously do you even play the game to have to ask this? You use BARCH all the time in your attacks and have to ask whether to upgrade it? Of course you upgrade it. The drills can wait.

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Originally Posted by uziu

Seriously do you even play the game to have to ask this? You use BARCH all the time in your attacks and have to ask whether to upgrade it? Of course you upgrade it. The drills can wait.

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Well I was asking because it doesn't seem much of a difference. I need DE, and my only source of income is drills, and I'm only battling noobs with barch, they're so easy, so I wasn't sure. Plus, lix is hard for me to get at this range. Normally it would obviously be barch, but in my circumstances, the answers could be different. I'm leaning towards drills, but I wanna see what everyone has to say.

Upgrade BARCH first, Mines, Drills, and Collectors are for other peoples benefit, if you want DE get in to the right range for it.

Do some maths, you can raid a ton of DE and lose a fraction of what you've stolen when you're attacked, same goes for gold and the pink stuff.

Or you can prey on smaller TH's with smaller TH's and keep a little bit more of your precious loot, and as you say pink stuff is hard to come by.

Some day you have to man up and get in the right league, may as well do it now ;)

Offence always comes first.

as it goes, im farming in C2 without getting zapped or turned over every day, thanks to th snipers... I've been here for a few weeks and the most ive lost is 50% of what was available on 2 different occasions... so like 300k of g/e in total.

only there is loot and DE to be had up here.

actually, no, scrap that - I dont wanna share lol.

Drills all day!

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Originally Posted by smoggybowman

Offence always comes first.

as it goes, im farming in C2 without getting zapped or turned over every day, thanks to th snipers... I've been here for a few weeks and the most ive lost is 50% of what was available on 2 different occasions... so like 300k of g/e in total.

only there is loot and DE to be had up here.

actually, no, scrap that - I dont wanna share lol.

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I already knew that, DE flows like mountain streams up here :D

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Originally Posted by Springerrob

I already knew that, DE flows like mountain streams up here :D

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ssshhhh lol

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Originally Posted by Pranav

Well I was asking because it doesn't seem much of a difference. I need DE, and my only source of income is drills, and I'm only battling noobs with barch, they're so easy, so I wasn't sure. Plus, lix is hard for me to get at this range. Normally it would obviously be barch, but in my circumstances, the answers could be different. I'm leaning towards drills, but I wanna see what everyone has to say.

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Let me see if i have this correct. You're a TH9, 1100 trophy level, BARCHing, having to ask what you asked...and youre calling the others noobs?

Here's your Bieber Award. You are now an official "Bieber"....congratulations

barch
drill production rate is pathetic

Both. But the drills first.

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Originally Posted by Springerrob

Upgrade BARCH first, Mines, Drills, and Collectors are for other peoples benefit, if you want DE get in to the right range for it.

Do some maths, you can raid a ton of DE and lose a fraction of what you've stolen when you're attacked, same goes for gold and the pink stuff.

Or you can prey on smaller TH's with smaller TH's and keep a little bit more of your precious loot, and as you say pink stuff is hard to come by.

Some day you have to man up and get in the right league, may as well do it now ;)

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Barch easy.

barch it is , according to me go for barch

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Originally Posted by uziu

Seriously do you even play the game to have to ask this? You use BARCH all the time in your attacks and have to ask whether to upgrade it? Of course you upgrade it. The drills can wait.

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I don't know if that's a definite. Personally, I find it harder to get DE than Elixir, so my drills are maxed. Upgrading the Archer to Lvl 6, besides the 6 Mil Elixir cost, means the price for each Archer rises by 50% (Lvl 5: 200; Lvl 6: 300), yet the damage it can do only rises by 10% (going from 20 to just 22). Hitpoints also only increase by 10%. That's a lousy ROI. Better and cheaper to just build a few more Archers for less, unless your camps are maxed out.

I would say Barch first.

Why?

Barch will help you get Gold, Elixir and Dark. drills only help in Dark production.

also, Typically the Dark stuff adds up whilst hunting for other two resources. (in the right range of course, and if you don't use a Dark-Troops heavy army)

In the end I believe you can raid for far more Dark per day (and per hour) with developed troops rather than developed drills, as even maxed drills have a per hour cap. (even boosted)

2 Max Drills gets you like 3200-4800 ish a day.. depending on your collect times. Which is a big help, but that amount can be made raiding, in as little as 3 raids in the right range. ya dig?

it no doubt helps to max the drills, but overall I think Barch will get you more bang for your (Elixir) buck, and serve your overall raiding needs better.

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Originally Posted by z080236

barch
drill production rate is pathetic

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Say what? 2 lvl 6 drils will give you 4.8k DE a day.
On the OP question - get lvl 6 barch and go to gold 1-2 at least.

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Originally Posted by Scourge

I don't know if that's a definite. Personally, I find it harder to get DE than Elixir, so my drills are maxed. Upgrading the Archer to Lvl 6, besides the 6 Mil Elixir cost, means the price for each Archer rises by 50% (Lvl 5: 200; Lvl 6: 300), yet the damage it can do only rises by 10% (going from 20 to just 22). Hitpoints also only increase by 10%. That's a lousy ROI. Better and cheaper to just build a few more Archers for less, unless your camps are maxed out.

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the difference is in mortar lvl that can kill those archers.

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Originally Posted by HFlashman

Let me see if i have this correct. You're a TH9, 1100 trophy level, BARCHing, having to ask what you asked...and youre calling the others noobs?

Here's your Bieber Award. You are now an official "Bieber"....congratulations

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I'm pretty much a TH8...and di you read my circumstances? Elixir is hard to get down here, and there's like no DE at all. Plus, I'm so low because I don't have tons of time to raid anymore and I don't want to get smashed practically every defense and make no progress. And you know what I mean... premmie TH7 and TH8s everywhere...

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Originally Posted by Springerrob

Upgrade BARCH first, Mines, Drills, and Collectors are for other peoples benefit, if you want DE get in to the right range for it.

Do some maths, you can raid a ton of DE and lose a fraction of what you've stolen when you're attacked, same goes for gold and the pink stuff.

Or you can prey on smaller TH's with smaller TH's and keep a little bit more of your precious loot, and as you say pink stuff is hard to come by.

Some day you have to man up and get in the right league, may as well do it now ;)

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Originally Posted by AFRO

I would say Barch first.

Why?

Barch will help you get Gold, Elixir and Dark. drills only help in Dark production.

also, Typically the Dark stuff adds up whilst hunting for other two resources. (in the right range of course, and if you don't use a Dark-Troops heavy army)

In the end I believe you can raid for far more Dark per day (and per hour) with developed troops rather than developed drills, as even maxed drills have a per hour cap. (even boosted)

2 Max Drills gets you like 3200-4800 ish a day.. depending on your collect times. Which is a big help, but that amount can be made raiding, in as little as 3 raids in the right range. ya dig?

it no doubt helps to max the drills, but overall I think Barch will get you more bang for your (Elixir) buck, and serve your overall raiding needs better.

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Originally Posted by antonka

Say what? 2 lvl 6 drils will give you 4.8k DE a day.
On the OP question - get lvl 6 barch and go to gold 1-2 at least.

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I should've mentioned this in the OP, but I know this is not the range to be. Back in my TH8 days, with tons of time to raid, I farmed up in the 1900-2100 trophy range, tons of loot everywhere, yet my defenses were pretty bad. I was able to completely max my TH8, walls, decorations, DE upgrades, everything before moving onto TH9 I KNOW this is a terrible range to farm, but I don't want to raid a bit just to have like tons of it lost on defense. I can't get much, because I don't have a lot of time to play, either.

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Originally Posted by antonka

the difference is in mortar lvl that can kill those archers.

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I completely agree, that's also another reason why I'm wondering.
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I can't afford to lose 2K DE and 350K of each per defense, that's insane.
I'm gonna update the OP now.

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Originally Posted by Pranav

I'm pretty much a TH8...and di you read my circumstances? Elixir is hard to get down here, and there's like no DE at all. Plus, I'm so low because I don't have tons of time to raid anymore and I don't want to get smashed practically every defense and make no progress. And you know what I mean... premmie TH7 and TH8s everywhere...





I should've mentioned this in the OP, but I know this is not the range to be. Back in my TH8 days, with tons of time to raid, I farmed up in the 1900-2100 trophy range, tons of loot everywhere, yet my defenses were pretty bad. I was able to completely max my TH8, walls, decorations, DE upgrades, everything before moving onto TH9 I KNOW this is a terrible range to farm, but I don't want to raid a bit just to have like tons of it lost on defense. I can't get much, because I don't have a lot of time to play, either.



I completely agree, that's also another reason why I'm wondering.
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I can't afford to lose 2K DE and 350K of each per defense, that's insane.
I'm gonna update the OP now.

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You have it exactly right: that's a terrible range to farm for you. Get level 6 barch and move up to Gold 1 or 2 minimum. Even at 2-3 raids a day, you'll easily outpace what others will take, as long as you manage your shields well. You'll have your drills in no time and then you'll be on to bigger and better things.

Oh, and I'm assuming your TH is in a corner far from traps and defenses. If not, move it there asap.

Barch
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Everyone who saying barch didn't read.

He doesn't raid so barch is less effective then drills in HIS case.

Its like telling someone to upgrade their golems to 4 ASAP when they plan to never war.

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Originally Posted by Hulkified

Everyone who saying barch didn't read.

He doesn't raid so barch is less effective then drills in HIS case.

Its like telling someone to upgrade their golems to 4 ASAP when they plan to never war.

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Well said hulk. ^^^(OP, listen to the smart guy)

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Originally Posted by FLGatorsEliteJu

You have it exactly right: that's a terrible range to farm for you. Get level 6 barch and move up to Gold 1 or 2 minimum. Even at 2-3 raids a day, you'll easily outpace what others will take, as long as you manage your shields well. You'll have your drills in no time and then you'll be on to bigger and better things.

Oh, and I'm assuming your TH is in a corner far from traps and defenses. If not, move it there asap.

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yup, my TH is there surrounded by 2 layers of decorations

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Originally Posted by Hulkified

Everyone who saying barch didn't read.

He doesn't raid so barch is less effective then drills in HIS case.

Its like telling someone to upgrade their golems to 4 ASAP when they plan to never war.

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I do raid, but not a lot

Barch! This will just make getting your drills up faster. If you have a stronger offense, then you can get more loot, if you can get more loot, you can upgrade your drills faster!:) eZ

Do it!

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Originally Posted by Hulkified

Everyone who saying barch didn't read.

He doesn't raid so barch is less effective then drills in HIS case.

Its like telling someone to upgrade their golems to 4 ASAP when they plan to never war.

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He didn't say he doesn't raid, he said he doesn't raid much, who didn't read the post properly?

A few BARCH raids in the correct range can easily outstrip losing resources when attacked.