Easy way to find bot users

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September 15th, 2014
Badut

Easy way to find bot users

Simple way for supercell to find and ban people who use bots to raid.

Add a button in the defense log to "Report a bot". If a real player views a defense replay and it's obviously a bot, they can press it to report it to supercell. To stop people going overboard, you can have a 24 hour cooldown on the button.

Now you might think supercell doesn't have the manpower to view a million replays every day, but they don't need to.

By nature, a bot user will be attacking many people in a day. Supercell only needs look at the players who are reported multiple times by separate individuals in 24 hour span. Supercell can take a look at those replays, make a judgement and ban if necessary.

Other metrics can help to determine if a player is truly a bot user such as time spent online in a day.

If they did this, then using bots would become unprofitable very quickly.

Btw: It is in supercell's interest to stamp out bot usage. Not only does it have a large negative effect on the people who play and enjoy this game, it directly impacts supercell's profit. If people can simply bot their resources, they will spend less on gems.
September 15th, 2014
Ninja352

There is already a "In game report" feature. This covers everything, so just use that.

Also, I heard SC is already working on how to fix the bit problem.
September 15th, 2014
Badut

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Originally Posted by Ninja352

There is already a "In game report" feature. This covers everything, so just use that.

Also, I heard SC is already working on how to fix the bit problem.

Ah ok.
I know you can report posts in global chat, but I just had a look and I couldn't find where the in-game report is.
September 15th, 2014
BlackJewl

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Originally Posted by Badut

Ah ok.
I know you can report posts in global chat, but I just had a look and I couldn't find where the in-game report is.

+1

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September 15th, 2014
Ninja352

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Originally Posted by Badut

Ah ok.
I know you can report posts in global chat, but I just had a look and I couldn't find where the in-game report is.

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Originally Posted by BlackJewl

+1

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Settings -> Help and Support -> Report an Issue -> Other Problem
September 15th, 2014
kdrob

What's a bot
September 15th, 2014
bad4u

I wanna know too

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Originally Posted by kdrob

What's a bot

Also, I attack multiple people per day all the time. Some time I have 10 attacks in the last 6 hours according to my attack log. Some of my troop order of battle take only 19 minutes to build without the need for gems so then I can attack 10 times in 3.5 hours or less. When I do this often use the same order battle over and over again so I may look like a computer because I am so repetitive.

The reason I want to know about these bots is because it would take a fair amount of artificial intelligence for a computer to make good attacks and I don't think it is possible without great effort. More effort than what this game deserves.
September 15th, 2014
Ninja352

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Originally Posted by kdrob

What's a bot

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Originally Posted by bad4u

Also, I attack multiple people per day all the time. Some time I have 10 attacks in the last 6 hours according to my attack log. Some of my troop order of battle take only 19 minutes to build without the need for gems so then I can attack 10 times in 3.5 hours or less. When I do this often use the same order battle over and over again so I may look like a computer because I am so repetitive.

The reason I want to know about these bots is because it would take a fair amount of artificial intelligence for a computer to make good attacks and I don't think it is possible without great effort. More effort than what this game deserves.

The bots referred to in this and many other threads are from a game h@ck that deploys troops at exact and equally spaced positions on the base. bad4u, you have nothing to worry about. Many players, including myself, use the same attack strategies. It is not suspicious to those who know what the bots look like.
September 15th, 2014
Badut

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Originally Posted by Ninja352

Settings -> Help and Support -> Report an Issue -> Other Problem

Sure, what this does (at least on android) is setup an email template for you to email supercell support.

My suggestion, if setup correctly, eliminates the need for supercell employees to read large numbers of emails to deduce who might be using bots. All supercell would have to do is check their database and watch the replays for the players who have the most reports against them.
September 15th, 2014
KingOAQ

bad idea

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Originally Posted by Badut

Add a button in the defense log to "Report a bot". If a real player views a defense replay and it's obviously a bot, they can press it to report it to supercell. To stop people going overboard, you can have a 24 hour cooldown on the button.

how can you tell that a raid was "obviously" a bot? it's just opinion... and opens the door for people to just report people who demolish your base & take all your loot!!! everyone one will be like, that was "obviously" a bot!!
September 15th, 2014
Badut

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Originally Posted by KingOAQ

how can you tell that a raid was "obviously" a bot? it's just opinion... and opens the door for people to just report people who demolish your base & take all your loot!!! everyone one will be like, that was "obviously" a bot!!

Have a look on these forums for a video somebody posted of a bot attacking their base. The troops are deployed in a straight line along the edge of the base (where no buildings can be placed). They are also deployed much faster than a human could. There is no intelligence to it. It just deploys row after row of troops.
To me that's obviously a bot, but I guess it wouldn't be obvious to everybody.

I agree that there will be false reports, which is why supercell should only take notice if the same person is reported many times. If an account has a significant number of reports against it, then a supercell employee can check a few replays to confirm if it really is a bot before banning them.

I also suggest a significant cooldown time on the report button so sore losers don't go crazy reporting everybody they lose to. If supercell want to get sophisticated, they could have an internal rating so that people who give too many false reports are silently ignored in the future.
September 15th, 2014
KingOAQ

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Originally Posted by Badut

Have a look on these forums for a video somebody posted of a bot attacking their base. The troops are deployed in a straight line along the edge of the base (where no buildings can be placed). They are also deployed much faster than a human could. There is no intelligence to it. It just deploys row after row of troops.
To me that's obviously a bot, but I guess it wouldn't be obvious to everybody.

during a raid,
1) place your device on a flat non-slip surface
2) place your right hand index finger on top right corner of the map and left hand index finger on the bottom left corner of the map
3) as soon as troops spawning, slide right hand down and left hand up simultaneously
4) when you reach the edge, start sliding right hand towards the left bottom corner and left hand towards the right top corner
5) when you reach those edges, trace your way back
6) repeat

wow your a bot! it's very difficult to affirm or prove that a particular attack is most definitely a bot, thats all im saying.

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Originally Posted by Badut

I agree that there will be false reports, which is why supercell should only take notice if the same person is reported many times. If an account has a significant number of reports against it, then a supercell employee can check a few replays to confirm if it really is a bot before banning them.

I also suggest a significant cooldown time on the report button so sore losers don't go crazy reporting everybody they lose to. If supercell want to get sophisticated, they could have an internal rating so that people who give too many false reports are silently ignored in the future.

dont get me wrong, i do understand the problem here. however, i doubt that SC will do anything about it, irrespective of how good of a solution we come up with. if someone is motivated enough to ♥♥♥♥♥ like that, i would think that it's very likely that they are motivated enough to spend $$$ to buy gems. so trying to find people who ♥♥♥♥♥ like this is probably not something that SC is going to "invest" time an money into. people like you and me that play a free game for free add to their total stats, but nothing to their bottom line.