Lava hound v/s seeking air mine & how to defend against lava hound

I am hoping the lava hound goes undetected by seeking air mines just like minions or else its a no contest, the hound would hardly be a tank unless it has 10k hp which is highly impossible.

1 Seeking air mine does 1500+ damage

Can anybody comment on this and confirm.

Otherwise everyone will just place seeking air mines next to air defense.

Another thing...Btw this is a good defense strategy to tackle lava hounds if they do become the norm after release like golems.....just place air bombs and seeking air mines (if they deal damage to lava hounds) next to air defenses.

I don't know what I'm going to do yet. I'm thinking bout leaving my base the same for now, until I see if people actually use them or not. Plus, if I set my defenses to defend against the air gowipe, then people just might hit me up with a ground attack.

True.....there is still time for the release and people still have to figure out the strategies

But any news on the seeking air mine

Maybe. But smart players will drop a single balloon before the hound. To trigger that seeking bomb. The key is to place the bomb behind the AD. So it is harder to trigger

Maybe if the air def are in the outer layer....but if there r other defenses before air def then the balloon wont be able to trigger it....

Also the 30 housing space of hounds means u cant use a lot of other troops to trigger stuff unless they r minions

For golems the one thing that does damage other than defenses are the giant bombs (spring traps dont affect golems untill they split)

But it is harder to place a giant bomb near any particular defenses..coz golems could come from any side

But lava hounds have only 1 point of direction and that is towards air def....its easier to air bomb them

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Originally Posted by Nitecrawller

Maybe if the air def are in the outer layer....but if there r other defenses before air def then the balloon wont be able to trigger it....

Also the 30 housing space of hounds means u cant use a lot of other troops to trigger stuff unless they r minions

For golems the one thing that does damage other than defenses are the giant bombs (spring traps dont affect golems untill they split)

But it is harder to place a giant bomb near any particular defenses..coz golems could come from any side

But lava hounds have only 1 point of direction and that is towards air def....its easier to air bomb them

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I am skeptical as of how useful the hound will be. I think Th9 players will get hit the hardest by them, as air is already strong at Th9.

But vs Th10, I think the 5 different seeking mines, and sheer size of bases will limit their effectiveness. But it may make 2 staring easier.

In the video the lava hound got hit by a seeking air mine and took very lil damage and also if it took over 10 hits from a lvl 7 air defence im sure it will have about 5k HP. thats enouph to get hit by 2 seeking air mine and survive.

But the Lava hound was also taking more damage from the archer tower than the air defense, which means that the air defense are nerfed against lava hounds so lava hounds don't have a ridiculous amount of health.

Now that the update is out...It looks like seeking air mines do damage hounds

And air def arent nerfed against hounds

5700 hp and 10 dps at lvl1 means the hound will not be able to destroy any form of air def on its own.

If you place all the 4 lvl1 air mines next to an air defense....and if the hound goes to thay air def first it will be destroyed

Even for L1 hound, it needs 3x air mines.
Realistically, 1-2x air mines plus under fire for AD, AT, etc. will down the hound.

Anyway, I think this is a better tank than the current King.

It sounds like the hounds will be the new golems of a more effective balloonion strategy. Time will tell....

I'm really worried as a TH9 about this update. This is going to make my life way harder to defend again air raids. I know people are saying that air mines and archer towers will make short work of them, but I think we are forgetting that Hounds go straight to the air defense, meaning that they set off any air traps on the way there.

Considering this, and that any towers will be working to smash the golem, minions, at least I think, are extremely viable. Without air bombs, and with wizard towers possible distracted, minions will run amok, completely uncontested.

Army Comp(Bad) Idea:
2/3/4 Hounds
50/65/80 Minions

At least three Rage Spells, but I don't know what for the last spell.
Obviously clan castle troops are a consideration, so you would probably need to use a hound's housing space for troops to kill CC.

The idea is to start the raids with the hounds, letting them gather as many towers as possible. You would want to deploy them in a similar fashion to balloonian, across one side of the base, as opposed to all around. Hopefully, they will split at 2 per air defense and tank fire independently, giving the minions time to work their way through the base. The rages would be placed solely on the minions, as the hounds do absolutely nothing in terms of DPS. Assuming you are going against a TH9 with -1 than max defenses, the total Air DPS for point defenses, if x-bows are pointed up, including wizard towers is 1858, if all defenses are firing on the exact same troop. This is beyond unlikely, and you will probably be facing about 1/4 of that on each hound, giving you about 8-12 seconds of uninterrupted minion havoc

That basis seems like a shot in the dark, but in reality, I don't think that the firepower of a base will overwhelm the 22,800 hp that the Lvl. 1 hounds have. Not to mention, the base's DPS goes down as the troops work through the base. Almost 1000 of that DPS comes from air defenses, meaning that the minions will work through the 1st third of the base and eventually take out the first air defenses for the hounds, who will then swing over to the other two.

Even though this is a totally DE raid, and the spotlight is on the hounds, the success really depends on how the minions move through a base, as the hounds will basically sit on top of an air defense for an eternity, and distract towers.

This strat is probably unrealistic anyway, but overall, Hounds are a fantastic addition to any air raid, substituting for a tankier balloonian, (LaLoonian) and even helping out dragon raids tremendously

Thanks,
PikachutheFreak

Im sure if the lava hound is way to bad or way too good it will be always balanced after testing..

but also about deffending,

just like double GBombs against hogs now you will also have that problem with air, so double seeking air mines will be a must.

I like this it will change a bit the designing, how to place ur air traps and how to place ur AD and archer towers.

Don't bother yourself,it is too weak. I upgrated lava hound to level 3;However, unfortunately it was not able to destroy even one air deffence level 7!! It is like a jok! But in reality it is weaker than drag or any other troops!! I am so disappointed with my upgrade and gems which I spend on that!!!

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Originally Posted by eaman1157

Don't bother yourself,it is too weak. I upgrated lava hound to level 3;However, unfortunately it was not able to destroy even one air deffence level 7!! It is like a jok! But in reality it is weaker than drag or any other troops!! I am so disappointed with my upgrade and gems which I spend on that!!!

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I agree entirely with you. What a waste of hype for nothing. Have you noticed new you tubes of pairing the hounds with stronger troop to make them more effective. The stronger troops are doing all the work.

If anyone has not upgrading to the hound don't bother wasting time/DE/and gem boost.