Sneak peeks!!!:d

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Originally Posted by alexh2010

This "update" will destroy farming as a higher level player, this making upward progress impossible. I spend about 1-2m of elix a day on attacks, and my elix currently goes up consistently. Now my elix will burn out fast, unless i drop down below 1200 to farm people who haven't hit level 6 walls. This degrades my game play and theirs.

Please supercell i will go buy gems tomorrow if you reconsider this.

Also it is not internally consistent within the game universe, IMO.

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You can still buy the walls with gold.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Naz

Are you high? I hope you dont make decisions!

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yeh, are you high zach? You and all your reasoning and logic, this is SC forums, stuff like that has no place here, you should know better.

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Originally Posted by Naz

Lets be honest....good farmer just means, attacks more lol i have a bil GG and farming isnt really an art lol yes some are better then others, but not based on GG.
I would say a good farmer like i class myself is just someone that has to much time on their hands...
At least with elixir for walls now i only really have to farm/boost half as much as i can now use all loot now...
SC are saving me gems....and i only have to play half the time for the same out come...well done at shooting your own foot SC lol.

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I use a farming composition that requires me to spend a little more elixir than someone using BAM or Barch. But it means I am able to attack a lot more bases rather than trying to get those collector raids. I'm not really gonna benefit from the elixir walls cause I'm probably still gonna pay most of them with gold.

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Originally Posted by Zuma022

I'm confused, how will this affect the economy? Yes people won't be sitting on 8mil lix, but people will also not just target the gold storages to get billions of gold to do their walls. Doesn't that mean it'll balance out more?
Also the people with lvl10 or 11 walls, the picture painted is that there millions of elixir available but no gold. How did you manage to farm your walls then? We know it takes an ungodly amount of gold to do that.

I'm not saying it's the most brilliant update ever and I get why the people with 8b gg are upset, but I don't think it'll spell the end of the world. And I still think the player with a th10 and pink walls will not put millions of elixir into the walls either, so I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make.

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This kinda sums up my thoughts. Im a little sad that walls will be easier to get, but ill gett over it. It will be impossible for a new th10 to upgrade his camps in a timely manner though.

To answer your question: With more people upgrading walls thats more overall loot going to the trash bin.
IMO overall lix will go down a lot. Overall gold will go up a little which equals a moderate decrease in overall loot

But, ill wait till al sneak peeks. Considering that this is the first sneak peek this will be a hige update and i wouldnt be shocked if higher lvl collectors or something came out. I will accept you about anything as long as sneak peek number 5 is no more chinese fluffy bunnys

I wonder what the next sneak peek will be.. Hopefully something that will fix the wall thing..

why can this be for lv10+? walls are absolutely no challenge until you reach walls that cost multi millions worth of gold


maybe ill ask iTunes for a time refund...

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

To be fair, this logic also goes in the other direction. Different groups have different interests, and that's perfectly fine. :)


Yes, but not everyone is in that situation. It may be 2x as fast for some, but maybe only 1.1-1.3x as fast for others. Actually I would be surprised if it even goes down for some people, especially those who have lots of elixir upgrades to do. Elixir will become more scarce, and I could see some (not many) struggles with it. My point is I don't think the average rate will approach 2x.

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Only time will tell how it plays out. My hope is that more people will max quickly which will force SuperCell to focus on updates that enhance high level play.

I will add that people actually need to relax a bit on the doomsday scenarios of not being able to raid elixir now. We have no idea how this is going to play out. Let the update go for a while and then see how the loot is.

Gonna be great man!!!

Its hard to find a base with decent amount of gold loot, soon it will be hard to find a base with decent amount of elixir too.

Use your brain guys.... The demand for elixir will increase but the pathetic supply stays the same... Come on...

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Originally Posted by Naz

Are you high? I hope you dont make decisions!

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Elixir production isn't magically rising to accomadate all these people upgrading their walls. It will become more like gold (although not that extreme I'm sure) in that some people won't always be able to find it. I made quite clear that I'm only talking about extreme scenarios, and that the AVERAGE person will come nowhere close to that. Please read to the end of the post and you'll find I say this explicitly.


Also, please don't insult people who disagree with you. It's not nice and violates forum rules.

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Originally Posted by cottoninthewoods

why can this be for lv10+? walls are absolutely no challenge until you reach walls that cost multi millions of gold


maybe ill ask iTunes for a time refund...

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Lvl 9+ even...lvl 6+ is just silly

I like the idea of upgrading wallsnwith elixer,seeing that im a th 8 and ive heard that u max elixer out easily.........


Butcits gonna ruin the loot.......
People whocattack storages for loot will nownswitch to abandoned bases,which will cause lesser availibilty of the abandoned bases........
Just my opinion...dont get me wrong...i like it

Soon it will be difficult to farm elixir too... Why are there people supporting this update? 😑

To me the people that have played longer (higher lvl wall people) know what is about to happen and the new people (walls under skulls) are mistaken.


I know very well why my gold is always empty. I sink it into walls. So why would i not do the same to lix.

Im a mid th9 with most all of my th9 troops maxed. I get attacked by new th10 all the time even when they only stand to gain 35 k gold but 350k lix. Now they will spend more on the next button because my base will have 35/35k each.


So if you think loot sucks now t10. Wait a week and see how many look really sucks treads are made. Good job super "sale"
All you needed to do was increase the win bonus for each league and everybody would be happy. Then they could upgrade their walls or what ever

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

I wouldn't call it a "winner". People just took the punch to the gut and kept walking.

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more like a sucker punch, guys like you took it especially hard

Level 12 walls.
"Proximity mine walls"

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Originally Posted by Naz

Lvl 9+ even...lvl 6+ is just silly

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yea even lv9 works, but lv6...

You guys really think you can do walls 2x faster after update? Think again. There isn't so many players out there with filled elixir storages.Maybe like few % of all. They will dumb elixir on walls and so do others when they have plenty. So where you get that 2x rate? I'd say, you can do walls maybe 20% faster than before. There isn't infinite elixir...

Just post the loot improvement sneak peak. I'm so curious to see what will "save us" from Sahara.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

Elixir production isn't magically rising to accomadate all these people upgrading their walls. It will become more like gold (although not that extreme I'm sure) in that some people won't always be able to find it. I made quite clear that I'm only talking about extreme scenarios, and that the AVERAGE person will come nowhere close to that. Please read to the end of the post and you'll find I say this explicitly.


Also, please don't insult people who disagree with you. It's not nice and violates forum rules.

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Your insulted by a complete stranger in a forum for a game, on the Internet? Hmmm cant imagine what would happen if i actually tried to insult you.
I completely understand your logic, but in my opinion its just silly.....NO offence meant!
I say a lot of silly and stupid things, if ppl call me out. Thats their opinion and i will just ignore them if i cant be bothered lol Try lightening up ;)

I finish my Lego walls last week and now I'm working on Lava. I welcome the change for upgrading walls, it will speed things up. Those who farmed and max their walls are pretty much screwed on the time they spent, the same scenario as heroes. It is what it is. Yes, the value of walls went down, but to get max walls you still have to farm them with optional resource to do it with when the update goes live.

Why is there no gold in matchmaking? Because we sink it on walls. Now elixir will be the same. Super sale has the answer though. "You can always gem your resources!"

Not sure what the next sneak peek is going to be and maybe it will restore balance to the cosmos but right now I'm seeing a massive disincentive for aggressive attacking with farming comps, most cupping armies and....gasp....even engaging in clan wars. Armies and spells now effectively cost gold? Who in their right mind is going to want to be in a 24/7 war clan or try and blow four storages off TH9's and 10's in multiplayer if you can't squander elixir without feeling like a dolt?

One of the best changes that SC ever made was to switch spells from gold to elixir as it meant we could just let it fly and raid without consulting the accountants.

A lot of people think loot is the joy of the game but its really secondary to letting loose on someone with an expensive army.

Spell-less BARCH is about the dullest gameplay experience available in the app store.

The only thing i can think of is that maybe players will be able to chose to use dark elixir for spells. That would seem to restore some sanity and (at least in some instances) incentivize blowing people up properly again.

Why are you not?

It's gonna be tough because when farming gold for upgrades I try find bases with decent elixir to cover my troop costs. Now a base with 250k told and 10k elixir has gotta be skipped. I find farming gold pretty easy compared to elixir for some reason.

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Originally Posted by Kaagelus

You guys really think you can do walls 2x faster after update? Think again. There isn't so many players out there with filled elixir storages.Maybe like few % of all. They will dumb elixir on walls and so do others when they have plenty. So where you get that 2x rate? I'd say, you can do walls maybe 20% faster than before. There isn't infinite elixir...

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Since I BARCH I can get a full elixir storage in a day. Can't wait to finish skull walls. Not a big achievement anymore sadly :/

*Sigh* This will make the economy WORSE, think about it, everyone will be dumping excess elixir on walls meaning there will be no elixir to raid.
Not a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Kaagelus

You guys really think you can do walls 2x faster after update? Think again. There isn't so many players out there with filled elixir storages.Maybe like few % of all. They will dumb elixir on walls and so do others when they have plenty. So where you get that 2x rate? I'd say, you can do walls maybe 20% faster than before. There isn't infinite elixir...

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True, that is why, before this upgrade happens, I am going to loot all the TH9s of their elixir to upgrade my last pekka. After that, I can dump all of my gold and elixir into walls! Muahaha!!

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Originally Posted by Kaagelus

You guys really think you can do walls 2x faster after update? Think again. There isn't so many players out there with filled elixir storages.Maybe like few % of all. They will dumb elixir on walls and so do others when they have plenty. So where you get that 2x rate? I'd say, you can do walls maybe 20% faster than before. There isn't infinite elixir...

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i haven't had elixir upgrades in months, the only reason I'm not th10 is because of my walls. i just have giant useless balls of bubblegum with nothing to spend it on aside from pushing. there is so much more outstanding elixir than there is gold in our nice little economy. if they wanted it to be easier to upgrade walls they should have just injected gold into the system when needed

Just a thought, but dont you think now that walls cost gold and elixir the clash economy is going to be even worse because people are spending gold on walls and elixir on walls

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Originally Posted by watts101

Why is there no gold in matchmaking? Because we sink it on walls. Now elixir will be the same. Super sale has the answer though. "You can always gem your resources!"

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Your title contradicts your statement.

How do you know they don't have something else planned to help stifle up the economy? Stop lookin so deep into things that haven't even happened yet.

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Originally Posted by lanesteele240

To me the people that have played longer (higher lvl wall people) know what is about to happen and the new people (walls under skulls) are mistaken.


I know very well why my gold is always empty. I sink it into walls. So why would i not do the same to lix.

Im a mid th9 with most all of my th9 troops maxed. I get attacked by new th10 all the time even when they only stand to gain 35 k gold but 350k lix. Now they will spend more on the next button because my base will have 35/35k each.


So if you think loot sucks now t10. Wait a week and see how many look really sucks treads are made. Good job super "sale"
All you needed to do was increase the win bonus for each league and everybody would be happy. Then they could upgrade their walls or what ever

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Well said , i support you :)

Well since you know the future, what's gonna be the next set of lotto numbers please?

I'm still going to upgrade walls with gold and be happy if I get all skull walls. I rather be happy for earning those walls the hard way than the easy way.

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Originally Posted by Naz

Your insulted by a complete stranger in a forum for a game, on the Internet? Hmmm cant imagine what would happen if i actually tried to insult you.
I completely understand your logic, but in my opinion its just silly.....NO offence meant!
I say a lot of silly and stupid things, if ppl call me out. Thats their opinion and i will just ignore them if i cant be bothered lol Try lightening up ;)

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Nah, I'm not offended by it, otherwise you would have been infracted. However, I'm not so lenient if things like that are said to other people. Was more of a fair warning. :)

Anyway, I've actually been having a blast on the forums today. There's been tons of actual discussion for a change, and it's been awhile since I've been able to get involved in any debates like this. Pardon my hyper-serious posting nature, it blacks out all the happiness underneath. This actually reminds me of the older days on the forum, and I love it. :D

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Originally Posted by vivian265

It's gonna be tough because when farming gold for upgrades I try find bases with decent elixir to cover my troop costs. Now a base with 250k told and 10k elixir has gotta be skipped. I find farming gold pretty easy compared to elixir for some reason.

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I find farming gold easier too because with excess elixir i make good troops to take on harder bases...

Lol you don't even know what you're talking about

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Originally Posted by thenextman

*Sigh* This will make the economy WORSE, think about it, everyone will be dumping excess elixir on walls meaning there will be no elixir to raid.
Not a good thing.

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My loot bonus pays for my barch lol its a win for me...all profit and straight to walls lol

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Originally Posted by watts101

Lol you don't even know what you're talking about

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This coming from someone posting a thread about an update that hasn't even been released yet. Mhm

This is a money trap :) no gold no Elixir buy gems full your tanks :) :) :)

This update and the hero update basically showed me that Supercell doesn't care about the people who maxed their heroes and walls.... All the time spent was a waste...

instead of it being a reward it feels more like a big joke... Just maxed my gold grab yesterday, guess this was my reward today? Very dissapointing

Now people will have little lix which means little lix for mass drag raids

First it was heros... Now its walls... 😏 supercell u are the best!! U totally dont care about players like us

Great
so instead of spending 3/4 million of gold on a wall I can do the same with elixir.
now all it means is the end of seeing people with full storages
i dump all my gold into walls before logging off. I used to let the elixir build to raid.
im now maxxed except walls... Almost all level 10 slowly moving to level 11..... Now it will be slower still...

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

Nah, I'm not offended by it, otherwise you would have been infracted. However, I'm not so lenient if things like that are said to other people. Was more of a fair warning. :)

Anyway, I've actually been having a blast on the forums today. There's been tons of actual discussion for a change, and it's been awhile since I've been able to get involved in any debates like this. Pardon my hyper-serious posting nature, it blacks out all the happiness underneath. This actually reminds me of the older days on the forum, and I love it. :D

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Im happy to make it more exciting...sometimes i call myself an idiot dont worry lol

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Originally Posted by Justin2413

This update and the hero update basically showed me that Supercell doesn't care about the people who maxed their heroes and walls.... All the time spent was a waste...

instead of it being a reward it feels more like a big joke... Just maxed my gold grab yesterday, guess this was my reward today? Very dissapointing

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I know I'm a TH 8 and this update and the last update benefits me but I feel sorry for people like you. I worry about the future of CoC.. I wonder what the next update will be.. Max your base for 1 gold?

Or they buffed air troops including dragon since ground raids will be harder with stronger walls

It does nerf clan wars though since people won't want to donate anymore

Or they might give dragons a direct nerf update too while they're at it to balance the disadvantage for ground troops

Yippeeeeeee!!!!! I need to finish my elixir upgrades quick then I can drain all of my them on my walls. You never disappoint me Supercell!

This makes me a very... very happy shrig

Greta job on keeping everyone's spirits high mate! :D I am glad I will not have to see dragons in my village ever again. :rolleyes:

Players think wall upgrades will go quick because they have maxed out elix storages at the minute, because elix is plentiful to obtain during raids. SC is rebalancing the economy placing more demand on elix than before, meaning raids with elix been plentiful will be long gone.

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Originally Posted by GoWiWi

Now people will have little lix which means little lix for mass drag raids

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I see what you mean and agree that it's gonna be tough with expensive elixir costs however I don't think nerfed is the word for it.

Dear StupidCell,

I really don't get it. Why the fug did you devalue the walls by allowing elixir to be used? Is this going to be the trend? Nerfing everything? First you BLATANTLY nerfed the heroes by claiming they were better, THEY're NOT. And now you go on to nerf the walls by allowing elixir to be used. Do you want those players that paid for their walls to go writing to Apple asking for a refund again? Then again, what happens to the many legit players like myself who farmed their sorry ♥♥♥ off for upgrading these walls? Do we get compensation?

I seriously don't get it. Financial wise your company should be doing better after selling almost half of your shares to some Japanese company. Why do all these dumb updates then? Most games offer updates that actually IMPROVES the game, not make it worst.

I may not be making much sense as i'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as hell. And you glorified SC supporters can say how much the game rocks. But for all i know, this game is in it's decline and StupidCell needs to do something to improve it.

NOT simply NERFING everything. If something is Over Powered then you balance the game, not just randomly come up with some dumb updates. How about actually listening to the community and hear what their main concerns are? Your walls are not expensive, your loot system is lousy. That's all. Fix things that players really want! Release some stuff for the lower Townhalls levels or something.

Or do you only bother about what your GEMMERS really want? Seems like that's what you guys are implying.

Now i will continue to dump my gold and elixir into my walls before i log off.

as for my dark elixir it will be protected by my high level walls, unlurable heros and cc, and infernos and x bows 😎

Enjoy the poor loot guys!

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Originally Posted by Ali7861

I know I'm a TH 8 and this update and the last update benefits me but I feel sorry for people like you. I worry about the future of CoC.. I wonder what the next update will be.. Max your base for 1 gold?

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All anger aside, im worried about the future of COC... all of the hardcore farmers, pushers are getting more annoyed at each update....soon all the old time greats will be gone...its a sad day for me

ELIXIR IN WALL? YESHHHHHHHHHHHHH. #finish lavas

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Originally Posted by Jappchillin

How do you know they don't have something else planned to help stifle up the economy? Stop lookin so deep into things that haven't even happened yet.

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I completely agree. I think we should just eagerly await the next few sneak peaks!

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Originally Posted by Justin2413

All anger aside, im worried about the future of COC... all of the hardcore farmers, pushers are getting more annoyed at each update....soon all the old time greats will be gone...its a sad day for me

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Hmm, maybe SC should put a few others things in the update. Stay tuned guys. :cool:

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Originally Posted by vivian265

I see what you mean and agree that it's gonna be tough with expensive elixir costs however I don't think nerfed is the word for it.

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Don't you mean really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really tough

Uhm...if you don't know how to manage resources in a game than how do you survive in the real world? You don't think people are gonna keep at least 500k-1m elixer on hand for wars/donations? Common sense will prevail.

Now i will continue to dump my gold and elixir into my walls before i log off.

as for my dark elixir it will be protected by my high level walls, unlurable heros and cc, and infernos and x bows 😎

Enjoy the poor loot guys!

The reason for the update is business. This is honestly not any good for the game as elixir will become scarce.


Edit: I know it is here to improve the use of elixir but you can not improve it if it is not there.

I'd like to see more loot from Clan Wars!

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

Hmm, maybe SC should put a few others things in the update. Stay tuned guys. :cool:

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I really hope so Zach... We need something :confused:

I have farmed all Lava walls, and 40% Zap walls.

And I think I'm OK with this.

I understand the frustration... There is no recognition for walls done when it was "harder" (gold only) I do innately feel mad that my accomplishments are now slightly less substantial.

But that's life. If you only did things to get recognition you'd be unfulfilled most of the time. I'm happy that I did my walls when I did. MAXED at th9 baby! I'm happy that I've got a 2 bil gold grab, and someday soon will have all LVL 11 walls.

I am also happy for the people who will soon get an opportunity to max walls at th8-th9 easier than before! It is so fulfilling to upgrade EVERYTHING and not have a single upgrade button anywhere. I wish for everyone to reach this profound accomplishment, whether its easier now or not.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

Hmm, maybe SC should put a few others things in the update. Stay tuned guys. :cool:

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Last hope is a huge loot improvement. Don't wanna see dry bases in the near future. I can guarantee both my storages will be thrown on lavas so no loot from me guys...

I just finished my skulls. This couldnt have come at a better time now that the lego journey is about to begin.

Why would it be easier for u to farm elixir when your opponents will just dump their elixir into their walls too?

It will become harder to farm walls when you run out of elixir to cook troops and you are not recouping enough elixir when you raid...

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Originally Posted by Beaker09

I have farmed all Lava walls, and 40% Zap walls.

And I think I'm OK with this.

I understand the frustration... There is no recognition for walls done when it was "harder" (gold only) I do innately feel mad that my accomplishments are now slightly less substantial.

But that's life. If you only did things to get recognition you'd be unfulfilled most of the time. I'm happy that I did my walls when I did. MAXED at th9 baby! I'm happy that I've got a 2 bil gold grab, and someday soon will have all LVL 11 walls.

I am also happy for the people who will soon get an opportunity to max walls at th8-th9 easier than before! It is so fulfilling to upgrade EVERYTHING and not have a single upgrade button anywhere. I wish for everyone to reach this profound accomplishment, whether its easier now or not.

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Very, very well said. Now I can rest happy knowing that I have not lost ALL hope in the clash community!

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Originally Posted by Zuma022

I'm confused, how will this affect the economy? Yes people won't be sitting on 8mil lix, but people will also not just target the gold storages to get billions of gold to do their walls. Doesn't that mean it'll balance out more?
Also the people with lvl10 or 11 walls, the picture painted is that there millions of elixir available but no gold. How did you manage to farm your walls then? We know it takes an ungodly amount of gold to do that.

I'm not saying it's the most brilliant update ever and I get why the people with 8b gg are upset, but I don't think it'll spell the end of the world. And I still think the player with a th10 and pink walls will not put millions of elixir into the walls either, so I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make.

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Ok i consider myself a pretty casual player, however i have been playing for almost 2 yrs so I am almost maxed th10. I have 2 spells left to upgrade so 1 month to no elixir upgrades and maybe 2-3 months to be completely maxed on defences. After I reach that point give me one reason why I would ever log off with any gold or elixir in my storages? I can tell you right now i am not stupid so the answer is I wont be logging off with any loot whatsoever. If I can reach that point as a casual player how many others are there already? This update may not affect the lower level players too badly but I am afraid Masters is going to become an even worse wasteland than it has been the last few weeks.

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Originally Posted by Beaker09

I have farmed all Lava walls, and 40% Zap walls.

And I think I'm OK with this.

I understand the frustration... There is no recognition for walls done when it was "harder" (gold only) I do innately feel mad that my accomplishments are now slightly less substantial.

But that's life. If you only did things to get recognition you'd be unfulfilled most of the time. I'm happy that I did my walls when I did. MAXED at th9 baby! I'm happy that I've got a 2 bil gold grab, and someday soon will have all LVL 11 walls.

I am also happy for the people who will soon get an opportunity to max walls at th8-th9 easier than before! It is so fulfilling to upgrade EVERYTHING and not have a single upgrade button anywhere. I wish for everyone to reach this profound accomplishment, whether its easier now or not.

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we are in the same boat...almost exactly..i also maxed my th9 100% including heroes and walls... My zaps are a little over half done...

I do not plan on stopping to play clash, I'm just very dissapointed... Maybe I need to have a more optimistic outlook, but, I'm finding it hard at the moment

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Originally Posted by Jappchillin

Uhm...if you don't know how to manage resources in a game than how do you survive in the real world? You don't think people are gonna keep at least 500k-1m elixer on hand for wars/donations? Common sense will prevail.

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There's a key difference between managing resources in game and in real life which is that going bankrupt in a game won't kill you so people can spend resources in a way they find most fun. Besides if you really want to manage your resources, you'd hide behind your clanmates and not donate or avoid walls since people generally lose more elixir than they gain in wars, unless they go for cheap armies

Besides, I said that people won't want to donate anymore, not that they aren't able to donate anymore. Seems like your common sense needs some work

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Originally Posted by Stefm211

Ok i consider myself a pretty casual player, however i have been playing for almost 2 yrs so I am almost maxed th10. I have 2 spells left to upgrade so 1 month to no elixir upgrades and maybe 2-3 months to be completely maxed on defences. After I reach that point give me one reason why I would ever log off with any gold or elixir in my storages? I can tell you right now i am not stupid so the answer is I wont be logging off with any loot whatsoever. If I can reach that point as a casual player how many others are there already? This update may not affect the lower level players too badly but I am afraid Masters is going to become an even worse wasteland than it has been the last few weeks.

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Oh yea i forgot majority the Players are not th 10 thats why it isn't affecting them yet 😏

No wonder. There should be a topic for th 10 only 😎

I understand that some hardcore wall farmers are upset, and I am in no position to say there is a reason they shouldn't be.

But loot changes ARE practically confirmed. SC knows that they need to change the loot system after a huge change like this. It will make wall farming completely different.

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Originally Posted by Jappchillin

Uhm...if you don't know how to manage resources in a game than how do you survive in the real world? You don't think people are gonna keep at least 500k-1m elixer on hand for wars/donations? Common sense will prevail.

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Omg, this.

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Originally Posted by Ali7861

I'm still going to upgrade walls with gold and be happy if I get all skull walls. I rather be happy for earning those walls the hard way than the easy way.

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In the end it still involves farming, walls are not going to magically upgrade themselves. Be satisfied you will have upgraded walls, even though it's not the way you wanted it to be.

Unless SC address the economy with more levels on collectors etc.

Expect troop donations to suffer
Expect clan wars to suffer aka lesser troop quality/cheaper armies/more leeching
Expect longer time next'ing for decent loot
Expect tougher bases to crack with upgraded walls
Expect Elixir storages to be deeper in bases requiring stronger/costly armies to get at

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Originally Posted by Beaker09

I have farmed all Lava walls, and 40% Zap walls.

And I think I'm OK with this.

I understand the frustration... There is no recognition for walls done when it was "harder" (gold only) I do innately feel mad that my accomplishments are now slightly less substantial.

But that's life. If you only did things to get recognition you'd be unfulfilled most of the time. I'm happy that I did my walls when I did. MAXED at th9 baby! I'm happy that I've got a 2 bil gold grab, and someday soon will have all LVL 11 walls.

I am also happy for the people who will soon get an opportunity to max walls at th8-th9 easier than before! It is so fulfilling to upgrade EVERYTHING and not have a single upgrade button anywhere. I wish for everyone to reach this profound accomplishment, whether its easier now or not.

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+1 to this. Great post. :)

Seems like so many people are eager to dump their elixir on the walls, but little did they know they will have a hard time farming for elixir afterwards

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Seems like so many people are eager to dump their elixir on the walls, but little did they know they will have a hard time farming for elixir afterwards

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That is the thing people are having a hard time noticing.

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Originally Posted by crackshot

elix doesn't magically rain from the sky, has to come from somewhere either collectors/raiding or players gem'ing it

without elix you can't make armies to raid with, so you'll be waiting on your own collectors to make up for it or buying elix with gem's which most can't do

SC is shifting the burden on gold on to elix

before this update you could convert elix to gold via armies, now SC offer direct 1 for 1 conversion with walls

how many raids have you seen? where elix is plentiful, but barely any gold

now imagine raiding where both gold/elix are constantly ♥♥♥♥, how you going finance those armies?

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What I'm trying to say if not everyone steals every penny if gold we won't see those raids with 300k lix and 10k gold. Which is a base id never attack. I don't need more lix, but hopefully we'll see a base with 150k each or thereabouts. Gold and lix upgrades still cost millions, so people have to save it up and not put every cent/drop in walls

Does supercell only cater to new/lazy players instead of those who work hard at this game? I've never played a game where the devs knock you down a peg with each update. I dont see a point in putting my effort into this anymore.

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Why would you hate it... Not even done with lego walls

Whoa these are awesome sneak peaks! Cant wait to see the rest

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Seems like so many people are eager to dump their elixir on the walls, but little did they know they will have a hard time farming for elixir afterwards

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Well, there are probably more changes to the loot system in a positive way. Update after update, people think that the first or second sneak peek is the end of the world.

Oh and you do realize that you can still use gold to upgrade walls right? Not just elixir.

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Sure this is bad for those who have been working on their walls, I only have 50ish lv 10 walls so it doesn't affect me as hard, but I still liked the grind of getting the walls so the harder the better for me to a certain degree of course. For those not liking the update do realize you are a small minority and since alot of people feel entitled to high level walls they would get it eventually. This update is definitely already has the approval of 80% or more of the clash player base, Supercell definitely did their job here. The major concern and rightfully so is elixir scarcity. This is only sneak peak one so their MIGHT be a loot system overhaul as well, but right now the worry about farming elixir is pretty apt.

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Call me in a week when the Great Depression hits. I hope im wrong. I hope there is another great revelation coming that will fix this. But 9 months of super sale updates have all proven to be lacking in the common sense department.

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lol my quote is in your sig

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Unless SC address the economy with more levels on collectors etc.

Expect troop donations to suffer
Expect clan wars to suffer aka lesser troop quality/cheaper armies/more leeching
Expect longer time next'ing for decent loot
Expect tougher bases to crack with upgraded walls
Expect Elixir storages to be deeper in bases requiring stronger/costly armies to get at

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This^^

Keep a spare builder as usual and dump excess elixir into your walls now.

Excellent concept to aide the loot issues.

It is hard enough to find decent storage raids as it is now. I can't wait until this goes in effect.

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Oh and you do realize that you can still use gold to upgrade walls right? Not just elixir.

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Oh and you do realize more people would rather use elixir than gold since elixir is usually abundant at the mid or late stage of most th levels right? Whereas gold is needed no matter what stage of town hall you're at. Be it early , mid or late.

I just got on fb and coc posted this
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I think ths is a good idea
anyone else?

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Why would you hate it... Not even done with lego walls

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If you read the first quote in my sig you would understand. I as well as many other people worked hard for my walls. It makes people regret moving up to th10 from 9 because now it will be so easy to max walls. Also, this is going to affect the economy a lot like many are already saying because people will dump their elixir into walls. Th10s with max defenses have no need for the lix other than some for armies so there bye bye to all the lix that top players have.

Lol, you guys. SC always does this to us. By now you should see the pattern that there is no point in rushing to get the latest toys. I'm a decent (defencive building wise) TH10 by now, with only 136 Skull walls the rest Crystal. As always, being behind the big game, means I get a nice discount. Good thing I maxed out my Elixir upgrades before going into the Gold stuff. Hahha.

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Seems like so many people are eager to dump their elixir on the walls, but little did they know they will have a hard time farming for elixir afterwards

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Barch is the answer...

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This^^

Keep a spare builder as usual and dump excess elixir into your walls now.

Excellent concept to aide the loot issues.

It is hard enough to find decent storage raids as it is now. I can't wait until this goes in effect.

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Its even more worth it to keep a spare builder now because you can dump elixir too!

Hohoho.

Gee, why don't you, instead of posting this in Off-Topic, just read the sticky in General with over 50 pages of replies?:rolleyes:

I have wanted to upgrade multiple walls at once for a long time so nice to see it implemented. I think everybody will enjoy the visible troop count in live replays, but I wish SC would also allow people to see the time remaining in a live replay.

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I have wanted to upgrade multiple walls at once for a long time so nice to see it implemented. I think everybody will enjoy the visible troop count in live replays, but I wish SC would also allow people to see the time remaining in a live replay.

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Elephant? What elephant?