Sneak peeks!!!:d

What? What is your definition of low level? And i never seen "Low Levels" ask for walls to be easier to get.

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Only low levels asked for walls to be easier to get. Loyal customers were fine with how walls were. Classic example of a business model that targets new customers and ignores the old.

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Only low levels asked for walls to be easier to get. Loyal customers were fine with how walls were. Classic example of a business model that targets new customers and ignores the old.

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Low level players are also loyal, if by low level you mean th8 and below. They have been loyal since th1 up to th8. Time is only one aspect of loyalty.

All businesses must target new customers. It is how a business continues to grow and survive.

Goodbye lv 6 archers

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What? What is your definition of low level? And i never seen "Low Levels" ask for walls to be easier to get.

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Anyone below th10. He even made a thread about it.

I knew somebody would make a thread like this.. Look at all those threads. A small amount of people wanted walls to be reduced, a big amount said NO.

Makes sense. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Phoenix64

Anyone below th10. He even made a thread about it.

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How i feel about complainers...

Deal with it.

It is still the same amount of resource, just different color. Still have to put in just as much work imo.

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Originally Posted by owinning

How i feel about complainers...
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GIFs are not allowed lol

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Originally Posted by Polaris

So pre loot nerf gold was exceedingly easy to find and steal......does that mean we can put an asterisk on the badge of those who did most of their wall farming then? These periodic changes cut both ways.

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No, put something above the achievements button, like a milestone button! It could have badges or something for people who joined during a certain date, logged on during a certain date, etc.

You know, like stickers in Kindergarten!:D

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How i feel about complainers...
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Inb4 banned for posting gif.

Anyway, I meant new players, not low level players. Even though they are pretty much synonyms.

It really waters down the feeling of accomplishment for those of us that have spent a lot of countless hours maxing out our walls before upgrading to the next town hall. I'm only town hall 8, I can't imagine how you town hall 9 & 10 guys feel about this. Looks like high level walls will now be standard issue on most bases now. Thanks supercell.

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Originally Posted by thumper4

It is still the same amount of resource, just different color. Still have to put in just as much work imo.

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Before raid:
2.9 mil gold in storage
8 mil elixer in storage

Loot:
200k gold/200k elixer

After raid:
3.1 mil gold in storage
8 mil elixer in storage

You can upgrade: 1 wall to level 10.

With this new system the 200k elixer you stole is also relevant for your walls, which makes it a lot easier to upgrade them

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Originally Posted by Phoenix64

No, put something above the achievements button, like a milestone button! It could have badges or something for people who joined during a certain date, logged on during a certain date, etc.

You know, like stickers in Kindergarten!:D

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Lol i guess. Maybe have your gold grab shown by your name?

BTW, dont take this the wrong way, but why do you guys want to be recognized so badly for your walls? Is personal satisfaction not enough?

I would like to know the reasoning behind making this start at Lvl6 walls and not a later level.

Just curious to hear, still have mixed feelings about this new addition (I'm farming Legos).

can't say i like this change... I spent two+ months farming walls at TH9, and now some idiot can do what I did in half the time. Also, now that I finally have some use for elixir as a new TH10, everybody will spending all of it on walls. aggravating

:mad: Sucks to be a Townhall 10 now.Once again Supercell fails on updates. You think they will adjust the elixer back to how it was previously? Take a guess! Months wasted on farming walls with max elixer at th9.Now at th10 you cant max elixer without draining all ur dark. Terrible.Super idea guys too bad its not 2012.You think its hard finding a good gold storage raid its gonna be pathetic now with being allowed to spend elixer on walls. WOO HOO 80K RAIDS.Just another ploy by supercell to drain ur bank account.Theives!!!!! Oh and btw hero update was terrible as well.

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:mad: Sucks to be a Townhall 10 now.Once again Supercell fails on updates. You think they will adjust the elixer back to how it was previously? Take a guess! Months wasted on farming walls with max elixer at th9.Now at th10 you cant max elixer without draining all ur dark. Terrible.Super idea guys too bad its not 2012.You think its hard finding a good gold storage raid its gonna be pathetic now with being allowed to spend elixer on walls. WOO HOO 80K RAIDS.Just another ploy by supercell to drain ur bank account.Theives!!!!! Oh and btw hero update was terrible as well.

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They didnt take away your walls....

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Only low levels asked for walls to be easier to get. Loyal customers were fine with how walls were. Classic example of a business model that targets new customers and ignores the old.

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I have to disagree. If you look at past updates almost every time they add a new level to pre-existing troops/buildings, which only long-time players would be able to get, because they know that long-time/high level players are the same players who buy boat loads of gems. So an update that appeals to new players may only be beneficiary in the long run, if that player happens to continue to play the game and if that player happens to buy gems, whereas long-time players (that gem) are almost an instant monetary win.

I actually felt that newer players were less tended to than old-time players because of the fact that almost every building or troop update is only accessible to high-level players. The last two defensives they've come out with are infernos and xbows, both of which you unlock at th9 and th10.

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Originally Posted by CaesarII

Thing is, the only people who really gem are high level players (who this would not affect) and rushed town halls (who don't have the sense to max their defenses, let alone walls, so it won't affect them either).

Just because they added this isn't going to make me go out and gem the rest of my walls, or anyone else for that matter.

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well then AFAIK they have stopped bringing out updates for normal farmers.... see the hog nerf (death of a big part of farmers) the promotion of valks / new pekka lvl (boost boost boost troops) & ofcourse I doubt anyone in their real senses would really gem walls !!! if they say they do... no doubt they might be supercell employees with free gem flows... trying to create peer pressure... well since SC realizes no ones really gonna gem walls & nerfing the cost would create a much bigger uproar... thus this is the next best thing they came up with i guess.. which kills two birds with one stone... walls nerfed Plus further squeeze of a resources thus making more players spend those 11 gems per pump to just make an army...

they believe (SC) this game has become popular enuf to survive without the hard working non gemming farmers...

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That is why Supercell is smart to ignore the complainers. Why? Because they know that every update will have complainers. And after a month or two, those complainers will end up adapting and stop complaining. I applaud them for that.

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The last update was a prime example of this--people just dealt with it.

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GIFs are not allowed lol

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Didn't help that you quoted the gif...

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Originally Posted by lijero13ss

Lol i guess. Maybe have your gold grab shown by your name?

BTW, dont take this the wrong way, but why do you guys want to be recognized so badly for your walls? Is personal satisfaction not enough?

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Well no, not exactly, no. There was 1 thing in the game that was really really hard to get, and that was maxed walls. Although it's still hard, it's been made a lot easier. That's what's bothering me at least, don't know about the rest. It was just a fun thing to be working on, something that might never be achieved.

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Originally Posted by ashtonishingash

:mad: Sucks to be a Townhall 10 now.Once again Supercell fails on updates. You think they will adjust the elixer back to how it was previously? Take a guess! Months wasted on farming walls with max elixer at th9.Now at th10 you cant max elixer without draining all ur dark. Terrible.Super idea guys too bad its not 2012.You think its hard finding a good gold storage raid its gonna be pathetic now with being allowed to spend elixer on walls. WOO HOO 80K RAIDS.Just another ploy by supercell to drain ur bank account.Theives!!!!! Oh and btw hero update was terrible as well.

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Im a town hall 10... Im happy... I like pretty much all of their updates. The only one i didnt like was when they made the loot update and made it terrible.

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

I have to disagree. If you look at past updates almost every time they add a new level to pre-existing troops/buildings, which only long-time players would be able to get, because they know that long-time/high level players are the same players who buy boat loads of gems. So an update that appeals to new players may only be beneficiary in the long run, if that player happens to continue to play the game and if that player happens to buy gems, whereas long-time players (that gem) are almost an instant monetary win.

I actually felt that newer players were less tended to than old-time players because of the fact that almost every building or troop update is only accessible to high-level players. The last two defensives they've come out with are infernos and xbows, both of which you unlock at th9 and th10.

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Low players complain about hogs raiding them all the time: hog nerf

Inferno tower to hard to attack on multi: multi burns slower

Heroes are too hard to defend against: hero nerf

edit: also, I assume that old players spend less as they are just boosting. New players on the other hand may buy resources to speed their progress up, maybe buy builders huts etc.

I'm not sure if this has crossed a lot of minds, but I know it hasn't been mentioned in the thread as I've read all 1200+ posts.

Doesn't the prospect of a new level TH and more wall levels inevitably being released make it so that those of you who have farmed walls can then farm for the new level walls as soon as they are released? This then leading to you having the new version of maxed walls while the rest of us who either are casual players or in some cases (IE me) started playing the game well into it's life still are trying to get lvl 10 and 11 walls?

I think you are forgetting that this game will grow as the years go on (theoretically). Because you have put the work in before hand, you will have the first crack at new walls. So please just stop complaining I find it ridiculous that you pout about it. Perhaps instead of farming for 9 hours a day you should do something with your life, like get a job or find a girl that is interested in you (impossible I know).

Not one of you can sit here and tell me that you didn't, in all the hours you spent, think that hmm I wonder if one day this will be something I consider a waste of time.

Move on with your life, there are much worse things that could happen to you.

This might be the final straw for me and coc. I envisage there being a lot less elixir available to raid. Which makes war hard to do, which is the best feature of this game.

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Originally Posted by lijero13ss

They didnt take away your walls....

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Nope they didn't but they robbed your playing time instead!!

To start off, I am usually just a spectator on these forums. I generally just like to see what everybody is talking about. Sometimes I agree and disagree. There are lots of loot threads on here, however I have to admit that I've been getting frustrated as well. I've farmed from 1200-1800 trophies as a TH8 and it's just been disgusting.
But the thing I wanted to address is just how ridiculous some peoples complaints are. People are grilling SC for letting us use elixir for walls? Some people talk about how they spent so much time building walls right? I'm only 20 walls away from being done with skulls. So based on some of ya'lls logic, I should be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because I've spent tons of gems on barracks taking hours and hours to get these done right? Well that is not correct. I'm thrilled because now I have the opportunity to be able to go for lego's which seems excellent. Otherwise it would have been maybe a little much for somebody who works 80 hours a week.
My synopsis is this. Unless you have farmed level 11 walls and are maxed, which you haven't because unless you have over 2 billion GG it's pretty much not possible, then just be grateful you now have the ability to get the next level more easily.
Like I said, I don't even grill loot complainers because, well it just flat sucks and yeah supercell I would love that to be fixed. But some of these people have to complain about EVERYTHING?!

P.S. Thanks for that awesome idea SC.

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I'm not sure if this has crossed a lot of minds, but I know it hasn't been mentioned in the thread as I've read all 1200+ posts.

Doesn't the prospect of a new level TH and more wall levels inevitably being released make it so that those of you who have farmed walls can then farm for the new level walls as soon as they are released? This then leading to you having the new version of maxed walls while the rest of us who either are casual players or in some cases (IE me) started playing the game well into it's life still are trying to get lvl 10 and 11 walls?

I think you are forgetting that this game will grow as the years go on (theoretically). Because you have put the work in before hand, you will have the first crack at new walls. So please just stop complaining I find it ridiculous that you pout about it. Perhaps instead of farming for 9 hours a day you should do something with your life, like get a job or find a girl that is interested in you (impossible I know).

Not one of you can sit here and tell me that you didn't, in all the hours you spent, think that hmm I wonder if one day this will be something I consider a waste of time.

Move on with your life, there are much worse things that could happen to you.

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The point is that the exclusivity of high level walls is going to be lower.. walls are seen as a trophy, proof you are hardcore. People (including me) spent months grinding this game just for that sense that you were part of the elite. With this change it allows players to enter the upper class much easier.

Imagine you got into a top college, with a 2200 on your SAT. The year after you applied and were accepted, the college lowered their requirements to only a 1800 on the SAT. All of a sudden you don't feel as accomplished, and the overall quality of the people around you has gone down. That's what this feels like.

The second part of your argument is invalid and petty, you have no right to tell others how they should live :^)

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I'm not sure if this has crossed a lot of minds, but I know it hasn't been mentioned in the thread as I've read all 1200+ posts.

Doesn't the prospect of a new level TH and more wall levels inevitably being released make it so that those of you who have farmed walls can then farm for the new level walls as soon as they are released? This then leading to you having the new version of maxed walls while the rest of us who either are casual players or in some cases (IE me) started playing the game well into it's life still are trying to get lvl 10 and 11 walls?

I think you are forgetting that this game will grow as the years go on (theoretically). Because you have put the work in before hand, you will have the first crack at new walls. So please just stop complaining I find it ridiculous that you pout about it. Perhaps instead of farming for 9 hours a day you should do something with your life, like get a job or find a girl that is interested in you (impossible I know).

Not one of you can sit here and tell me that you didn't, in all the hours you spent, think that hmm I wonder if one day this will be something I consider a waste of time.

Move on with your life, there are much worse things that could happen to you.

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Your comment started out nice and insightful, but when you started about people not having a life I had to jump in.
Let's start.

You do have a point, people who have higher level walls have a head start when new walls are released or just have a head start on the already high level walls. But that is not the point. There is a goal in this game to farm those walls by hard work and dedication and a LOT of time. That's what's bothering us, it will only take roughly half the time it took for others to achieve what we have achieved.

On the other part I'd like to tell you that I have a girlfriend, I worked full time (50 hours a week), saw my friends a couple of times a week, visited my family and now I'm going to university. So I guess your 'well thought' comment wasn't as accurate as you'd think.

Quit posting these ridiculous comments and learn to accept others peoples thoughts.

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The point is that the exclusivity of high level walls is going to be lower.. walls are seen as a trophy, proof you are hardcore. People (including me) spent months grinding this game just for that sense that you were part of the elite. With this change it allows players to enter the upper class much easier.

Imagine you got into a top college, with a 2200 on your SAT. The year after you applied and were accepted, the college lowered their requirements to only a 1800 on the SAT. All of a sudden you don't feel as accomplished, and the overall quality of the people around you has gone down. That's what this feels like.

The second part of your argument is invalid and petty, you have no right to tell others how they should live :^)

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This ^ Agree 100%

So far, judging by the sneak peeks, this is going to be the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Update ever!!

Elix for walls? You have got to be kidding me? Are we catering just for noobs now or what?

This is the laziest pandering to the whiners I have seen so far. Well done sc, * slow clap*
Just keep pissing of your hardcore old timers...nice strategy there. So what's next then? A re-skin while you are at it nerfing walls? Pfffft !!

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to the elix walls!

If you don't have anything to give us then just don't do an update. This messing around with existing stuff is just infuriating and patronising to the community! Stop doing that and work on a proper game update instead like the bloody opt in/out war button!!

I bet the second sneak peak is about wizards

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To start off, I am usually just a spectator on these forums. I generally just like to see what everybody is talking about. Sometimes I agree and disagree. There are lots of loot threads on here, however I have to admit that I've been getting frustrated as well. I've farmed from 1200-1800 trophies as a TH8 and it's just been disgusting.
But the thing I wanted to address is just how ridiculous some peoples complaints are. People are grilling SC for letting us use elixir for walls? Some people talk about how they spent so much time building walls right? I'm only 20 walls away from being done with skulls. So based on some of ya'lls logic, I should be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because I've spent tons of gems on barracks taking hours and hours to get these done right? Well that is not correct. I'm thrilled because now I have the opportunity to be able to go for lego's which seems excellent. Otherwise it would have been maybe a little much for somebody who works 80 hours a week.
My synopsis is this. Unless you have farmed level 11 walls and are maxed, which you haven't because unless you have over 2 billion GG it's pretty much not possible, then just be grateful you now have the ability to get the next level more easily.
Like I said, I don't even grill loot complainers because, well it just flat sucks and yeah supercell I would love that to be fixed. But some of these people have to complain about EVERYTHING?!

P.S. Thanks for that awesome idea SC.

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before it merges with main update thread lemme enlighten you...most are complaining about this change cause it will further degrade the loots...only few are complaining for the walls...

edit: oops too late...

I hope the next sneak peek will be a GOOD sneak peek

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Originally Posted by gorzo93

Low players complain about hogs raiding them all the time: hog nerf

Inferno tower to hard to attack on multi: multi burns slower

Heroes are too hard to defend against: hero nerf

edit: also, I assume that old players spend less as they are just boosting. New players on the other hand may buy resources to speed their progress up, maybe buy builders huts etc.

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Tesla level 8.

Minions level 6.

Freeze spell level 5. The list goes on

Proof that Supercell tends to both low-level and high-level players. Maybe sometimes one more than the other, but to argue that old players get little to no attention is a tad ignorant.

To your edit: From my personal experience and from what my experience with clanmates and other members, people tend to buy and use gems more as they get higher. Of course this is not certain and we don't know the numbers, but the harder it gets the more you need.

Regardless, by the same logic people use to argue against easier walls, we shouldn't be allowed to play Clash of Clans at all because "back-then" people didn't have modern technology.

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Originally Posted by S3an

After the extended period between updates, this is what SC thinks their 2nd birthday of COC update is worth bragging about? OMG, there are so many great ideas mentioned in this forum. This is what they come up with?? I truly think SC wants all their longterm players to quit. SC LISTEN TO THIS FORUM. We give you free feedback and ideas and you ignore 99% of it. Why do we bother??

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Very well said! Thanks Zach!!

And to add to this: we will be monitoring the loot balance and we count on you to give feedback about it. I'm with Zach here about the loot finding its place after a while, like after every time there's been a change like War Loot bonus, League bonus, new collectors and new upgrades that require resources.

What is certain already, is that this will give more options for everyone to make their own choices about how they want to use their resources. I personally will still consider troop and spell upgrades to be my first priority, not using Elixir to walls. That said, I'm sure that there are many people who will want to speed up their wall progress (high level walls do seem to scare off some attackers) and now they can do it if they don't consider other Elixir upgrades to be as important. Everyone will make the choice themselves, and I bet that the choice won't be the same for everyone :)

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Marika: Are you finished monitoring the loot situation you promised that would be so much better after it had settled for a few months? I remember all the boring 200k gold bases we could find before that particular update and cant say farming has become much more exciting since then. I just needed to accept that you didnt tell the truth and attack bases with a lot less loot. It took a little longer but I can live with that.

You tried to sell us a lie then, wrapped in how much better the loot would become. Now you are trying again as bases will be harder to raid with higher level walls and there will be less elixir to raid. The difference this time is that it will stop itself because you have probably underestimated the effect on this. We need elixir to raid you know, and the ballance is pretty fine as it is.

The financial crises we are still living in shows that you can't trust people or businesses to rule the economy. Strict rules are needed or else it just collapses. You just removed one that assured there where allways enugh resources to build exciting armys for every one..

You just got feedback, now go monitor the situation. Ill bet you 10k Gems that you will spend the next year correcting it😜

This new sneak peek revealed for walls is really unfair to those that grinded for gold to level up their walls like I have, and now people can get to my level in much less time and with ease. If I had to grind for so long, why don't others have to also? I can't really think of much to say besides of what I said earlier, that this is unfair to those that grinded walls by using just gold.. Pretty disappointed in this Supercell..

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I hope the next sneak peek will be a GOOD sneak peek

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Was this one not good?

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This new sneak peek revealed for walls is really unfair to those that grinded for gold to level up their walls like I have, and now people can get to my level in much less time and with ease. If I had to grind for so long, why don't others have to also? I can't really think of much to say besides of what I said earlier, that this is unfair to those that grinded walls by using just gold.. Pretty disappointed in this Supercell..

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10 zzz's

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Originally Posted by crucible

The point is that the exclusivity of high level walls is going to be lower.. walls are seen as a trophy, proof you are hardcore. People (including me) spent months grinding this game just for that sense that you were part of the elite. With this change it allows player's to enter the elite much easier. Imagine you got into a top college, with a 2200 on your SAT. The year after you applied and were accepted, the college lowered their requirements to only a 1800 on the SAT. All of a sudden you don't feel as accomplished, and the overall quality of the people around you has gone down.

The second part of your argument is invalid and petty, you have no right to tell others how they should live :^)

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And yet you still got a 2200 on your SAT and those around you didn't, by your own school of thought this should make you feel good because you are now part of the elite of those students. No matter what happens, you still got that 2200, and no one can take that away from you. The rest is just your ego and narcissism.

If people spent half as much time advancing their education or career as they do farming walls they would actually be recognized/elite in something that actually carries weight.

I'll just leave this right here as an illustration...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUhY8JY-cA

Do you have all level 11 walls?

Dear OP, please post in the proper threads that already exist *cough* sneak peaks *cough*

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Was this one not good?

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Nope not at all ! Nada :rolleyes:

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This is a good sneak peek...

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This new sneak peek revealed for walls is really unfair to those that grinded for gold to level up their walls like I have, and now people can get to my level in much less time and with ease. If I had to grind for so long, why don't others have to also? I can't really think of much to say besides of what I said earlier, that this is unfair to those that grinded walls by using just gold.. Pretty disappointed in this Supercell..

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Getting walls to max is still going to be a grind. Those troops & spells to get to the storage to get the resources like DE well... this is going to limit the use of elixir to max out walls. I doubt that this is going to make a huge change to the game. The only difference is for people who have maxed out their elixir upgrades and have full storages.

Not only is it unfair, in the future loot will be a lot harder... No Gold OR elixir in raids? WAy to go, SC. I guess they want people to gem or whatever.

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This new sneak peek revealed for walls is really unfair to those that grinded for gold to level up their walls like I have, and now people can get to my level in much less time and with ease. If I had to grind for so long, why don't others have to also? I can't really think of much to say besides of what I said earlier, that this is unfair to those that grinded walls by using just gold.. Pretty disappointed in this Supercell..

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Unfair? What are you entitled to? It's a game, things change. You farmed for the walls obviously of your own free will. SuperCell did not force you to upgrade them when you did. You take the risk doing that with anything, but you wanted to have the better walls for the time being. Nothing is ever permanent or stays the same in this world. Either adapt or die off like the weak herd.

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Not only is it unfair, in the future loot will be a lot harder... No Gold OR elixir in raids? WAy to go, SC. I guess they want people to gem or whatever.

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umm yeah of course they do, thats how they make more money

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Not only is it unfair, in the future loot will be a lot harder... No Gold OR elixir in raids? WAy to go, SC. I guess they want people to gem or whatever.

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Well before elixir was useless and using your theory there wasn't any gold before

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

Tesla level 8.

Minions level 6.

Freeze spell level 5. The list goes on

Proof that Supercell tends to both low-level and high-level players. Maybe sometimes one more than the other, but to argue that old players get little to no attention is a tad ignorant.

To your edit: From my personal experience and from what my experience with clanmates and other members, people tend to buy and use gems more as they get higher. Of course this is not certain and we don't know the numbers, but the harder it gets the more you need.

Regardless, by the same logic people use to argue against easier walls, we shouldn't be allowed to play Clash of Clans at all because "back-then" people didn't have modern technology.

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Yep a higher level tesla is more game changing than the hero changes.

And stop constructing strawman arguments. I assume you believe that we should also just have one resource that is used for wverything, right?

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Yep a higher level tesla is more game changing than the hero changes.

And stop constructing strawman arguments. I assume you believe that we should also just have one resource that is used for wverything, right?

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Learn to adapt ffs the changes made were because they were needed

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Jorge Yao and SneakyDave would not be happy with this

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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nicely put. But you are missing the point really, the concern of many is the effect this will have on the availability of bases that would make economic sense to raid.

Love it!

Early TH's rely on elixer, so they can use gold for walls, then they rely on gold whilst elixer becomes useless. So.. switch from using gold to elixer on your walls. Perfect.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Simply quoted for truth everyone should just take a minute, breathe deeply, and read.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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If you made top 200, the trophy count doesn't matter, its just as hard to do it today as it was then. Trophy inflation. Im sure bases in low champs are much easier now then they were when you got there. If you made top200, doesn't matter when, its a achievement. But if you made top 200, then they wiped your profile so there is no proof you ever made it that high, back then, thats how people feel about this change.

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nicely put. But you are missing the point really, the concern of many is the effect this will have on the availability of bases that would make economic sense to raid.

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I've adressed that point several times previously in this thread. There are multiple reasons people are upset about this, and pride/diminishment of accomplishment is probably the biggest from high level farmers. Just figured I'd adress that separately, not saying the economics of this aren't irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by owinning

Love it!

Early TH's rely on elixer, so they can use gold for walls, then they rely on gold whilst elixer becomes useless. So.. switch from using gold to elixer on your walls. Perfect.

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Where are you going to get the elixir from? You won't be able to raid it as everyone spent it already on their new walls?

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

If you made top 200, the trophy count doesn't matter, its just as hard to do it today as it was then. Trophy inflation. Im sure bases in low champs are much easier now then they were when you got there. If you made top200, doesn't matter when, its a achievement. But if you made top 200, then they wiped your profile so there is no proof you ever made it that high, back then, thats how people feel about this change.

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And you still have gold grab stats. The price of walls doesn't change that either.

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Originally Posted by James169

Learn to adapt ffs the changes made were because they were needed

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They weren't needed at all. I and many others did it without complaining. Do I expect that of everyone else? No. But now they've flipped the board. Us high leveled wall players are the ones complaining, and rightfully so.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Wonderfully put. What I immediately thought of when I started seeing "trophy" tossed around, the problem they have isn't that it was harder when they did it....its about not being able to show it. Whats the saying? "boys and their toys".


ps....still think it is a terrible idea, pertaining to the economy. I think im done if that is all regarding loot. PLAYING is fun. NEXTING and GRINDING are not. COC should want to stay fun.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

And you still have gold grab stats. The price of walls doesn't change that either.

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But now Zach, everyone and their brother will have high level walls. They used to be a challenge and were the one real challenge of this game. Now, in attempt to make the game easier for new players, they've taken the challenge out for everyone

SC is a business and they have complete right to make this adjustment. This will obviously benefit them.

And no one can deny that it's unfair to those that grinded hard for their high level walls. At the end of the day, it's just a game and there will ALWAYS be adjustments like this in the future to make things easier for newer players.

Besides that, unless you have maxed level 11 walls, you should still be able to benefit from this update. Maybe they'll have new level 12 walls for those with already all level 11 walls?

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Thanks for your long post but it was a waste cause its totally different. There was nothing that made it easier to get to 3842, its just that more people are doing that now and now pushing even higher, nothing really special or unreasonable considering that the game is growing in numbers.

On the other hand, it is easier to farm walls and it is not like trophies that you can always goes higher. So basically, if we will take your case, how would you feel if supercell change the trophy system and make it that with less gems (or using other resource) you can now get to the same trophy count you got back then? I am sure you'll get mad as the hardcore farmers feel.

Anyway, if tyrael got promised by daddy he'll be happy with the rest of the update, who am I to complain :p

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Where are you going to get the elixir from? You won't be able to raid it as everyone spent it already on their new walls?

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Thats why you spend it strategically..........

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Originally Posted by WarWolfA

But now Zach, everyone and their brother will have high level walls. They used to be a challenge and were the one real challenge of this game. Now, in attempt to make the game easier for new players, they've taken the challenge out for everyone

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

Also, just wanna throw this in here. If SC was to make this change for level 10-11 walls only, that's completely fine with me. It still take a lot of work and dedication to get to that point, and I think many others would feel the same way.

Just Becuase you had to grind for gold for your walls doesn't mean the rest of us can't have this update. Honestly. Like I understand how you feel but what about the majority? We, really need this. I'm 13 years old and I got a TH7. Now since i'm 13 I don't have the time to grind gold. I'm also thinking most adults playing also don't have the time. So we (The majority) can't grind. So Supercell makes this update. So us, the majority, now have a little help behind us. I mean in the end the grinders still win. Now you can grind gold and elixir at the same time. Meaning the grinders still win. So really Supercell should keep this update. It helps the majority.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

I once made it to 3842 trophies, hit the top 25 on the US leaderboards and was even on the global leaderboards for a short time. It took me well over a month to push that high, and I even bought a few gems to help me get there. That was, and still is, the proudest achievement of mine in this game. When I did it, this was a huge accomplishment, and I'd get asked all the time about how I got that high, what it was like, etc.

Nowadays 3842 probably wouldn't even get me on the local leaderboards (maybe it barely would, haven't checked recently), but it's certainly nowhere close to the global leaderboards. 3842 is still a big accomplishment and I still have people ask me about it from time to time, but the value of my accomplishment has certainly been dimished in the last 6-8 months since I first achieved it.

However, I'm ok with this. I understand that achievements within this game are never permanent, and that in order for the game to continue evolving, the value of elements already in the game must go down. So what if a few thousand people have now this, I still feel like my accomplishment means something, and I can still prove that I worked hard for it.

The point I'm trying to make is that lots of people view walls as a trophy and not a practical aspect of base building. Those people are understandably upset, but pretty much everyone who has made meaningful accomplishments in this game have seen them decline in importance over time. Where are the daily Jorge Yao threads now? Where is the awe surrounding SneakyDave for his level? You can't stay on top and keep these kinds of achievements forever, and wall farmers/gemmers will soon find this out. It sucks when it happens to you and what's dear to you, but that's life.

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Nice post. I think that you've demonstrated that being proud of your own achievements is far better than trying to keep the prestige of an ever changing standard

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Not a good idea. Gold is difficult to find and now you're just going to make elixir the same way. You guys are just throwing the people that have spent countless hours farming walls under the bus. No idea how this game is going to last much longer when people start getting real frustrated because they aren't able to find any resources now. Thanks for making us farmers waste our time while giving in to the lower th's

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Exactly. Everyone can always find elixir because people have it in their storages. Now that you can use it on walls, all resources will be dry, and attacking is pointless. The only way to farm would be dead bases. Everyone be ready to next a million times and not actually attack!
-BUCKEYE61

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

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Not really. TH9s and below have collector raids still as an option so walls up to L10 will be easier. to farm zaps you don't really have the luxury of an abundance of dead villages to raid from due to the penalties as the top th.

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

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So let's see if I understand here. Not only has SC allowed for another way to upgrade walls, they are also making the economy worse than it was? Lovely...

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

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Abandoned bases will still have the same amount of elixir as before, no one to spend it on walls. So what used to be base to get only 100-450k for walls will be 200-900k for walls, doubles the amount you get.

You don't find them as much as before but I know that everyone now will look on the total amount of loot and not only gold, so they'll attack bases with less gold that they would never would have attacked before.

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Originally Posted by BUCKEYE61

Exactly. Everyone can always find elixir because people have it in their storages. Now that you can use it on walls, all resources will be dry, and attacking is pointless. The only way to farm would be dead bases. Everyone be ready to next a million times and not actually attack!
-BUCKEYE61

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Bruh... You only saw sneek peek #1 you dont know what supercell is gonna do next.

woo hoo! i can maybe get skulls as th 8 LOL but still a good thing is that a lot of players are quitting which means… ALOT of loot is incoming and mostly high level farmers are quiting so :rolleyes::rolleyes: LOOT for ALL

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

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It will still be a lot easier though as you have two resources to use to upgrade them. I'm happy with the change personally. I've been sitting on max elix for as long as I can remember with nothing to use it on other than troops and spells. I only have around 70 zaps left so this is coming from someone that's almost maxed their walls also… It would be interesting if they had a look at other things for high trophy players with maxed bases. They always seem to have max gold because they have nothing to spend it on. Perhaps spells could cost gold or elixir also? Also DE could perhaps have a place for upgrading walls also for those that have max heroes?

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Where are you going to get the elixir from? You won't be able to raid it as everyone spent it already on their new walls?

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You NEVER spend all of your resources. You should always leave a buffer for other expenditures. If you are wise, and think ahead, you wont run into any problems. You are also missing the point that you can STILL use gold.

When the next Sneak Peek is revealed. Will the first post made by Marika just be edited?

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Thanks for your long post but it was a waste cause its totally different. There was nothing that made it easier to get to 3842, its just that more people are doing that now and now pushing even higher, nothing really special or unreasonable considering that the game is growing in numbers.

On the other hand, it is easier to farm walls and it is not like trophies that you can always goes higher. So basically, if we will take your case, how would you feel if supercell change the trophy system and make it that with less gems (or using other resource) you can now get to the same trophy count you got back then? I am sure you'll get mad as the hardcore farmers feel.

Anyway, if tyrael got promised by daddy he'll be happy with the rest of the update, who am I to complain :p

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You have missed the point my friend. It's not even that it's easier (which it objectively is) so much as that more people are doing it. More people having something means it loses its prestige. If everyone who could afford a Ferrari got one, it doesn't mean Ferraris got easier to buy, but it does mean they would lose some of their value associated with its exclusiveness.

when SC was saying changing the COC economy, I knew it was for reducing the loot more.

no surprise.

When will this update happen? ?

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So let's see if I understand here. Not only has SC allowed for another way to upgrade walls, they are also making the economy worse than it was? Lovely...

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Yes, but these effects are inversely related. The worse the elixir drain, the less people will be investing elixir in walls (they would need it for troops, spells, etc. first). The weaker the elixir drain, the better the economy but the more walls are upgraded. People are saying both will happen terribly, but that doesn't make sense. It's likely that there will be an intermediate balance struck in the coming weeks.

Omg great move supercell, even im th9 with maxed skulls and many legos done; i cant wait for this to be implemented as im always sitting on 8 million elixir. Lets no talk about all the millions i lose on raids for lack of storage.

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When the next Sneak Peek is revealed. Will the first post made by Marika just be edited?

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Yes indeed, normally next sneak peek is tomorrow. 24h hours after the first one

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people are already saying that economy is ruined while we are still on the first sneak peek… smh thats why i hate looking at sneak peek threads

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Where are you going to get the elixir from? You won't be able to raid it as everyone spent it already on their new walls?

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You have missed the point my friend. It's not even that it's easier (which it objectively is) so much as that more people are doing it. More people having something means it loses its prestige. If everyone who could afford a Ferrari got one, it doesn't mean Ferraris got easier to buy, but it does mean they would lose some of their value associated with its exclusiveness. The "easier" aspect is whole different argument.

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I think we both missed each other points lol

Hardcore farmers doesn't care even if all of the players in the game will farm their base to max, just as long as they done it the same way they did it without anyone making their life (CoC became our lifes :eek: ) easier.

So yeah, the more players are in the game, the more hardcore players that will farm their and/or push trophies, that's logical in games like this. But there is no reason to let it grow exponentially (an exaggeration) just to make casual players happy.

Anyway, I get your point now, but still it doesn't really matter cause what happened to farming now is completely different than what happening with trophies.

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Yes, but these effects are inversely related. The worse the elixir drain, the less people will be investing elixir in walls (they would need it for troops, spells, etc. first). The weaker the elixir drain, the better the economy but the more walls are upgraded. People are saying both will happen terribly, but that doesn't make sense. It's likely that there will be an intermediate balance struck in the coming weeks.

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When you say "the weaker the elixir drain", would that in and of itself lower the available elixir? Now that everyone has less elixir, won't there be less for me to take? Or am I missing something here?

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Don't know why all you sheep think saying that is funny. It's not constructive nor is it entertaining. Now turn around and go be apart of another herd somewhere else.

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Was it supposed to be funny? I'm just saying what they should do if they are really fed up of COC

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I think we both missed each other points lol

Hardcore farmers doesn't care even if all of the players in the game will farm their base to max, just as long as they done it the same way they did it without anyone making their life (CoC became our lifes :eek: ) easier.

So yeah, the more players are in the game, the more hardcore players that will farm their and/or push trophies, that's logical in games like this. But there is no reason to let it grow exponentially (an exaggeration) just to make casual players happy.

Anyway, I get your point now, but still it doesn't really matter cause what happened to farming now is completely different than what happening with trophies.

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So...what you're saying is the game should never change. And every one should have to do the same thing you did, exactly how you did it. Otherwise it'd be unfair right?

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I can't help but point put the hyperbole here. Elixir will be far less abundant after the update, and upgrading walls won't be as easy with elixir as people are making it out to be. Level 9 walls now will still be harder than level 10s after the update, let alone zaps.

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by your own admission... bad loot will get worse so are there gonna be changes in making an army too.. make a golden army maybe ??? cause as of now a decent army with spells and you have to keep nexting just to recover the cost....

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So...what you're saying is the game should never change. And every one should have to do the same thing you did, exactly how you did it. Otherwise it'd be unfair right?

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So someone did get my point ;)

If you're happy about this update, your base either looks like this:
http://i42.tinypic.com/23uc26r.png
Low levelled/premature and never took time to raid the gold for walls. (I'm assuming 65% in this category)

this:

http://i42.tinypic.com/29o61ja.png
Maxed th with nothing left to upgrade but walls so you have an excess of elixir. (25%)

or this:
http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws...21dbd760_8.jpg
Maxed base other than walls (and heroes). (10%)

♥♥♥♥ this is really dumb !!! We asked for NEXTING to be with elixir not walls... Second strike supercell

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So someone did get my point ;)

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Well you poor poor thing, but sorry that just isn't how life works. Things change, adapt to survive or die off. There is no end all be all solution to every problem, this will help and with what ever else they have planned i'm sure most will be happy.

Im a TH9 with full Legos & have recently started grinding lavas.
Been sitting on full elix storages for months. This is a welcome update for me :-)