Opt-out for Clan wars option/button

i believe i read some where that someone has had the same idea on the limiting the amount of players to opt-out but that doesn't solve the problem because now your limiting how players want to do it and yes, if you chose to opt-out alot, maybe that clan is not for you.

@Sar7 in one of your post, you stated that the clan is forcing them to opt-out, one of my idea is that the leader/elder doesn't get to pick who opt-out but each players get the button and choose how to use it and of course, the clan leader deiced if this player is worth it or not, or the player deiced if this is the right clan for him.

p.s i'm a hardcore gamer, i'm all about the NG+ life :)

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Originally Posted by FateValkyrie

i believe i read some where that someone has had the same idea on the limiting the amount of players to opt-out but that doesn't solve the problem because now your limiting how players want to do it and yes, if you chose to opt-out alot, maybe that clan is not for you.

@Sar7 in one of your post, you stated that the clan is forcing them to opt-out, one of my idea is that the leader/elder doesn't get to pick who opt-out but each players get the button and choose how to use it and of course, the clan leader deiced if this player is worth it or not, or the player deiced if this is the right clan for him.

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I think you might have misunderstood my first post; you should re-read it again. But to point out what I was saying is, I understand Supercell's point that a clan forcing someone to opt out of a war doesn't lead to a "friendly" environment, but they can already do this in more severe ways (such as kicking the person from the clan), which is even worse than allowing them to willingly opt out of the war. So I'm somewhat torn in that I understand why Supercell seems to dislike the idea but also think that what they're concerned about exists with or without an ability to opt out.

Ah i c, sorry about that.

I believe they are more torn on how to implement it. easy way is a button per player to opt-out, but they trying to figure out more option. (ie: should they do a enlistment list instead or let leader choose who to opt-out and/or choose who's in for the war).

i think that's what they are torn on about, it's not the idea they dislike, it's what's more better that will fit into their game (judging from the official post they wrote, that what i think they are feeling). And yes if they just supplement the opt-out button for now, it would be a world wonder until they figure out how they want to go with this.

Ok I'm having a brainstorm here but maybe this could work:

Rather than letting the leaders force you to sit out they have a button the works separately. Theirs could be say "Recommend Opt Out" in which the player would receive an option to accept or decline the offer. If after say an hour there is no response the person is set to opt out automatically. Or if they decline they can still participate in the war.

This way it stops the leaders choosing the elite ppl warring while others watch. Also it means leaders don't have to kick ppl out to start a war. The worst case is the player in question sits out and has a chance to talk with the leaders to determine if it's the right clan etc.. And have an amicable parting if need be.

Players should always be able to turn themselves to "not available" for the war when they are away.

If the players are refusing the opt out at the leaders request then they can sort that in the usual methods: kick etc..

Does that make sense? Seems to solve all the issues in leader power trips as they can't force ppl out merely suggest it and deal with the answer - bottom line is the player can still choose to participate and only be stopped if kicked out (same as current model)

I wonder if your experience in clash of clan and clan war is different then mines, my clan is open arms to all who put a real war effort into an attack, one star or none as long as they build them self toward a win (using top tier troops and improving). We only opt-out players who want to be out or that they are are in the middle of something (upgrading etc).

So your 'Leader who Recommend opt-out' idea is something that's surprising to me since in your case, your war is based on elite players only and it seems that your force in a way to not be able to join said war unless a vacant spot is open up. imo that is totally against what supercell's vision for this game. I wonder if this is what they mean about the whole giving crab thing that they posted, i'm pretty shock to hear that this is how most war are being operated.

I believe that the opt-out button is needed but this whole crab claw deal is a different matter and that i would like to protest the unrighteous idea that a player should be built of elitist. (well in higher tier like champion and master, you outta be committed at that point so i bet it doesn't apply to them but anything lower then that is an out rage).

A true leader should build his clanmate up, not hold them back and don't let them experience anything. you might as well tell them that they are a air bubble, it's there but not there at the same time. (btw your a terrible person if you do say that to them)

At this rate, my rage might get this post closed, i totally feel like the only thing really preventing a well needed button is human mind set that's base on a iron fist, when did this phone game became so hardcore, it's so idiotic that i'm ready to lose my account to say my piece of mind.

hope you guys understand where i'm coming from.

i would like for you to either answer my question on this post or PM me.

can i confirm this is truly the reason why the opt-out button hasn't been implemented?

if so, you can delete this whole post/tread. i'm just embarrassed of my now suppose ranting. you keep that button off the game and continue what you were doing, never let anyone doubt you!

thank you

FateValkyrie

I'm always the last one to think of things but I just posted this idea in another thread.

This button or switch should be able to be toggled on and off with like a 10 minute cool down. Once clan war search starts they all lock in for the war.

This would fix so many arguments in clans. My clan is a clan of friends. While we all like each other. Half want to war and half don't for some reason or another and it's never the same people who want what. This would solve everything.

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Originally Posted by Adavidson01

I'm always the last one to think of things but I just posted this idea in another thread.

This button or switch should be able to be toggled on and off with like a 10 minute cool down. Once clan war search starts they all lock in for the war.

This would fix so many arguments in clans. My clan is a clan of friends. While we all like each other. Half want to war and half don't for some reason or another and it's never the same people who want what. This would solve everything.

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sorry to say, but i also wrote how the button should work as well, check out the bold-ed part that says so here my idea:


so you were slow on both ends :P

only different is that yours locked up when the war search begins

Hello Steve,

Thanks for this feedback on this subject. I would like to comment few points of your message.

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

Hey Guys,

We've talked A LOT about adding an opt-out feature in Clan Wars and it's not currently in the cards. At this point, we just haven't found the right solution that fits Clash how it should. We always try to avoid unnecessary complexity in our feature design and strive for features that work consistently and simply for all players. Some players would be thrilled with an opt-out system, but others would prefer things like opt-in, leader-chooses, variable team sizes, or other solutions.

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An action accessible through the clan list could do the job.
I want to precise that the ideal solution is that a player can opt in/out but also the chief can opt in/out somebody (to solve situation for which the guy is in holiday and forgot to opt out)
If I refer to the rest of the design which is excellent and always simple, I trust you will find the best design for that :)

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Also, letting players pick-and-choose what components of their clan experience they participate in is not a design philosophy we support. When you're in a clan, you should all be in it together! Even further, implementing a system that can enable undue pressure on players ("Opt out or we'll kick you" or "Give me Crab Claws or you can't come to war with us") falls far short of this mark.

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I just want to point that clan which are "non democratic" or only focused on performance have already the solution, they simply kick the guy.
The problem is more for the clan for which conviviality and living together is more important than performance.
I've the luck to be in such a clan and I can't imagine to kick out someone who is just in holiday or in a low playing period and don't have much time to participate due to real life constraints.
The only issue is this create a bit of tension between those who invest a lot in clan wars (filling clan castles, doign attack in full power mode with expensives troop and those who either don't participate or just participate with some crappy troops just to say they have been into).
We have been facing some departure of much appreciated people just because they don't have time to play in clan war.

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That being said, we're in favor of adding more control and meaningful direction to Clan Wars. When we look into the next batch of Clan Wars features, that will be the time to reconsider things like opt-out systems, and possibly come up with better solutions that encourage everyone in their Clan to stick together and participate no matter what. We'll see what happens!

We'll keep tabs on any feedback and ideas you guys come up with for future Clan Wars improvements. Keep the feedback coming.

Cheers,

Steve

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To sum up, I don't see bad aspects because as mentionned this opt out feature is not needed in clan which don't hesitate to kick people. It's mostly needed for clan which focus on living together in "harmony"

So Steve, this feature would be really really appreciated!
I hope it'll be in next clan war bundle!
Thanks for your attention
Red