Clan war on/off Button. (clan wars tearing clans apart)

I. Introduction\Problem:confused::confused:
Well this is a serious matter. I have been in a clan for many months.. then clan wars came we enjoyed it very much.. but when i got busy on my career.. i dont have time to visit my base everyday...
since in clan wars i am automatically joined,
i cant attack and cant help to my clan.. since then our clan had a problem.
They have to kick me everytime they start a war, because they know i cant use my attack. it's a waste.
this situation has been going for few weeks. until i got frustrated and never came back for my old clan. now i dont have any clan. :(:mad: im not inactive i just cant attack in clan war cause of schedule.


II. Idea/Solution
My Suggestion is creating a button. a button which tells if you want to join clan wars or not. it basically appear on the clan castle part. it's either join clan war or not.


III. Conlusion.
Clan war is fun. But it can be lonely sometimes that it can destroy very good clans.


Hope you reply and Hear my Idea. Peace:(
Ps:If you have the same Problem please comment so that developers can see this. Thankyou

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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I. Introduction\Problem:confused::confused:
Well this is a serious matter. I have been in a clan for many months.. then clan wars came we enjoyed it very much.. but when i got busy on my career.. i dont have time to visit my base everyday...
since in clan wars i am automatically joined,
i cant attack and cant help to my clan.. since then our clan had a problem.
They have to kick me everytime they start a war, because they know i cant use my attack. it's a waste.
this situation has been going for few weeks. until i got frustrated and never came back for my old clan. now i dont have any clan. :(:mad: im not inactive i just cant attack in clan war cause of schedule.


II. Idea/Solution
My Suggestion is creating a button. a button which tells if you want to join clan wars or not. it basically appear on the clan castle part. it's either join clan war or not.


III. Conlusion.
Clan war is fun. But it can be lonely sometimes that it can destroy very good clans.


Hope you reply and Hear my Idea. Peace:(
Ps:If you have the same Problem please comment so that developers can see this. Thankyou

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can someone notice this post?

This has been suggested too many times, use the search function.

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Originally Posted by xmaxer

This has been suggested too many times, use the search function.

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oh is that so? well my goal is that i will bring the issue again, so they will notice it-.- hope you understand.:eek:

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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

oh is that so? well my goal is that i will bring the issue again, so they will notice it-.- hope you understand.:eek:

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Your post will just get merged into another, posting more about it is pointless.

Supercell have already said that this is not currently in consideration. But who knows what the future will bring

As much as it should be considered (Judging from the pubic opinion) Making multiple threads isn't going to help...It's not like they just don't realise that this famous idea is floating around, they're humans, not monkeys.

This is good idea, but CWs are about that all players go on and battle. If you make your account unable to participate in CW then the Leader can't start CW because some players don't want to participate and he can't know about this
Simply - The Leader rely on the best players of clan and he want start a war. Leader start a war and then he will find out that the best players aren't participating in CW and they will loose.
Sry this can't be in game.

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Originally Posted by ClashingWithCUBOX

This is good idea, but CWs are about that all players go on and battle. If you make your account unable to participate in CW then the Leader can't start CW because some players don't want to participate and he can't know about this
Simply - The Leader rely on the best players of clan and he want start a war. Leader start a war and then he will find out that the best players aren't participating in CW and they will loose.
Sry this can't be in game.

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You do realise that all they would have to do is put a special marking next to their name or make a list accessible to the clan of people not participating.

Thanks for posting. Numerous polls now have shown that over 80% of users want to see this. I am one of those and I am trying to make sure this need remains always as visible as possible (I reply to all thread on it plus started my own as well) so I appreciate all of the others that weigh in. Even though there have been many threads, after they run down (usually not until they get pages of comments, mostly supporting) it helps show how strong this need is that new ones do keep popping up. Like the previous commenter has indicated, it has been suggested numerous times. That just means it is not just an idle thought but rather something badly wanted by most of the COC community.

thanks again


Here is a thread (and there are several more) on exactly this idea.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...an-wars/page24

Also here is an excerpt from that thread that describes my own vision for how it should work.

How it should work...

There should be a button (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

I really wish this idea would get implemented. About half my clan loves to war, the other half doesn't so losing is typically the result. Even if everyone wanted to play, life gets in the way so it would be nice to be able to opt out when I have to spend the day offline.

My vision on this would be to make it a 3-day process:
Day 1 - leader announces intent to war. Everyone's buttons are set to "opt out" and must be changed by the person. Perhaps make the duration time period to "opt in" selectable by the leader/coleader as well as giving them the ability to opt in their clan members. This way clans that are consistent in their warring choices can go to war in the same timeframe as now.
Day 2&3 proceed as Day1&2 do now.

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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I. Introduction\Problem:confused::confused:
Well this is a serious matter. I have been in a clan for many months.. then clan wars came we enjoyed it very much.. but when i got busy on my career.. i dont have time to visit my base everyday...
since in clan wars i am automatically joined,
i cant attack and cant help to my clan.. since then our clan had a problem.
They have to kick me everytime they start a war, because they know i cant use my attack. it's a waste.
this situation has been going for few weeks. until i got frustrated and never came back for my old clan. now i dont have any clan. :(:mad: im not inactive i just cant attack in clan war cause of schedule.


II. Idea/Solution
My Suggestion is creating a button. a button which tells if you want to join clan wars or not. it basically appear on the clan castle part. it's either join clan war or not.


III. Conlusion.
Clan war is fun. But it can be lonely sometimes that it can destroy very good clans.


Hope you reply and Hear my Idea. Peace:(
Ps:If you have the same Problem please comment so that developers can see this. Thankyou

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If you're unable to do war just lower your trophies so you're in the bottom 4 of the clan. The bottom four members aren't able to participate in the war.

I do it whenever I know I can't take part due to commitments.

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Originally Posted by Morgatai

I really wish this idea would get implemented. About half my clan loves to war, the other half doesn't so losing is typically the result. Even if everyone wanted to play, life gets in the way so it would be nice to be able to opt out when I have to spend the day offline.

My vision on this would be to make it a 3-day process:
Day 1 - leader announces intent to war. Everyone's buttons are set to "opt out" and must be changed by the person. Perhaps make the duration time period to "opt in" selectable by the leader/coleader as well as giving them the ability to opt in their clan members. This way clans that are consistent in their warring choices can go to war in the same timeframe as now.
Day 2&3 proceed as Day1&2 do now.

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If they add the feature your vision would be possible and you should by all means administrate the plan how you want. My own clan I would just tell everyone to maintain their button. Plus, as leader I might click it here or there is a guy has suddenly gone silent and I want to be able to hold him out until we find out what's up there. (Last time I kicked a kid for not participating I later found out he had been hospitalized due to a skateboarding accident. I have to concede that was a forgivable excuse)

Here is a different poll from the one I posted above. It is showing that 90% of users would like to have these options available to them.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-In-Out-of-War

I feel your pain since clan war came people just asking for clan war people who ask for normal clan don't wanna join warring clan now are bored and never played again its hard to find people like those they are more loyal then people who ask for warring clan but i don't think this will make any different those people are all ready gone

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Originally Posted by FireThief

If you're unable to do war just lower your trophies so you're in the bottom 4 of the clan. The bottom four members aren't able to participate in the war.

I do it whenever I know I can't take part due to commitments.

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3 problems with that suggestion:

1 - my clan typically has 45 players so it's likely that I'd still be a part of it as all 45 (assuming all members eligible at that moment) will be pulled into the war.
2 - even if the last four never got pulled into war there can be more than 4 wanting to opt out.
3 - that trophy range may not be ideal for finding nice targets. Not a big problem if I just need to skip one war, but if I'm busy building my base and would prefer not spending resources on a war it becomes more problematic.

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Originally Posted by Bastion15

I feel your pain since clan war came people just asking for clan war people who ask for normal clan don't wanna join warring clan now are bored and never played again its hard to find people like those they are more loyal then people who ask for warring clan but i don't think this will make any different those people are all ready gone

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No, it won't bring back those that have permanently left, but it could keep more from following them.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Thanks for posting. Numerous polls now have shown that over 80% of users want to see this. I am one of those and I am trying to make sure this need remains always as visible as possible (I reply to all thread on it plus started my own as well) so I appreciate all of the others that weigh in. Even though there have been many threads, after they run down (usually not until they get pages of comments, mostly supporting) it helps show how strong this need is that new ones do keep popping up. Like the previous commenter has indicated, it has been suggested numerous times. That just means it is not just an idle thought but rather something badly wanted by most of the COC community.

thanks again


Here is a thread (and there are several more) on exactly this idea.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...an-wars/page24

Also here is an excerpt from that thread that describes my own vision for how it should work.

How it should work...

There should be a button (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

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great idea! hope supercell will read this.

Suggested before but I'm glad you posted it. Helps reinforce to Supercell how much we need an opt in/out list for war that can be controlled by leader/co.

This was a problem in our clan. We have die hard "war junkies" & die hard farmers.

To solve the problem we now run two clans.

One clan just for when we want a war, the other clan is a social clan (farming, friends, inactives)

Right now we run 35-40 members and everyone clan hops back and forth weekly.

It's a pain yes and a war button that makes you active for war would help the clan jumping.

There's ways around this problem like we have done, but Supercell could fix it with a magic wand :D

(also, clan leader should be able to control who he wants in war and who not)

This is a really smart idea. I take sides with this because sometimes im to focused on upgrading my defenses and getting put into the war just counts me as a loss to my clan. Its not fair to them that im not able to upgrade my defenses quicker and them lose because the other clan is 3 starring me and the lower clan memebers.

This is a great idea ,it will help the coleaders and leader more ,plus people will not have to be getting kick and invite again just for start wars

I have a far easier and much better solution. All the non combatants can make their own farming clans. This way, SC can work on more important clan war updates, like tournaments or leaderboards, for those of us that want to play a WAR game properly.

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Originally Posted by BlargityTucker

Suggested before but I'm glad you posted it. Helps reinforce to Supercell how much we need an opt in/out list for war that can be controlled by leader/co.

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actually i don't know that there is an existing thread. but i really and my clan and all of my friends really want this to be in the next update. and i really appreciate that someone here wants this to..

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Originally Posted by Autosear

This was a problem in our clan. We have die hard "war junkies" & die hard farmers.

To solve the problem we now run two clans.

One clan just for when we want a war, the other clan is a social clan (farming, friends, inactives)

Right now we run 35-40 members and everyone clan hops back and forth weekly.

It's a pain yes and a war button that makes you active for war would help the clan jumping.

There's ways around this problem like we have done, but Supercell could fix it with a magic wand :D

(also, clan leader should be able to control who he wants in war and who not)

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Yes so that clan wars will not tear a clan down. this is really appreciated. :):)

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Originally Posted by Herber

This is a great idea ,it will help the coleaders and leader more ,plus people will not have to be getting kick and invite again just for start wars

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Great idea indeed. i Hope SC Dev team will notice this. -.-

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Originally Posted by xmaxer

This has been suggested too many times, use the search function.

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This is one issue I think everyone should yell their head off every day again and again until ♥♥ implements the change. This is something that is critically needed and we must be vocal about it to ♥♥ until they do it.

And by the way - if anyone wants a clan that does not war much, see my signature below. We may do our first war soon but going forward we wont do them often. If we are full at the time you request, check back soon as we have some very inactive people that will get kicked soon (inactive for multiple seasons).

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Originally Posted by Hushdatnoise

I have a far easier and much better solution. All the non combatants can make their own farming clans. This way, SC can work on more important clan war updates, like tournaments or leaderboards, for those of us that want to play a WAR game properly.

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This is easy as you said. IF AND ONLY IF you have other player. Building a clan is hard. specially if you only want people to recruit only in your country.. this is an alternative yet least effective solution.

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Originally Posted by gamul1

This is one issue I think everyone should yell their head off every day again and again until ♥♥ implements the change. This is something that is critically needed and we must be vocal about it to ♥♥ until they do it.

And by the way - if anyone wants a clan that does not war much, see my signature below. We may do our first war soon but going forward we wont do them often. If we are full at the time you request, check back soon as we have some very inactive people that will get kicked soon (inactive for multiple seasons).

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That's right.. this should be implemented. thanks for the support.

idea 2 is awesome :)

Clans wars needs this... some sort of opt in/opt out, clan wars roster. Please do this. Way too much bad blood within clans because we lose clan wars due to the fact that folks are simply out of town with no Internet access.

In love clanwar but i have the same problem sometimes...

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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

This is easy as you said. IF AND ONLY IF you have other player. Building a clan is hard. specially if you only want people to recruit only in your country.. this is an alternative yet least effective solution.

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None of that is fact, building a clan is easy, you get a bunch of peeps who want to fight, then you fight as often as possible, while getting rid of dead weight and farmers. My solution is best, because it can happen right now without any need to change or add anything, it just needs the non combatants to understand that CoC is a war game.

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Originally Posted by Hushdatnoise

None of that is fact, building a clan is easy, you get a bunch of peeps who want to fight, then you fight as often as possible, while getting rid of dead weight and farmers. My solution is best, because it can happen right now without any need to change or add anything, it just needs the non combatants to understand that CoC is a war game.

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Regarding your comment "My solution is best" - You can feel yours is best and for you personally it just might be, but the other 80-90% that has voted they feel the other way are also entitled to their opinions too.

Adding the feature will not take away your ability to have it your way how you run your clan. it will just help others that don't want to be forced to the same.

Regarding your comment "it just needs the non combatants to understand that CoC is a war game" - Even though I personally, like you, love war and play it hard, I think we have to respect that COC is whatever the users want it to be. And as long as their is a contingent that likes just farming and doing the social part their wishes need to be respected.

Also, even the most hard core warrior needs to go on vacation, or can have an event that takes them off line, or need to take a little time to focus on school, work, or family, and other such things. This is a way to allow those things that does not involve just kicking the person either temporarily or permanently.

I thought your response was in that "everybody has to just see things my way" category.

Feel free to join the larger discussion with all of the information already hashed out.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...of-War)/page16

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Originally Posted by Morgatai

3 problems with that suggestion:

1 - my clan typically has 45 players so it's likely that I'd still be a part of it as all 45 (assuming all members eligible at that moment) will be pulled into the war.
2 - even if the last four never got pulled into war there can be more than 4 wanting to opt out.
3 - that trophy range may not be ideal for finding nice targets. Not a big problem if I just need to skip one war, but if I'm busy building my base and would prefer not spending resources on a war it becomes more problematic.

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Hmmmm, in that case you might need to look at finding yourself a new clan if your leader is not happy with you missing wars or yourself with being kicked constantly.

I would like this to be added to the game in some respects but I fear its going to be a while before it is.

Do you poop once a day? do your first clan war attack while you poop.

Do you go to sleep every day? do your second attack just before you go to sleep.

It's not hard to get a maximum of 6 minutes worth of CW raids in once every two days.

If you don't want to think, do an all-dragon raid with rage spells, guaranteed 2-stars on any TH8 and most TH9 bases.

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Originally Posted by hawdog

Do you go to sleep every day? do your second attack just before you go to sleep.

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That's what I do^ first attack is just before I hit the hay and second is when I wake up.

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Originally Posted by xmaxer

As much as it should be considered (Judging from the pubic opinion) Making multiple threads isn't going to help...It's not like they just don't realise that this famous idea is floating around, they're humans, not monkeys.

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Lol pubic opinion.

Anyway, to the idea. Yes, it has been suggested many, many times but it is still a great idea in need of consideration. One person who is out should not have to leave the clan, abandoning all ranks, so the clan does not suffer an inactive.

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Originally Posted by BlargityTucker

Suggested before but I'm glad you posted it. Helps reinforce to Supercell how much we need an opt in/out list for war that can be controlled by leader/co.

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Yes, suggested many times. But the hope is that if it stays out there with guys continue saying they want it maybe Supercell will take notice.

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Originally Posted by Morgatai

3 problems with that suggestion:

1 - my clan typically has 45 players so it's likely that I'd still be a part of it as all 45 (assuming all members eligible at that moment) will be pulled into the war.
2 - even if the last four never got pulled into war there can be more than 4 wanting to opt out.
3 - that trophy range may not be ideal for finding nice targets. Not a big problem if I just need to skip one war, but if I'm busy building my base and would prefer not spending resources on a war it becomes more problematic.

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4-Your spel factory or your dark barracks(assuming you only have one) could be under construction.

And I really can't understand why supercell are not considering to have this feature in the game?

Our clan fell apart becoz only half the members were active and attacking in the wars

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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I. Introduction\Problem:confused::confused:
Well this is a serious matter. I have been in a clan for many months.. then clan wars came we enjoyed it very much.. but when i got busy on my career.. i dont have time to visit my base everyday...
since in clan wars i am automatically joined,
i cant attack and cant help to my clan.. since then our clan had a problem.
They have to kick me everytime they start a war, because they know i cant use my attack. it's a waste.
this situation has been going for few weeks. until i got frustrated and never came back for my old clan. now i dont have any clan. :(:mad: im not inactive i just cant attack in clan war cause of schedule.


II. Idea/Solution
My Suggestion is creating a button. a button which tells if you want to join clan wars or not. it basically appear on the clan castle part. it's either join clan war or not.


III. Conlusion.
Clan war is fun. But it can be lonely sometimes that it can destroy very good clans.


Hope you reply and Hear my Idea. Peace:(
Ps:If you have the same Problem please comment so that developers can see this. Thankyou

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SC ruled this out (at least anytime in the immediate future) yesterday. There is a link to the thread in my sig below.

The writer is right and supercell must act on this and make this an option cuz people's gets kicked cuz they are assumed inactive and they dont have the time for constant clan wars supercell must set a limit for wars or create an waver option button. Or let the demand get louder and people will quit their game. And it's their loss.

bump............