Going to TH9 early

I have all purple walls, one mortar maxed, 1 wizard tower maxed, 1 cannon maxed, 0 archer towers maxed, all air defenses maxed, and teslas at level 4. Regardless, I started my upgrade to TH9 yesterday. As the leader of a good war clan who uses GoWiPe, I simply could not resist the temptation of the 20 extra army slots, the extra spell slot with the jump spell, witches, and the AQ. That's it for me, it's all about building a more effective GoWiPe army, and soon GoWiWiPe army. I mean X-bows are cool, but I want the offensive firepower. Plan is to stay here as a somewhat premmie TH9 and max out until going to TH10. I understand that moreso than with any other TH upgrade that it is more important to max TH9 before going to 10. Is this true?

What a stupid decision, you're going to need to make like 12M elixir just for xbow and army camps.
Anyway good luck taking a year or so maxing out.

The strategy of tjis game is patients. It's a benefit to me if you rush your town hall but I still have to warn you that I love finding premmie TH9. Nothing short of max. TH8 defenses will stop me.

i would cancel and get that half my money back. Do you have any idea how good loot is for a th8? Get hogs to lev4, upgrade your pekkas. Both those troops are worthless to you until you do and you have plenty of attack power right now.

you get AQ, lv.6 troops, lv.5 hogs for the firepower (witch will come later)
then you get more drills and 4-th storage for better production.
then you get more walls, ad, wt, tesla, at, bombs and xbows for much better defense

there is no point to stay on th8 after you got lv.5 basic troops.

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Originally Posted by sharonsym

you get AQ, lv.6 troops, lv.5 hogs for the firepower (witch will come later)
then you get more drills and 4-th storage for better production.
then you get more walls, ad, wt, tesla, at, bombs and xbows for much better defense

there is no point to stay on th8 after you got lv.5 basic troops.

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Exactly

Im bored. Whats "stupid" (for the poster above) is to remain bored in a game which I am playing for fun. .

What does needing to have to make millions of elixir for xbows have to do with anything? What a dumb comment. If I waited to max th8, would that make the amount of elixir I need for xbows decrease or something? As soon as I go TH9 the first upgrades will be the army camp. And I will be collector raiding TH8's with four boosted barracks and level 5 barbs and archers. And Ill get rich doing it. I make millions farming in two hours with all boosted barracks. Big deal.

Taking a year to max out? It would take a year to max out 9 whether I do some of my upgrading which could have been done at th8 at TH9 instead, its not going to change the amount of time which it ultimately takes to max out TH9. It would take the same amount of time. So your logic is illogical, at best.

loot is so awesome at TH8 i'm surprised you would leave that. GL finding 200k off a TH7.

Stupid Decision, loot is so much better at TH8

There is a lot of loot at a nearly maxed th8. I thought walls would be a pain, but it wasn't. My lab had very little down time and I upgraded black walls really quick.

If you go to Th9 without the fully upgraded your going to get raided a lot. This will make it slower to upgrade and its a long uphill battle to correct this. You think you're bored now? Lol

Its also going to match you with tougher war opponents. Costing you more resourses adding to your slow progress.

Thats how I look at it anyways.

I'm in the process of upgrading to TH9 early, this is what I currently have
Troops/Spells: lvl6 barb king. lvl5 - barbs, arch, wbs, giants, loons. lvl4 - gobs, lightning. lvl3 - drags, wiz, minions, rage, heal. lvl2 - hogs.
Defences: walls 98 pink, 126 purple, 1 skull. x3 lvl6 mortars, x3 lvl5 air def, x3 lvl4 wiz tower, x2 lvl2 x1 lvl3 tesla, x4 lvl8 x1 lvl9 cannons, x2 lvl7 x2 lvl8 x1 lvl9 arch tower.

Now some say max TH8 first but this is the problem if I had decided to max first I'd still be losing over 1k of my DE per raid due to those TH9's with their lvl6 giants and I can't get it back on revenge because their base has xbows as well as AQ and more defences so why am I gonna let that happen every day just to max some defences, the way I see it is go to TH9 get the AQ, lvl6 giants, camp upgrade and all the rest then let's see how much DE I lose per day. Oh but wait a sec then I'll face the same type of scenario with TH10's lol but that's just how the game is TH10 take from TH9, TH9 take from TH8 so forget about maxing defences unless your TH10 because no matter what TH you are there's always gonna be someone that will get your loot

Don't do it. Max out your TH8.

BTW what level are your golems, wizards, pekkas, and dark barracks?
GoWiPe is good at th9, i agree, but offense is only 50% of clan wars. In elite warring clans, you have to have a great defense. There is no point in rushing your TH to get more firepower if your opponent's th8 members can 3star you, thus, leaving their th9 members with more attacks on possible 2 stars on your th10s or more chances for 3stars on your th9s

Rushing is totally up to you, but to most people its a HORRIBLE idea. I've met soooooo many people in global that say they regret rushing to th9. I plan on maxing out my th8, probably even walls. If youre having trouble defending, drop down a league or two, it really doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by lijero13ss

Don't do it. Max out your TH8.

BTW what level are your golems, wizards, pekkas, and dark barracks?
GoWiPe is good at th9, i agree, but offense is only 50% of clan wars. In elite warring clans, you have to have a great defense. There is no point in rushing your TH to get more firepower if your opponent's th8 members can 3star you, thus, leaving their th9 members with more attacks on possible 2 stars on your th10s or more chances for 3stars on your th9s

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Thanks for the posts guys. Id be lying if I said that my main reason for doing is to enjoy the game more. As far as your particular question is concerned I Have one dark barrack at level two and the other is at level four. My golems are level 1, pekkas will be level three in 6 days. BK is at level 5 and Im saving DE for my first golem upgrade. Im almost half way there.

Im not worried about getting loot, I get a lot of it and Im sure I will continue to get more. Perhaps my decision will harm me in this regard a bit, but when youre boosing all four barracks for two hours 5 or 6 times per week, loot will always be abundant. I also want to get to practicing with gowipe and gowiwi and gowiwipe. Ive gotten to the point where I feel that I cannot get any better at dragon attacks, so I need a new bread and butter. I'm really excited to go TH9.

I should also add that I still have 10 days and 5 builders to continue upgrades with. And I always manage to keep all five builders busy. In fact I wish I had 6.

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Originally Posted by Suicide

I'm in the process of upgrading to TH9 early, this is what I currently have
Troops/Spells: lvl6 barb king. lvl5 - barbs, arch, wbs, giants, loons. lvl4 - gobs, lightning. lvl3 - drags, wiz, minions, rage, heal. lvl2 - hogs.
Defences: walls 98 pink, 126 purple, 1 skull. x3 lvl6 mortars, x3 lvl5 air def, x3 lvl4 wiz tower, x2 lvl2 x1 lvl3 tesla, x4 lvl8 x1 lvl9 cannons, x2 lvl7 x2 lvl8 x1 lvl9 arch tower.

Now some say max TH8 first but this is the problem if I had decided to max first I'd still be losing over 1k of my DE per raid due to those TH9's with their lvl6 giants and I can't get it back on revenge because their base has xbows as well as AQ and more defences so why am I gonna let that happen every day just to max some defences, the way I see it is go to TH9 get the AQ, lvl6 giants, camp upgrade and all the rest then let's see how much DE I lose per day. Oh but wait a sec then I'll face the same type of scenario with TH10's lol but that's just how the game is TH10 take from TH9, TH9 take from TH8 so forget about maxing defences unless your TH10 because no matter what TH you are there's always gonna be someone that will get your loot

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First, you are stupid. Good luck trying to farm as a th9 because those th7s only offer 80k gold. And, did you know about something called loot penalty? Think about it this way. People will lightning spell you until you wished you were back at th8. Have fun. Wait. You cant. You just ruined the game for yourself.

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Originally Posted by wormwood1

Thanks for the posts guys. Id be lying if I said that my main reason for doing is to enjoy the game more. As far as your particular question is concerned I Have one dark barrack at level two and the other is at level four. My golems are level 1, pekkas will be level three in 6 days. BK is at level 5 and Im saving DE for my first golem upgrade. Im almost half way there.

Im not worried about getting loot, I get a lot of it and Im sure I will continue to get more. Perhaps my decision will harm me in this regard a bit, but when youre boosing all four barracks for two hours 5 or 6 times per week, loot will always be abundant. I also want to get to practicing with gowipe and gowiwi and gowiwipe. Ive gotten to the point where I feel that I cannot get any better at dragon attacks, so I need a new bread and butter. I'm really excited to go TH9.

I should also add that I still have 10 days and 5 builders to continue upgrades with. And I always manage to keep all five builders busy. In fact I wish I had 6.

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Honestly, the first thing that 90% of th9s look for are premmies. Premmies+200k loot=100% with all resources lost and trophies down. Good luck pushing to master. Or even crystal. It wont be fun. And you will be coming crawling back to us wanting th8 back. I would just max th8. Its the better choice. Trust me. I was a premmie th7 and 8 but then learned that i needed to max town halls. PLUS, NOBODY WILL ACCEPT YOU INTO THEIR CLAN IF YOUR ARE PREMATURE. NOBODY LIKES PREMMIES REGARDLESS OF THEIR LEVELS OR XBOWS OR WHATEVER. THE FIRST THING MY CLAN LOOKS FOR IS PREMMIE OR NOT. IF YOU DONT MAX DEF, YOU CANT MAKE IT INTO GOOD CLANS. NOBODY LIKEX YOU. YOU WILL BE SOMEONE WHO WALKS IN THE STREETS. DONT BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. BE GOOD AND YOU WILL GAIN ENTRY INTO GOOD CLANS OVER TIME

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Originally Posted by nvk518

First, you are stupid. Good luck trying to farm as a th9 because those th7s only offer 80k gold. And, did you know about something called loot penalty? Think about it this way. People will lightning spell you until you wished you were back at th8. Have fun. Wait. You cant. You just ruined the game for yourself.

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Read my previous post. Im not some idiot. Im the leader of a very good war plan and I am very good at the game. But thanks for attempting to educate me. The loot penalty is not concerning to me in the slightest because within a few weeks I will have the same raiding power as an advanced TH9. Ill have 220 slots. Level six archers and barbs and four spells. Even the most advanced TH9's have the same attack power. So Ill be able to raid just as well as they. Just ruined the game? Do you think you could possibly be any more overly-pessimistic or dramatic? But thanks for the insight. Lightning spell? Why would it be easier to lighting spell my base than any other base. A developed th10 can be lightning just as easily as a premmie 9, and the 10 will get you more loot. Not real bright are ya?

To those of you have provided respectful and sensible insight, I appreciate it and lets continue the discussion. It's telling that those people who post in a respectful manner are also usually the most intelligent.

Mortars and air defenses will be totally maxed before the upgrade is complete. The three wizard towers will closely follow after the upgrade

Some of you guys are acting like Im a townhall 10 with two level three mortars and a single level two archer tower

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Originally Posted by nvk518

First, you are stupid. Good luck trying to farm as a th9 because those th7s only offer 80k gold. And, did you know about something called loot penalty? Think about it this way. People will lightning spell you until you wished you were back at th8. Have fun. Wait. You cant. You just ruined the game for yourself.

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I'm stupid yeah? lol don't you think I obviously know about the loot penalty by now so why would I want to be farming TH7's and people can lightning spell me as much as they want I don't care that makes no difference whether I'm TH8,9,10 your always gonna get lightning spelled by the lower levels so what exactly is your point

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Originally Posted by wormwood1

Exactly

Im bored. Whats "stupid" (for the poster above) is to remain bored in a game which I am playing for fun. .

What does needing to have to make millions of elixir for xbows have to do with anything? What a dumb comment. If I waited to max th8, would that make the amount of elixir I need for xbows decrease or something? As soon as I go TH9 the first upgrades will be the army camp. And I will be collector raiding TH8's with four boosted barracks and level 5 barbs and archers. And Ill get rich doing it. I make millions farming in two hours with all boosted barracks. Big deal.

Taking a year to max out? It would take a year to max out 9 whether I do some of my upgrading which could have been done at th8 at TH9 instead, its not going to change the amount of time which it ultimately takes to max out TH9. It would take the same amount of time. So your logic is illogical, at best.

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What he means is that loot is way better at town hall 8 so it will be harder to get loot at town hall 9. If you're worried about your army being stronger then why would you go to a town hall where your army won't stand up against most?

As a fellow th8 that believes that this game is boring after a while(it gets stale pretty quick) do as you please man. You are the one that has to look at your base every single day. These people might call you stupid or whatever, but it is your game. Obviously the most efficient way to play would be to get all your defenses up, walls and troops upgraded. That is all nice, but if you think you are getting bored move on bud and go ham!

Once you get to th9 you will be under leveled, oh no its the end of the world. You will have a struggle when people find your premie base, but you know what you can do with the replays? You can see the replays and decide what is weak. From that you can decide what you need to upgrade and what you should do next. You will have a challenging time, but you will have spiced up your game and you will be engaged in the game again.

Honestly there is only one rule to this game and that's clash on brother.

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Originally Posted by jaredasch1

Stupid Decision, loot is so much better at TH8

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Disagree. Loot is much easier at TH9 after you get max giants. With that and AQ, youll crush any TH8. At TH8, your offense isnt much better compared to TH7. But TH9 is way better than TH8.

TH7 and TH9 are the best THs to get loot. Im feasting on TH8s for 500k total resources every raid (giants, wizards, archers, bombers, no spells) crushing them for loot and three stars.

OP, itll be annoying while you upgrade your spell factory, lab, then L6 giants. But once thats done and you eventually get to 220 troops + 30 clan castle, youll be dining in luxury (1500 to 1900 trophy range).

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Originally Posted by sharonsym

you get AQ, lv.6 troops, lv.5 hogs for the firepower (witch will come later)
then you get more drills and 4-th storage for better production.
then you get more walls, ad, wt, tesla, at, bombs and xbows for much better defense

there is no point to stay on th8 after you got lv.5 basic troops.

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+1 for sharonsym, he convinced me to hit th9 after 14 odd days at TH8.

Max barbs
Max Archers

Then head to th9.

I had th7 point defence 1 month ago.

@ the people who say you cant farm for ♥♥♥♥ at TH9

900m GG 800 of which was farmed @TH9 says otherwise.

guys that said th9 loot worse is bad player. They think th8 is too strong, so they just can farm th7/6 and the feel pain because of the penalty :(

if you know how to raid, raiding th8 is very easy, you can fully loot the maxed one with just basic troops.

after the loot changes, th9 is where you want to grind (for average - good) player

good players can keep a attack to defences ratio above 3:1

casual players with 1:1 should never premie.

It kind of sucks to be TH9. Your loot isn't great and your defense isn't great. So you can't get much loot and you lose a lot of if you happen to come by some and need to hold it.

At TH9 I was constantly crushed by TH10s whenever I had loot. The base had no chance even with everything maxed out. Only Infernos hold back balloonions and golem based attacks properly. Or really any half decent army if the attacker is properly utilizing spells.

This was my experience for a long time as a pretty much maxed TH9. As a premi TH9... It will suck. A lot. Everyone can steal the loot you try to amass for upgrades. It'll be like christmas for TH10s and other TH9s to find your base, trust me they wont next it because they don't have loot penalty against you. They would if you were TH8. You should always do the defense upgrades after TH7 before moving up.

To OP

Have fun getting 3 stared by TH8s consistently and possible TH7s at least taking your resources.

Congrats to the OP for not maxing out th8 including walls. The only reason to max out th8 completely is ego.

Look, if you max th8 100%, you spend months upgrading rarely used troops and walls, when instead you could be getting maxed archers, barbs, giants, and loons.

Here are the great benefits of th9---- 4th storage, AQ, xbows, queen, max troops, bigger army, bigger cc, higher level defenses, second drill, higher drill levels, etc.

As for loot, barch is so much stronger with max troops and more troops. I roll up to any th8 and take whatever I want.

So much easier getting loot, especially dark. So I don't get to hang out in Silver 1 and Gold 3 any more....so what. No, actually I can do so if I want to loot the th8s farming low with junk bases.

Max splash. Max cannons. Get lvl 5 troops. Then get to th9. The people regretting going to th9 are the super premies, the ones with gold walls and level 4 troops.

Th9 is such a more enjoyable game than th8.

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Originally Posted by Multibeast

To OP

Have fun getting 3 stared by TH8s consistently and possible TH7s at least taking your resources.

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this is false warning...

TH7/8 that brag about 3 starring a th9 is attacking a premie that have golden walls and lv.1 ad / wt. TH7/8 can't do much against a premie TH9 that have 4 wt, 4 ad, 2 xbows, 4 storage.

what will happen will be opposite, you will easily crush any th8.

@OP
this is what happen to me when I decided to press the th9 upgrade button on lv.59
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1345564

and this is what happen to my mini account when I advance TH9 on Lv.75:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post2537024

Im a th 8 right now and im having fun maxing my base. I maxed my th 7 and i intend to max eight. Its not that hard of a thing to do and id rather do it now when i can still raid th 7's and get loot. Besides all i have to do is gowipe or use baloonian and i can beat most bases/get a decent amount of loot.

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Originally Posted by Rederick

Disagree. Loot is much easier at TH9 after you get max giants. With that and AQ, youll crush any TH8. At TH8, your offense isnt much better compared to TH7. But TH9 is way better than TH8.

TH7 and TH9 are the best THs to get loot. Im feasting on TH8s for 500k total resources every raid (giants, wizards, archers, bombers, no spells) crushing them for loot and three stars.

OP, itll be annoying while you upgrade your spell factory, lab, then L6 giants. But once thats done and you eventually get to 220 troops + 30 clan castle, youll be dining in luxury (1500 to 1900 trophy range).

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If you're raiding TH 8 for 500,000 then wouldn't that show you that they are the ones with all the loot? Lol

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Originally Posted by Subz325

What he means is that loot is way better at town hall 8 so it will be harder to get loot at town hall 9. If you're worried about your army being stronger then why would you go to a town hall where your army won't stand up against most?

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At 8 I'm honestly rarely attacking TH7's. I am thinking of going 9 early as well due to the benefits of AQ and stronger troops. Either way 9's are attacking you with really minimal loss as they're seeing 90%. Are people that have gone to 9 early regretting it because there are so many TH10's hitting them?

Man some of y'all farm slow if it takes a year to max th9.