let the farmers enjoy the bonus (protect the league)

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August 28th, 2014
sweet11

let the farmers enjoy the bonus (protect the league)

hi

i am farming in master as a th9
and its funny in the game how you gain less trophies and lose more
like bases 16 if you win , -30 if you lose
and you can see the 16 related to the stars . thats mean difficult to gain those trophies , but easy to lose the 30

just wow

and i like the bonus loot here and full storages bases
i raided them but lost trophies , i play lose and gain trophies
but its really difficult to maintain trophies there ,

so i just thought about something can help us to enjoy loot without thinking about trophies

i called it (protect the league)
i am ok with losing 30 trophies but the system wont take 30 trophies from me
it will take from 1/3 or 1/4 and the rest trophies recorded

example
i raided a base my trophies 2700 , lost 30 trophies
1/3 the lost trophies is 10 . 2700-10=2690 and the system somehow waiting from me the rest 20 trophies
so the system give the defender 30 trophies , take 10 trophies from me , the rest 20 trophies will take them next

if i gain trophies in the next attack lets say 10 , my trophies still 2690 , the system subtract 20-10=10
if i lost again 20 trophies , 1/3 * 20 = 6 , 2690-6=2684 , the system add the rest trophies = 10+14 =24

we can put here a limit for losing like 300 trophies , then the system will subtract from the total trophies
or we can make it reset every season and the system auto subtract the trophies from the total

the idea here to make the trophy system for farmers easier , lose like gain
because the system clearly designed for trophy pusher and we as farmers need the system help us to enjoy the game more and more.

anyone think my suggestion let people abuse the system
think again , the game is the same but i made it hard to lose dramatically and demote from your league

supercell changed the loot system and they wanted us to look for the loot raid storages
i think alot of farmers in higher league care about maintain trophies and they skip storages for that
if we make it losing less trophies it would encourage people to try and raid storages

;)
August 28th, 2014
OneAndOnlyBramble

I dont like the idea that if i mess up one raid i would have to raid again maybe 2 times before earning a single trophy.
August 28th, 2014
MrScribbler

One of the greatest things about the game is that it's easy to play and easy to understand (for the most part, I know there are plenty of problems with the AI). Your idea would completely change all that for no good reason, so it's a bad one.
August 28th, 2014
sweet11

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Originally Posted by OneAndOnlyBramble

I dont like the idea that if i mess up one raid i would have to raid again maybe 2 times before earning a single trophy.

i agree , they related winning trophies to stars , but losing them at once
my suggestion here make losing and gaining trophies the same , fair game
August 28th, 2014
Phyxios

deal with it as is.
August 28th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrScribbler

One of the greatest things about the game is that it's easy to play and easy to understand (for the most part, I know there are plenty of problems with the AI). Your idea would completely change all that for no good reason, so it's a bad one.

well , why you are ok with losing 30 trophies at once
or gaining 16 trophies , 1 star 5 , 2 stars 10 , 3 stars 16

i didnt do anything bad to the trophy system , just made a delay with the trophies losing.
August 28th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phyxios

deal with it as is.

discussion , i am not saying lets do it
just tell me what is bad here and why our current system better than my suggestion
August 28th, 2014
Jman213

So you want to be in Master just to farm there?? And you want to keep trophies but not lose 30 cups?? Your joking, right?! That is so stupid, its called farm in crystal 1 and deal with it!!
August 28th, 2014
deathklockcoc

simple reasons

Well.....the game has almost no defensive side at all so if you win in a high league its like winning the loto do that you get more cups
August 28th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jman213

So you want to be in Master just to farm there?? And you want to keep trophies but not lose 30 cups?? Your joking, right?! That is so stupid, its called farm in crystal 1 and deal with it!!

you dont understand the thread
the idea came from my farming issue , but the suggestion fix the trophy system for the best to everyone
its not about farming in crystal or in gold

why you let for example a th10 drop to silver to farm weak bases
and you dont want a th9 or a th8 go to master and farm th10s
the trophy system preventing ths lower than th10 from farming up but letting th10sto farm everywhere
why bc of the trophy system losing is more than gaining
August 28th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathklockcoc

Well.....the game has almost no defensive side at all so if you win in a high league its like winning the loto do that you get more cups

well winning isn't a problem , the problem here is losing trophies
less losing mean more raiding , more strategies , more new game experience

why people use gowipe gowiwi , that compo people try it and win
everyone copy it to win

why ??

because losing is a pain !
August 28th, 2014
DarksmasherNLDSF

The thing is, you can CHOOSE who you are attacking , you as an attacker has the advantage, and yeah the lutebonus is nice when you win but its higher up. its also a competetive game trophie pushing, cool that you like to farm that high but you pretty much are in trophypush-terretory. When you're that high you should be able to know who you can beat and who not, its not the place to mess up.
August 28th, 2014
Joshokitty

your format and grammar are pretty confusing

:rolleyes:
August 28th, 2014
Street3

I know what you mean but I don't think supercell ever meant to create "farmers" that's why the trophy system is set up for pushing trophies not dropping them!! And while I don't think farming should be stopped I also don't think it should be made easier!
August 29th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarksmasherNLDSF

The thing is, you can CHOOSE who you are attacking , you as an attacker has the advantage, and yeah the lutebonus is nice when you win but its higher up. its also a competetive game trophie pushing, cool that you like to farm that high but you pretty much are in trophypush-terretory. When you're that high you should be able to know who you can beat and who not, its not the place to mess up.

i know but still the system didn't balance the trophy losing vs gaining
you said its a trophy push terretory i disagree with you , people farm in master
and if you read in the forums about good loot farming de , master is the best league
why iam not allowed to mess up in master while th10s mess up everywhere ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshokitty

your format and grammar are pretty confusing

:rolleyes:

sorry for confusing
i would like to confuse you more with my next threads :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Street3

I know what you mean but I don't think supercell ever meant to create "farmers" that's why the trophy system is set up for pushing trophies not dropping them!! And while I don't think farming should be stopped I also don't think it should be made easier!

i agree , but farming is real and part of the game
supercell should support it or at least fix the loot problem
i would go back to farm in crystal if they fix it

:)
August 29th, 2014
magnor

Is it really THAT hard as a farmer to balance the number of 50% wins or maybe an odd th snipe in order to maintain the trophy level you enjoy farming at? Sometimes (unless your sub 200) you just have to spend all your troops and get a few wins. I think if you're unable to effectively maintain your trophies in order to farm where you like then you're farming too high. Sorry but the trophy system is fine.
August 29th, 2014
sweet11

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnor

Is it really THAT hard as a farmer to balance the number of 50% wins or maybe an odd th snipe in order to maintain the trophy level you enjoy farming at? Sometimes (unless your sub 200) you just have to spend all your troops and get a few wins. I think if you're unable to effectively maintain your trophies in order to farm where you like then you're farming too high. Sorry but the trophy system is fine.

you cant tell if everything fine until you try the new system !
imagine heroes stay the same , and i suggested the same thing supercell did in heroes update
you would come here and say everything ok , bad suggestion

i liked the heroes update , and disagree with everyone against it , and i can give anyone against it good reasons.
you cant say everything ok and your suggestion bad until you prove it for me is bad .

you said iam farming too high because you still in the box of our system
you didn't think of the new system i suggested
like saying to someone bored from people luring his heroes (just centralized them)
while the idea is supercell should make them hard to be lured and killed