Leaders can decide who to go to war

I not sure if this thread has been requested before, if yes excuse me to post again

I think leaders and co-leaders should be able to decide what members to go to war before searching. This is because:
- Not every members have much free time to go to war
- Temporarily inactive members that should not be kicked out
- Some suck at war, but they are good friends, one
- Some totally don't like clan war
- Some don't want to go to war because they have their spell factory upgraded
- ...

They are my clan members, they are forced to go to war, they don't fight. After many loses, they argued, blamed one to another. Some say no more clan war, some say yes and all I can do is to kick some out, search war then invite them back (some ignore the invitation). Clearly it's not a good walkaround. All of this makes us frustrated.

If this feature is implemented in the future, I believe that it will end a lot of troubles in my clan and others too.

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Originally Posted by anhreg

I not sure if this thread has been requested before, if yes excuse me to post again

I think leaders and co-leaders should be able to decide what members to go to war before searching. This is because:
- Not every members have much free time to go to war
- Temporarily inactive members that should not be kicked out
- Some suck at war, but they are good friends, one
- Some totally don't like clan war
- Some don't want to go to war because they have their spell factory upgraded
- ...

They are my clan members, they are forced to go to war, they don't fight. After many loses, they argued, blamed one to another. Some say no more clan war, some say yes and all I can do is to kick some out, search war then invite them back (some ignore the invitation). Clearly it's not a good walkaround. All of this makes us frustrated.

If this feature is implemented in the future, I believe that it will end a lot of troubles in my clan and others too.

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Good Idea ;););););)

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Originally Posted by anhreg

I not sure if this thread has been requested before, if yes excuse me to post again

I think leaders and co-leaders should be able to decide what members to go to war before searching. This is because:
- Not every members have much free time to go to war
- Temporarily inactive members that should not be kicked out
- Some suck at war, but they are good friends, one
- Some totally don't like clan war
- Some don't want to go to war because they have their spell factory upgraded
- ...

They are my clan members, they are forced to go to war, they don't fight. After many loses, they argued, blamed one to another. Some say no more clan war, some say yes and all I can do is to kick some out, search war then invite them back (some ignore the invitation). Clearly it's not a good walkaround. All of this makes us frustrated.

If this feature is implemented in the future, I believe that it will end a lot of troubles in my clan and others too.

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This could be very easily abused, and there are 2 much better options--individual opt-in/out and the way it is now.

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Originally Posted by themariofan

This could be very easily abused, and there are 2 much better options--individual opt-in/out and the way it is now.

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I don't think it CAN be abuse in anyway.

If the leader doesn't want you to go to war, they can ALWAYS kick you out.

If they opt you out AND you are not happy about it, you can ALWAYS quit the clan.

War is TEAMWORK. Leader is LEADER. They should be able to manage their Army in a strategic way. Making Leader choosing their line up is important in all sports. Making them not be able to choose their line up, and have to go to war with everyone in the clan is like telling a football coach to put every players he has onto the field.

TH10, max troops in a clan with TH6 and TH7. He is removed from the war by the leader or opts out himself. Donates his max troops to clan castles on the war map as well as his teammates for their war attacks. His teammates slaughter their poor TH6-TH7 opponents who don't have the advantage of max troops.

It's very easy to see how this can be exploited...

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Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o

I don't think it CAN be abuse in anyway.

If the leader doesn't want you to go to war, they can ALWAYS kick you out.

If they opt you out AND you are not happy about it, you can ALWAYS quit the clan.

War is TEAMWORK. Leader is LEADER. They should be able to manage their Army in a strategic way. Making Leader choosing their line up is important in all sports. Making them not be able to choose their line up, and have to go to war with everyone in the clan is like telling a football coach to put every players he has onto the field.

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Originally Posted by anhreg

I not sure if this thread has been requested before, if yes excuse me to post again

I think leaders and co-leaders should be able to decide what members to go to war before searching. This is because:
- Not every members have much free time to go to war
- Temporarily inactive members that should not be kicked out
- Some suck at war, but they are good friends, one
- Some totally don't like clan war
- Some don't want to go to war because they have their spell factory upgraded
- ...

They are my clan members, they are forced to go to war, they don't fight. After many loses, they argued, blamed one to another. Some say no more clan war, some say yes and all I can do is to kick some out, search war then invite them back (some ignore the invitation). Clearly it's not a good walkaround. All of this makes us frustrated.

If this feature is implemented in the future, I believe that it will end a lot of troubles in my clan and others too.

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A coach chooses his players. So do leaders. They should have right to choose who stand beside them in battle fields.

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Originally Posted by Jietoh

TH10, max troops in a clan with TH6 and TH7. He is removed from the war by the leader or opts out himself. Donates his max troops to clan castles on the war map as well as his teammates for their war attacks. His teammates slaughter their poor TH6-TH7 opponents who don't have the advantage of max troops.

It's very easy to see how this can be exploited...

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It's just... wrong.

1. You CAN'T donate to war map if you are not in War list.
2. He can quit the clan. They start the war and he can rejoin and donate for everyone in the clan for the attack. NOTHING stops him from doing it now.

Please tell me again how the opt out can be exploited?

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Originally Posted by anhreg

I not sure if this thread has been requested before, if yes excuse me to post again

I think leaders and co-leaders should be able to decide what members to go to war before searching. This is because:
- Not every members have much free time to go to war
- Temporarily inactive members that should not be kicked out
- Some suck at war, but they are good friends, one
- Some totally don't like clan war
- Some don't want to go to war because they have their spell factory upgraded
- ...

They are my clan members, they are forced to go to war, they don't fight. After many loses, they argued, blamed one to another. Some say no more clan war, some say yes and all I can do is to kick some out, search war then invite them back (some ignore the invitation). Clearly it's not a good walkaround. All of this makes us frustrated.

If this feature is implemented in the future, I believe that it will end a lot of troubles in my clan and others too.

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I agree, we need this!

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Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o

It's just... wrong.

1. You CAN'T donate to war map if you are not in War list.
2. He can quit the clan. They start the war and he can rejoin and donate for everyone in the clan for the attack. NOTHING stops him from doing it now.

Please tell me again how the opt out can be exploited?

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A leader (particularly a troll co) could just pick a small group of friends or a few low levels to skew the average in their favor.

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Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o

I don't think it CAN be abuse in anyway.

If the leader doesn't want you to go to war, they can ALWAYS kick you out.

If they opt you out AND you are not happy about it, you can ALWAYS quit the clan.

War is TEAMWORK. Leader is LEADER. They should be able to manage their Army in a strategic way. Making Leader choosing their line up is important in all sports. Making them not be able to choose their line up, and have to go to war with everyone in the clan is like telling a football coach to put every players he has onto the field.

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Originally Posted by themariofan

A leader (particularly a troll co) could just pick a small group of friends or a few low levels to skew the average in their favor.

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If you want to war and he doesn't let you, would you stay in his clan? No, you will quit. Would he opt you out if he know you will quit and he want you in his clan? No, he would not.

If you are in his clan and he doesn't want you to war, what can he do? Yes, he can kick you out. What can you do? Find another clan.

If you want to skew the average in their favor, what can you do? Make a bunch of TH3. Gems up (250 gems) and bring it to your clan. What else can you do? Kick people out.

Conclusion: Anything- bad/good- that opt out can do, people can currently do it with kicking people out. Opt out just make it more convenient. However, the usefulness of opt-out is out weight. People doesn't have to make another clan just for war. Friends can stay in the same clan. You don't have to kick casual player out every time you start a war. People with high trophy who doesn't want to war doesn't have to war. People who has important update (spell, for example) doesn't have to war, etc.
Kicking people effects their donation number. Sometime there are races. Sometime clan having donation rules that members has to follow, etc.

And one more things: Please don't argue that it's more convenience so people would skew the war in their favor more. If people want to ♥♥♥♥♥, they would go through a great length to ♥♥♥♥♥. Plus, for example, a bunch of th10 using TH3 to skew the average. You are a TH8 in the clan and you want to war, but they won't let you. Would you stay in that clan? Really doubt it :)