Trolling needs conseuqnces!!!

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Originally Posted by KingofClash9923

I still don't really see why this is needed? It would be more annoying than useful to me.

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To prevent one person from ruining an entire 48 hours worth of a war, by prematurely leaving a clan with the intent of screwing the clan out of attacks and potentially ending in a loss. At the same time, appeasing those who like to clan hop, with good intentions (I.E. family members and friends in other clans).

Whats stopping me from creating 5 accounts, going into a clan with the intent of leaving right after the war starts, and screwing that clan out of 10 attacks? I've seen people do it with 2-3 accounts, I'm just using 5 as an example right now.

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Originally Posted by CRFclan

Greetings everyone,

I've been dealing with a serious issue plaguing our clan and community the past few months. My clan and I have been dealing with trolls who will join our clan, they will wait until we que for a clan war, then leave an hour before it starts. Sadly there is no way to weed them out, because they act like any normal player would, donations, casual friendly talk, and it ultimately causing us to lose viable attacks and potentially the entire war.

This is unacceptable, a timer to prevent them from joining another war is NOT enough. There should be consequences for clan hopping and trolling clans out of attacks in wars. From start to finish, a clan war takes up 48 hours, why is it fair that one person can ruin it for everyone and walk away unscathed?

My intention is not to seclude my clan, but if I have to, I guess I'll just have to keep it within friends and family. Every time we try to branch out, we get burned. Because hey, there aren't any consequences for joining a clan, leaving a clan, joining a clan, leaving a clan.... over and over.

My suggestion would be to add a timer that starts when one joins a clan and if they prematurely leave before the timer finishes, they won't be able to join another clan until the timer is complete. Now I understand if you just joined a clan and it turns out to be a bad situation, it happens. That's where my next idea comes into play, you should have a trial period of a certain amount of time so you can leave without consequences.

Obviously if you get kicked, nothing you can do about that. That would disable any current timer that would've been set upon the player if they had left on their own.

Either way, I've raised awareness with this post and I hope a Supercell enthusiast reads this. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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Ive experienced this and I find it frustrating too. However when a hopper joins your clan I thought they arent eligible for a clan war until the clan war they left previously is over.
Your suggestion could work so I support it.

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Originally Posted by Sokitani

Ive experienced this and I find it frustrating too. However when a hopper joins your clan I thought they arent eligible for a clan war until the clan war they left previously is over.
Your suggestion could work so I support it.

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You are correct, they aren't eligible if they have already started one with their previous clan.

But a random hopper, who is eligible and with the intent of leaving as soon as you que, should be met with a similar if not worse consequence.

Thanks for the support!

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Originally Posted by CRFclan

To prevent one person from ruining an entire 48 hours worth of a war, by prematurely leaving a clan with the intent of screwing the clan out of attacks and potentially ending in a loss. At the same time, appeasing those who like to clan hop, with good intentions (I.E. family members and friends in other clans).

Whats stopping me from creating 5 accounts, going into a clan with the intent of leaving right after the war starts, and screwing that clan out of 10 attacks? I've seen people do it with 2-3 accounts, I'm just using 5 as an example right now.

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I still think its a problem that not enough people deal with to put this in. Make sure u have trusted people before u start a war and a hint look at there total war stars in the achievements it helps to know if someone will attack.

I have similar issues, not so much around war but just hoppers in general.
How about this :
Given a player is a member of a clan When the player leaves the clan Then the player is added to every clan members defense log and the revenge button is enabled.

Let the clan decide their fate.

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Originally Posted by KingofClash9923

I still think its a problem that not enough people deal with to put this in. Make sure u have trusted people before u start a war and a hint look at there total war stars in the achievements it helps to know if someone will attack.

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That's a wonderful tip, I'll start using it as a pre-check on new members. Although, it's near impossible to check ages and intents.

I will say it's hard to trust random people, even with a high number in win achievements. Just checked the guy who recently burned us, not three hours ago, his were pretty high. Before that, we had a member with 3 accounts join us, burned us really hard the previous war. It just seems too consistent to be just a minor problem and I'm sure a lot of clans experience it on a daily basis.

I'm going to respectfully agree, yet disagree with you on that portion of it. I believe it's still a viable issue going on and needs to be looked at. Even if its not to my specific suggestions, it's an issue none the less.

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Originally Posted by cobia74

I have similar issues, not so much around war but just hoppers in general.
How about this :
Given a player is a member of a clan When the player leaves the clan Then the player is added to every clan members defense log and the revenge button is enabled.

Let the clan decide their fate.

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Oh, your just teasing me now at this point haha :)

If you ran for President, I'd vote for you!

It would be a good idea, only I would add a safe zone, for linked clans...

An example being:

If Player A is currently in Clan 1, but has family and friends in Clan 2, he could link his clans together so he could freely cross between clans, without being affected by a timer or another consequence that would be implemented. Someone brought that up earlier and it makes a lot of sense, especially with the people that have good intentions when they hop back and forth.

That way it punishes the bad players, while the good players play in solitude.

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Originally Posted by CRFclan

That's a wonderful tip, I'll start using it as a pre-check on new members. Although, it's near impossible to check ages and intents.

I will say it's hard to trust random people, even with a high number in win achievements. Just checked the guy who recently burned us, not three hours ago, his were pretty high. Before that, we had a member with 3 accounts join us, burned us really hard the previous war. It just seems too consistent to be just a minor problem and I'm sure a lot of clans experience it on a daily basis.

I'm going to respectfully agree, yet disagree with you on that portion of it. I believe it's still a viable issue going on and needs to be looked at. Even if its not to my specific suggestions, it's an issue none the less.

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Honestly I've never had a problem with this but we only let people with 100+ war stars join us and it always seems to work out i think its just about being smart with your members IMO.

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Originally Posted by KingofClash9923

Honestly I've never had a problem with this but we only let people with 100+ war stars join us and it always seems to work out i think its just about being smart with your members IMO.

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I can definitely see where that would work out at the higher levels, we aren't quite to that point where 100+ level members would join. Normally, we aim for 60-85, because that's about where everyone is at currently.

Not going to mention the game's name, but another game had issues with trolls and delt with it nicely. The PC version was mainly an adult community, with some kids, and didn't have any issues with friendly fire. The console version of that same game, had to remove the friendly fire option, due to trolls and immaturity.

Clash of Clans is similar in that aspect, because of the different playing fields. You have the immature trolls floating around the lower and middle levels. Whereas when you get higher towards the top, you see a lot less of that. Supercell needs to step up and clean the toxic waste out of their lower and middle levels.

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Originally Posted by CRFclan

I can definitely see where that would work out at the higher levels, we aren't quite to that point where 100+ level members would join. Normally, we aim for 60-85, because that's about where everyone is at currently.

Not going to mention the game's name, but another game had issues with trolls and delt with it nicely. The PC version was mainly an adult community, with some kids, and didn't have any issues with friendly fire. The console version of that same game, had to remove the friendly fire option, due to trolls and immaturity.

Clash of Clans is similar in that aspect, because of the different playing fields. You have the immature trolls floating around the lower and middle levels. Whereas when you get higher towards the top, you see a lot less of that. Supercell needs to step up and clean the toxic waste out of their lower and middle levels.

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Okay can this whole penalty thing be removed at lvl 70 or something then?