I'm about to build my first dark barracks and I'm particularly interested on hog riders. Are they any good and would they be more effective to send straight in with a group of raged giants or to use them to flank along side archers
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I'm about to build my first dark barracks and I'm particularly interested on hog riders. Are they any good and would they be more effective to send straight in with a group of raged giants or to use them to flank along side archers
I have been attacked with minions a few times but never with hog riders or valkyries. I also rarely see the latter two in villages. Have these been a huge flop?
I've also been attacked by minions, they seem ok. I really want to build Valkyries but I can't since I'm th7. I hear they are great at dispensing ground cc troops. But hog riders seem really good on paper. Nearly same defense as giants, and about twice the damage output and speed. I don't see why they wouldn't be popularQuote:
Originally Posted by Katipo
Valk is AWESOME! Minions are decent. Hog riders are useless.
Well said, get the hog riders because you have to on the road to valks.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinser
I've spend round 2500'ich DE on hog riders this saturday :D
Just to try them out.
I had like 4-6 on each raid.
And one thing is sure.
You need to clear the buildings outside the walls before launching them!
Otherwise what's the point?
But after that they did a wonderfull job getting defences and resources that was hard to get otherwise.
Specially on very segmented defences :cool:
I would use them again!
I love Valks but they take too long to train so I don't often use them. I use minions with my all-air army which I use from time to time to break away from the monotony of my barb-arch combo. I think I can find some use for Mr Ts but I'll wait till I've leveled them up to try them out again because they die fast.
I used to use valkarie to dispose of CC troops but then I realized that she is too expensive for her purpose so I stopped using her.
Hog riders absolutely SUCK! They might be better when upgraded but that will take 2 months and 140k DE.
However I think they may be useful with the Golem. While the defense is shooting at Golem send in the hog rider to jump over the wall to destroy it... but why? When you could just use archers to shoot the defense down while they shoot at Golem... why not just use a wall breaker so that all your troops can progress into the base...
So Again I will state that the hog rider SUCKS and is useless!
I used a few hog riders when I unlocked them and haven't used one since. I think the other troops do the job better and more efficiently.
I love and use lev 2 minions! Dropped behind dragons the work great in an air attack . Drags eat the air bombs and minions, while weak in health inflict pretty good damage. I have a few archers In the attack to take out an air defense if exposed. I may try HR with a ground attack. Good tip on disposing of exterior building before deploying Mr. T!
Lev one mr t is terrible ... the attack strength is too weak for taking up six spaces. But even lev two may be useful.
Valkrie is ok but not a game changer.
Hogriders need more DPS.
Hog Rider lv1 will be too weak to justify. And his behavior will be too hard to grasp by using them only a few times.
I believe that, at lv3 and above, he will be awesome to attack pocket base.
Minion is bad because of red Air Bomb. Use Dragon to clear the way is good tactics but training time become too much for regular troops.
Yeah, Mr. Ts are too weak when they're level one since damage output doesn't really outweight it's capacity. But once you level them up, placing them in small groups can decimate things like they should be if you don't mind the cost and training time to create a group.
They are awesome if you have the DE !!
Minions- Excellent
Hog Riders: Good
Valkaryes: Terrible
See the pattern............
Dark Troops are pretty useless and a total waste of dark elixir not to mention they take a lot of space in your army camps. In my opinion, Dark Elixit is best spent on upgrading Heroes.
hogs have nearly as much health as giants, and 3 times the attack. theyre faster and they can leap walls. ive nearly got them at lv 4 and theyre great! i have no idea y ppl r saying theyre rubbish. look that the stats!
honestly, i think they are worth it. They jump over walls and are very good for a quick, fast clearing. although, they are better in crystal league+ but they are still worth it. Get hogs fast. Good choice.:cool::cool::cool:
This thread is from April......
Funny to see how opinions on hogs have changed. Now people design whole based just to combat them.
Depends, they are good at level 3 and up, before that they just suck, alot, like alot alot. I would wait cause they are expensive.
In April hogs didn't have a favorite target
i think hogs are great, the only problem is that they cost a lot, before i used like 20 lvl 1 hogs and i usually 3 starred some slightly premature town hall 10s. I wouldnt advise hogs if you are saving up for something
They worth it right now for sure. If the base isn't designed for specifically hogs a noob can take down a max lvl 9 with maxed hogs easily. There's a lvl 90 in the top 100 using hogs.
Holy Thread reviving batman! Hogs didn't have a favorite target when they were released. Guys, check the expiration dates on threads before you revive them.
Hogs are awesome. Use them en masse with heal spells or with a few healers. Avoid bases with inferno towers and obvious trap lures.
Dude. They look like Mr.T. Nuff said
Lol This. 10 charQuote:
Originally Posted by Prometheusgenius
I don't know what all the negative comments were all about but hogs are beast. These guys can destroy maxed th 9 bases by themselves! Use hogs in big groups ( 30-40) bring high leveled heal spells (4+). Watch PlayClashOfClans hog raids there awesome. He even took out a th 10 with his 41 hogs!
I have level 5 hog riders, which is obviously a different story, and I love to use them especially on hard bases I wouldn't be able to attack using regular troops. Hog riders have become very popular in clash of clans and I would suggest using themQuote:
Originally Posted by Brando
Actually, Hog rider rushes dominate bases at high levels. They are useless at low lvls though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinser
Hog riders are worth it when they are level 4+
Hogs are a great troop but are expensive.
They can take out really good bases with a couple of healing spells. Assuming the base is loaded with resources they are well worth it
They are amazing for clan wars. Just watch Quantum Webs YouTube videos.
They are definitely better at lvl 3 up.
Hog riders are amazing I can 3 star most th 9's with them. They will be nerfed soon though I think so may want to hold off on upgrading them as they may become worthless
Hog riders absolutely tear apart bases if used correctly, with well-timed spells. One of my clan mates uses them with wizards, a strategy we've come to term "pork magic" lol
Hogs are a great stratgy. I roll with a lightning spell for the cc troops, 2 heal spells and a rage spell. hog riders are great because they do loads of damage with a little more health than a wizard. If hogs are leveled up then they become even more op. Inconclusion hogs are basically the new witches.
People talking about hogs before they targeted defenses and saying valkryes r great. Strange
Look at the date before you post... Huge Necro.
Get your hogs NOW and start upgrading them. They r soooo OP EASY 3 stars every time but make sure to not just use like 3 use 20+ and ull wipe out EVERY base
Once you get to th9/10 and have maxed hogs they are very useful if you learn how to use them
/edit dont listen to Dylan because there are A LOT of bases and A LOT of ways to mess up with hogs if you arent careful. If you get good with them when they are maxed then yes will be able to beat a lot of bases
Exactly! Lvl 5 hogs with lvl 5 or lvl 6 healing spells can pretty much wipe out any base besides bases with multi-infernos.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrH
I am a th8... hogs are the only troop that gets me 3 star on a th9 or th10 without inferno (within 3 mins... with cc and heros) .... giant archers minions are for support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brando
I have been raiding with hogs from lvl1:
TH7/Hogs lvl1/heal spell lvl4 :: TH8 can be 3 starred
TH7/Hogs Lvl2/heal spell lvl4 :: TH8 can be 3 starred and you can now start 2 starring TH9
TH8/Hogs Lvl2/heal spell lvl5 :: welcome to 3 starting th9s sometimes.
with ... higher lvl hogs number of hogs needed decrease... so that gives u better luring and killing army.
At TH8/Hogs Lvl4/Heal spell Lvl5 and & Rage Lvl5 you can start 2 starring single inferno th10.
best of luck.
Use Hogs when they're level 2 :)
Ok. U can not usa hog riders are not good. just 2 weeks ago i got to 3852 with lvl 4 hogs. Not even maxed. They do take skill and patience to learn how to use them. But when u get it they are the most fun troop to use out there
Use a tactic I call Howing. Consists of 32 hogs lvl 2, 10 wizards lvl 5 and a lvl 5 king.
I drop the hogs in 2 column spread where they can get wiztowers and mortarsmthe fasted. Depending on def lelev, I drop a heal spell.
Then I drop wizards in the rear for cleanup and then drop my king once a path is clear for core. Rage as soon as king makes it to the center.
Works like a charm, haven't lots yet.
Costs a lot of DE, but I had 20k to burn and could use regular elexer more. Can take out 80% upgraed Th8 and 60% upgraded th9.
I'm probably at the crossroads of TH7 . I have LV4 giants and with healers , they do good damage to defenses along with dragons and barb-arch. My question is whethr i should upgrade DB to Lv 2 to get Hog Riders ? Are Hog riders worthy enough to replace Giants from the armada ? Thnx
Minions -support/cleaners
Hog Riders -useful on lvl3+
Valkyries - defense on cw th6 below
for th8 and 9 yes
and lol, hogs take no skill
Hogs at th7 suck, but once they hit lvl 4 they're awesome. Trust me, I'm about to get them to 5, and I've 3 starred th9's with just lvl 4
Hi. Along time I've used and tested all troops including hogs, I'd answer to your main question saying it depends on if you know how to use them well and you pick the right bases. On low levels I found them useless, except for gaining experience on their use, "knowing the timing" and improving it. Only in lv5 I found them very useful, but notice, only if you use them against the "right base", which would be, that base when U see no spaces for double giant bombs between defenses, or that base that due to its defense placements, offers you a discrete good path for your hog riders. If you do use them, remember luring clan castle first, some CC troops can ruine your attack. Remember also carrying healing spells, and drop them when your hogs are holding vs the hardest or inmediately after a single giant bomb has killed them. Do not heal them after a double giant bomb: they are dead (you were supposed NOT to attack this base, if it had double giant bomb spaces that well placed). There was a time when hogs were unstoppable, then the damage on giant bombs raised and people noticed that if they place two of them between defenses it was enough to ruine such an attack. Hope it helps answering your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brando
Hogs are most defenitly worth it. Th7,8,9, and 10s can all be three starred with hogs, but they require skill. You can't just spam them. You have to kill the CC (and queen for 9,10s) and make sure they don't path to DGBs. Golems, Giants, valks, and loons can all be used to help you avoid bombs.
A good (legit) hogger is almost impossible to stop.
Th7-8 any lvl hog will work for 3 stars th9 you must have maxed hogs
Town Hall 8's with lvl 4 hogs are the only chance of 3 starring a decent th9. Same for a th7 against th8, but theres also dragons
HOG RIDERS ARE WORTH IT
They were nerfed........... many people saw this and stopped using DGBs......... easy 3 star with hogs
Asked & answered two years ago.