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I would like it if the amount of elixer or dark elixer spent on current troops was displayed during an attack. I feel it would help me make more tactical de isions for risk and reward when attacking.i do the math myself now but when experimenting with a variety of troops its difficult to keep straight or remember when I have to produce troops then attack hours later.
Ruled out. Read the sticky.
It's ruled out, however, there are many third party clash calculator if you want to give any of them a try it can help you out.
Man I am in your camp on this one. This was my very first suggestion on this forum. I would like it for the ease of knowing what my army costs before I attack, but I am more interested in this feature being added so it possibly thwarts all the economics geniuses out there that come at me with an army and spells that cost them somewhere between 150k and 175k and they rob me of about 190k elixer and 30k gold. That person spent at least an hour, maybe several, prepping that army, and nets somewhere in the range of 20k to 60k elixer, maybe some gold if they were lucky at the time, and almost never any DE. I don't think some people understand that just because the game shows you that you stole 225k elixer after the attack that you actually NET that much when comparing it to the amount one had to spend to steal it. I suppose some people could really just have a hankering for destruction and that is fine...it is a video game, after all. But I feel like the more probable scenario is that people just aren't that bright and feel very accomplished after training 5 dragons, 10 wizards, 2 healers, and some giants to net actually very small amounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by trubblecleff
Did you read the first two replies? It ruled out=Doesn't matter how much people support it, it ain't happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
I did read them. The suggestion being ruled out doesn't make me like it less. I still support the idea even though I know it isn't going to happen. I don't understand why that is offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick2025
There's just no purpose in posting a long reply to a thread that is completely ruled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
No one is making you read it. Stop nit picking and looking for reasons to be negative on the internet is a better solution to most of the issues on the forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenn
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Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
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Originally Posted by Brenn
he does have a point tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
I wouldn't do it, but if some ppl want to waste their time, I won't complain.
Brenn, like many others join the forum regularly, not just when he has an idea. He likes to find people's original ideas and join in discussions about them. How many pages do you look at in this forum before you stop? Generally, I look at about three.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
It is frustrating finding good ideas that have been pushed to page five or six because the first page is full of posts on ideas already ruled out, made by people who don't read the stickies.
So please excuse his "nit picking" if that's what you want to call it.
They discovered this thing called addition long ago. You are dealing with very small numbers here and could use your head and addition to "do simple math".
I vote not needed on this one.
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Originally Posted by littleme
Come on, guys... This is basic Math.. a 2nd grader can do it!
Lazy Much?
I understand that it can be a minor inconvenience for those that spend all day trolling the forums. However, your reasoning isn't all there. If one knows that the post is about something they consider useless, and they chose to open it and read ALL of the comments (likely trying to make some rude, ego-boosting comment), no matter how long they are, that person has no right to whine about the time they wasted doing so. That is asinine and I refuse to apologize because people try to feign the victim of ruled out and repetitive posts when what is really happening is they are getting their "jollies" out of posting rude comments that makes them feel smart and superior. Please excuse me for not excusing the silly and completely transparent veil that he was trying to hide behind. Grow up and STOP with the negativity on the forums. It is just as easy to ignore a post completely rather than spend any time at all making an equally pointless post about how pointless the involved post is. Do you guys not feel completely hypocritical and stupid when doing so? Just shut up and move on if you don't want to be a part of a conversation. I liked the idea and wanted to converse with another player who liked the idea. Last I checked, that is what a forum is for. Not for nerds with godawful social skills to snipe at each other in order to bolster their dwindling self-confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnor
So when you look at this behavior, it doesn't occur to you that perhaps people aren't quite as dumb as you think? That instead, perhaps you're missing something? Elixir that is not spent is often completely wasted, as in they have full storages or no more elixir upgrades and thus it doesn't matter. Many people build powerful armies overnight while they sleep and use them in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
These people are fully aware of the costs of their troops. They don't care about the elixir "loss" because they have no other use for the elixir. I often do this myself, and pretty much raid the first juicy or perhaps interesting base that comes up to break my shield and get another.
So let me get this straight. You call folks who raid you at a loss "economics geniuses", then you post later about "growing up" "stopping the negativity" "feeling completely hypocritical and stupid" "and godawful social skills". Ok, gotcha. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
Furthermore, the problem with ruled out ideas isn't the waste of people's time. It's that the constant posting of them drowns out new, original, and perhaps well thought out good ideas. If those ideas get pushed down to page 6 or whatever because of all the posts about donating resources, gem mines, or other nonsense, very very few people see them.
Talking about the downside, lack of justification and unpopularity of an idea is at least as important as discussing the upside, reasons and popularity of the idea. Like you said, this is a forum. You should expect people to disagree with you even if you have a good idea. This idea happens to be one that is not very good and repeated semi-frequently.Quote:
Originally Posted by conradlovejoy
conradlovejoy, after reading dahimi's reply I hope you understand the overall situation a bit better. It's about as good an explanation as you will get; it's logical, reasonable, and fair.
I do understand his reasoning. I mentioned it in my original comment. I also still believe that the more likely scenario is a good deal of those attacks were ignorant of the fact that the net gain was hardly worth the effort and cost. A lot of people playing are little kids. A good economics lesson might not hurt. I'm also not actually bitter when someone comes at me with what I consider to be a war-style army. I don't personally do it often, but like I said...this is a video game. You can play it however you want. Although I have referenced those attackers as "economics geniuses" in the past, taking a jab at a hypothetical person is a little different than climbing down someones throat on their own thread where they can read it and take personal offense (especially if that person was truly ignorant and not malicious). While I do get the point that I am also sounding hypocritical, I don't think some people's level of forum banter and mine are on the same page, much less in the same library...and I admit it gets the best of me and causes my fangs to come out a bit. I'm afraid I've let my disdain for such behavior get the better of me. I apologize for that.
Yep. This is a forum. Where one should expect to see a ton of people talking about the same thing. Agreeing, disagreeing, expressing neutrality. That is great. However, the irony of the constant battle of whining and bickering about how horrible repetitive posts are is tiresome. I enjoy reading through threads in which people politely disagree or in which ONE person informs the user that the idea has been ruled out or is a repetitive post. Then you find the angry kid with a superiority complex who is seemingly trying to make the thread creator cry and go hang himself...which is perplexing at best. After a few visits to the forum, one can easily pick out the common perpetrators by name, and begin to see a silly pattern of nonsense, flip-flopping ideals, horribly constructed (sometimes unnecessarily verbose) statements with little backbone or tie to the actual issue, and just unnecessary meanness. I don't know how or why I somehow decided to pretend to be the robin hood of this forum...I don't necessarily want to be. I just want to read and converse without having to wonder who is trying to make me feel bad about myself when I come back wondering if the conversation continued regarding something on topic rather than how stupid I am for talking about it....or if some new kid posted something about donating gems and 74 people have to tell him that the idea is ruled out...granted 72 of them will do it frankly or even sincerely, but then, as has come to be expected, angry kid throws in his zinger somewhere in the middle after 30 people have already said the same thing without being a jerk. Please continue to disagree with people. Just don't fly through the forum looking for opportunities to yell at someone so you can feel better about yourself. I will never understand why that is so hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceageg
...and I'm not against people wanting posts with repetitive or ruled out ideas reduced and ultimately diminished. I get your points..they are great points...just leave it up to the moderators to handle if you can't do it without being a cretin...
Technically speaking, this thread should have been deleted based on the rules and no one should be having to read it... :cool: