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Hi, i´m a TH 8 and i recently attacked a TH 9 ..i did not make even 1 star..i used 34 hogs lvl 4, 1 dragon lvl 3, 10 archers lvl 5, 3 healing spells lvl 4..i took care cc troops, i did not found giant bombs..the hogs were good under the healing spell but when the healing spells got finished, they were killed like flies..i dont know what happened, they are useless now?
Here is the base
http://i.imgur.com/ZMVHYA5.jpg
sorry for my bad english by the way haha
Maybe you could put a print of the last seconds of the attack? So we could imagine how the attack went?
Personally I doubt you couldn't reach 50% with that composition and against that base. He doesn't seem to have inside the base more than one space of 2x2(giant bomb) so there is no real excuse for the hogs to die that easily.
I am using 28 hogs (lvl 5), 72 arhcers (lvl 5) and 4 wall breakers (lvl 5) to attack (+4 healing spells lvl 4). I am sure I could do at least 50% to the base you showed with the composition you had, so if you have any way of showing the replay or at least the image of the last seconds of the attack that would be great.
Personally I take care of the clan castle first, then I go with the hog riders and clear out the defences as much as possible. Then I go with the wall breakers and jump in the base with my archers and my heroes.
I use some wallbreakers to make the job easier for the heros, because if I don't make an entrance for them, they will just go around the base and clear the outside buildings, instead of going inside and try to take down that town hall (earn at least the second star, if not all 3).
Hope I helped and I am looking forward to seeing perhaps an image of the last seconds of the attack.
Your mistake is using L4 hogs on a town hall 1 level above you.
They simply don't have enough health to last against x-bows, archer queen and 4 wiz towers. And you only have 3 spells on top of that.
Hogs are better used at L5 and on TH7s or TH8s.
Ok, i will upload a replay..i think i attacked well but i dont knowQuote:
Originally Posted by devil9394
mm..probably bro, i thought i had a chance hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by junyab
i believe the xbows are up and there is no AQ. I have seen lvl 4 work in this same manner, I do prefer lvl 5 wiz as apposed to a dragon as a clean up crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by junyab
Off topic from the OP's attack issue, hogs are far from useless. In my clan'a last war I came close to 3 starring a TH 10 with hogs. The base I attacked was no preemie (had 2 lvl 2 ITs, high level all other defenses) I chose hogs because there were no holes inside for bombs and it had an exterior AQ to kill off.
Also, hogs have always been and still are useful for luring out CC troops.
Outside of war, I farm in C1 and use 6 hogs as a part of my standard farming comp.
Just giving examples of how they are still useful : )
Here is the replay..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-F...iK_9Pwh1SpPmHA
Yep, not having a 4th healing spell along with central royalty and lvl 6 wiz towers make that base a little more difficult. Level 5 hogs with the same number of healing spells wouldn't have made much of a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by FredoTheMaste
Hammer
Oh, and to answer the original question about hogs being useless... definitely not. But don't expect them to carry you to a 1-2 star win on a TH of higher level - royalty placement, especially the queen, could the be the difference between getting stars and going home empty handed.
Hammer
I was just going to add that the queen seemed to do a number on them. Ive had clunkers as well. Our attacks are assigned by rank, so we cant choose the first one. Because of this, i dont typically use hogs for most of my first attacks. Some of my clan still uses them effectively though.
You need more spells... 3 healing spell is not enough to raid TH9 because there's a lot more defenses and building to clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by FredoTheMaste
Actually, 4 healing spells with lv3 hogs could 3 stars a TH9.
It seems like that guy's technique against hog riders is to kill them all using the heroes while they play in the middle of the base.
Anyway I would suggest that you cut at least 4 of those hog riders and choose archers instead of those 4, because you don't have many troops to take care of the rest of the buildings (assuming the hogs do succeed to destroy all the defences). With that composition even if you did manage to destroy all the defences I doubt you could get 3 stars in time.
First, I noticed was the struggle to defeat the clan castle troops, you definitely need more archers in the composition.
Second, I don't think going from those 2 sides of the base was the best idea. Like I said in my previous comment with what I would have done.. is to go from the bottom left side and maybe from left too with hog riders, clear the defences then use some wall breakers and with some archers and heroes you've taken his town hall. With such a strategy you could get at least 2 stars (50% and town hall) and if the hogs do manage to clear all the defences, then the third star is all yours.
Again, jumping with so many hogs and not enough other troops is not a good idea, because from any attack I would say max 10 hogs would survive? Talking about attacks aginst considerable bases. Well 10 hog riders won't have enough time in 3 minutes to clear out all the buildings, even if they are helped by a dragon.
Personally, the composition I choose to attack with is 28 hogs (lvl 5), 72 archers (lvl 5) and 4 wb (lvl 5), 4 healing spells (lvl 4) plus the two heroes and the clan castle I defeat almost all my opponents from clan wars which are pretty much in my level range (total of 220 troops).
Even if you attack with hogs, always have a plan b consisting in some troops which do have a chance in taking down the town hall.
Hogs are still very strong if used correctly and if used on the right base.
It's against ToS to play on a PC besides it's difficult to deploy
Thanks bros, now i have a better idea about how to use them. The thing is that i attack that base beacause i was the only one who can made something against that guy. This clan war was clearly unequal..Thanks again for your support!! :D
I attacked from my phone..i used ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to record the vidQuote:
Originally Posted by GoWiWi
Well if it's that blue something then no you're not allowed to use it. Third Party programs aren't allowed. Anyway end of discussion as its against forum rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by FredoTheMaste
Trouble with Hog raids nowadays when you win, you win big....but when you get trapped by Giant Bombs, you lose big time too.
Anyway, I watched your replay, you suffer from not enough guidance on how to do a hog raid.
Most new hog raiders also suffer from it.
Problem I see is you rely on way too many Hogs...26~~28 should be OK....if you are a TH9...then you can even go 30.
If you go for too many Hogs...you lose another set of important troops...that is Wizards, 1 or 2 Giants, some archers and barbs too...and more wizards in the CC. Those were no existent in your attack...those troops should be accompanying the Hogs to the middle of the core to kill the Heroes. That Wizards is very important to provide firepower and clear up structures.
Hogs getting chased by one Hero is considered acceptable....but 2 Heroes? You are over estimating your Hogs. As some of the members said, given that situation. even lvl5 hogs wont make much of a difference.
Advice: Hog raid doesn't mean USE ALL HOGS....Change a bit your combination of Troops....example 26 Hogs, 2 Giants, 6 Wiz and a few barbs and Archers, and not forgetting your King and CC troops (preferably Wizards inside). And attack only TH8....or an easy TH9
Good Luck
There's no way you can raid a decent th9, which he's is, as a th8. Hogs aren't useless, but that doesn't mean they can carry you to destroy townhalls u shouldn't be fighting. Hogs are a three star army or a one star army most of the time.
I say your mistake was attacking such a high level player that was 1 TH lvl above you.
Try pick on someone your own size
Exactly. Biting off more than they can chew.Quote:
Originally Posted by junyab