Clan War Opt-In

Our clan is generally active, but in some recent clan wars we have noticed spikes of inactivity. This sparked an idea to create a second clan specifically for participating in clan wars. Members of the primary clan could leave and join the war clan resulting in a near 100% participation rate.

The obvious issues:

• Our clan is invite-only, thus the members participating in the war would need to be accepted by someone who remained behind in the Primary clan
• Stats!! The stats for our clan would now exist solely in a clan which for all intensive purposes could have as few as 2-3 members at any given moment.

Now, the above information has almost nothing to do with the actual idea, except that it was the seed from which the true idea for a feature request was germinated.

The Idea:

Started as they always do...

... Wouldn't it be great if every time a clan war was initiated, members would need to opt-in to participate?

Your Concerns:

But sir, the match is decided prior to preparation day... What if one clan gets a low opt-in and the battle becomes unbalanced?

• Question for you... why do we have 24 hours to scout our competition? I honestly scope out every base, plan my first and possibly second attack, and prepare my troops all in the matter of 2 hours (max).

The Proposal:

Follow along with me if you will:

1. Leader/Co-Leader decides they feel like having a war
2. Said L/CL initiates the war
3. The clocks start! The usual 24 hours until war, with a twist:
   
   • The first clock is 16 hours, allowing for all clan members to make the choice: In, or Out
   • At the end of the first 16 hours, the roster is locked down and the matching begins (T-minus 8 hours until war)
   • Matching can almost take any amount of time, but usually within a few hours
   
   
4. War!!
   
   • If you didn't get enough preparation time, what were you doing? You had 24 hours.
   • If your troops aren't ready or you didn't scope out the competition, no worries, you still have 24 more hours of war. (Just don't expect anyone to wait for you, slacker!)

Questions? Comments? Suggestions?


Addendum

1. Keeping the thought process of my original post, once the clan "squad" has been decided (after the 16 hour mark) the only members that can donate troops are those who have opted in. This would mean that for the war activities, you will need to request & donate troops via the Clan War section (using your war base CC).

2. Throwing out the idea completely, leaving everything that is in the game today (19 aug 2014), simply allow child clans to be created. This could be a benefit for more than just wars, as all those players that have alternate villages could become part of the sub-clan designated for the mini's.

It's also, evidently, fairly common. Everything except the timing ideas. Take a look at this post and be sure to vote 'Yes' for it: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-In-Out-of-War)

The Proposal:

Follow along with me if you will:

Leader/Co-Leader decides they feel like having a war
Said L/CL initiates the war
The clocks start! The usual 24 hours until war, with a twist:
The first clock is 16 hours, allowing for all clan members to make the choice: In, or Out
At the end of the first 16 hours, the roster is locked down and the matching begins (T-minus 8 hours until war)
Matching can almost take any amount of time, but usually within a few hours

Does the war search start before or after!! If it starts after 16 hrs what happens if not enough opt in? Does war search end and start the 16 hours over or does it start with the inactive even though they didn't opt in or out!

I can tell you really thought the idea out, however as I put above it would just circle around and you would either have to go 16 hrs again or you would still have inactive members in war!

So what about a leader and player controlled button! It could be beside the players name in the clan listings with a number showing how long it has been since the person's last log on, the leader could then opt them out! And when you opt them out.it could.send a.notification to the.player letting.them know! This way if the player can war they can pop back on and change it back! Then you know they will most likely fight!

This way you can go down the list after a while and see who all will war or not! And start war if you have enough!

This would need to be initiated before the clan war even begins. Even before the timer begins. If you did this during the preparation period, there would be absolutely no way to evenly match up with the other clan you are fighting. Phyxios has a thread up right now about clan war whitelisting, and I myself have a thread up. You should check both out, my own thread is in the link in my signature.

If you would kindly bring your attention to the line below:

"At the end of the first 16 hours, the roster is locked down and the matching begins"

This means, matching does not start when the leader chooses to initiate a war... that would be silly. The matching begins after the 16 hour opt-in clock ends (which means that opting-in is no longer possible, as would be opting-out), allowing for matching to actually commence. To close the gap, the second 8-hour clock could be on-hold until a match has been determined, providing a full 8 hours of scouting/preparation time before the war begins.

Giving the leader control of who is on the war roster would open the door for abuse of the feature (thus eliminating the idea from consideration per the forum rules). There is no need for the leaders to have that granular of control over the war, when they already have that control over the clan. If you don't want a particular member to be part of a war, then boot them from the clan completely to eliminate the root cause of your problem.

This idea is centered around the thought of opt-in, not opt-out. Therefore, by default, nobody except the person initiating the war would be involved.

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Originally Posted by Xelaecon

If you would kindly bring your attention to the line below:

"At the end of the first 16 hours, the roster is locked down and the matching begins"

This means, matching does not start when the leader chooses to initiate a war... that would be silly. The matching begins after the 16 hour opt-in clock ends (which means that opting-in is no longer possible, as would be opting-out), allowing for matching to actually commence. To close the gap, the second 8-hour clock could be on-hold until a match has been determined, providing a full 8 hours of scouting/preparation time before the war begins.

Giving the leader control of who is on the war roster would open the door for abuse of the feature (thus eliminating the idea from consideration per the forum rules). There is no need for the leaders to have that granular of control over the war, when they already have that control over the clan. If you don't want a particular member to be part of a war, then boot them from the clan completely to eliminate the root cause of your problem.

This idea is centered around the thought of opt-in, not opt-out. Therefore, by default, nobody except the person initiating the war would be involved.

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I don't know which post this was aimed at but if it was mine you will noticed I asked what would happen after 16 hours if not enough opt in would the 16 hr start again, or would it take members who didn't opt in and take them to war!

Secondly the other post is player and Leader controlled if the leader opts someone out they can pop back on to re click their opt button, this type is not against any rules! As it would allow a clan leader if the player should forget to click the opt button if your on vacation to click it for you! And if it is abused by the leader then the clan is not good to be in anyways because they would not be fair players!

Already been suggested numerous times- please use the search bar to check that you idea hasn't been said before. If it has then simply add to the most popular thread on that idea. It helps keep the ideas page booming with new ideas rather than repeated old ones.

Thanks. :cool:

To make sure everyone is aware, I did do a search and was unable to find anything using said search for the term "opt-in", thus this thread. Believe me, I took the time to read every single sticky in the forum to ensure I didn't blatantly violate the rules for my very first post.

That being said... it is clearly obvious that I didn't search hard enough.

Now, that being said. One last addendum to my idea as it does have a slight difference to the rest of the thoughts (and it is much less significant of a change to the game).

1. Keeping the thought process of my original post, once the clan "squad" has been decided (after the 16 hour mark) the only members that can donate troops are those who have opted in. This would mean that for the war activities, you will need to request & donate troops via the Clan War section (using your war base CC).

2. Throwing out the idea completely, leaving everything that is in the game today (19 aug 2014), simply allow child clans to be created. This could be a benefit for more than just wars, as all those players that have alternate villages could become part of the sub-clan designated for the mini's.


Either way, to ensure that nobody gets upset with yet another duplicate thread, this will be my final post on this thought. If I give it enough thought, I may post #2 from this post as its own idea after some more searching.

Feel free to post any thoughts on the addendum, if a moderator comes by they are more than welcome to lock this thread in lieu of the other threads that exist (including the one linked in post #2 above).

Thanks all!

I would like to see in a future update the ability to choose who in the clan is in or out for war. the ability to change status can be limited to colead and/or leaders and each player should be able to change their own status. This could be a button for each player on the clan info age that toggles between Warrior and Farmer (Or Spectator, or whatever).

Currently for members that say they are going to be too busy or for any reason the war is a hardship on them we have to put them out, start the war, then invite them back in. That's awkward.

We like 10x10 wars so we keep the clan small and often have to turn away nice guys that just want to be social but prefer quiet farming to taking on war responsibilities. This means our clan is less of a clubhouse or place friends can chat and more like a businesslike war machine. (Do your job or get out!) If this feature was added we could have a much larger clan with more friendship going on and then have are smaller warrior circle within it. And the rest would really enjoy the show.

We do have a farm clan and war clan setup we move guys back and forth between but again this is high hassle to administrate and also the farming guys would still like to enjoy the sideshow if they could spectate.