Wall breakers behavior

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April 14th, 2013
dadoplus

Wall breakers behavior

Hi everybody! Question: after last CoC update wall breakers started to occupy 2 spaces and changed their behavior, not caring about single walls and stuff like that. For the first days it was great, but now I updated them to level 5 and they act weird. I mean, let's say I encounter 1 external line of walls, then 3 spaces with cannons for example, and then an internal line of walls. Now, before I took them to level 5 I used to break the first line, and then, with the other troops, to send 2/3 more to break the second line, and they used to go right through. Now I break the first line and when I send the second round they don't go inside anymore! They just go to another point of the external line, that can be more far or - and that's crazy - to the really next walls to the ones I just destroyed!!! And they cost 3k so it's a enormous waste!!! Does someone else have this problem or it's just me?
April 14th, 2013
Rager

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Originally Posted by dadoplus

Hi everybody! Question: after last CoC update wall breakers started to occupy 2 spaces and changed their behavior, not caring about single walls and stuff like that. For the first days it was great, but now I updated them to level 5 and they act weird. I mean, let's say I encounter 1 external line of walls, then 3 spaces with cannons for example, and then an internal line of walls. Now, before I took them to level 5 I used to break the first line, and then, with the other troops, to send 2/3 more to break the second line, and they used to go right through. Now I break the first line and when I send the second round they don't go inside anymore! They just go to another point of the external line, that can be more far or - and that's crazy - to the really next walls to the ones I just destroyed!!! And they cost 3k so it's a enormous waste!!! Does someone else have this problem or it's just me?

Look at flammy5's video on them on YouTube, it shows what they go for etc. he's also a mod on these forums named flammmy.
April 14th, 2013
Junliang

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Originally Posted by dadoplus

Hi everybody!

Hello, and welcome to the forum.

You can check out the official Wall breaker FAQ here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...d-how-it-works

Or you can just read from this quote:

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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

A Wall Breaker’s ultimate goal in life is to liberate buildings that are trapped (fully or partially) by walls :D

How does the Wall Breaker choose its target? Steps 1, 2, 3
1. It will look for the nearest building/turret that is trapped (fully or partially) by walls
2. It will choose the shortest path towards that building and blow up walls that are in its way
3. After the wall is blown up, it will choose the next building that is still trapped by walls, run straight towards it, and blow up walls that are in its way

So Wall Breakers don’t target walls anymore?!?!!1!!!!?
No. Instead of targeting walls, they aim for the main prize, a building that is trapped by walls. The wall just happens to be in its way, and has to be blown up.
That building is the reason why you need that wall taken down, right?

Do Wall Breakers attack buildings?
No. They aim for the building and blow up the wall that is in their path.

Do Wall Breakers favorite junctions?
No. The Wall Breaker will run in a straight line towards the nearest building. When it encounters a wall, it blows it up.

Can I fool Wall Breakers by using spikes or short decoy wall sections?
No. They won't be fooled by those.

Regarding your issue, the reason why they acted that way is because the buildings that are at the first row, behind the walls, are still considered "enclosed" by the wall breakers, thus leading them to breaking it.

Few methods to overcome this issue is to
1) Clear off buildings on the first layer first before moving on.
2) Attack from the corners (Situational, depends on the base design)
3) Sending excessive wall breakers (Situational, might get shot down before reaching the 2nd layer)

Here are 2 nice tutorial vid for you to learn from

Video Link 1: Wolfz's Guide to New Wall Breakers AI in Clash of Clans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YXieLZ3y3TA

Video Link 2: Flammy's ULTIMATE Wall Breaker Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjOS...Yh65z7kWJntB_V

Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by Rager

Look at flammy5's video on them on YouTube, it shows what they go for etc. he's also a mod on these forums named flammmy.

Flammy is not a mod.
April 14th, 2013
Rager

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Originally Posted by Junliang

Hello, and welcome to the forum.

You can check out the official Wall breaker FAQ here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...d-how-it-works

Or you can just read from this quote:

Regarding your issue, the reason why they acted that way is because the buildings that are at the first row, behind the walls, are still considered "enclosed" by the wall breakers, thus leading them to breaking it.

Few methods to overcome this issue is to
1) Clear off buildings on the first layer first before moving on.
2) Attack from the corners (Situational, depends on the base design)
3) Sending excessive wall breakers (Situational, might get shot down before reaching the 2nd layer)

Here are 2 nice tutorial vid for you to learn from

Video Link 1: Wolfz's Guide to New Wall Breakers AI in Clash of Clans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YXieLZ3y3TA

Video Link 2: Flammy's ULTIMATE Wall Breaker Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjOSEN9Llo&list=PLmcCn9jl33OUSpLifOBYh65z 7kWJntB_V

Hope this helps.

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Flammy is not a mod.

Really? :0
April 14th, 2013
Junliang

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Originally Posted by Rager

Really? :0

http://i49.tinypic.com/2rf6dxe.jpg
April 14th, 2013
dadoplus

Thanks, but what is crazy is that now it often happens like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (those are walls in a row)

I destroy for example the central ones, 5 and 6, so I have:

1 2 3 4 - - 7 8 9

then I send other units, and instead of going through the hole, they go and bomb 4 or 7!!!!!

It's just a few days that they act like this, I think more or less since I took em to level 5, and it's ruining a lot of battles because they're completely unpredictable!!!
April 14th, 2013
Stefm211

What you describe is certainly how my wall breakers have been behaving since the update, until yesterday that is. I had a raid yesterday with large pocket containing all storages and defences but inside of it was a TH enclosed by walls. I sent 2 wall breakers to let my giants in, they blow the wall and as my giants are entering the pocket I see one of my wall breakers bee lining across the pocket for the wall around the TH. Needless to say he got fried by the wizard towers long before he got to the wall but I was just flabbergasted to see him behaving like they used to before the update. That pocket was 3 layers of buildings deep so I just couldn't figure out how he targeted that wall. Just one of those shake my head and move on moments.
April 14th, 2013
dadoplus

Last battle: 1 line of external walls, 1 line of internal walls. Let's say as before that this is the wall:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

I send 2 wall breakers, they destroy 5 and 6.

1 2 3 4 - - 7 8 9

Seems to me that there is a breach in the external walls, so no need to destroy it more, and start with giants.

So I try to send 5 (FIVE!!!!!!!) more WB to get trough the hole and destroy the internal line of walls.

They decide that they prefer to destroy 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 and 9, while my giants were being killed waiting for them .

I spent like 80000 elixir to gain not even 20 000 of 240 000 possible because of those suckers.

I can't even hope them to burn in hell because they're f*****g skeletons and they have no flesh.
April 14th, 2013
Vilehelm

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Originally Posted by dadoplus

Thanks, but what is crazy is that now it often happens like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (those are walls in a row)

I destroy for example the central ones, 5 and 6, so I have:

1 2 3 4 - - 7 8 9

then I send other units, and instead of going through the hole, they go and bomb 4 or 7!!!!!

It's just a few days that they act like this, I think more or less since I took em to level 5, and it's ruining a lot of battles because they're completely unpredictable!!!

I very occasionally get that behavior, it's not the norm but have definitely seen it before.

I attribute it to glitch, and I've had lvl5 since the update so I can't say wether level makes a difference.

9/10 times they behave as expected.
April 14th, 2013
Syaoraen

I understand the building behind the first exposed wall was still consider enclosed that's why Wb keep breaking the opened first layer. But you guys ever think its a bug? I mean how the hell do they not know its unguarded? How can this be intentional? Btw I already figure out how to trick them to always do that. I'm 100% sure this isn't intentional.
April 14th, 2013
Presto

It's very simple. When you have blown up a hole in the first layer of walls, you must clear the buildings inside that wall layer near the hole before sending in more wallbreakers. 100% guaranteed success. :p
April 14th, 2013
dadoplus

Mmmmh that's probably it. I'll try and let you know. Thanks guys!
April 14th, 2013
Treborray

My wall breakers will blow walls with no structures behind it. Sometimes it's further away from the walls I need them to blow.
April 14th, 2013
Storthoop

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Originally Posted by Presto

It's very simple. When you have blown up a hole in the first layer of walls, you must clear the buildings inside that wall layer near the hole before sending in more wallbreakers. 100% guaranteed success. :p

I had also some difficulties with the WB. I will try this solution but it is still strange that the wallbreaker destroyed a wall that was already open and not went for the second line