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I started upgrading a troop at 9pm local time (14 days for LVL 5 Hogs). Now a couple days later it shows 12 days and 12 hours left. Therefore, the hogs won't be finished until 12pm now on the day they are completed. How did the extra three hours get added on to the upgrade time?
Builder timing scam
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...iming+inflated
SuperSteve's excuse
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...iming+inflated
Isn't that kind of crazy? The fix is too hard, so they won't do it??
Bump. Should we really just accept this?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
The bug is obviously some deep-rooted flaw in the language itself (if SuperSteve's reasoning is valid). If they'd have to rewrite all the code in a new language, SC might have to hire a bunch of new people who know that new language, not to mention the heartache of having to redo the entire game (and the long time before a new update).
CoC is the #1 app in the world, they can afford it.
Do you know how much work it takes to code an entire game?Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
Yes. 250 people and 24 hours of work each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenn
Is it more or less than the Hay Day commercial production costs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenn
Less......
Yep!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kittehhoard
You can't just throw money at something to make a game...Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
The current servers are in Java.
Build time (and most other stuff) is handled by the server.
fixing the bug would require a different programming language.
That language would most likely be c++ or c#; probably c++ as it is not only supported by Microsoft.
C++ is very different from java.
To recode it, SC would have to make sure that all of their staff knows the new language, or hire new people.
Both would take lots of time.
Actually recoding the servers would take more time.
Time means fewer updates.
Fewer updates means less money.
Less money means that SC won't do it.
Whatever, I am pretty sure people have been keeping time accurately long before JAVA???Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenn
You don't get the point. According to this fixing the bug would require a complete rewrite of the code, in a new language. The question isn't how to fix it, because there simply IS no way to fix it. Supercell can't fix a bug in a programming language that they don't control.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
Google it. Keeping time is not as easy as you think. Windows clocks are regularly off on your computer and that is one instance of many. Suffice it to say this has been known for over a year and will not be fixed. You can question it all you want but you will only be wasting your time and valuable space on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
In response to the OP. 3 hours over 2 days is quite extreme leading me to think the cause for such a huge number is the result of recent server problems that required certain villages to be restored from a previous state.
Okay, then why not just reduce the upgrade times?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coathanger
*facepalm*Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
People will still complain. "My upgrade used to be 5 days. SC nerfed the upgrade time, but it still took it 5 days. I want gems to compensate."
To me the problem is much smaller than most make it out to be. I get 1-2 hours over 10 days or about .05% inflation. If it was something I could not forgive or ignore I would not play the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
Do you have a stopwatch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenn
How does that matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by hazer1mike
Ok: This is so no one has to bump this any more:
-Supercell has stated that they are not fixing the bug
-To fix the bug, they'd have to completely rewrite the game.
-That won't happen.
-While I can think of a viable way to maneuver around the bug, I understand why SC doesn't want to fix it.
-Shortening build times would not help, as the bug would still apply to the shortened time.
I believe the build time bug was intentional, so they can sucker you into buying gems to finish upgrades.
Without having looked at their code, I'm guessing it's a synchronisation problem. The server can't change the state of your village while it is being loaded by the client. Which is why timers lag by a few seconds each time you load your village.
I don't believe they need to rewrite the game to fix it - let alone rewrite it in a different language. I'm sure there are things they can do to minimise the problem or even negate it completely without rewriting significant amounts of code.
That said, it's a small issue. Let's all just get over it.
as a gamer's POV... this should be fixed.
yes. it's a small issue. however, every log-in creates a plus xx seconds to the building time. this sucks big if you are building 10++days.
this would be a big issue for players that do not bring their devices on work/school. imagine you would be waiting for it to be finished at around 6am before leaving your home. and it has lagged for 30 mins. so it will be finished at 6:30. which, you wouldn't be able to let the builder build another building - you can only build the next building when you get home or you got time to connect to the game - thus wasting 4 to 10 hours of builder's time.
anyways, this has been found since from the start. and since players complain yet still plays this game. it shows that players are still enjoying this game even if this bug is around. that is why they are not going to fix this unless there are less issues and they find time to fix this "not priority" bug. or all gamers gets out of this game because of this issue (which is unlikely).
the reply saying whole game should be re-do in a different language means:
1. the language they are using is not capable of fixing this issue OR
2. they don't have the best designers as this can be fixed (like any other game that has building times)
As an almost maxed town hall 9, the lag really isn't that big of an issue. Yes it adds on a few minutes here and there. Im sure my longest was actually about 6 hours, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.
Supercell could easily solve the issue by saying, your builder needs breaks according to the European court of human rights, therefore your upgrade may take slightly longer... Lol.
Or that whenever someone tries to load the village, they get scared and hide for a few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyle