The Hydra: New Dark Troop!

The Hydra: New Dark Troop!

The Hydra

When a Hydra loses a head two grow back so as the Hydra has more and more damage done to it, it deals out more damage. The Hydra is much like the P.E.K.K.A and dragon in size and has about 4 heads. The Hydra is a ground troop that is relatively slow and is used in groups of about 2 or 3. It is meant to destroy as much as possible before death.


Training Cost: 1,200 Dark Elixir
Training Time: 45 minutes
Housing Space: 30
Damage Per Second: 160 at full hitpoints
Hit Points: 2000
Hitpoint Loss to Damage gain ratio: 50 hitpoints lost-15 damage per second gained
Movement Speed: 16
Weakness: heroes x2 damage (thank you SuperViking)
Reference Art: Google Images

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...151485&thumb=1

Great idea!!

Sounds awesome!!! I would just put 45 instead of 35

This troop would become way overpowered so to make it fair it would have to have a weakness, such as it would be archer towers fav target . This is like hogs and giant bombs

The Hydra would gain 100 hitpoints for every upgrade and would do 10 more damage per second for every time it gains.

Great idea, very original and can add a new dimension to the game :)

Finally the wizard have a worthy competitor in terms of damage :)

I only have 1 comment, since the hydra has 2000 hitpoints, and gain 15dps for every 50hp lost, then at near death it will have 600-700dps which is crazy! Well I'm not saying it's grossly overpowered because it's going to die soon anyway after reaching a dps so high.

To be useful, the Hydra need to have a high attack rate, like 2x a second.

OP, but epic!

However I was expecting the hydra to being able to attack three buildings at once with three heads...

This is a good and well thought idea. Although it's overpowered. Perhaps it should have a weakness?

I was thinking that the Hydras weakness should be the inferno tower becuase in the story of hercules he kills the hydra by cutting off all the heads then burning it. Im not sure it is such a good idea so please tell me if you guys have any suggestions. Thanks :D

Great idea!! :cool:

Thanks for the positive comments guys they are very much appreciated and be sure to give me any more ideas for the Hydra. Thanks :D

as mentioned I think it should have a weakness, I also think that maybe you could do something like a golem, where it has one head, but when it dies 2 heads pop out and have like 1/4 of the dps and hit points

We already have a dragon though.. I doubt another one would be added, unless it was and upgrade from 4-5

Thanks for the positive comments, feel free tell me if you have any more additions to the Hydra. Thx

how do u put pics in ur treads?

awesome idea!!!

you just have to go to copy the URL of your pic then go to insert image which is the icon to the right of the mini-earths. Then just paste the URL in the spot where it says from URL and press ok.

Great idea, but as other people have said, it definitely needs a weakness.

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Originally Posted by TheHobbityHobbits44

The Hydra: New Dark Troop!

The Hydra

When a Hydra loses a head two grow back so as the Hydra has more and more damage done to it, it deals out more damage. The Hydra is much like the P.E.K.K.A and dragon in size and has about 4 heads. The Hydra is a ground troop that is relatively slow and is used in groups of about 2 or 3. It is meant to destroy as much as possible before death.


Training Cost: 1,200 Dark Elixir
Training Time:35 minutes
Housing Space: 30
Damage Per Second: 160 at full hitpoints
Hit Points: 2000
Hitpoint Loss to Damage gain ratio: 50 hitpoints lost-15 damage per second gained
Movement Speed: 16
Reference Art: Google Images

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...151485&thumb=1

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Great Idea!!!

P.S just wondering if you are a Ragnarok Player!!

Very good idea, and I like that it will add a dark troop to the mix potentially!

I agree. Lol

I'm all up but don't you think it would be difficult with the hydra healer or healing spell team up I mean it goes back and forth it'll be pretty confusing .You got to make the hydra unhealabe or do something about it

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I was thinking that the Hydras weakness should be the inferno tower

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I disagree. The inferno tower is already way OP.

How about making the Hydras's weakness, cannons or something that other units don't particularly fear?

Maybe the weakness could be clan castle troops or maybe archer towers, and no i dont even know what ragnarok is.

its a lot like a golem

This is a great idea but would quickly become super OP. If you don't put in the weakness yourself (I did with my Luna), Supercell will ding it so badly like have it extremely weak against Inferno Towers or something.

This is more or less the same as the hydra I created-look at my posts. Good all the same!

Great Idea. This may prove too OP. What this could be instead is(drumroll).................A HERO. Yes you heardme right a HERO. Chuck in an ability, a reasonablr training cost and voila, Supercell's next upgrade

Good idea👍

Since everybody wants a weakness the weakness is anything that does an area splash damage does x2 damage on Hydras because they have multiple heads. Please tell me what you think. thanks

Great idea! We def need more de troops! Cmon SC!

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Originally Posted by TheHobbityHobbits44

I was thinking that the Hydras weakness should be the inferno tower becuase in the story of hercules he kills the hydra by cutting off all the heads then burning it. Im not sure it is such a good idea so please tell me if you guys have any suggestions. Thanks :D

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How about each head has 200 hitpoints and 100dps. it has 3 heads each head can choose it own building to attack or team up all heads to one building for a solid dps?

Nice idea but alittle op

How about a more snake like one without the wings

I think the Hydra could have wings just to make them look cool but besides that the Hydra will attack one target at a time so that it does not become OP like the inferno tower.

I honestly do not have many ideas on how to makes this not op so if you have ideas please tell me. Thanks:D

to much op for troop the housing space needs to be more like 50

but limiting it to Inferno tower still makes it a bit op. I'd say add another weakness, perhaps magic/lightning since those would be closest to fire/heat, but not restricting to TH 10 only?

It should be the heros, as the hydra was killed by a hero you should make it that the barb king and archer queen do triple damage and they are drawn to it at a wider range...
also perhaps the other ideas of either inferno towers, archer towers or wizard towers (pick 1) should do double or 1.5x damage

I agree to those saying that this is OP. So it must have a weakness. Also, I have added the mechanics for the head growing damage health relationship.

Weakness against:

1. Arrows
   -Archer Towers, Archers, Archer Queen and X-Bows
2. Splash Damage
   -Each head should be a "separate unit" so when a mortar hits the hydra, each head will receive damage(thus, doing 4x damage if the hydra has already 4 heads).
   -Also, inferno towers on multi mode may target more than one head.

My thoughts on the initial stats:

Training Time:35 minutes > probably longer?
Housing Space: 30 > around 40 would be better so it wont be too OP
Movement Speed: 16 > i think ~12 would be better


My suggestion about the mechanics for the head growing and damage-health relationship:

• Every time the hydra loses 400HP, it would grow a head.
• Each head will have the same amount of damage as the first head; thus, doubling, tripling or quadrupling the damage of the hydra on a step by step basis.
• Each head will be a damage receiving unit against splash damage attacks; thus doubling, tripling or quadrupling the splash damage received by the hydra on a step by step basis.

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I was just about to post this myself! I do have an idea for the wings, however. They could be used to flap over a wall, much like hog riders, so it lands on the other side. I think this game would be great with more reptilian monsters

I like this idea. Perhaps make it have less of a boost as it nears death, however, and tack on a small speed increase. Just before death, I think 26 speed would be ideal.

Personally i love the idea of heroes being the Hydras weakness since the Hydra was killed by Hero, so as of now the hero is the official Hydras weakness. Thank you SuperViking for the amazing idea!

[QUOTE=TheHobbityHobbits44;2587498]The Hydra: New Dark Troop!

The Hydra
sorry the image is quite small but likethis? hope it looks alright and instead of having many different stages just has 3 heads (starts off with one) so the Hydra would become enraged at the last stage, when the third head grows out because the 1 and second were destroyed, its really hard to explain huh :') but yeah that sexy beast below me, i might animate it put it into clash with ifile or something, but i'd get myself in trouble over that ..
P.S the tail looks terrible dont hate me :') ​

Weakness should be wizard towers?
with the hero idea why not have it so any melee type troops deal 20x damage for example?

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Originally Posted by Herpetofauna

I was just about to post this myself! I do have an idea for the wings, however. They could be used to flap over a wall, much like hog riders, so it lands on the other side. I think this game would be great with more reptilian monsters

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or it can reach over the walls with its snake head/s

Only problem, what level Dark Barracks would it have to be trained in, how many levels it has.

I do not think that the Hydra should attack multiple targets at once. But thank you for the ideas.

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Originally Posted by Lolipop69

This troop would become way overpowered so to make it fair it would have to have a weakness, such as it would be archer towers fav target . This is like hogs and giant bombs

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Actually, its more like inferno tower(single target mode) except the Inferno doesnt need to lose hp..
A MAX INFERNO (SINGLE TARGET) CAN KILL A LEVEL 5 GOLEM IN ONLY 6 SECONDS ;)

I actually thought of this as well, but with slightly different stats, and different abilities.


For one thing, I get the whole growing new heads thing, which makes sense that the damage would increase, but you could also have it start off with 7 or 8 and lose DPS as it dies. Right now, as others have pointed out, the damage increase makes it jump to over 600 at the end, and if it grows a new head ever 50 HP it loses, that's 40 heads. So you might be better off changing it to a damage increase every 2-300 HP.


In the version I created, the hydra could do single target damage to multiple targets at once with different heads. It could not fly, but it would be able to attack and damage flying units some fraction of the time (50%?). It also could not climb over walls, but could reach over them to attack units immediately on the other side.

We were looking for an OP troop like this to raid TH10 all Max defenses! Sweet!

I really think this is a GREAT idea. But it seems that the poster is no longer supporting this thread. Please. Someone adopt it if its possible.

The Terrifying Hydra!! I made some concept art for you, great idea dude.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...psd4dd096d.jpg

If you are interested check out my thread "so you wanna make a new troop?" I'm trying to put a list of all the best troop ideas together in one place for a community comparison about which ones we'd want most

Hydra will certainly be on that list :)

I would like you guys to know I remain the post leader and host.

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I would like you guys to know I remain the post leader and host.

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Good to know? Lol.

this means what exactly?

Wow it can become op but this idea it's fantastic!!

love the concept art lol

I think this idea would be good for town hall 11

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Originally Posted by tr1pped

Great Idea. This may prove too OP. What this could be instead is(drumroll).................A HERO. Yes you heardme right a HERO. Chuck in an ability, a reasonablr training cost and voila, Supercell's next upgrade

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Only issue with the hero weakness is heroes are way to easily killed in attacks, I'm thinking for a weakness make it weak to xbows. Similar to how the pekka is weak against teslas.

Nerf it, then it would be great imo, btw I think 35 housing space would be better

Good idea, but the cost is too high (1200 D.E ?)

Nah this one should be in God of war or Zelda but not in clash of clans + it's too expensive and it will ruin the balance.

so great minds think about. I recently posted about something similar but also different. If you could review my thread titled some new ideas. Note:I posted mine before seeing this wasn't trying to steal idea.

GREAT IDEA!!! supercell plz do this next update

1200 dark, your having a laugh. Max lvl must be 2500 to train

wiley

hmm loads of hydra suggestiosn atm lol

I changed the training time to 45 minutes, good idea guys.