Queen's AI is seriously Screwed up!

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August 16th, 2014
Kuo

Queen's AI is seriously Screwed up!

Before this, i watched my friend doing max GoWiPe on #2 so its #1 in our clan againist #1 and 2 but lets do 2nd first, at end with just 95% and queen were bout 7-10 hits away from dying by cannon, queen and arch attacked collectors which near cannon but suddenly she killed it and move away from him and go to outside of base to battle him. Cannon hit him twice and Queen started fired him after 2nd ♥♥♥♥, then Cannon died and he shot one more before he died then it hit her and lost... 2 star 98% ♥♥♥?! This wouldve never happend if she didnt move away and stay with her baby arch battling him won the first 3 star. Now #1 he did GoWiPe again, Barb King did whatever he want him to do, at the end with 95% Queen started to move away archer tower and go to collectors which have 2 giants bomb near it. Guess what? She went through it and got OWNED! by giant bomb which made him lost 3 star and end up with 2 star 95%

Queen's AI is seriously screwed up and King is very good, sometime weird but always good. Please fix this SC
August 16th, 2014
Ahorer

Thid case wont be solved in near future
August 16th, 2014
Ganzilat

Queen's AI works as intended. She needs to be dumb, it's part of the nerfing. So her dumb AI is working without mistakes, she is just very dumb. That's all.
August 16th, 2014
mtommy2597

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Originally Posted by Ganzilat

Queen's AI works as intended. She needs to be dumb, it's part of the nerfing. So her dumb AI is working without mistakes, she is just very dumb. That's all.

it works perfectly most of the time, therefore it works perfectly
August 16th, 2014
aTh

yea i call my heroes "special" so that i wont offend them! :o:o
August 16th, 2014
johnnybro1234

Actually the AQ's AL isn't wrong, have a look at galadon's video it explains it all!
August 17th, 2014
Darthdany

Kuo you do realize that before her death, the Queen's 'screwed up' AI did use her stupidity well and attacked the 2nd most near thing (Cannon and Archer Tower) in both replays, which caused her to lose less HP. If that hadn't happened, then the raid would've ended earlier, resulting in less. So stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.
Regarding replay on top player - how did the Giant Bombs have to do anything with the Queen's AI? After the last building near her was killed, she went on a path which unfortunately did have 2 Giant Bombs, but that was the way that she was supposed to go to attack the closest building (Archer Tower). Yes, there was another way that was of similiar length (albeit with no Giant Bomb) that she could've used to attack the Archer Tower, but then she'd be in range of last 3 defenses and will still be killed.

TL;DR: Stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.
August 17th, 2014
MCKILLZYOU

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Originally Posted by johnnybro1234

Actually the AQ's AL isn't wrong, have a look at galadon's video it explains it all!

I've seen his videos, and in those cases, yes the Queen's ai was working as intended. The part where the queen hit the wall, he had no explanation except a guess. The queen's ai is flawed in the sense that instead of taking the path of least resistance, 10 tiles away or so, and running through the broken wall, the queen causes more resistance which is time consuming and risks her being dealt unnecessary damage by shooting an opening through walls. And all troops do this, the queen is just more noticeable. IMO the ai is purposely flawed to this extent to not make the game to easy. Just my two cents.
August 17th, 2014
Kuo

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Originally Posted by Darthdany

Kuo you do realize that before her death, the Queen's 'screwed up' AI did use her stupidity well and attacked the 2nd most near thing (Cannon and Archer Tower) in both replays, which caused her to lose less HP. If that hadn't happened, then the raid would've ended earlier, resulting in less. So stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.
Regarding replay on top player - how did the Giant Bombs have to do anything with the Queen's AI? After the last building near her was killed, she went on a path which unfortunately did have 2 Giant Bombs, but that was the way that she was supposed to go to attack the closest building (Archer Tower). Yes, there was another way that was of similiar length (albeit with no Giant Bomb) that she could've used to attack the Archer Tower, but then she'd be in range of last 3 defenses and will still be killed.

TL;DR: Stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.

Dude, Queen should've attacked Archer Tower first since its the only Defensive building in the #1 base and Few kings could've killed the rest and won the first 3 star. Barbarians died before Queens ignore tower and head for collector and fked up by bombs. I HATE YOU Queen! Kiss my ♥♥♥
August 17th, 2014
gallantblade

As much as I love my Queen, she really gives me the sh!ts sometimes. It is like my wife.

Sometimes amazing, sometimes I just think to myself ♥♥♥ are you doing!

But I can't live without her. I love my wife…I mean my Queen. <3
August 17th, 2014
rjdofu

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Originally Posted by Darthdany

Kuo you do realize that before her death, the Queen's 'screwed up' AI did use her stupidity well and attacked the 2nd most near thing (Cannon and Archer Tower) in both replays, which caused her to lose less HP. If that hadn't happened, then the raid would've ended earlier, resulting in less. So stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.
Regarding replay on top player - how did the Giant Bombs have to do anything with the Queen's AI? After the last building near her was killed, she went on a path which unfortunately did have 2 Giant Bombs, but that was the way that she was supposed to go to attack the closest building (Archer Tower). Yes, there was another way that was of similiar length (albeit with no Giant Bomb) that she could've used to attack the Archer Tower, but then she'd be in range of last 3 defenses and will still be killed.

TL;DR: Stop focusing on the negatives, because there were positives to the Queen's AI.

How about you stop defending bad AI and focus more on the facts so that it'll get fixed sooner? With your attitude like that, when will things get done?
August 17th, 2014
Darthdany

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Originally Posted by rjdofu

How about you stop defending bad AI and focus more on the facts so that it'll get fixed sooner? With your attitude like that, when will things get done?

I'm just telling the truth... And yes I do want the Queen's AI to be fixed, but what I've written above is just a passage on why *sometimes* the bad AI can be better.
August 17th, 2014
rjdofu

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Originally Posted by Darthdany

I'm just telling the truth... And yes I do want the Queen's AI to be fixed, but what I've written above is just a passage on why *sometimes* the bad AI can be better.

I'd say that is just pure luck, but fair enough.
August 17th, 2014
whiskey299

Troop segregation!

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Originally Posted by Kuo

Before this, i watched my friend doing max GoWiPe on #2 so its #1 in our clan againist #1 and 2 but lets do 2nd first, at end with just 95% and queen were bout 7-10 hits away from dying by cannon, queen and arch attacked collectors which near cannon but suddenly she killed it and move away from him and go to outside of base to battle him. Cannon hit him twice and Queen started fired him after 2nd ♥♥♥♥, then Cannon died and he shot one more before he died then it hit her and lost... 2 star 98% ♥♥♥?! This wouldve never happend if she didnt move away and stay with her baby arch battling him won the first 3 star. Now #1 he did GoWiPe again, Barb King did whatever he want him to do, at the end with 95% Queen started to move away archer tower and go to collectors which have 2 giants bomb near it. Guess what? She went through it and got OWNED! by giant bomb which made him lost 3 star and end up with 2 star 95%

Queen's AI is seriously screwed up and King is very good, sometime weird but always good. Please fix this SC

You need to segregate your troops, the shirtless barbs are a major distraction to the queen who probably hasn't been cuddled by the king in ages!
August 17th, 2014
Hampoos

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Originally Posted by Kuo

Before this, i watched my friend doing max GoWiPe on #2 so its #1 in our clan againist #1 and 2 but lets do 2nd first, at end with just 95% and queen were bout 7-10 hits away from dying by cannon, queen and arch attacked collectors which near cannon but suddenly she killed it and move away from him and go to outside of base to battle him. Cannon hit him twice and Queen started fired him after 2nd ♥♥♥♥, then Cannon died and he shot one more before he died then it hit her and lost... 2 star 98% ♥♥♥?! This wouldve never happend if she didnt move away and stay with her baby arch battling him won the first 3 star. Now #1 he did GoWiPe again, Barb King did whatever he want him to do, at the end with 95% Queen started to move away archer tower and go to collectors which have 2 giants bomb near it. Guess what? She went through it and got OWNED! by giant bomb which made him lost 3 star and end up with 2 star 95%

Queen's AI is seriously screwed up and King is very good, sometime weird but always good. Please fix this SC

Archer queen always target the closest building, watch clash of clans attacks (youtube channel) when galadon attacks he explains how the aq is actually doing what she is supposed to do :attacking the closest target, and there is nothing wrong with archer queen. Thank you for your time
August 18th, 2014
EvilRayquaza

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Originally Posted by Kuo

King is very good

Pls tell me this is a joke
tbh i have seen the king do worse than the queen in my raids
August 18th, 2014
Jwp721

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Originally Posted by EvilRayquaza

Pls tell me this is a joke
tbh i have seen the king do worse than the queen in my raids

Our last war I saw a B King walk right up to a xbow and then started beating on a wall right beside it. All the time getting blistered by the xbow. lol.
August 18th, 2014
sirhybrid

:confused:
August 18th, 2014
Kementarri

I made a post about this as well. She seems to ignore buildings that are closest to her sometimes... pretty stupid

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ueen-AI-bugged
August 18th, 2014
Kementarri

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Originally Posted by Hampoos

Archer queen always target the closest building, watch clash of clans attacks (youtube channel) when galadon attacks he explains how the aq is actually doing what she is supposed to do :attacking the closest target, and there is nothing wrong with archer queen. Thank you for your time

Please see my screenshots in this thread.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ueen-AI-bugged

you sir are wrong. It is impossible to refute that the cannon was the next closest building. Thank you for your time.
August 18th, 2014
Cristian

supercell logic: lets make the abilities stronger and make the AI dumber. you know what, lets take some HP and DPS out while we are at it.
August 18th, 2014
kallup

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Originally Posted by johnnybro1234

Actually the AQ's AL isn't wrong, have a look at galadon's video it explains it all!

link it plz

My AQ does curious things at times and I'd like to get the answer.

I've seen her walk past an AT to target a cannon behind it. She also will do other strange things like walk past one resource building to attack another.
August 18th, 2014
akedawg47

I really don't think the queen's AI is messed up at all. People forget that she attacks with a significantly longer range than any other unit in the game, along with being able to shoot over walls. That being said, the queen primarily will target the structure that is closest IN HER RANGE. If a structure is nearby her and is behind a wall, she will blast the wall rather than attacking the structure that is unprotected, but further away.
August 18th, 2014
Kementarri

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Originally Posted by akedawg47

I really don't think the queen's AI is messed up at all. People forget that she attacks with a significantly longer range than any other unit in the game, along with being able to shoot over walls. That being said, the queen primarily will target the structure that is closest IN HER RANGE. If a structure is nearby her and is behind a wall, she will blast the wall rather than attacking the structure that is unprotected, but further away.

please look at my thread with screenshots in it, i linked it on the 2nd page of this thread.
August 18th, 2014
Growler

She often has a brainfart and does inexplicable things. She will walk past buildings to attack things behind them, she will take outrageous detours to get to something innocuous for no reason whatsoever, those are simply the facts.

No amount of watching youtubers or making incorrect statements explain anything.