Dragontear: TH8 Anti-Dragon, Anti-Hog war base

Anyone using dragons with half a brain will easily break the ring and path to the core after which your base is toast.
That kind of ring is good against hog riders and literally nothing else. Even th 8 balloons from the bottom would wipe half your towers down there.

I would send balloons to destroy the outer defense. Then send hogs straight to the core with heal and rage spell stacked. This is easy 3 stars.
Check out the holowiwi tactic, it will eat your base easily.
/Meh

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Originally Posted by treyshooter

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Originally Posted by qdoubleu

Thanks! I'm glad you like it. :)

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Lol, the sarcasm was lost on you I see. I will be more blunt: this is a terrible anti dragon base against anyone who knows what they are doing in the slightest. Noobs, sure it could prevent three.

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Thank you for your insightful commentary. You're a master attack strategist. :)

Here is the updated design I ended up using for the war.

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I sorted the outside bases from strongest to weakest (except for the army camps, not much that can be done there) to hopefully help funnel spread out dragons up towards the top.


At the last minute I moved the leftmost elixir collector to the right one space to open up a hole. It's the only spot on the field that is open. I did it to make a trap to try and get someone to dump all their dragons in one spot but I'm now regretting that decision. Next war I'm going to take it out.


So far in the war I've been attacked once: 44 percent 0-stars. Mainly a giant/healer attack with some archers, wizards, and 3 dragons. I'm happy to finally see a attack against my base that's not dragons or hogs but, if there is one type of attack that I know won't work on this base it's giant/healer so not really a true test. I will update if I get any more attacks.

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Originally Posted by BigDarrick

My suggestion is to set up at least one double bomb scenario for hogs. Not enough DPS/range in the middle so the hogs will certainly go around in a ring but deployed from two locations will make short work of this. If you can take out at least one of those groups of hogs, you will do much better in that scenario.

The drags it will be interesting. I actually like this design despite some of the naysayers but it will depend on how they are deployed. If in a clump, you are good, they will circle around and I think you are right..run out of time. But that is an inexperienced deployment. If they deploy in a wall then only the outer dragons will ring and the rest will go straight center and one rage, one heal would keep most alive. Or two rage for you anti heal gents. So it will really depend on if your attacker knows how to path his drags.

Looking forward to the replays, kudos for slapping up an original base design for comments.

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Thank you Darrick for this.

Now with the July 3rd update where giant bombs do 1.5x damage to hogs do you know if one lvl 3 giant bomb plus 2 lvl 5 regular bombs is enough to take out lvl 4 hog riders? I'm not going to worry about lvl 5 hogs since that is th9. My giant bombs and bombs are lvl 2 and lvl 4 respectively right now but I'm in the process of upgrading them. I'm hoping this way will work so that I have 3 places to take out the hogs rather than one.

For spread dragons my theory is that it will take spreading out the dragons a lot more than most people will think to do but we'll see what happens.

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Originally Posted by GodII

Anyone using dragons with half a brain will easily break the ring and path to the core after which your base is toast.
That kind of ring is good against hog riders and literally nothing else. Even th 8 balloons from the bottom would wipe half your towers down there.

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Precisely... I'd use two-four dragons on the outside, break the ring, then rage and heal remaining dragons to the core.
Easy two star.

Move the outer wall in a little closer so the drags would be hit right away by the AD's

Any attack logs or replays to watcj? I plan on trying this next war.

So I ended up getting attacked twice in the last war. First attack for 0-stars and the second attack for 1-star. The second attack was a decent attack and test of the base but neither were good enough to bother going through all the trouble of posting replays. I have some screenshots of the results and army compositions though and I will explain what happened.

First Attack:

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The guy launched lvl 4 giants in two groups at the top left side of the base. He raged them and one group punched through the wall first so they regrouped and all got hit by the giant bomb (perfect placement :D). The giants then started heading south along the defensive ring and my dragon and archers in the clan castle came out. They made quick work of the giants. He then launched a lvl 2 dragon and some archers in his clan castle but my lvl 3 dragon and archers took them out. He launched another group of giants and a couple healers but my dragon took out the healers. He then launched a couple wizards which finally took out my dragon. The remaining giants went around the defensive ring up top and were taken out by the giant bomb on the top right. He then launched two dragons where the last giants died. One dragon was shot down by the air defenses when it turned sideways to go around the ring. The other dragon survived and proceeded around the ring but ran out of time before getting 50%.


Second Attack:

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This attack was much better executed. He launched balloons all around the entire base with a few groups concentrated on the archer towers. They took out all of the southern defenses but the balloons up top got hit with the air defenses so they only took out about half the defenses up there. He then followed up the balloons with wizards all along the bottom of the base. The wizards though pretty much all went around the ring with only a couple at a time pealing off and heading to the core. When they got there the teslas and barb king where able to handle them. In the end the wizards were able to take out the entire ring but there were only a couple left by that point and were also taken out by the teslas.

So basically the design worked exactly as planned. SUCCESS! :D:D:D

Still waiting to see what happens though against mass drag and hogs. That will be the true test.

Not sure if anyone's realized, but isn't this a HoLoWiWi playground? Loons for defense ring, hogs straight to the core. Wizards, Witch to clean up and take out Heroes and CC.