Dragontear: TH8 Anti-Dragon, Anti-Hog war base

Between late stage th7 and th8 I've been in 20-30 wars. I've been attacked 3 times by hogs and all the rest have been mass dragon. I haven't been attacked by anything else. As a result I've set out to create a base to handle those two types of attacks at the expense of others.

Here are the attributes of anti-dragon, anti-hog bases I set out to maximize:

Anti-Dragon:
- Centralized air defenses around town-hall
- A moat to route dragons around town hall and air defenses

Anti-Hog:
- Hog Ring
- Unlurable clan castle

Here is the design I came with, it's called Dragontear.


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It's still a work in progress. In particular the outside archer tower on the right needs to go somewhere. I wanted to show the initial draft though to you all to start getting some feedback.

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Originally Posted by qdoubleu

Between late stage th7 and th8 I've been in 20-30 wars. I've been attacked 3 times by hogs and all the rest have been mass dragon. I haven't been attacked by anything else. As a result I've set out to create a base to handle those two types of attacks at the expense of others.

Here are the attributes of anti-dragon, anti-hog bases I set out to maximize:

Anti-Dragon:
- Centralized air defenses around town-hall
- A moat to route dragons around town hall and air defenses

Anti-Hog:
- Hog Ring
- Unlurable clan castle

Here is the design I came with, it's called Dragontear.


Attachment 58763

It's still a work in progress. In particular the outside archer tower on the right needs to go somewhere. I wanted to show the initial draft though to you all to start getting some feedback.

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So...
Anti-dragon
Anti-Hog
Susceptible to BArch attacks?

I'm also hoping that the barb king is far enough in the middle to not suck the dragons into the core.

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Originally Posted by Brenn

So...
Anti-dragon
Anti-Hog
Susceptible to BArch attacks?

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Please re-read the first paragraph of my initial post.

That said I think it would be non-trivial to get more than one-star on this base with barch but, certainly easier than your average th8 base. The moat to route dragons/hogs around the base I imagine would work somewhat for barch as well.

I'll just say that I've been attacked so many times by dragons and hogs that I would welcome a 2 or 3 star from another army composition just to see something new in clan wars.

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Originally Posted by qdoubleu

Please re-read the first paragraph of my initial post.

That said I think it would be non-trivial to get more than one-star on this base with barch but, certainly easier than your average th8 base. The moat to route dragons/hogs around the base I imagine would work somewhat for barch as well.

I'll just say that I've been attacked so many times by dragons and hogs that I would welcome a 2 or 3 star from another army composition just to see something new in clan wars.

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Sorry. Didn't see that.

Anyways, I don't feel like it would be great against dragons. The air defenses (I may be wrong on this) look like, on the bottom and to a lesser extent the sides, they'd be too far in to hit dragons before the dragons are done with the outer ring, in which case they'd have no distractions before going for the air defenses.

Woah, that is one unorthodox base. Replays would be nice.

It would be really awesome if you could post some defense logs/replays or show/explain dragons and hogs ai on your base.
From what i see, you are trying to make hogs and dragons go around the base before they reach the core.
i'd really like to see the range of AD's.
From what i see,they be in range of the defense ring which are the tankiest of buildings in the game.You'd really want buildings like storages ,cc,king etc to give AD's max time to shoot dragons.

I agree with the above posters, the AD's are too far in and completely out of range to hit dragons. Only time they would hit them is when the drags are near the center and by that point they will clean you. Also have to be careful of BK and CC pulling the drags in.

Time may be your advantage however if the drags just ride the outer ring and stay away from the core.

Definitely +1 for an original design. Very unorthodox and bound to confuse some attackers. I'd be curious to see some war replays/logs as well with this base.

Definitely has me curious.Share those replays once you have some

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Originally Posted by Brenn

Sorry. Didn't see that.

Anyways, I don't feel like it would be great against dragons. The air defenses (I may be wrong on this) look like, on the bottom and to a lesser extent the sides, they'd be too far in to hit dragons before the dragons are done with the outer ring, in which case they'd have no distractions before going for the air defenses.

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The air defenses are in range to shoot dragons on the top half of the ring but yeah not the bottom. My hope is that if the dragons do move around the ring they will have a large distance to travel between each air defensive structure so hopefully they can do some decent damage before moving into the core. Half the time they will also be shot by the air defenses.

I think probably the best attack against this base is to spread dragons out in a line along a large section of the ring. Then once they take that section out the middle dragons will head towards the core. Hopefully the middle dragons will be few enough that the center air defenses and bombs can handle them. Most people though spam their dragons in one spot and I think attackers would be more inclined to do that with this base since pretty much the entire playing field is occupied.