How does the attack Q work with abandoned bases?

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August 14th, 2014
Terraist

How does the attack Q work with abandoned bases?

I've been playing for nearly 2 years and this is something I really know little about, but today I had a base come up which made me question how it works.

I am a TH10 currently in C1 and I came across an abandoned base, or at least it looked abandoned. There was 775k of each available and 5100de. Storages were over half full and collectors were obviously completely full. Both xbows and IT were empty and the TH was out in a corner. I figured YES, lucky day even though the collectors were within the walls with the other defences!

So, I drop 10 loons to break into the base and here is the funny thing... all of the air mines were still there and had not been triggered. Long story short I used 20 loons and 70 minions with 4 spells and got 1 million gold/lix and only 1400de. I also used my heroes and some of the ground traps were still active!

After the battle I looked at the players stats and it is obvious s/he has not been active on CoC for a VERY long time. Gem box, 40 obstacles on the base, NO stats for CW which means they have not been playing since before CW most likely. They had decent HH, GG and other stats though.

So... How does a base go that long in in the search Q with half full storages and full collectors yet no one raiding it to deplete everything? The simply fact that the traps were still there is the biggest head scratcher for me. Unless they log in every now and then just to reset their traps this makes no sense to me.

Anyone want to explain??
August 14th, 2014
Lloopy14

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Originally Posted by Terraist

I've been playing for nearly 2 years and this is something I really know little about, but today I had a base come up which made me question how it works.

I am a TH10 currently in C1 and I came across an abandoned base, or at least it looked abandoned. There was 775k of each available and 5100de. Storages were over half full and collectors were obviously completely full. Both xbows and IT were empty and the TH was out in a corner. I figured YES, lucky day even though the collectors were within the walls with the other defences!

So, I drop 10 loons to break into the base and here is the funny thing... all of the air mines were still there and had not been triggered. Long story short I used 20 loons and 70 minions with 4 spells and got 1 million gold/lix and only 1400de. I also used my heroes and some of the ground traps were still active!

After the battle I looked at the players stats and it is obvious s/he has not been active on CoC for a VERY long time. Gem box, 40 obstacles on the base, NO stats for CW which means they have not been playing since before CW most likely. They had decent HH, GG and other stats though.

So... How does a base go that long in in the search Q with half full storages and full collectors yet no one raiding it to deplete everything? The simply fact that the traps were still there is the biggest head scratcher for me. Unless they log in every now and then just to reset their traps this makes no sense to me.

Anyone want to explain??

Gem box could have been new
Posibly they didnt remove their obstacles ... So many people dont seem to
Possibly never participated in wars... Ive clan members that havent - or possibly they havent won any.
If the collectors were outside it could have. Been barched...
You said some of the traps were still active - perhaps people attacked from a different part id the base?

What I'm trying to say is that possibly its not that old a base
August 14th, 2014
Ahorer

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Originally Posted by Lloopy14

Gem box could have been new
Posibly they didnt remove their obstacles ... So many people dont seem to
Possibly never participated in wars... Ive clan members that havent - or possibly they havent won any.
If the collectors were outside it could have. Been barched...
You said some of the traps were still active - perhaps people attacked from a different part id the base?

What I'm trying to say is that possibly its not that old a base

Usually you get a hard attacj when you have half of your storages filled
August 14th, 2014
Smalls

No one will ever know except for supercell how that base sat there for that long and still had traps.

But here's a viable theory. SuperCell pushes inactive bases way back in the MM process but doesn't remove them. So what probably happened is that base was buried forever and not found until you hit the 1 in 1 million shot of it showing up.
August 14th, 2014
Coathanger

If you are able to post pictures of the raid, the players achievements or the name and clan the player is in, I would think it would be fairly easy to see what happened.

With the information provided it looks like you found a base of someone who had recently come off of shield while their storages were next to capped. Could also be a defensive player. Clearing obstacles are not a requirement and plenty of people consider gem boxes decorations.
August 14th, 2014
playitlikegabo

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Originally Posted by Smalls

SuperCell pushes inactive bases way back in the MM process but doesn't remove them. So what probably happened is that base was buried forever and not found until you hit the 1 in 1 million shot of it showing up.

I think this might have happened here.
August 14th, 2014
Coathanger

A couple other conditions need to be stressed as they are very relevant.

1) town hall was in the corner and open to snipers
2) mines were inside the walls

Both of these can leave the base regularly shielded without being raided for quite some time.
August 14th, 2014
Terraist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloopy14

Gem box could have been new
Posibly they didnt remove their obstacles ... So many people dont seem to
Possibly never participated in wars... Ive clan members that havent - or possibly they havent won any.
If the collectors were outside it could have. Been barched...
You said some of the traps were still active - perhaps people attacked from a different part id the base?

What I'm trying to say is that possibly its not that old a base

Possible.... but almost 99.99% not likely, not even going to comment on what you have said.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

If you are able to post pictures of the raid, the players achievements or the name and clan the player is in, I would think it would be fairly easy to see what happened.

With the information provided it looks like you found a base of someone who had recently come off of shield while their storages were next to capped. Could also be a defensive player. Clearing obstacles are not a requirement and plenty of people consider gem boxes decorations.

Ummmm, no. This player had no clan and a blank shield. Plus, all the other stuff that I had mentioned. As for the obstacles and gem box, of course I know that but when you combine it with the other things mentioned it doesn't add up. Defensive players would keep there IT and X-bows loaded.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

A couple other conditions need to be stressed as they are very relevant.

1) town hall was in the corner and open to snipers
2) mines were inside the walls

Both of these can leave the base regularly shielded without being raided for quite some time.

You really think anyone is going to pass up the chance to get even some of the 1.5 million in loot?! Even barch would get you 300-500k just from getting the few outside mines and the ones behind the first layer of walls. This also doesn't take into account the few traps that were still not triggered from either ground troops or air troops.

Too bad, I honestly thought there would be a bit better info available that this. Thanks everyone for responding though.
August 14th, 2014
Coathanger

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Originally Posted by Terraist

You really think anyone is going to pass up the chance to get even some of the 1.5 million in loot?! Even barch would get you 300-500k just from getting the few outside mines and the ones behind the first layer of walls. This also doesn't take into account the few traps that were still not triggered from either ground troops or air troops.

Too bad, I honestly thought there would be a bit better info available that this. Thanks everyone for responding though.

Actually I do think there are reasonable scenarios that would lead to people ignoring protected collectors in lieu of a town hall snipe. This could easily be lower level town halls playing out of their league. I myself have passed up offerings like this if I know my army will not take much of the loot.

The traps left over could be from an attack on the opposing side of the base or from previous all air or all ground raids.
Empty x-bows happen in 192 seconds of firing and inferno towers in half that time. This could happen in 1 or two assaults while still leaving traps in play.

Without a way for people to verify the information presented about this village, without screen shots and not being able to monitor the village it is very difficult to say with certainty that this village was truly a long term inactive rather than a short term one who was lucky to get sniped a few times an let his collectors fill.

♥Furthermore him not being in a clan explains why he does not possess any clan wars stats.

there was a recent post, like last week recent. Of a guy with full collectors on the outside of his village who was sniped twice in a row without having his collectors touched. Ill quote it in this post.

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Originally Posted by BigRuss

I guess I'm just lucky to get these two free shields.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2607a81.png

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psc818d52d.png
August 14th, 2014
Lloopy14

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Originally Posted by Ahorer

Usually you get a hard attacj when you have half of your storages filled

Usually... it depends on the army people have when the base is presented. In C1 I should imagine that any exposed TH is sniped with people trying to get to masters. If you can take some of the rest of the loot by barch its a bonus

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Originally Posted by Terraist

Possible.... but almost 99.99% not likely, not even going to comment on what you have said.

Charming.
August 14th, 2014
hastur

What cup level did you find it at? I've found a couple of perplexing ones around Crystal, including one kind of similar to what you mention here, i.e. traps on a dead base. Bear in mind that it doesn't necessarily take a long time for xbows and infernos to die, one or two attacks can be enough; or maybe even the player never filled them up before quitting. And even if a base gets smashed somewhat, it doesn't mean all the traps are triggered. Anyway, I'm prtty sure I do recall hitting a similar, really obviously old base like you describe, and being surprised to find a couple of air traps still alive in the core - I guess they just got hit by ground attackers / TH sniped.