Idea for DISCOURAGING clan hoppers, while keeping the integrity of the game intact

DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a suggestion to allow people to just attack whoever/whenever, as there is another thread currently suggesting that. Please be mindful of the difference.

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NEW: This thread has evolved to spawn two ideas, and this post edited to reflect those ideas.

IDEA #1 - "Revenge Attack on Hoppers"
IDEA #2 - "Donated Troops Remain In Clan"

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IDEA #1

Intention: to provide a clan with a link to the player who left so that a single clan member may follow them to their village for a revenge attack.

Restrictions/settings for the idea:

1) Leader and/ or co-leaders are the only ones who can assign the clan member who will attack the hopper.
2) The hopper may only be attacked ONCE.
3) The hopper may not be targeted by more than ONE player from the clan.
4) Attacker must be within range of hopper. (e.g. if hopper is Town Hall lvl 5, attacker cannot be higher than Town Hall lvl 5)
5) No other clan members will be able to attack the hopper.
6) If hopper defends against the clan member's attack then they keep the donated troops, regardless of whether or not the troops are killed in the attack. If the hopper does not defend, they will be award one revenge attack against the clan member. If they obtain at least one star in the attack then they keep the donated troops, regardless of whether the donated troops are killed in the attack.

These restrictions provide the clan the ability to get "justice" for someone hopping their clan, while at the same time protecting the hopper from abuse from the clan.

It is a way to protect integrity of the game, while adding an additional/potentially fun element to it.

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IDEA #2

Intention: to provide clans another level of protection against hoppers (i.e. "troop snatchers")

Restrictions/settings for the idea:

1) "Anyone Can Join" clans remain inclusive for donations. Meaning, anyone can join these clans and keep any troops that are donated to them when they leave the clan. This protects clans that are set up to donate troops for XP and protects "hoppers" who only want to join clans for the extra troops
2) "Invite Only" clans remain exclusive for donations. Meaning, if players join these clans they may not keep any troops that are donated to them when they leave the clan. This protects clans that donate troops for the purposes of those troops being used to build up the clan. Individual player raids count toward building up the clan because as a player raids and gains resources they upgrade their village, which in turns makes them stronger in clan wars.
3) Donated troops return to the donator into a queue. Meaning, if a person with donated troops leaves the clan the donated troops return to the person who donated them. If their army camps are full, or if they are currently training troops for their army camps, then the troops that were donated go into a queue. When the army camp becomes empty those troops are automatically deposited into the person's army camp.

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Thanks for reading.

I just feel like this would just be bullying. Whats the big problem with hoppers anyways? No one said you had to donate to them when they came in and maybe your clan just wasn't what they wanted? You cant judge a clan by its cover! I honestly think there are a lot of more important things that need to be added then an anti-hopper system, but thats my opinion we're all entitled to our own.

Besides, there are MANY ways you can fix hopper problems within your clan. Such as: setting your clan to invite only so you can screen them before the come in, have a rule that newbies cant request until they donate(if they do anyways BOOT) or a certain amount or a certain time in the clan, checking their friend in need achievement normally just solves all hopper problems.

But seriously I like hoppers, free xp, I can dump unwanted troops if im changing my army tactics instead of on gobs, you can have a lil fun with em if you know what i mean!

Let the hoppers hop!

For clans who want the setting to remain open to anyone who joins it is convenient. Not everyone is on COC 24/7. There are stretches of time when leaders/co-leaders can't get to join requests and the person may move on.

I disagree that this is bullying. It's why I included all of those restrictions. I honestly don't see how you came to that conclusion unless you are just someone who likes to hop with impunity.

FWIW, I'm not saying "ban" hopping. I'm just saying make it a little more expensive for the hoppers. At the very least it makes them use up the troops they just stole from the clan members to defend their village. ♥♥♥-for-tat.

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Originally Posted by AnonyJoe

For clans who want the setting to remain open to anyone who joins it is convenient. Not everyone is on COC 24/7. There are stretches of time when leaders/co-leaders can't get to join requests and the person may move on.

I disagree that this is bullying. It's why I included all of those restrictions. I honestly don't see how you came to that conclusion unless you are just someone who likes to hop with impunity.

FWIW, I'm not saying "ban" hopping. I'm just saying make it a little more expensive for the hoppers. At the very least it makes them use up the troops they just stole from the clan members to defend their village. ♥♥♥-for-tat.

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I honestly like the idea of troops staying with the clan! For instance somebody joins your clan gets troops and leaves they lose the troops you gave them! Troops belong to that clan! Also having another way for people to fill their clan castles without being in a clan would be a real help!!!! Not everyone wants to be in a clan so that's why there are so many clan hoppers!

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Originally Posted by Street3

I honestly like the idea of troops staying with the clan! For instance somebody joins your clan gets troops and leaves they lose the troops you gave them! Troops belong to that clan! Also having another way for people to fill their clan castles without being in a clan would be a real help!!!! Not everyone wants to be in a clan so that's why there are so many clan hoppers!

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That's a good idea too, but it may conflict with troops that are already being trained or in the army camps of the clan members who donated to the person that left.

Plus, I kinda like the idea of a clan member being assigned to exact a little punishment and get justice for the clan. It's no different than random village raids except that the person is targeted specifically that one time.

Im confident in saying that this will never be implemented.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Im confident in saying that this will never be implemented.

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If it's not then so be it. It's only an idea.

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Originally Posted by AnonyJoe

I disagree that this is bullying. It's why I included all of those restrictions. I honestly don't see how you came to that conclusion

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Anyone who is immature who is mad over the fact you left their clan FOR ANY REASON YOU HAVE, will have the ability to troll you. Thats bullying bud! And sc will NEVER fly with that.

Make it cost a certain amount of gold to join a clan. Only people that want in to stay or try it out will be willing to put in then.

I used to think along the same lines as you when I started out playing, but the longer I played the more I realised, these measures are entirely unnecessary.

Instead of penalising a hopper for leaving after receiving troops maybe you could have some clan policies that helps reduces these things like:

• Newcomers must donate before requesting troops (otherwise they get the boot)
• Don't donate expensive troops to newcomers (have a probation period)
• Restrict the type of donations that newcomers can receive

Or

Just accept the extra XP that you are given for donating and don't care about the few hundred or thousand virtual currency that you used to donate those troops. (I would go with this option)