Chinese clans dumping loads of elixir on clan wars...

Has anyone else noticed it?

Whenever my clan draws EU or US clans its usually a good mix and a close match one way or another. However we've started to draw these Chinese clans who literally dump between 300-500k on their attacks and unless you do the same they defend and win with ease. I find myself looking down through their bases and even their lower one's are strong. Kinda frustrating drawing against these guys as we have a few kids and inactives and we want to play people of a similar standard...

I'm an American with a TH8. I spend that much in elixir with my war army. 10 level 3 dragons and my rage spells.

It has nothing to do with nationality but a desire to win. Obviously you don't have the same drive.

We have booted people for using goblins in their war army and got two stars in an attack. We did it because we want 3 stars and expect everyone to field the most powerful army that they can.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Has anyone else noticed it?

Kinda frustrating drawing against these guys as we have a few kids and inactives and we want to play people of a similar standard...

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Easy...kick inactives! Less is more!

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Originally Posted by Warasin

I'm an American with a TH8. I spend that much in elixir with my war army. 10 level 3 dragons and my rage spells.

It has nothing to do with nationality but a desire to win. Obviously you don't have the same drive.

We have booted people for using goblins in their war army and got two stars in an attack. We did it because we want 3 stars and expect everyone to field the most powerful army that they can.

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Well said.

If you don't put in the same amount of effort, then how do you expect to win?

We drawed our last 2 wars and both were against chinese clans. It was so frustating and you know what: ALL their attacks were dragons with rage/healing spells in BOTH wars. We still managed to draw them and most of us used hogs while few of us used only dragons.
So in a way we won because we used less elixir than them. Draw was only on paper.

As people above me already said: kick your inactives. You can't win if you don't put enough effort. Chinese play with strategy and passion.

The problem is we don't want to be drawn against people putting that amount in. Is there no way the match making system can do a league style like they do with bronze, silver, gold, crystal,etc Surely the point is to be drawn against people of a similar standard to your own clan? Its pointless a casual clan like us being drawn against a clan that is built purely for Clan Wars, we don't stand a chance. I don't want to boot inactive friends or family and abandon all morals, I would just rather we face people of a similar standard.

Also I'm not saying its based just on nationality but it seems more prevalent with Chinese clans. This is something like the third one we've faced now who stroll to victory doubling our points score. When we play EU/US its not like that. Is time of queuing anything to go by?

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Originally Posted by croc007

It was so frustating and you know what: ALL their attacks were dragons with rage/healing spells in BOTH wars.

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Exactly what happens to us. Sometimes a maxed balloon attack with rage spells. Anti air still cannot cope with that.

I know it's frustating, but your problem is clan management not match making.
What we usually do with inactive friends is that we kick them and send them an invite. When they are active again they can always join us back.
On a side note, we did win against a chinese clan after 2 draws against them with a BIG margin. Score was like 70-11, i guess they were inactives this time.

They're strong maybe because they are really Active enough to constantly upgrade their bases, and kick inactive people who haven't got into a league/donated troops. That's what my clan does.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

The problem is we don't want to be drawn against people putting that amount in. Is there no way the match making system can do a league style like they do with bronze, silver, gold, crystal,etc Surely the point is to be drawn against people of a similar standard to your own clan? Its pointless a casual clan like us being drawn against a clan that is built purely for Clan Wars, we don't stand a chance. I don't want to boot inactive friends or family and abandon all morals, I would just rather we face people of a similar standard.

Also I'm not saying its based just on nationality but it seems more prevalent with Chinese clans. This is something like the third one we've faced now who stroll to victory doubling our points score. When we play EU/US its not like that. Is time of queuing anything to go by?

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If you don't want to kick inactives or spend much elixir on war army, why war at all then? Maybe you would have more fun just being a casual farming clan.

These are all fair replies, thank you for contributing.

We do Clan Wars because some of us enjoy it, unfortunately that means we have to commit the whole clan to it( we can't just name 5-10 players we want in the war) and the handful of us, some of whom have two accounts, are having to compensate for peoples family members and friends. Its just a difficult split - some are still active they just don't have an interest in it, some of us do. There shouldn't have to be an attitude of " we want to clan war therefore we're kicking you all so we win", that seems silly. It would be far better if there was a league system or you could name a roster for attacks. Are they working on anything like that?

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

These are all fair replies, thank you for contributing.

We do Clan Wars because some of us enjoy it, unfortunately that means we have to commit the whole clan to it( we can't just name 5-10 players we want in the war) and the handful of us, some of whom have two accounts, are having to compensate for peoples family members and friends. Its just a difficult split - some are still active they just don't have an interest in it, some of us do. There shouldn't have to be an attitude of " we want to clan war therefore we're kicking you all so we win", that seems silly. It would be far better if there was a league system or you could name a roster for attacks. Are they working on anything like that?

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Clans spending 300-500k elixir on one attack isn't a valid reason. I'm Chinese and I spend about 500K elixir and 1K DE on both my war attacks. It depends on how much you want to win. If you have inactives, take the people that want to war and make a new clan.

Agreeing with most that have replied to this.

If only half or so of your clan want to war and that half isnt willing to spend elixir on winning army then your clan is never going to win a war nor should it. How in the world can SC code the game to match you against other clans that only want give a so so effort? Not going to happen.

we war back to back and i usually either mass hog (1.5k DE), mass dragons (400k elixer), or gowipe (450 DE, 300K elixer). as the highest research in my clan i also provide ALL the defense wizards. so thats like 70 wizards I make every 2 days to donate for the war. and of course during the war itself i will also donate for attacks probably equal to the 70 wizards population of high quality units.

my clan is full of people like me who just want to do whatever it takes to win. if your clan isn't prepared to do that then how could you possibly expect to win wars against people who are. Although to be fair my almost max th8 the only thing I need is gold to finish my walls, so elixer doesn't hurt me and unless I hog twice (rare) I will profit in DE from winning.

but one thing you can try is since it always takes the top 10/15/etc people for the war (trophies order) you can tell your inactive friends to just log in and tank their trophies to sub 200. it takes like 5 minutes tops since all they have to do is drop a barb and quit the fight over and over. if they arent even willing to do that then just kick them since obviously they aren't interested in playing the game anymore. and if you dont know these inactives in RL then I'm not sure what the big deal is in kicking a random person who doesn't play anymore.

O_o
my clan wars back to back, and we beat those asian clans all the time...

also when u talk expenses.... lol...

gowiwi x2 atks de leaks from me like i drank way too much vodka...

if ur not prepared to go all out, stop warring.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

These are all fair replies, thank you for contributing.

We do Clan Wars because some of us enjoy it, unfortunately that means we have to commit the whole clan to it( we can't just name 5-10 players we want in the war) and the handful of us, some of whom have two accounts, are having to compensate for peoples family members and friends. Its just a difficult split - some are still active they just don't have an interest in it, some of us do. There shouldn't have to be an attitude of " we want to clan war therefore we're kicking you all so we win", that seems silly. It would be far better if there was a league system or you could name a roster for attacks. Are they working on anything like that?

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The solution is that your clan needs to have rules and standards. If you have a laid back, do what you want, this is is a democracy clan then that's what you're going to get. You give an inch they will take a mile.

If your clan has rules and standards. 1. We do Clan wars this many times a week, you need to use both attacks. 2. Your donation ratio needs to be this 3. You need to be active.... or you will be kicked. You will attract people like me who will spend 400k elixir or 1k DE just to win, improve my attacking skills, and just to get rid of it. To be honest those who do want to do Clan wars in your clan deserve better. Let those others who just want to live off their collectors or whatever go to another clan that fully embrace it.

If you push the war button and don't everything in your power to win, then you deserve to lose.

i know how you feel. i used to run a clan for several months that was made up of some family members and friends and their family members. im very competitive so when we warred i also provided the drags and wizards for the clan castles and spent an easy 400k elixir on my attacks. we won some and lost some but it was very frustrating that we had some people not attacking or just sucking really bad on attacks. bottom line is its never gonna be fair for those in the clan that give it their all. in the end we took all the members and started a new clan and i gave lead to another member so i didn't have to deal with all that ♥♥♥♥ anymore. playing with family and friends is fun but if your competitive its not fun for you. and it has nothing to do with chinese clans!

Every clan that wants to win has to spend loads of elixir/de to win. To create a thread stating Chinese clans as the only ones to do so is just wrong. I'm normally pretty positive in my posts but I don't see the purpose of this thread.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Has anyone else noticed it?

Whenever my clan draws EU or US clans its usually a good mix and a close match one way or another. However we've started to draw these Chinese clans who literally dump between 300-500k on their attacks and unless you do the same they defend and win with ease. I find myself looking down through their bases and even their lower one's are strong. Kinda frustrating drawing against these guys as we have a few kids and inactives and we want to play people of a similar standard...

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You expect to be matched up with other clans who have children and inactive in them? How the hell would supercell be able to even do that? Lol war attacks should be your BEST armies, don't cry that another clan is actually using it's BEST and you're not. That's you're problem, fight with your best armies or be prepared to lose.

Create a sub clan and place all your inactives, low levels and people that don't want to war there. They can come back after the war has been declared.

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Originally Posted by Kementarri

You expect to be matched up with other clans who have children and inactive in them? How the hell would supercell be able to even do that? Lol war attacks should be your BEST armies, don't cry that another clan is actually using it's BEST and you're not. That's you're problem, fight with your best armies or be prepared to lose.

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No, I expect them to make a league style proper match making system, not just dump everyone in the same category.
If Clan A wins 10 wars in a row they should be in a top league, they are playing amazing and deserve to compete against the best. If clan B loses 10 in a row why are they being matched against clan A? They don't stand a hope in hell. Its not just down to how much people dump in terms of elixir and DE also, the top battles are very tactical. Its nothing to do with clans who have children, why can't they operate on a results basis?

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Originally Posted by BigPapiSolis

Every clan that wants to win has to spend loads of elixir/de to win. To create a thread stating Chinese clans as the only ones to do so is just wrong. I'm normally pretty positive in my posts but I don't see the purpose of this thread.

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From the experiences of my clan. We've played a bunch of them who spend loads and we've played a bunch of EU/US clans who haven't, thats the trend i've seen and wondered if anyone else had similar experiences. People grown as they know we are in for a smashing when we draw a Chinese clan. Its not a negative aspect one way or another its just an observation so don't feel bad about it. My main gripe is being consistently thrown in the same bucket as the top clans who take warring more seriously than most, it might be they happen to all be Chinese because of the time we are matchmaking at the moment.

Kick the kids and inactives.

As a Chinese person who lives in America, i remember when I last went to China that the video games business is definitely growing and some people are very hardcore.

My clan is American, made up exclusively of real life family and friends. We do what is necessary to win, regardless of how expensive an army is. That's why we've only lost once. It's clan war, not a contest to see who can attack with the cheapest army and get away with it.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Has anyone else noticed it?

Whenever my clan draws EU or US clans its usually a good mix and a close match one way or another. However we've started to draw these Chinese clans who literally dump between 300-500k on their attacks and unless you do the same they defend and win with ease. I find myself looking down through their bases and even their lower one's are strong. Kinda frustrating drawing against these guys as we have a few kids and inactives and we want to play people of a similar standard...

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The problem I run into with my clan is not that we have inactives, but a lot of range in our town hall levels, from one TH-9 to several TH-8's, a few 7's and 6's and even a 5,. I'm not going to kick out active members just because their th is lower than mine, but we get matched up with some chinese clan where the lowest th is a 7 and then my lower guys can't compete. People want to say don't complain about the matchmaking, but quite frankly it sucks. I've got some kids, including 2 of my own, who are younger and it's frustrating them when they can't compete. I've gotten to the point to where it's one war every two weeks now and possibly going to once a month. Half the clan wants to do wars but myself and my leaders are going to try and do a better job to manage the clan and the wars, which is difficult because I'm not the guy who lives on my phone or tablet all day, I have a job and a family that takes precedent.

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Originally Posted by sithhappens44142

The problem I run into with my clan is not that we have inactives, but a lot of range in our town hall levels, from one TH-9 to several TH-8's, a few 7's and 6's and even a 5,. I'm not going to kick out active members just because their th is lower than mine, but we get matched up with some chinese clan where the lowest th is a 7 and then my lower guys can't compete. People want to say don't complain about the matchmaking, but quite frankly it sucks. I've got some kids, including 2 of my own, who are younger and it's frustrating them when they can't compete. I've gotten to the point to where it's one war every two weeks now and possibly going to once a month. Half the clan wants to do wars but myself and my leaders are going to try and do a better job to manage the clan and the wars, which is difficult because I'm not the guy who lives on my phone or tablet all day, I have a job and a family that takes precedent.

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I feel your pain brother. The system really does suck. Its better than nothing but it cannot be that hard to implement a league system and have overall clan ranks. Its the absolute obvious direction due to the sheer number of people who play this game.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

I feel your pain brother. The system really does suck. Its better than nothing but it cannot be that hard to implement a league system and have overall clan ranks. Its the absolute obvious direction due to the sheer number of people who play this game.

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The system doesn't suck. The system rewards the well managed clan of active players. What has been evident with all of the gripes on these forums is that there are a lot of poorly managed clans. There is a reason Clan Wars is an optional part of the game. No one forces you to take your clan to war. Actions in war does not affect your trophy level or your shield. You want to go to war but a majority of your clan does not. This is not a Supercell issue, this is your clan's issue.

You assume that a clan ranking system or a league system will ease your pain. What you have not factored in is how many clans come and go. Clans have no permanence unlike a village. You can still be matched against a clan that is full of dedicated players who were unhappy with their previous clan. A league system will also favor clans that are more active in war, their rank will climb faster than clans that don't war as often. This does not mean that clans that don't war as often aren't serious about clan war. Supercell has enough issues with match making without trying to add another criteria to the process.

We lost 7 of our last 10 clanwars to those chinese clans...



and now we are stock at 43 wins..
and new clan war begins with another chinese clan......

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

The problem is we don't want to be drawn against people putting that amount in.

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So you only want to war against people who will only half a$$ it?

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Is there no way the match making system can do a league style like they do with bronze, silver, gold, crystal,etc

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Cups can be VERY easily manipulated by dropping trophies or sniping th, so using trophies is a horrible way to mitigate your problem.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Its pointless a casual clan like us being drawn against a clan that is built purely for Clan Wars, we don't stand a chance.

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Casual clan shouldn't go to war. If you go up against a clan where everybody raids with barbs and archers, are you going to come back and complain because everybody on their side attacked twice while half of your casual players didn't raid? Then what? You want Supercell to match you against another clan that will also half a$$ it?

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

I don't want to boot inactive friends or family and abandon all morals, I would just rather we face people of a similar standard.

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Either create a temporary clan with your clannies that WANTS to go to war, then jump back afterwards, or kick and REINVITE the inactives after CW has initiated. This is what everybody does.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Also I'm not saying its based just on nationality but it seems more prevalent with Chinese clans.

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My clan consist of Americans, Canadians, Iraqi's, New Zealanders, Indonesians and British, and no one puts in a half a$$ effort. Everybody either builts dragon army, hogs (in the past), or golem/pekka/wizard/witch army. We have seen both balls to the wall efforts from American and Chinese clans, and half a$$ efforts from all cultures as well.

Lastly, if you think spending $500k on elixir is a lot, you guys are inefficient and may be nooby. Learn how to barch. Elixir is not scare. Many in my farming clan are barchers, and our elixir storage is always full at 6-8 million. Elixir is an unwanted commodity. Gold and DE are a much more sough after commodity.

Like everyone else stated, I agree.

Elixer is over flowing or your doing something wrong. If you don't go all out in war, don't expect to win or even be close. I usually build 11 drags, heal and rage spells... dump a lot of elix but usually get 700k+ gold after so I'm more than happy.

I like the matchmaking system, sometimes you get an easy opponent, sometimes a tough one and its fun. Don't wanted ranked matches to be super evenly matched, bad enough it takes 10-15 mins to find an equal opponent

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Originally Posted by m0stwanted

We lost 7 of our last 10 clanwars to those chinese clans...

and now we are stock at 43 wins..
and new clan war begins with another chinese clan......

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They are no joke. When I see those symbol looking things as names I know we're doomed.

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Originally Posted by Cereal

Like everyone else stated, I agree.

Elixer is over flowing or your doing something wrong. If you don't go all out in war, don't expect to win or even be close. I usually build 11 drags, heal and rage spells... dump a lot of elix but usually get 700k+ gold after so I'm more than happy.

I like the matchmaking system, sometimes you get an easy opponent, sometimes a tough one and its fun. Don't wanted ranked matches to be super evenly matched, bad enough it takes 10-15 mins to find an equal opponent

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For some of the kids getting the elixir is hard as they are casual, I have no problems getting it. I get why people are criticizing me I really do, but I can tell those people are experienced players who probably don't do a lot of casual gaming with kids. The message is generally " don't clan war if you can't all spend 500K + and follow strats", try enforcing that on 10 year olds who still enjoy the wars, its not possible. I don't want to face a half assed clan, I just want to face some with a similar track record as us where the battles are a lot closer. I have no problems losing, its when its all out stomping consistently against top clans. Enforcing some sort of skill cap is not unreasonable.

Braxbrah

Just out of curiosity how do you compose a war army? If you aren't using dragon zergs, gowipe or gowiwi what do you guys do?

The best solution as others have said is to use another clan to temporarily house the people who don't war. However that isn't going to help you win wars if your active players aren't producing the top armies possible.

I wish we could find more clans who are casual about the wars to fight. I don't care what their nationality is LOL

let them spend it, and just do better attacks!

we just had a war against a chinese clan with 41 wins, and we knew exactly how they would attack. dragon, dragon, dragon, and a little more dragon. it is exactly what they did, our bases were prepped for it, and we won a close one 69-66. all but three of their attacks were mass dragons, the others being 2 hog attacks and one balloonian.

just be smart, attack as a team and you'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by Warasin

Braxbrah

Just out of curiosity how do you compose a war army? If you aren't using dragon zergs, gowipe or gowiwi what do you guys do?

The best solution as others have said is to use another clan to temporarily house the people who don't war. However that isn't going to help you win wars if your active players aren't producing the top armies possible.

I wish we could find more clans who are casual about the wars to fight. I don't care what their nationality is LOL

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We generally have our top guys attack their top guys. Of course some of our mid rank guys are youngsters around 8-10 years old and they simply don't comprehend instructions and go too high or too low wasting attacks. They also don't understand how to attack properly and the strength of certain units. There is nothing I or supercell can do about that, thats not where my frustration is.

I usually plan in advance and set my army for whatever their weakness is ( if I see anti air all on the outside I will take that out and fly dragons in) if their anti air is strong I will focus on building different units. I'm not by any means a great tactician but I can contribute regular stars in attacks. I focus more on getting stars around my level than getting 1 star off the higher dudes for the loot or blitzing the lowbies. We've been fairly even against the US/EU clans in recent months in win/loss. Its just the last month or so we've palyed 4/5 Chinese clans in a rowand been blown to oblivion lol.

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Originally Posted by Johnnysks

So you only want to war against people who will only half a$$ it?



Cups can be VERY easily manipulated by dropping trophies or sniping th, so using trophies is a horrible way to mitigate your problem.



Casual clan shouldn't go to war. If you go up against a clan where everybody raids with barbs and archers, are you going to come back and complain because everybody on their side attacked twice while half of your casual players didn't raid? Then what? You want Supercell to match you against another clan that will also half a$$ it?



Either create a temporary clan with your clannies that WANTS to go to war, then jump back afterwards, or kick and REINVITE the inactives after CW has initiated. This is what everybody does.



My clan consist of Americans, Canadians, Iraqi's, New Zealanders, Indonesians and British, and no one puts in a half a$$ effort. Everybody either builts dragon army, hogs (in the past), or golem/pekka/wizard/witch army. We have seen both balls to the wall efforts from American and Chinese clans, and half a$$ efforts from all cultures as well.

Lastly, if you think spending $500k on elixir is a lot, you guys are inefficient and may be nooby. Learn how to barch. Elixir is not scare. Many in my farming clan are barchers, and our elixir storage is always full at 6-8 million. Elixir is an unwanted commodity. Gold and DE are a much more sough after commodity.

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500k++ elixir is not a problem until u use hades dining table
i get wrecked pretty bad on elixir storage this day lost about 2 mil need to upgrade lab damn
i use barch for farming though mass drags for war(except when i know i am gonna lose giant healer on their low to get star for archievement)

usually i got 4 mil on storage elixir but now it is in past lol

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Of course some of our mid rank guys are youngsters around 8-10 years old

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There is your problem right there. You have a family clan with kids, so you are not likely to be competitive. You have to decide the values of your clan and manage accordingly. There is no training wheels cw league, and that sounds like what you're looking for. Your only solution to not getting blown to oblivion and getting demoralized would be to avoid clan war all together. COC may appeal to kids, but really once it gets competitive at the higher level it is just too complex and really more suited for teens and adults.

At the end of the day, it all depends on you (whether you are a leader or member). If your a leader, it's you who created and manage the clan. If your a member, you choose which clan you want to be in.


If you are in a clan with leader and members who don't put effort into the war, then don't complain about losing. If you care so about about winning a war, go to a clan with leader that manages the clan to win wars.


This is my experience. I have 2 accounts. Both clans are adults with family and friends, i.e. life outside of CoC.


For my 1st account, I'm the founder and now co-leader. We make sure everyone participates. We donate only witches, level 5+ wizards, level 3+ dragons into war clan castle for defense. We have ran into very tough opponents. We do have winning record: 10-7. I am satisfied with our results. In our loses, I know we gave our 100% and we came up short against better opponents. Nothing to complain and b*tch about.


On my 2nd account, I'm a member. This clan is 17-1 in war. I am still not sure why this clan does so well in war. I really want to replicate this success in my 1st account. The leader is not as active in war management. However, clan members only use their best units on attacks. TH7 and TH8 mainly use all dragons and all spells. And these guys use dragon for farming (which I disagree with). So they have a lot of experience with dragon attacks.


Note that both accounts do 1 war per week. I find some clans do 2-3 wars each week or continuous wars. To me, that is an issue. There is no time to farm and upgrade, plus being able to fund the war. Members do not participate; members do not use their best units; and war clan castle are not filled with best units.

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Originally Posted by Stiehl9s

If only half or so of your clan want to war and that half isnt willing to spend elixir on winning army then your clan is never going to win a war nor should it. How in the world can SC code the game to match you against other clans that only want give a so so effort? Not going to happen.

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Exactly.

I'm sorry, but this is an embarrassing thread.

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

I have no problems losing, its when its all out stomping consistently against top clans. Enforcing some sort of skill cap is not unreasonable.

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Yes, it is unreasonable. How would SC determine the "skill" level of an individual player? You are not facing "top" clans, you are facing clans with members that have upgrades (offensive and defensive) that hopefully come close to matching your own. If you want to participate in clan wars, expect your opponents to do everything they can to win. If it bothers you that you cannot get everyone in your clan excited about each clan war, then find a new clan!

Due to your clan make up and the choice to keep the young uns and inactives you wont be competitive against any well organized motivated clan. Nationality aside, there are clans that war for keeps and clans that casually make war. Since you choose to remain in the latter your options are limited. Here are few ideas from above that may help you.

1- create a "war free clan" where you can temporarily shuffle those that either dont want to war or will be inactive during war. Getting your poor attackers in there will be a struggle most likely cuz they seem to be the ones that want to war often.
2- do the leave and return trick for those that want to opt out of war. Hard to do with inactive members.
3- quit warring or do it much less frequently.
4- take the mindset that wars are for fun and experience only. Quit caring that yer getting blown out and just have fun with it. Really hard to do!

If your clan is carrying a lot of deadweight (sounds like yours is) it will hamstring the efforts of the team. We regularly beat good clans but we have 95%+ attacks used in all of our wars. Its the only way you can compete and hope to win.

Tough decisions to make for your clan. Wish you the best with them.

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Originally Posted by jk88cal

I find some clans do 2-3 wars each week or continuous wars. To me, that is an issue. There is no time to farm and upgrade, plus being able to fund the war. Members do not participate; members do not use their best units; and war clan castle are not filled with best units.

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My clan has around 35 members, and we war nonstop (zero downtime between wars). We average around 95% participation in wars, and nobody uses "lesser" troops if the win is in doubt. Funding two expensive attacks every 48 hours shouldn't be that difficult (maybe for guys that feel they have no option but to use pure dragons, but even then). We generally stock our war castles with high level wizards and archers, so cost is not a major issue there. We all think clan wars is fun (much more fun than just mindlessly farming), so we don't view it as a burden. All that said, we did form a second clan where people can go to take a break for whatever reason, though most of us just stay in the war clan all the time.

i spend 612k of elixir during war. everytime

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

My clan has around 35 members, and we war nonstop (zero downtime between wars). We average around 95% participation in wars, and nobody uses "lesser" troops if the win is in doubt. Funding two expensive attacks every 48 hours shouldn't be that difficult (maybe for guys that feel they have no option but to use pure dragons, but even then). We generally stock our war castles with high level wizards and archers, so cost is not a major issue there. We all think clan wars is fun (much more fun than just mindlessly farming), so we don't view it as a burden. All that said, we did form a second clan where people can go to take a break for whatever reason, though most of us just stay in the war clan all the time.

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I use level 5 Pekka and at 50000 each it adds up quick. Dont care as I want to win wars and anhilate enemy.
Yes Asian clans have great bases but use precision attack methods and you can 2 star them.
Our Game of Cups clan has many Champs who help us with castle troops and ideas on strategy.

i do spend 720k elixir for my two atk in clan war, thats not a problem , i'm still full with elixir all d time. we do back to back wars though ;) Coc is boring without clan wars :cool: specially i love that free DE i get

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

No, I expect them to make a league style proper match making system, not just dump everyone in the same category.
If Clan A wins 10 wars in a row they should be in a top league, they are playing amazing and deserve to compete against the best. If clan B loses 10 in a row why are they being matched against clan A? They don't stand a hope in hell. Its not just down to how much people dump in terms of elixir and DE also, the top battles are very tactical. Its nothing to do with clans who have children, why can't they operate on a results basis?

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This isn't exactly a perfect system either. Clan A could be losing 10 times in a row, but they are all very close wars going all out in their attacks against really good players. Clan B could be losing 10 times in a row because they don't have players that are as active or as good as other members. If those two get put up against each other, who wins?

This has really nothing to do with "chinese clans"... this is all "war clans"...

I consider a "war clan" to be a clan where there are penalties if you don't follow the rules. And not just rules around making sure you use both your attacks each war, but rules around donations, base setups, and attack methodologies (i.e. no goblins as someone mentioned earlier).

We, however, are not a "war clan", we are "a clan that wars". We war twice a week, and there's no rule about attacking requirements or base setups, however we have rules about being active.

With that said, it sounds like the OP's clan is "a clan that wars". Unfortunately, there's not really a distinguishable way for the matchup system to identify this... it's more of an "approach" to war and can't be measured by looking at all the levels of everything in your base.

As for us, we have a lot of folks who do whatever it takes to win. And using a tonne of elixer to get the job done is how it's going to be. (We're a mostly South Africa/UK/Aus clan with a few from the US/Canada, just to add that in)

It does suck to lose, and we've lost our share... in fact we ran into a clan in our most recent war that actually used ALL 80 of their attacks in a 40v40 war. It's the first time I've seen that personally. And yes, we got smoked - in fact they doubled our star total, however we gave up with 6 hours to go being behind 50 stars with only a possible 30-35 left to get. But we'll keep plugging along, and the current war we've just started actually looks promising!

Hammer

our last war we had 100% participation, 90/90 attacks used, this is a must if you want to win wars, using half your attacks wont win you wars against any nationality

We actually had this problem, so the first thing we did was everyone focused solely on upgrading Air Defense. Have not had this problem since. I certainly don't get dragooned anymore.

If someone uses dragons lvl 4 or not on my base, they will be extremely lucky to get a star out of me.

We faced a chinese clan, had most bases 2/3 starred with couple 1's and still lost, they brought gowiwi/ gowipe from their th9s every time.

Asian clans have bad bases but raid pretty well If u want to win all ur members need to ATTACK We beat a Korean clan 41-38 and they used 27 ATTACK and we use 26 so it's just clan strategy

maybe they have decided to WIN! They deserve to win after that elixir used