Chinese clans dumping loads of elixir on clan wars...

Like everyone else stated, I agree.

Elixer is over flowing or your doing something wrong. If you don't go all out in war, don't expect to win or even be close. I usually build 11 drags, heal and rage spells... dump a lot of elix but usually get 700k+ gold after so I'm more than happy.

I like the matchmaking system, sometimes you get an easy opponent, sometimes a tough one and its fun. Don't wanted ranked matches to be super evenly matched, bad enough it takes 10-15 mins to find an equal opponent

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Originally Posted by m0stwanted

We lost 7 of our last 10 clanwars to those chinese clans...

and now we are stock at 43 wins..
and new clan war begins with another chinese clan......

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They are no joke. When I see those symbol looking things as names I know we're doomed.

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Originally Posted by Cereal

Like everyone else stated, I agree.

Elixer is over flowing or your doing something wrong. If you don't go all out in war, don't expect to win or even be close. I usually build 11 drags, heal and rage spells... dump a lot of elix but usually get 700k+ gold after so I'm more than happy.

I like the matchmaking system, sometimes you get an easy opponent, sometimes a tough one and its fun. Don't wanted ranked matches to be super evenly matched, bad enough it takes 10-15 mins to find an equal opponent

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For some of the kids getting the elixir is hard as they are casual, I have no problems getting it. I get why people are criticizing me I really do, but I can tell those people are experienced players who probably don't do a lot of casual gaming with kids. The message is generally " don't clan war if you can't all spend 500K + and follow strats", try enforcing that on 10 year olds who still enjoy the wars, its not possible. I don't want to face a half assed clan, I just want to face some with a similar track record as us where the battles are a lot closer. I have no problems losing, its when its all out stomping consistently against top clans. Enforcing some sort of skill cap is not unreasonable.

Braxbrah

Just out of curiosity how do you compose a war army? If you aren't using dragon zergs, gowipe or gowiwi what do you guys do?

The best solution as others have said is to use another clan to temporarily house the people who don't war. However that isn't going to help you win wars if your active players aren't producing the top armies possible.

I wish we could find more clans who are casual about the wars to fight. I don't care what their nationality is LOL

let them spend it, and just do better attacks!

we just had a war against a chinese clan with 41 wins, and we knew exactly how they would attack. dragon, dragon, dragon, and a little more dragon. it is exactly what they did, our bases were prepped for it, and we won a close one 69-66. all but three of their attacks were mass dragons, the others being 2 hog attacks and one balloonian.

just be smart, attack as a team and you'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by Warasin

Braxbrah

Just out of curiosity how do you compose a war army? If you aren't using dragon zergs, gowipe or gowiwi what do you guys do?

The best solution as others have said is to use another clan to temporarily house the people who don't war. However that isn't going to help you win wars if your active players aren't producing the top armies possible.

I wish we could find more clans who are casual about the wars to fight. I don't care what their nationality is LOL

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We generally have our top guys attack their top guys. Of course some of our mid rank guys are youngsters around 8-10 years old and they simply don't comprehend instructions and go too high or too low wasting attacks. They also don't understand how to attack properly and the strength of certain units. There is nothing I or supercell can do about that, thats not where my frustration is.

I usually plan in advance and set my army for whatever their weakness is ( if I see anti air all on the outside I will take that out and fly dragons in) if their anti air is strong I will focus on building different units. I'm not by any means a great tactician but I can contribute regular stars in attacks. I focus more on getting stars around my level than getting 1 star off the higher dudes for the loot or blitzing the lowbies. We've been fairly even against the US/EU clans in recent months in win/loss. Its just the last month or so we've palyed 4/5 Chinese clans in a rowand been blown to oblivion lol.

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Originally Posted by Johnnysks

So you only want to war against people who will only half a$$ it?



Cups can be VERY easily manipulated by dropping trophies or sniping th, so using trophies is a horrible way to mitigate your problem.



Casual clan shouldn't go to war. If you go up against a clan where everybody raids with barbs and archers, are you going to come back and complain because everybody on their side attacked twice while half of your casual players didn't raid? Then what? You want Supercell to match you against another clan that will also half a$$ it?



Either create a temporary clan with your clannies that WANTS to go to war, then jump back afterwards, or kick and REINVITE the inactives after CW has initiated. This is what everybody does.



My clan consist of Americans, Canadians, Iraqi's, New Zealanders, Indonesians and British, and no one puts in a half a$$ effort. Everybody either builts dragon army, hogs (in the past), or golem/pekka/wizard/witch army. We have seen both balls to the wall efforts from American and Chinese clans, and half a$$ efforts from all cultures as well.

Lastly, if you think spending $500k on elixir is a lot, you guys are inefficient and may be nooby. Learn how to barch. Elixir is not scare. Many in my farming clan are barchers, and our elixir storage is always full at 6-8 million. Elixir is an unwanted commodity. Gold and DE are a much more sough after commodity.

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500k++ elixir is not a problem until u use hades dining table
i get wrecked pretty bad on elixir storage this day lost about 2 mil need to upgrade lab damn
i use barch for farming though mass drags for war(except when i know i am gonna lose giant healer on their low to get star for archievement)

usually i got 4 mil on storage elixir but now it is in past lol

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Originally Posted by braxbrah

Of course some of our mid rank guys are youngsters around 8-10 years old

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There is your problem right there. You have a family clan with kids, so you are not likely to be competitive. You have to decide the values of your clan and manage accordingly. There is no training wheels cw league, and that sounds like what you're looking for. Your only solution to not getting blown to oblivion and getting demoralized would be to avoid clan war all together. COC may appeal to kids, but really once it gets competitive at the higher level it is just too complex and really more suited for teens and adults.

At the end of the day, it all depends on you (whether you are a leader or member). If your a leader, it's you who created and manage the clan. If your a member, you choose which clan you want to be in.


If you are in a clan with leader and members who don't put effort into the war, then don't complain about losing. If you care so about about winning a war, go to a clan with leader that manages the clan to win wars.


This is my experience. I have 2 accounts. Both clans are adults with family and friends, i.e. life outside of CoC.


For my 1st account, I'm the founder and now co-leader. We make sure everyone participates. We donate only witches, level 5+ wizards, level 3+ dragons into war clan castle for defense. We have ran into very tough opponents. We do have winning record: 10-7. I am satisfied with our results. In our loses, I know we gave our 100% and we came up short against better opponents. Nothing to complain and b*tch about.


On my 2nd account, I'm a member. This clan is 17-1 in war. I am still not sure why this clan does so well in war. I really want to replicate this success in my 1st account. The leader is not as active in war management. However, clan members only use their best units on attacks. TH7 and TH8 mainly use all dragons and all spells. And these guys use dragon for farming (which I disagree with). So they have a lot of experience with dragon attacks.


Note that both accounts do 1 war per week. I find some clans do 2-3 wars each week or continuous wars. To me, that is an issue. There is no time to farm and upgrade, plus being able to fund the war. Members do not participate; members do not use their best units; and war clan castle are not filled with best units.

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Originally Posted by Stiehl9s

If only half or so of your clan want to war and that half isnt willing to spend elixir on winning army then your clan is never going to win a war nor should it. How in the world can SC code the game to match you against other clans that only want give a so so effort? Not going to happen.

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Exactly.

I'm sorry, but this is an embarrassing thread.