Misconceptions of TH8 vs TH9

there is one clear advantage to waiting on the upgrade, percentage of loot. yes, you should get some serious traction on your offense and defense prior to making the jump. however, some of the cross talk about downsides appear to be incorrect.

one thing i have heard on multiple occasions is "th9 and th10's don't really target you as much when you're a th8, and they will if you jump up to 9." this is absurd. it isn't as if you can find an opponent on a map. you are playing roulette when finding matches, so there is no targeting. second, you are going to get attacked based on what you have available, period. if your coffers are overflowing, you will be attacked. if you don't have much to offer, you will not be attacked.

something you better be prepared to do is get all your new defensive buildings as quickly as possible. the jump to th9 provides you a great advantage in terms of new buildings. every building that can fight back helps your cause. if you quickly take advantage of these new buildings, it's a huge difference. i've watched the difference in replays of just what a difference each of those new buildings add to an overall defense, and it is huge. a level 2 wizard tower in itself seems pretty weak, but if it is distracting attackers while your level 6 mortars are wailing on them, you have a nice added advantage.

i have five builders, and all five builders are scheduled to finish their current upgrades right around the time my th9 is ready. i have a schedule prepared for my upgrades. $5.2 mil gold in the first 48 hours, and another $3 mil on that third morning. the third day will start army camp upgrades, then within the next week, lab upgrade. upgrading walls as a builder becomes free after day three.

Item	Bld time	Bldr	start
25 Walls to L3		1	7:30am
Cannon L1	1 min	1	8am
Archer L1	15 min	2	8am
X-bow L1	7 days	3	8am
Mortar L1	8 hours	4	8am
Wizard L1	12 hours	5	8am
Cannon L2	15 min	1	8:05am
Archer L2	30 min	2	8:15am
Cannon L3	45 min	1	8:20am
Archer L3	45 min	2	8:45am
Cannon L4	2 hours	1	9:05am
Archer L4	4 hours	2	9:30am
Cannon L5	6 hours	1	11:00am
AirD L1	12 hours	2	1:30pm
Archer L5	12 hours	4	4pm
Cannon L6	12 hours	1	5pm
Mortar L2	12 hours	5	8pm
Wizard L2	1 day	1	next morning
Air D L2	1 day	2	next morning
Tesla L1	1 day	4	next morning
Mortar L3	1 day	5	next morning
Army Camp L7	5 days	1	Sat
X-bow L1	7 days	2	Sat

i suppose the main ingredient is being prepared and having a plan. if someone 30 levels higher wants your goods or your trophies, they are going to take them. i've been attacked by someone 2 th levels higher using well over 200,000 elixir and 2500 dark elixir to steal 150k gold, 120k elixir and 400 dark. they got a whopping 7 trophies. i'm not sure what the point of such an attack would be.

As a TH8, the TH 10s will, for the most part, ignore you. The reason is that the loot penalty for a TH10 against a TH 8 is 50%. So if I have 2 mill each in storage, that appears as 250k to a TH9 but only 130k to a TH10 (roughly estimated, I didn't do the actual math)...

Is 130k worth raiding to a TH10? maybe but most likely that TH 10 will hit next in search of larger prey.

Now lets say I'm a premie TH9 with the exact same, perhaps slightly more defense... That same 2 mil storage will appear as 250k to the TH10... It's much more likely that he's going to take it.

So same mid TH8 defenses:

• TH9 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often and TH10 often.
• TH8 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often, and TH10 rarely.

The one big advantage of upgrading your TH is you can upgrade your attacking forces (troop levels, and camp space) so you can raid bigger targets.

For this reason, its better to wait to upgrade your TH until you've had the chance to at least upgrade all your troop levels so you can take advantage of the higher troop levels.

Always upgrade offense first. Offense can earn you resources.

While doing that, use the same defense you've had since TH2: the shield. It's still impenetrable, still lasts 12-16 hours, and now costs 2% fewer of your resources.

Clash On!

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Originally Posted by Jietoh

As a TH8, the TH 10s will, for the most part, ignore you. The reason is that the loot penalty for a TH10 against a TH 8 is 50%. So if I have 2 mill each in storage, that appears as 250k to a TH9 but only 130k to a TH10 (roughly estimated, I didn't do the actual math)...

Is 130k worth raiding to a TH10? maybe but most likely that TH 10 will hit next in search of larger prey.

Now lets say I'm a premie TH9 with the exact same, perhaps slightly more defense... That same 2 mil storage will appear as 250k to the TH10... It's much more likely that he's going to take it.

So same mid TH8 defenses:

• TH9 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often and TH10 often.
• TH8 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often, and TH10 rarely.

The one big advantage of upgrading your TH is you can upgrade your attacking forces (troop levels, and camp space) so you can raid bigger targets.

For this reason, its better to wait to upgrade your TH until you've had the chance to at least upgrade all your troop levels so you can take advantage of the higher troop levels.

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you should add something too

So same mid TH8 defenses:

• TH9 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often and TH10 often.
  TH8 will get nothing, you have much better chance to defend TH9 and TH10.
• TH8 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often, and TH10 rarely.
  TH8 will get some, TH9 will get everything, TH10 will get half and you have no chance to defend againts them.

:p

You are upgrading to TH9? Why are you upgrading mortar and cannon to level 1? You get your third and final mortar at TH7.

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Originally Posted by sharonsym

you should add something too

So same mid TH8 defenses:

• TH9 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often and TH10 often.
  TH8 will get nothing, you have much better chance to defend TH9 and TH10.
• TH8 gets eaten by other TH8 rarely, TH9 often, and TH10 rarely.
  TH8 will get some, TH9 will get everything, TH10 will get half and you have no chance to defend againts them.

:p

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You missed the part where both bases in the comparison have the same, mid TH8 defenses... This guy is saying that upgrading your base from TH8 to TH9 doesn't need to wait for upgrades because on Day 3 of the TH9 upgrade you're much stronger. I'm refuting this assertion... Your TH does not add to you defense and the stuff you can get right off the bat aren't going help you defend against a TH8 or TH9...

I myself wanted to go up to TH9 prematurely as soon as my offenses were maxed out, but there are so many disadvantages that come with that that I decided to just wait. When you will be a TH9 if you have any defenses you need to catch up other than the new wizard tower and air defense, it will become a drag really fast. Think about it. You finally get xbows and defenses that could actually work. Would you really want to worry about catching up some defenses you neglected before? Plus you would become a target for other TH9's and TH10's. Keeping your resources would become difficult. Play the game how you want, but understand that by rushing your TH you will be setting yourself up for a challenging journey.

The one misconception I have realized is this:

"You will miss out on TH7 loot because of the 50% loot penalty."

This is true in that regard, however, you can more than make up for the TH7 loot by being able to field an army of 220 troops + an extra spell...which allows you to take more loot from other TH9's and TH10's.

So it's really a wash in terms of actual loot.

OP that's some serious organizational OCD you go there lol. I've known businessmen who have given less thought to planning their careers lol.