help for naive newbie!

Hi, am hoping you will be able to help me :)
I started playing a while ago just when I had the time, but I recently fractured my back and have been playing a lot more (i have the bug!) However, i made some serious school boy errors in the beginning!:(

I bought gems to speed things up, and have now come to realise I concentrated on the wrong things! My town hall is level 8 yet my walls are level 3. My defenses are seriously lacking too, with archer towers level 5/6 as are my canons. I admit i never read any how to's on the game and there is a lot I obviously don't know, even the basics. I do want to learn though and have tried reading some online tutorial kind of things and asking on chat in the game but there I have found no-one very helpful unfortunately.
So where do i go from here? I am not a member of a clan as again I do not really understand their workings and benefits. Its seems to take forever to build up enough gold and elixir to upgrade anything and I don't want to buy more gems as that would be the easy option. If someone can give me some tips and pointers it would be much appreciated :D

Concentrate on splash defense first (mortars, wizard towers) to upgrade and get up your laboratory and troops, max them out as soon as you can. The better your troops are, the better you'll be in farming resources in attacks and the quicker you have the next update going.
What league are you in? As soon as you can (trooplevelwise), push up to gold, farming is easier there (though I'm still on silver I myself).

You might want to take a look into the thread I linked in my signature - I basically made the same mistake than you and try to catch up as a premature TH7 now. :)

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Originally Posted by nattinord

Concentrate on splash defense first (mortars, wizard towers) to upgrade and get up your laboratory and troops, max them out as soon as you can. The better your troops are, the better you'll be in farming resources in attacks and the quicker you have the next update going.
What league are you in? As soon as you can (trooplevelwise), push up to gold, farming is easier there (though I'm still on silver I myself).

You might want to take a look into the thread I linked in my signature - I basically made the same mistake than you and try to catch up as a premature TH7 now. :)

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Thank you for your reply! I don't know what league i'm in (i did say i didn't know much!) where does it say that information? I will look at the link now and thank you again!

I would focus on:

-Laboratory upgrades
-Collector upgrades
-Mortar/Wizard Tower upgrades
-Wall upgrades

These because you will need good troops to attack, you will need resources to fund upgrades, you will likely get barched due to your bad defences and so splash damage is the best defence and walls are a must as they will be relatively cheap and will help on the defence.

Hope I helped. :)

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Originally Posted by Mj3344

I would focus on:

-Laboratory upgrades
-Collector upgrades
-Mortar/Wizard Tower upgrades
-Wall upgrades

These because you will need good troops to attack, you will need resources to fund upgrades, you will likely get barched due to your bad defences and so splash damage is the best defence and walls are a must as they will be relatively cheap and will help on the defence.

Hope I helped. :)

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yes that helps thank you:)
am i right in thinking another way to increase gold and elixir is to attack others-and do I do that via the attack button on the left?

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Originally Posted by arby24

Hi, am hoping you will be able to help me :)
I started playing a while ago just when I had the time, but I recently fractured my back and have been playing a lot more (i have the bug!) However, i made some serious school boy errors in the beginning!:(

I bought gems to speed things up, and have now come to realise I concentrated on the wrong things! My town hall is level 8 yet my walls are level 3. My defenses are seriously lacking too, with archer towers level 5/6 as are my canons. I admit i never read any how to's on the game and there is a lot I obviously don't know, even the basics. I do want to learn though and have tried reading some online tutorial kind of things and asking on chat in the game but there I have found no-one very helpful unfortunately.
So where do i go from here? I am not a member of a clan as again I do not really understand their workings and benefits. Its seems to take forever to build up enough gold and elixir to upgrade anything and I don't want to buy more gems as that would be the easy option. If someone can give me some tips and pointers it would be much appreciated :D

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On the positive side a rushed th8 is usually recoverable as the loot modifier isn't too bad. As others have said max your archers and barbs asap and then your camps. If you don't have 5 builders then investing in those speeds the game up. If you have the time, and it sounds like you do, learn to barch. At th8 you can build a 200 troop army, something like 100 barbs 92 archers and 4 wall breakers. With that army you can rebuild every 20 minutes or so. Then look for bases with loot in the mines and pumps, usually a bunch of trees or tombstones is a good indicator. Silver 2 or 3 has plenty of available loot. If you have the time shoot for 300 successful raids a season, 2 weeks.

Hope that helps, good luck.

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Originally Posted by arby24

yes that helps thank you:)
am i right in thinking another way to increase gold and elixir is to attack others-and do I do that via the attack button on the left?

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Yes, but only attack what you know you can win. You will gradually get better and eventually will be able to attack townhall 8/9.

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Originally Posted by Mj3344

Yes, but only attack what you know you can win. You will gradually get better and eventually will be able to attack townhall 8/9.

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great thank you all help is greatly received. however, I'm not good on the 'lingo' what is barch? also when i click on attack it doesn't give me an option to chose anyone it just takes me to someones base? sorry if I'm being really 'simple' :confused:

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Originally Posted by arby24

great thank you all help is greatly received. however, I'm not good on the 'lingo' what is barch? also when i click on attack it doesn't give me an option to chose anyone it just takes me to someones base? sorry if I'm being really 'simple' :confused:

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how many days have you been playing ??
look at this once

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-for-Th8-and-9

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Originally Posted by arby24

great thank you all help is greatly received. however, I'm not good on the 'lingo' what is barch? also when i click on attack it doesn't give me an option to chose anyone it just takes me to someones base? sorry if I'm being really 'simple' :confused:

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Barch is an attack strategy where you use nothing but barbarians and archers (you can use a few wall busters to help). Typically, if you have 4 barracks to train troops you load up two of them with barbarians and two with archers.

As for the attack, yes it takes you to someone else's base. You have 30 second to decide if you want to attack them or not. If you don't wish to attack, push the Next button and it will take you to someone else's base. You can keep doing this as many times as you need to, so you can find a good base to attack.

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Originally Posted by Suranjan16049

how many days have you been playing ??
look at this once

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-for-Th8-and-9

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I had the app on my phone for about 3 weeks and since being incapacitated have been playing it more for nearly 2 weeks. thank you for the link:) so how do i chose who to attack??

You can see what league you are in by looking on that small nearly triangulated shape on the top left corner.


http://s7.directupload.net/images/us...p/d9dazbxk.png

Older base pic of mine. You can make it bigger by clicking on it. So, my league is that grey thing with a I on it, means I'm in silver I.
The four-digit-number next to it shows my count of trophies. You gain those by winning defenses or attacks and lose some when you lose either a defense or an attack.
With maxed th8-troops you should push to either silver I or gold III/II, but I guess you didn't even do some laboratory updates yet, right? Start getting up archers first, second barbarians, third giants, fourth wallbreakers. Then upgrade lab and do the same again until those are level 4/5. You don't need the other troops for farming in the beginning.

For barch-attacks you choose on what's outside in the collectors and empty those. Just read the guide, I think it explains everything pretty well.

Can you post a picture of your base?

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Originally Posted by PickledJaW

Barch is an attack strategy where you use nothing but barbarians and archers (you can use a few wall busters to help). Typically, if you have 4 barracks to train troops you load up two of them with barbarians and two with archers.

As for the attack, yes it takes you to someone else's base. You have 30 second to decide if you want to attack them or not. If you don't wish to attack, push the Next button and it will take you to someone else's base. You can keep doing this as many times as you need to, so you can find a good base to attack.

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great thank you ;)

do i need to join a clan and if so how do you chose and whats the benefit?

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Originally Posted by nattinord

You can see what league you are in by looking on that small nearly triangulated shape on the top left corner.


http://s7.directupload.net/images/us...p/d9dazbxk.png

Older base pic of mine. You can make it bigger by clicking on it. So, my league is that grey thing with a I on it, means I'm in silver I.
The four-digit-number next to it shows my count of trophies. You gain those by winning defenses or attacks and lose some when you lose either a defense or an attack.
With maxed th8-troops you should push to either silver I or gold III/II, but I guess you didn't even do some laboratory updates yet, right? Start getting up archers first, second barbarians, third giants, fourth wallbreakers. Then upgrade lab and do the same again until those are level 4/5. You don't need the other troops for farming in the beginning.

For barch-attacks you choose on what's outside in the collectors and empty those. Just read the guide, I think it explains everything pretty well.

Can you post a picture of your base?

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that all makes sense thank you! yes happy to post picture if you can tell me how to? :confused:

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Originally Posted by arby24

that all makes sense thank you! yes happy to post picture if you can tell me how to? :confused:

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also, from what you've explained, there's nothing in my silver thing and next to that by the trophy sign it says 609?

Take a snapshot of your base (when you use iOS: push homebutton and powerbutton shortly after another, it will take a picture and save it into your photos. I don't know for android though), go to an picture-upload-site and upload it there, for example tinypic. Uploading to the site basically explains itself then. Afterwards post the link that is given to you here.

So then you have 609 trophies. That actually puts you in bronze II (english word?? :o), but that is only done when you first win an attack. As long as you don't have an league, that field is empty. You'll see it change when you won your first attack.

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Originally Posted by nattinord

Take a snapshot of your base (when you use iOS: push homebutton and powerbutton shortly after another, it will take a picture and save it into your photos. I don't know for android though), go to an picture-upload-site and upload it there, for example tinypic. Uploading to the site basically explains itself then. Afterwards post the link that is given to you here.

So then you have 609 trophies. That actually puts you in bronze II (english word?? :o), but that is only done when you first win an attack. As long as you don't have an league, that field is empty. You'll see it change when you won your first attack.

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I've managed to get the screenshot but not sure what you mean to do any further than that sorry!

hi im lomo

go to tinypic.com (with the device the pic is on - I hope this will be your own language then, for me it's german. But I've seen others use that before), click on the button 'Choose file' (or something like that), choose the pic and click on upload. It will give you a link so others can see the pic. Post that link here. ;)

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Originally Posted by nattinord

go to tinypic.com (with the device the pic is on - I hope this will be your own language then, for me it's german. But I've seen others use that before), click on the button 'Choose file' (or something like that), choose the pic and click on upload. It will give you a link so others can see the pic. Post that link here. ;)

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OK have done it I think, there are anumber of links so will post them all as not sure which one you need! Let me know if it works and thank you again for al your help it is much appreciated:D

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Oh wow your base is really under-leveled for a th 8... but well, wish you luck! AND don't go wasting your gems! :)

Ok looks ok until u stay in bronze league.

For offence max army camp For lab max barbs and archers first so that u can loot better.

For defence First max ur mortors then wizards tower then archer towers and cannons and tesla.

If u have 5 builders u can use 3 for army camps and 2 mortors.

And forget about as if u have de (dark exile) and gems for now.

Being in a clan is really helpful. Clan mates can donate u any troops they can and which u can hold. . U can have clan wars and if u win good loot bonus.

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Originally Posted by RanomMaxx

Oh wow your base is really under-leveled for a th 8... but well, wish you luck! AND don't go wasting your gems! :)

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i know :( but i will get there! Is the basic layout ok or would you suggest any changes?

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Originally Posted by Habeeb

Ok looks ok until u stay in bronze league.

For offence max army camp For lab max barbs and archers first so that u can loot better.

For defence First max ur mortors then wizards tower then archer towers and cannons and tesla.

If u have 5 builders u can use 3 for army camps and 2 mortors.

And forget about as if u have de (dark exile) and gems for now.

Being in a clan is really helpful. Clan mates can donate u any troops they can and which u can hold. . U can have clan wars and if u win good loot bonus.

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great thank you I will start to upgrade and max things as soon as i can, but it takes an age waiting for enough gold and elixir! so am gunna try someones suggestion and try and loot a bit. I keep getting properly attacked and lose my stores before i get chance to use them for upgrades! I am learning my mistake the hard way!:cool:

You might want to consider putting your townhall outside. With that, you'll get townhall-sniped soon, meaning someone only destroys your townhall to get the trophies. This will give you a free 12-hour-shield in which nobody will attack your base in order to get your resources. You'll lose some trophies for that, but only about 10 at a time. One win and you got them back.
Not sure whether that works in bronze, though. There are some really good th8 (townhall [level] 8) farming bases in this forum (farming base = a base where you mainly protect your resources and don't care about trophies. Would be one of those which have their townhall outside), you might want to look around.

Your base layout isn't that good - your mortars should be a centered triangle, that works best for them. Get them up asap! Get the other wizard towers and upgrade them, they're good splash defense.
And if you play much anyway, you can put your collectors and mines outside, as they'll be mostly empty. Put your cannons inside instead.

As you already have the gems - I think there's nothing wrong with speeding up upgrades a little to at least help getting your base up. You need to get your troops up, otherwise you'll have a hard time farming. Okay, maybe not in bronze, but soon you'll reach the point where level 2 archers aren't enough anymore.

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Originally Posted by nattinord

You might want to consider putting your townhall outside. With that, you'll get townhall-sniped soon, meaning someone only destroys your townhall to get the trophies. This will give you a free 12-hour-shield in which nobody will attack your base in order to get your resources. You'll lose some trophies for that, but only about 10 at a time. One win and you got them back.
Not sure whether that works in bronze, though. There are some really good th8 (townhall [level] 8) farming bases in this forum (farming base = a base where you mainly protect your resources and don't care about trophies. Would be one of those which have their townhall outside), you might want to look around.

Your base layout isn't that good - your mortars should be a centered triangle, that works best for them. Get them up asap! Get the other wizard towers and upgrade them, they're good splash defense.
And if you play much anyway, you can put your collectors and mines outside, as they'll be mostly empty. Put your cannons inside instead.

As you already have the gems - I think there's nothing wrong with speeding up upgrades a little to at least help getting your base up. You need to get your troops up, otherwise you'll have a hard time farming. Okay, maybe not in bronze, but soon you'll reach the point where level 2 archers aren't enough anymore.

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Hi:) I have taken your advice, had a restructure and have been concentrating on upgrading as much as I can! I am now in League silver III. I seem to be able to defend quite well after the restructure, but am having no luck on attacking-any tips?

It took me a while to realise that when I was looking for a match every time i clicked next it took the gold off me!! everyone I seem to be matched against has much better defenses than me so am finding it quite tricky! I take it that is the only way to attack?

I will post a new pic of my base for you

Yes please show a new pic :)

Focus on storage raids, when you have problems attacking. That means you hit next until you find a base with full collectors outside. You empty them with Barch (barbarians + archers, first deploy a line of barbarians, after that a line archers. The barbs work as meat shield for the archers, as they pull the defenses on them while the archers take out the resources), aim for 50% and leave.

Attacking will get easier the better your troops get :)

Please go to the clash of clans wiki and read some collector farming guides. These will help you the most.

Here;s a link to get you started...

http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/F..._Get_Resources

If you're looking for loot, playing alot, and are playing long sessions without breaks, you might want to try dropping until you're below 200. Search this forum for posts on "Sub 200 Farming", or something similar (there's actually a thread on the first page of this forum that discusses it).

What happens is that when you go below 200 trophies, the match up algorythim for mutli player attack matchups changes, and you'll go from being matched with bases that have no loot, to sme matchups with great loot; much of it very easy to get with just archers and goblins.

If you have a few minutes, take a look through the forum to learn more about it. I did very well there when I was a TH 8.

Honestly, I'd make a new account mate. :p

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Originally Posted by Jietoh

Please go to the clash of clans wiki and read some collector farming guides. These will help you the most.

Here;s a link to get you started...

http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/F..._Get_Resources

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That's great thank you :D will read it now

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Originally Posted by EmptySea

If you're looking for loot, playing alot, and are playing long sessions without breaks, you might want to try dropping until you're below 200. Search this forum for posts on "Sub 200 Farming", or something similar (there's actually a thread on the first page of this forum that discusses it).

What happens is that when you go below 200 trophies, the match up algorythim for mutli player attack matchups changes, and you'll go from being matched with bases that have no loot, to sme matchups with great loot; much of it very easy to get with just archers and goblins.

If you have a few minutes, take a look through the forum to learn more about it. I did very well there when I was a TH 8.

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thank you for the tips and advice, its much appreciated! I will have a search now:)