[TH9 Farming Base] Black Statue

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August 3rd, 2014
Avernicus

[TH9 Farming Base] Black Statue

Table of Contents

-Introduction
-Design
-Pros & Cons
-Replays
-Misc

Introduction

After having been through so many types of Labyrinth Designs, I figured it would be nice to feature one that has a black hole. For those of you who are not sure what a black hole is, a black hole is created by accident or on purpose; it is usually a spawn point in the middle of the base allows enemy attackers to start his attack from there.

The fun begins when the attacker spawns next to the PEKKA statue. And being a black hole type of base, I have named it.....Black Statue.

"By the statue we started our attack...and by its stoned cold gaze we perished one by one...."

Design
Designing this base was no easy feat. It's really weird seeing that hole in the middle and having to build up different sections of the base to make it non-symmetrical. For some odd reason, symmetry isn't my best friend. The more non-symmetrical my base is, the stronger it gets.. :eek:

Base with just walls:

http://i.imgur.com/VhbO8Uo.png

Base with traps:

http://i.imgur.com/EdQtnU9.png

Base with buildings in place:

http://i.imgur.com/t4IMsog.png

The center of the base is featured with 2 routes- one pathed for defense (giants/hogs), the other for resources (other troops). I deliberately placed the Dark Elixir near the spawn point to tempt attackers into attacking straight from the core. :rolleyes:

But at the same time, the spawn point is guarded by her Majesty and his Highness. Spawning in the middle would mean certain and quick death from the 2 heroes and CC troops.

Giants will head for the southern cannon and move on towards the other defenses and get sprung away pathing slowly southwest/east along the defense line, slowly being removed from the battlefield.

All 3 mortars are aligned to target the spawn point- basically, all tier 1 troops will be smashed instantly by 3 simultaneous mortar fire. Coupled with the small bombs that line the path towards the DE, the chance of survival for tier 1 troops is near 0%.

Xbows placed on two far fronts to cause enemies to be continuously fired upon wrecking havoc in his strategy and placed such that reaching them will prove a tedious feat.

Clan Castle seated next to the spawn point to act as a tank while enemy troops engage the CC and get smashed by defenses from all directions. (Credits to Garjik for the idea)

Of course, if the enemy decides not to spawn in the middle, they can attack the base like any other conventional base but would only get 50% or fewer of the total loot.

Pros:

-Awkward design makes attacking very difficult.
-Spawn point means certain death if deployed.
-Resources well separated.
-Splash defenses well spread out.

Cons:

-Not anti-hog.
-CC not centered.
-Slightly exposed air defenses (can be solved with xbows set to air + ground)
-Not symmetrical

Replays

http://i.imgur.com/Wo7Ojgv.png
http://i.imgur.com/oS7O6Ic.png
http://i.imgur.com/4XQAqkj.png
http://i.imgur.com/86G9oqH.png
http://i.imgur.com/S8EDuY8.png
http://i.imgur.com/3vsF8fY.png
http://i.imgur.com/9TAY8u6.png
http://i.imgur.com/AgCkFVR.png
http://i.imgur.com/LNt33Sa.png
http://i.imgur.com/nxuZ5YG.png

Feel free to leave your comments! :rolleyes:

Misc

Base is suitable for farming from 1700-1900.
August 3rd, 2014
R3taliate

I like the base but the thing with some or most black hole bases is that it is quite weak from attacking around the outside unlike the centre, is that the case with this base?

Anyways I like the design of the base and the fact that it isn't symmetrical tends to put people off attacking it or if they do end up completely failing. Can you post all your defences, win or lose please at some point.
August 3rd, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3taliate

I like the base but the thing with some or most black hole bases is that it is quite weak from attacking around the outside unlike the centre, is that the case with this base?

Anyways I like the design of the base and the fact that it isn't symmetrical tends to put people off attacking it or if they do end up completely failing. Can you post all your defences, win or lose please at some point.

What u're seeing is what i'm getting hit by (serious attacks of course; excluding snipes).

And no, thats the case with this base. If u attack from the outside, majority of the attacks got half or less than half of the total loot. :3
August 3rd, 2014
Dude4

Looks great!
August 3rd, 2014
DokuganR

This base seems awesome... 2 things:

1) You're leeching DE as people attack :p
2) I think when making black hole bases you need to thoroughly test it well because the downside is that a lot is sacrificed for allowing opponents two directions to attack (CC is lurable, possibly vulnerable to BARCH) and such.

Anyway, just a heads up.
August 3rd, 2014
Radiating

Love it. I wonder how many suckers you can pull in in a week.
August 3rd, 2014
awornpear

Good base might use it
August 3rd, 2014
DOODYDUM

Smart design. :cool:
August 3rd, 2014
KimJongLi

Oh? very interesting. very complex funneling, typical of Avernicus ;)
August 3rd, 2014
Ellio

I feel like the DE would be easy to get to with a couple minions.

Very interesting base, though! I like it :o
August 3rd, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude4

Looks great!

Thanks! :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by DokuganR

This base seems awesome... 2 things:

1) You're leeching DE as people attack :p
2) I think when making black hole bases you need to thoroughly test it well because the downside is that a lot is sacrificed for allowing opponents two directions to attack (CC is lurable, possibly vulnerable to BARCH) and such.

Anyway, just a heads up.

Definitely food for thought. :D thanks man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiating

Love it. I wonder how many suckers you can pull in in a week.

Hahahah waiting for more 0 loots! xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by awornpear

Good base might use it

Sure! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJongLi

Oh? very interesting. very complex funneling, typical of Avernicus ;)

Interestingly, i designed this when i was drifting off to sleep.... xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellio

I feel like the DE would be easy to get to with a couple minions.

Very interesting base, though! I like it :o

Hmm i should adjust the air bomb then.. :rolleyes:
August 3rd, 2014
Siddmaster

When my TH9 upgrade finishes in 7-8 days I'll try it if I remember :D
August 3rd, 2014
ClashinZach

Aq on pekka statue, thanks for the de 😘
August 4th, 2014
TheShadow626

woah what a weird base, lol nice!!!!!
August 4th, 2014
Revising

Not to be rude, but I would flatten this with mass drags. Your de is just too tempting
August 4th, 2014
Garjik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revising

Not to be rude, but I would flatten this with mass drags.

Go away Concussions.

Avernicus, the only thing I don't really like is you don't have a high hp building near the DE. I'd personally move the PEKKA onto the centrepoint, remove the 2 walls that funnel onto the bombs and place your CC there. You'll still have a hole in the base directly under and next to the PEKKA for troop spawn.

Between the CC troops deploying, heroes and defenses, a lot will be dead before the enemy troops even think of targeting building.

Just my .02
August 4th, 2014
InfinityBladeCOC

I feel that mass gob would get the de really easily
August 4th, 2014
DokuganR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revising

Not to be rude, but I would flatten this with mass drags. Your de is just too tempting

Concussions softening his usual demeanor :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siddmaster

When my TH9 upgrade finishes in 7-8 days I'll try it if I remember :D

You can use Avernicus' Will of Atlantis base while your X-Bows are upgrading.
August 4th, 2014
thenextman

Nice base, but the entire concept of a "black hole" style base is flawed in my opinion as it guarantees that the clan castle is lureable one way or another.
August 4th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClashinZach

Aq on pekka statue, thanks for the de ��

Hhaha got a point there. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siddmaster

When my TH9 upgrade finishes in 7-8 days I'll try it if I remember :D

Sure~~~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revising

Not to be rude, but I would flatten this with mass drags. Your de is just too tempting

Awww....Ok then. Hang on... aren't you.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garjik

Go away Concussions.

Avernicus, the only thing I don't really like is you don't have a high hp building near the DE. I'd personally move the PEKKA onto the centrepoint, remove the 2 walls that funnel onto the bombs and place your CC there. You'll still have a hole in the base directly under and next to the PEKKA for troop spawn.

Between the CC troops deploying, heroes and defenses, a lot will be dead before the enemy troops even think of targeting building.

Just my .02

Nice take on that. Come to think of it, that's a really nice point. I mean given my current position of the CC, troops will slowly stream towards the core instead of appearing immediately on the spawn point. I shall modify shift the CC and see how it goes. :D thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinityBladeCOC

I feel that mass gob would get the de really easily

I'll upload a new replay to justify that while it SEEMS easy to get to, it isn't really the case. But yeah u have a point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DokuganR

Concussions softening his usual demeanor :rolleyes:

You can use Avernicus' Will of Atlantis base while your X-Bows are upgrading.

So Revising = Concussions...o_O and he posted one of his many bases which he held so highly of and made ppl PM him for it? :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenextman

Nice base, but the entire concept of a "black hole" style base is flawed in my opinion as it guarantees that the clan castle is lureable one way or another.

So ideally, what should the concept of a black hole be? Coz from my understanding, its basically a spawn point somewhere in the middle of a base.. Wasn't sure that it warrants an unlurable CC. Or am i mistaken? o_O
August 4th, 2014
thenextman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

So ideally, what should the concept of a black hole be? Coz from my understanding, its basically a spawn point somewhere in the middle of a base.. Wasn't sure that it warrants an unlurable CC. Or am i mistaken? o_O

Yes, having a spawn point in the middle of the base ensures that the cc will be lureable.
August 4th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenextman

Yes, having a spawn point in the middle of the base ensures that the cc will be lureable.

At the moment (in the screenies) where my CC is in the northwest corner, the CC is still lurable if they spawn from the core. But as previously mentioned by Garjik, i have shifted the CC to be somewhat directly next to the spawn spot so it acts as a tanker while the enemy gets pummeled by defenses from all directions.

PS: new replay uploaded featuring loads of goblins attempting a quick DE steal.

Will update the screenshots of the base soon.
August 4th, 2014
Avernicus

Updated thread with new screenshots of base with minor adjustments in clan castle positioning.
August 4th, 2014
Garjik

Glad to see you liked my idea Avernicus. Good luck with your base mate, I'll keep watching the thread for updates. I used HDT during the tail end of my TH8 for a few weeks and every replay was always guaranteed to make me laugh.
August 4th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garjik

Glad to see you liked my idea Avernicus. Good luck with your base mate, I'll keep watching the thread for updates. I used HDT during the tail end of my TH8 for a few weeks and every replay was always guaranteed to make me laugh.

Thanks again for ur valuable input! :D hahahaha glad u enjoyed those funny replays. :P
August 5th, 2014
Avernicus

New replays uploaded.

Holding 350k of both resources atm.:rolleyes:
August 5th, 2014
Avernicus

New replay! :D only 1 gold storage breached.
August 5th, 2014
ClashLegend02

Since its black hole i dont like it:rolleyes:
Those bases hardly ever work, but I suppose you can just put a builder hut in there if it turns out it doesn't..
August 5th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClashLegend02

Since its black hole i dont like it:rolleyes:
Those bases hardly ever work, but I suppose you can just put a builder hut in there if it turns out it doesn't..

Well its working so far.. :rolleyes:
August 5th, 2014
Avernicus

Significant adjustments made to base to make it more well defended if the enemy doesn't decide to spawn in the designated point.
August 5th, 2014
firelizard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

Significant adjustments made to base to make it more well defended if the enemy doesn't decide to spawn in the designated point.

Any detailed response if a loonion army was spawned inside? If not loonion what about drags?:eek::rolleyes:
August 5th, 2014
Revising

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garjik

Go away Concussions.

The funny thing is, you're calling me concussions, yet you are acting just like him. Please, if you don't like me, ignore me. Simply trolling me just makes you look worse. All this because you simply didn't like my base. funny.
August 5th, 2014
BigPapiSolis

I'll test the base as well I enjoy using different bases people create on the forums. Another part of the game for me base design/testing.

Everyone is so focused on an unlureable CC since that has been preached on the forums since hogs discovered heal, they can't possibly fathom reasons not to have it dead center. This is a farming base so it makes sense to assume user will be in the proper trophy range and just facing typical farming combos.
August 5th, 2014
Townhall8

Looks really nice. I myself have been trapped into spawning my troops in the middle, ultimately failing.
August 6th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by firelizard

Any detailed response if a loonion army was spawned inside? If not loonion what about drags?:eek::rolleyes:

Haven't been attacked by that comp but if it happens, air mines nearby will definitely hit hard on the balloons and wipe the minions from the sky. Balloons will move down towards the southeastern tesla and southern wizard tower where they will meet their end from the arcane blasts. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPapiSolis

I'll test the base as well I enjoy using different bases people create on the forums. Another part of the game for me base design/testing.

Everyone is so focused on an unlureable CC since that has been preached on the forums since hogs discovered heal, they can't possibly fathom reasons not to have it dead center. This is a farming base so it makes sense to assume user will be in the proper trophy range and just facing typical farming combos.

Well said. Guides =/= rules of the game. Anything goes and everything is situational. It all depends on what the player wants and how he intends to work his way towards his objectives.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Townhall8

Looks really nice. I myself have been trapped into spawning my troops in the middle, ultimately failing.

:rolleyes: tasty treats definitely attracts.. :D
August 6th, 2014
NeggyBundy

I would like to tell you first that i do think its a cool and creative base. As an avid 'Looner though, I will shed some light on what could happen if you met one, to respond to such proposed speculation :)

I'd drop a minion to see whats in the hole, easily luring cc troops and setting of an air bomb or 2. Then, depending on what u have, i MIGHT drop a balloon in there or 2 to kill them with its kamikaze splash damage. If not, lure them to the side where your de is so they inflict damage after disposing of your cc troops, naturally. Then, as simply put as it sounds, drop a spread line down that side with 2 rage spells followed by a sweeping line of minions to clean up your clutter buildings designed of course to redirect my troops and have them take out your 2 gold storages and De. L6 balloons with L5 mins are devastating to defenses as you know when in rage so i hope you don't doubt that could happen. In the even that i epic fail, a smooth path will be clear for my heroes and cc troops with the remaining rage spell to clean up the mess, and get that De storage for a 50%. Thats a worse case scenario, for the attacker.

I just from experience smh at Trap bases, they just never work, but do make for funny replays. Like i said though, it is very creative i tip my hat to that;)
August 6th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeggyBundy

I would like to tell you first that i do think its a cool and creative base. As an avid 'Looner though, I will shed some light on what could happen if you met one, to respond to such proposed speculation :)

I'd drop a minion to see whats in the hole, easily luring cc troops and setting of an air bomb or 2. Then, depending on what u have, i MIGHT drop a balloon in there or 2 to kill them with its kamikaze splash damage. If not, lure them to the side where your de is so they inflict damage after disposing of your cc troops, naturally. Then, as simply put as it sounds, drop a spread line down that side with 2 rage spells followed by a sweeping line of minions to clean up your clutter buildings designed of course to redirect my troops and have them take out your 2 gold storages and De. L6 balloons with L5 mins are devastating to defenses as you know when in rage so i hope you don't doubt that could happen. In the even that i epic fail, a smooth path will be clear for my heroes and cc troops with the remaining rage spell to clean up the mess, and get that De storage for a 50%. Thats a worse case scenario, for the attacker.

I just from experience smh at Trap bases, they just never work, but do make for funny replays. Like i said though, it is very creative i tip my hat to that;)

Very informative. I have not really start loonian-ing yet. Most of my attacks come in BAM/ BARCH or my customised comps. So i can say i do know what kinda effect there is when u rage those L5 Minions. :D

I understand that high levelled heroes could be a problem if they spawned in the core, thus planning my layout to optimise damage against them. But in my latest replay, I'm not sure if the attacker knew what he was doing with his lv 14 AQ (i'm guessing a mis-deploy). She virtually got shredded by my clan CC. No luring whatsoever was done at all...
August 6th, 2014
Avernicus

Very interesting. A well executed BAM attack nabbed nearly 50% of my loot.

Lv 6 minions w rage... and then dropped a lv 20 AQ..
August 6th, 2014
firelizard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

Very interesting. A well executed BAM attack nabbed nearly 50% of my loot.

Lv 6 minions w rage... and then dropped a lv 20 AQ..

From the black hole? or outside
August 6th, 2014
BigPapiSolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revising

The funny thing is, you're calling me concussions, yet you are acting just like him. Please, if you don't like me, ignore me. Simply trolling me just makes you look worse. All this because you simply didn't like my base. funny.

What happened to Concussions??
August 6th, 2014
pc12

Black hole bases are invariably weak to freeze - and even without freeze, looking at this base, I would be able to take all gold + DE. (With 24 minute farming army + dual heroes and 2+ spells)

I might have a bit of trouble without AQ, but even so DE is still guaranteed. Definitely not the best base for DE protection although it is still an interesting base. As a general rule of thumb, though, spawn-hole bases aren't the best idea.
August 6th, 2014
NeggyBundy

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPapiSolis

What happened to Concussions??

He (finally) got banned
August 6th, 2014
BigPapiSolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeggyBundy

He (finally) got banned

R.I.P. lol
August 6th, 2014
PhoenixFeather

I haven't came on this sub forum in a long time, but nice base overall. ;)
Mind if you PM me the steps you do when making an uneven base. :rolleyes: They seem hard lol
August 7th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc12

Black hole bases are invariably weak to freeze - and even without freeze, looking at this base, I would be able to take all gold + DE. (With 24 minute farming army + dual heroes and 2+ spells)

I might have a bit of trouble without AQ, but even so DE is still guaranteed. Definitely not the best base for DE protection although it is still an interesting base. As a general rule of thumb, though, spawn-hole bases aren't the best idea.

Hahah i'm well aware of the risks. I'm just doing a black hole for the fun of it. And what more fun than seeing enemy attackers getting away with 0 loot? :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFeather

I haven't came on this sub forum in a long time, but nice base overall. ;)
Mind if you PM me the steps you do when making an uneven base. :rolleyes: They seem hard lol

Haha it gets kinda odd for me because most of the time you would seek symmetrical bases but like i said; symmetrical bases spell doom for me.. I have no idea why also.. :x

PS: Nice Ezreal Avatar / Signature. :D I prefer Frost Ezreal though. :9
August 7th, 2014
Avernicus

Up for statue gazers!
August 7th, 2014
PhoenixFeather

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

Hahah i'm well aware of the risks. I'm just doing a black hole for the fun of it. And what more fun than seeing enemy attackers getting away with 0 loot? :rolleyes:

Haha it gets kinda odd for me because most of the time you would seek symmetrical bases but like i said; symmetrical bases spell doom for me.. I have no idea why also.. :x

PS: Nice Ezreal Avatar / Signature. :D I prefer Frost Ezreal though. :9

Lol what a troll :rolleyes:
And yeah, frost ezreal is a lot cooler but if I used that, it wouldn't be in the place it needed to be :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
August 7th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFeather

Lol what a troll :rolleyes:
And yeah, frost ezreal is a lot cooler but if I used that, it wouldn't be in the place it needed to be :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hahaha :3 i'm sure it wouldnt..
:rolleyes:
August 7th, 2014
PhoenixFeather

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

Hahaha :3 i'm sure it wouldnt..
:rolleyes:

Do you play league? Btw can u join meh clan :0 if sg & Thailand sucks cuz I need your labyrinth base tipsssss
August 7th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFeather

Do you play league? Btw can u join meh clan :0 if sg & Thailand sucks cuz I need your labyrinth base tipsssss

Hahaa yes I used to play it very often. Was rocking with Darius back when there wasn't a so called "cooldown". Am a jg/tp/mid player. :3

So far i'm still ok w my clan haha but if nid any tips u can just PM me. I'll try my best to answer ur queries. :D
August 7th, 2014
PhoenixFeather

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avernicus

Hahaa yes I used to play it very often. Was rocking with Darius back when there wasn't a so called "cooldown". Am a jg/tp/mid player. :3

So far i'm still ok w my clan haha but if nid any tips u can just PM me. I'll try my best to answer ur queries. :D

No cool down...

BTW I just got a new iPad and I'm waiting on it to download clash so I can brag lol
August 7th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFeather

No cool down...

BTW I just got a new iPad and I'm waiting on it to download clash so I can brag lol

Wow hahaha bigger screen!! :D yay for better view!
August 8th, 2014
Avernicus

Base has been sufficiently tested from 1700-1900. :D

Best of luck for those who wish to adopt it. I hope it serves u well!
August 8th, 2014
earhole

Nice base. What do you think about placing the CC behind a wall and using an elixir/gold storage in it's place? Reason being is that if your wizards or archers deploy from the cc, they can still attack from behind a wall instead of face to face with the raiders.
August 8th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by earhole

Nice base. What do you think about placing the CC behind a wall and using an elixir/gold storage in it's place? Reason being is that if your wizards or archers deploy from the cc, they can still attack from behind a wall instead of face to face with the raiders.

It is also possible. :D might just work. haha
August 17th, 2014
Pinkydoodles

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Hey Avernicus!

Since I liked the controlled chaos of HDT so much I decided to give this one a try.

So far only 1 person has really fallen for the blackhole, most of them seem to just use it to lure the CC out :(

All that said, the unusual shape of the base seems to do really well in keeping things safe so far. I just got attacked by a TH10 with a hog/giant combo and he didn't get more than a couple of storages because his troops were randomly running around the base. If it the blackhole thing doesn't work out I might just stick a storage in the landing spot or something.

http://i.imgur.com/AZPm1gh.jpg
August 17th, 2014
KimJongLi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkydoodles

Hey Avernicus!
So far only 1 person has really fallen for the blackhole, most of them seem to just use it to lure the CC out :(

That's what I would use it for if I was attacking haha.
August 17th, 2014
Avernicus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkydoodles

Hey Avernicus!

Since I liked the controlled chaos of HDT so much I decided to give this one a try.

So far only 1 person has really fallen for the blackhole, most of them seem to just use it to lure the CC out :(

All that said, the unusual shape of the base seems to do really well in keeping things safe so far. I just got attacked by a TH10 with a hog/giant combo and he didn't get more than a couple of storages because his troops were randomly running around the base. If it the blackhole thing doesn't work out I might just stick a storage in the landing spot or something.

The randomness of it all right? hahahaha xD it just messes with the AI and the attacker'll be like wth?! Why arent they going where i want them to?!

:rolleyes:
August 24th, 2014
Avernicus

Ups for the randomness! :rolleyes: which is also the life of this unusual base. :p
August 24th, 2014
enricosr

The elixir seem very easy to get. But quite a good base to protect gold and dark elix