This is completely off topic, but when i was watching your videos, I heard you using a mouse. Were you playing coc on your laptop by any chance? If so, then how?
This is completely off topic, but when i was watching your videos, I heard you using a mouse. Were you playing coc on your laptop by any chance? If so, then how?
Its not a base suited for holowiwi. But GoHoWiWi looks perfect for it. Checkout hulk's channel for some guides of GoHo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clashmasterxhhfsdvnm
I think he is using reflector or something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldWidePro
I was originally a hog user and got my hogs to level 4 before the Hero buff and have had to resort to using GoWiWi to attack other Mid Range TH9's and Low TH10's. GoWiWi consistently earns me two stars, but after losing our last couple wars by just a few stars, I'm looking to get back to using a strategy I know will 3 star. HoLoWiWi seems like a good strategy, and I'm anxious to try it out, but I only have lvl 5 balloons. Will this keep HoLoWiWi from being effective enough for a consistent 3 star? Thanks.
Yes. The difference between level 6 and level 5 loons is huge. The strength of holowiwi comes from its efficiency in taking out the ring towers. If suddenly I need twice as many loons to do that I would only be able to carry a handful of hogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabekid1
I was afraid of that, but figured I'd ask. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GodII
Hulk! That was an awesome video. I've watched nearly all of yours, waiting for the day that I get lvl 6 loons. (I'm about a week away, finally.) I'm truly impressed with your moral character. Too many of the really good gamers have huge egos and are arrogant. Keep it up. Many of us really appreciate what you do. On a side note, you'll do well in life with that demeanor.
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Originally Posted by jas1111
Thanks I guess man, Personally I think Rachel deserve all the credit for that video because she pin-pointed every major thing that one needs to do to achieve high level of unorthodox game play.
Always research and do it on your own.
Always understand every failure makes you stronger.
Always be open minded.
Always keep your ego in check because your going to get rekt at some point.
reserved for future reference :)
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...te+clash+clans
Check this out tho its pretty awesome lol
Hey can someone advise me, I'm in a war and one of their TH9s has the tsunami which I know is very vulnerable to holo. However my hogs are only level 3 (I have max loons) so I'm thinking of golwipe. Ive figured out I need 15-16 loons but not sure about the rest of my army. You guys have any advice for me? Churs
Hey hulk, what's the difference of your swarm holo - needle holo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
swarm is 11+ needle is 10 or lessQuote:
Originally Posted by athancoreextreme
Hey Hulk, epic vid! I'm in Rachel's clan :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
I'm wondering if I should completely study your vids to learn HoLoWiWi or not because if I do I feel I'll use the exact same army comps I see and end up asking how I should attack a base lol
Thanks bud! I look up to you...love your vids! Very helpful since I'm leading a small active war clan...Keep it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw0MER32cvYQuote:
Originally Posted by athancoreextreme
figured I better make a video
.......And maybe never leave after u join lol
Na but feel free to stop by check out our replays and holos if ur not busy
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Originally Posted by willsolvit
That's the beauty of utilizing hogs and loons. You tend to bring a different army composition every time. Hulk's videos teach you what to look for and how to plan an attack. Still up to you to figure out how to utilize them in your attacks. It is becoming increasingly rare to find cookie cutter bases in the enemy ranks. So learning where and when to use them is key. Think of it more of adding more tools to your belt.
My loons finally finished upgrading to lvl 6 and just in time as our next war presented me with a great holo base. I decided to take out the Northeast and Northwest with loons, kill squad attacking from the west, as they would be easily funneled to the AQ, and my hog attack from the Southeast. The loon drop went perfectly, even the extra loon I dropped to deal with a tesla that I correctly predicted would pop up. The loons then pulled the cc (a bunch of barbs, archers and a couple of wiz) and my kill squad went to work. I had an inkling though.. not enough troops came out of the cc. So i drop just 2 hogs to see if there's anything left in the cc. Nothing comes out. I drop my hogs and before they make it into the core, 2 wizards come out of the cc. oh no... I pretty much panic and drop my spells, but it didn't help. The wizards melt my hogs and I come up with 49% and zero stars..
I went back and looked, as I was sure the defense my two feeler hogs went after was inside the CC pull. It was, but my hogs were perfectly positioned to be the only spot where they could be outside of the CC pull and still bang on that defense.. My fault.. so mad at myself. Oh well.... it's a learning process. Looking forward to the next war so I can try again.
Jas1111, that sounds like a few of my attacks. I'm the slowest learner ever with HOLOWIWI. Still like the challenge. It's so obvious that it's a solid strat, I just panic and have terrible planning lol.
Hulk. Your videos are incredible. The way you take time to break down very seemingly minor, but strategically critical, points in attacks is excellent. I love what you are doing, gathering a catalog of unique and innovative 3-star war attacks and breaking them down. Even though your content is mostly TH9 and I am still not quite TH8, there is a ton to learn there. Trying to soak up every TH8 video in your channel in preparation. Early to mid TH8 mass dragons are still easy and reliable, but trying to be prepared for the future when things require a more calculated, tactical approach. Keep up the great work!
One more thing ... can you recommend anyone else on YT that goes into the depth and detail like you in breaking down war attacks? Most YT CoC videos I find are ♥♥♥♥.
Onehiveraids
That's my boys Jake channel he started up a bit before I visited one hive for the first time he is a good lad. Not one else I would endorse ATM but when I do find decent content makers you will know.
Great post green man. Yeah I'm a sub on youtube, but after doing 7 HoLoWiWi raids I must be doing something wrong as I've only had two 3 stars, three 2 stars and two 1 stars. Some of these none 3 star raids have been due to not enough time due to slow deployment, and one of the 1 stars was because giant bombs shat on me in the core. However this still leaves a few raids in which I have lacked the firepower to destroy the core and if I do manage to destroy the core, I can't pick up the 3 star with the remaining troops I have after leaving the core.
Tips would be appreciated as I kinda need a strategy such as this which isn't too dependant on heroes as I'm going to start upgrading them all the way to 20+ soon.
Thanks, spindlykiller
All I can say is... thanks so much Hulk for making this, you have really opened our eyes on how to scout and attack
http://youtu.be/wDcCCTEU9Dw
This is my first 3 star GoHoWiWi with my baby account, and while I certainly could have done things better (for example not send all hogs over those 2 double giant bombs lol, or switch deployment of heroes, or a number of other stuff :o), the attack played out (for the most part) as I had envisioned it, and it's all thanks to this thread.
Thanks again and keep making this great content!
I tried using this strategy, although I have lvl 5 loon only as of now. Putting them on upgrade next.
Here are my stats:
1st attack: 94% (2 stars): Didn't time troops well. Spend lot of time deploying balloons
2nd attack: 76% (1 star): Missed the strategy to kill Archer queen
3rd attack: 96% (2 stars): I think I missed 3rd star by 2-3 seconds.
After seeing my replays, I realized that I need to work on my timings. Seems this strategy will work good for me.
Thanks Hulk
You lost me here. What are talking about swarm, Needle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
Can you pin point the video/page where I can understand the context? Thanks..
He answered this two posts later. Here's his vid again:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw0MER32cvY
It helps in improving HolO attacks as I am pretty new into thisQuote:
Originally Posted by jas1111
I've been getting bored with gowiwi and wanting to try something different in war attacks. Is this base a candidate for holo? The depth of the wizard towers is what makes me question it.
thanks.
Try to train yourself not to look at holowiwi as the same composition. Just look for the efficiency of loons 1v1 against towers and if that is true for many, many towers go with the loons for most of the ring no matter what army you back it up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oigimsar
All i can say is thanks so much Hulk after all the hours I've spent watching your videos it has finally carried over as I just got my first 3 star with Holowiwi. Even though i failed with it so many times i was still inspired to watch your videos and get better. Thanks again man!
Thanks for the reply but I'm not sure i am following. I'm not looking at it as the same composition. I look at this base and it looks like a potential holo base...whatever troops may follow. Hulk spends significant time explaining how to scout bases and I am trying to confirm if i am seeing the correct things.Quote:
Originally Posted by hbjlee
http://youtu.be/ajP16B4_p-g
Thanks hulk.
HI, does anyone know what marker pen app @@? does hulk use to mark bases while scouting =)?
Thanks for the head's up. I checked out the aforementioned episode. Very informative of how important it is to kill the AQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilBabyBudgie
Any tips on proper funneling of the kill squad towards the AQ?
Thanks!
Heya 😊👍 hulk ,hey what would your standard gohowiwi comp be for th9 ,and if you were th ten what would the etxras be please mate? I would like to work on this comp a lot .. Thanks 😊👍 by the way love this thread and videos.. Much appreciated 👍
I had a friend write this so hopefully the english will be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oigimsar
What I am trying to say is that you are closing your mind a bit by looking at a base, seeing the strength of loons against the ring, and assuming that you have to hog the core. You should not consider it all a package attack and conclude that if you can't hog the core you can't loon the ring. What difference does it make if there are wizard towers that can't be looned? Destroy as much of the ring as is necessary and then decide whether or not hogs for the core is the best idea (in that case it looks like potential double giant bombs could be a bit of a threat so golo could work better).
There is no standard set of rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Churbo
cold blooded goho which is one golem being majority hog attack
shattered goho which is two golems being more of a strike force hog attack
So its just how much wiwi you need to carry then fill rest with hogs.
Nice work man!
Hey green man, just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to put this together and actually keeping up with it. You've shared some great info here that many have benefitted from. I've been practicing with the strategy and we've come across a clan where a lot of their top bases are prone to this attack, hoping to wow my clanmates with a 3 star or two vs. the 2 stars I'm used to getting with gowiwi/pe.
Thanks again.
Have fun mateQuote:
Originally Posted by warmbird
Can i HoLoWiWi this base? I've been trying to learn to use this attack and always fails.
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No. Watch Hulks replays to understand why.Quote:
Originally Posted by stapo34
See us maxed your base at th 9. Goodluck at th 10 👍💪
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Originally Posted by Waterboy91
4 AQ and barrack and dark barrack left.
I'm a newish th9 and did two holowiwis in my last war.
My first attack I 3 starred with lvl 5 loons. For my 2nd attack I had lvl 6 loons now, but didn't get a star lol.
Level 7 teslas towards the corners messed me up. The thing is I was trying to be really efficient with the loons so I could bring more hogs. I made 19 loons, but the ring was towards the edge and all one loon drops so I decreased the loon amount to 11. When those 4 teslas popped up in the corner I couldn't recover. If I kept the 19 loons I'd probably be okay.
So unless I'm reattacking a base, I'll probably bring extra loons just in case this happens again.
Thanks matey 👍👍👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
Then you rely on brute force. There is very much a point of diminishing returns thats why scouting is so key. You will either fail or 3 but at the end of the day thats how you win wars, by not settling for a 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakywizard
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...73#post3348673
Just wanna Market this idea in some hot spots.... See what everyone thinks might be fun.
Thanks for the strategy guides and continued updates for the thread. Congratulations on maxing your TH9 and being on your way to TH10. Is that the end for this strategy guide or are you going to start the th10 version for th10 wipes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
Im just dumping gold into TH to ♥♥♥♥ people off while I stream. Month or so away from TH10 since I am not max yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by choczombie
I have access to two other TH9 accounts, not sure if I will personally still be doing TH9 holo's. Really comes down to how much I hate or love TH10.
I think you will like low-mid TH 10. It isn't impossibly difficult to get 3 stars against almost any base with a good gohowiwi or the like but a lot harder than TH 9 because there's a huge defense boost but a small offense boost realistically (25 more space and another spell, but golems and wiz only get a touch stronger, hogs, loons, etc. don't really change). At high (starting to get zappers) th 10 it's pretty close to impossible to get 3 unless the base is horribly weak to hogs or lavaloonion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
Yo Hulk, I am wondering how many level 6 Loons would I send after a lvl6 air defense within range of a lvl10 archer tower and lvl7 wiz tower? And what order of deployment should I use to take care of all 3 defensive buildings? This is for a Holowiwi with two air defenses within the outer ring and two in the core.
Oh yes all structures are at least 6 tiles away, maybe even 8 a couple of them.
Green Man, another thank you for all the work as well as all the follow ups. I'm sure there are a lot of us that are watching your TH to see when it's done upgrading lol.
I still have a lot of practice to do to get a hold of how to scout a base and properly decide on a raid plan, but your info has changed the game for me. I just wish the rest of my clan would get on board...lol
Good luck at th10. we'll be waaaaaaaatching (creepy movie voice)
Lol! It looks pretty darn close to maxed. Congratulations on getting to champs as a th9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
I came across this few wars back.
Taking out ring with loons sprrad out without using any spell.At the end,using pekka and heroes with rage and heal to finish the core.Does it sounds like another strategy??
Looking forward for a reply from someone professional.
Don't see much of an appeal. Often with holo you are having to break a trash ring of storages with non defense targetting troops and whatnot before you get to the real core. If there are teslas in the core your pekka is screwed. Why bother with any of that when you can presumably hog the core easily with ample heal spells and have hogs for cleaning up instead of a slow pekka?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drvarun5179
Well I was first to attack the base. I get scouting, but someone has to attack first rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
Would you hogo or holo this? Im pretty experienced at both but want your opinions. The ADs pretty much reach every defense at 2 tiles besides the single corner defenses.
http://i.imgur.com/RvQP3KP.jpg
Only place for dgb seems to be between the storages. Take out sides not near aq and goholo imo
Hulk,
Any chance you can post any videos or discuss these types of attacks without heroes, mainly the AQ, at a TH9 level. Heroes really carry the battle, but when you are constantly ug your royals, there are always going to be wars without one or, gasp, both of them.
Thanks,
I just posted a vid of a 3 star Hologowi, without Queen, I made the other day. Not trying to butt into your thread Hulk, a lot of my developing Th9 attack strategies have been effected by considering the perspective and strategy in watching some of your videos, so thanks.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...55#post3386755
Waring without one heroes would hurt your clan so if you have people doing that they are just parasites and need to be removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 22Deuce2
Warring without a hero doesnt really change my over all raids i may hit a bit lower depending on AQ location of high ones.
After hitting a wall of 1-2 stars in war, I noticed an anti-hog base with all air defences in the core and decided "you know what, I just wanna be like hulk". Next minute I am sitting there, on the verge of a climax as I stared down at the 3 big stars in front of my face. I freaking love holo dude!:o
Haha, vivid stuff....Quote:
Originally Posted by DECoC
How do you decide whether or not to bring a golem to help with the queen kill.
In your terminology....how do you choose between a needle holo and a coldblooded goho when you could do either?
i have seen your videos, but i still need to ask. how to deal with skeleton traps, they are annoyance to the balloons.
and what would be the minimum required level for the holowiwi to pull of..
does hogs lvl3 and lvl 6 balloons and heal lvl5 can do the work? what about if one hero is upped.
i am fairly new to th9 (1 month) and i find holowiwi great.
i will only attack players with the same level as me.
more power to you!
thanks
finally able to 3 star using some of your advice. It's a base that I would never had 3 starred using my traditional GoWiWi. I watched your Tsunami vids a bunch and tried to scout the best I could. I think I get panic fingers and tap more than I mean to, and it doesnt go as planned, but still works out. Hoping for some criticism or possible alternatives to how i did it. Still have a lot to learn and obviously need practice, but without all your vids and info, this would never have happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMwN7Q6qCNc
Thank you so much Hulk i watched your videos and i love them very much.
I will try to upgrade my balloon to level 6 and use your strategies.
My balloon now is level 5 I think I can not apply your strategies.
Here's my queenless goholo. Just hoping you can post more stuff like this because gemming hero ug wait time isn't always something everyone wants to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkified
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcjeY0qR7Q&feature=youtu.be
You dont need to gem her out, you only need 1 hero to 3 star a base to a certain level. Since most mid-th9 are more about brute force. So if you have skill at it you dont need the brute force to hit that base for 3 star. Does that make sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by 22Deuce2
Hulk, big fan. Watched most, if not all yt vids. I really enjoy the strategy and logic behind your scouting, especially when the small things that aren't so obvious make such a difference in the attack. I typically use a Holo or GoHo strategy against the top TH9s in cw and I've come across this base a couple of times. I can't seem to 3 star it and I was wondering if you could scout it for me.
I have tried a Needle Holo, and Needle GoHoLo, and just GoHo, but always seem to come up short. The double giant bomb placement is difficult to path around especially when it's the first attack on the base. The first pic is of the clean base the 2nd is of my strategy.
http://i.imgur.com/imXsoqYl.jpg
My scouting strategy.
http://i.imgur.com/NBdhbGJl.jpg
After the update nd making AT twice faster than before, does max baloon have a chance with AT lvl 11?! Or 10?!
As i tried in regular attack the answer is NO. Correct me if im mistaken??!
if yes then sc killed arch raid and holowiwi
One of the things I find so rewarding about being in clan that's eager to push their limits is when they get that magical 3* against those 3* proof bases What's even cooler is when it's the lower level guys that are doing all the 3 starring
JayPharaoh - been with about a month - new town hall 9, but jumped his hog tree troops to max as quick as he could...3 *'d his first target in his first clan war with us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxqWQz68Ik4
One other thing I wanted to talk about that I know a lot of Town Hall 9's struggle with is how to take on town hall 10s. I put together a good video illustration of one approach for 2*'ing TH10s as a TH9. This has huge strategic implications if you can do this on the first attack...by 2*'ing a TH10, you free up TH10 attacks to go and hit lower bases...In clan wars (at our level), the game is at the TH9. Our TH9's can 3* these bases as well, but the TH10s have more tools at their disposal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk6uvWZ36cg
We have a couple approaches to them as well, and you'll be pleasantly surprised to know one particular loadout was capable of taking out the Golem Trap as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNOUNaNWDk
Hulk - we've been working on everyone's GoHo attacks and the practice wars have been yielding incredible results...we have guys in the 30+ rank hitting bases all the way up to #10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECoLFeJKy4A
good stuff man, will stop by while im on vaca from troopers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochaboy
hey hulk, i have recently started to war and i have been testing out new strategies
i have made an attack plan on this base but i'm not really sure if it will work nor if i'm scouting properlyAttachment 81867
just a reminder: i havent got my queen and my king is level 15 i really dont know if he, plus a golem, will be able to take both opponent heroes.
thank you
Any thoughts on how the new building HP changes affect hogs or holowiwi? Nerf, buff, or neither?
I`ve watched your videos and learned from your scouting strategies a lot for more than two weeks now. I`m in my mid TH9, Golem level4 , witch (level2 in two days), hogs (next in line after the witch), loons level6. Hit a wall using gowipe in clanwars always two stars, when lucky three stars. after learning and trying your scouting techniques, counting balloons and stuff, ive been pretty successful with three stars on mid th9 as well even if my hogs are just level4 (lol), I always end up using 12-16 hogs, 2-12 balloons, 1-2 golem, 3-4 witches on my CW raids, well it depends on the base, thanks to you man by letting us know not to rely on BRUTE FORCE. CHEERS!!
PS: BTW it works pretty well even after the update, but I usually double the loons in an (Single) Archer Tower to make sure that the archer tower will go down, I think the loons got a little nerf from the update IMO.
Thanks, Bro! This is an amazing post with very thoughtful ideas on how to scout and attack with a special combination of troops.
Since I entered Th9 for 2 months, I've been using dragloon or Gowipeloon for wars most of the time. While I got a lot of 3 stars with my strategy against mid TH9s, I also failed too many times when the opponents base layout are not suited to my strategy. When the enemy base get too many compartment, and the AD are not all located in the core, my strategy very likely end with a 2 star or even 1 star when luck not on my side.
However, with this holowiwi added to my strategy list, I may say I could face any kind of TH9 base with the confidence that 3 star can be achieved if dropping the troops and spell correctly. Hogs are extremely efficient in taking out the core when outer defense are taken by loons and CC/K/Q are attracted by Witch. I'll keep practicing this strategy until I can constantly 3 star any maxed Th9 base.
Hulk,
I'm sure you already know this but the xmas patch is causing a lot of headaches with the holo attackers...that minor HP buff for the archer towers and cannons pushed the level 10 defenses out of the 1 loon column.
One of our Holo specialists encountered this but luckily he had a backup plan and was able to pull through anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnCzVl6eVP8
Take note of the northeast and northwest gold cannons...each balloon dropped their bomb then crashed on top of them, but that's no longer enough to take those defenses out...pshhh
I am TH8 with lvl 5 balloons. Are there rules of thumb for how many balloons are needed for each tower?
For example, how many lvl 5 balloons does it take to kill a lvl 6 wizard tower?
How many for a lvl 10 archer tower?
Assume attacking a "spread" base so the balloons have to travel far.
Hey guyz xmas is over an soz the holidays but where is hulk has he stopped this thread?
I have been watching almost 20 to 30 videos of gohowiwi holowiwi and stuff..
needle holo swarm holo cold blooded holo..
I still do not get when should i do a GOHO and when should i do a HOLO?
Any experts here?
thanks to your guide.. i was able to three star a base..
though our clan still lose a close match 107-108..
Nice strategy:cool:
No doubt about that :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHero
I spent a long time soaking up what you're throwing down here.. I learned so much and I want to thank all of the contributors. This community makes this game amazing.
You helped me a lot. Also decided to wait much longer before TH10 so I can enjoy 3 starring everyone!
Hulk, we miss you! Where are you? How's the TH10 journey so far?
He has never loved COC more, going to TH10 was the best decision he has ever made. He can't wait to get farther in the journey:) This all his thoughts that I heard from him:)Quote:
Originally Posted by 22Deuce2
Read this guide few times over and studied the raids and what went good and bad. This is now my best attack strategy. Too bad people are getting smarter about the anti drag bases. Anyway thanks!
I`m not an expert but here`s my thought when it`s the best time to use any of the combos. If the base does have a "Hog Ring" where the ADs or most of the ADs are inside the core, you can use HOLO, Loons to target outside defenses and creating a path for your hogs thru the core, these loons may activate the enemy CC and lure them out of the CC as well. You can use GOHO if the ADs are covering most of the defenses structures and if the DGBs are inside or near the core. Just my thought, there are some other clashers out there that might have a better opinion and answer on your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by MervinMervinMervin
CHEERS!!!
Great guides!