Logic Behind Balloonian?

How does one farm with balloonian?
As I look at this widely used strategy, I just simply cannot figure it out.
Suppose you are Th9/10, and use 20 balloons (which is minimum.) This equates to a 160 build time, which is divided in 40 minutes per barrack, while costing ~100k to >100k elixir.
40 minutes and near 100k elixir.
thats not even including the time/elixir it costs to cook rage spells.
Now, the basis of farming is to use an army that takes up minimal build time and elixir, so you can continuously raid back to back in a 'session'.
So how do Th9/10 players farm with balloonian?
How do you pay for 5m+ upgrades when you raid almost once an hour? Not only that, but I don't see players looting more than 600k per raid.
My view of this is that, you raid, you queue your army, and you log off until its ready.
Using that perspective, does this not mean you are likely to get raided within that 40+ minutes of cook time?
Suppose you have a 5m upgrade coming up, and you saved 4.5m.
You log off, and get raided for all available loot. One attack is probably not enough to cover the amount you just lost, making it near impossible for you to save up, especially when you break shield.
So how do so many players find success in this strategy? What is that missing factor?
Note: I am not debunking Balloonian, I actually highly respect players that use this strategy.

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Originally Posted by Sanjyushi

How does one farm with balloonian?
As I look at this widely used strategy, I just simply cannot figure it out.
Suppose you are Th9/10, and use 20 balloons (which is minimum.) This equates to a 160 build time, which is divided in 40 minutes per barrack, while costing ~100k to >100k elixir.
40 minutes and near 100k elixir.
thats not even including the time/elixir it costs to cook rage spells.
Now, the basis of farming is to use an army that takes up minimal build time and elixir, so you can continuously raid back to back in a 'session'.
So how do Th9/10 players farm with balloonian?
How do you pay for 5m+ upgrades when you raid almost once an hour? Not only that, but I don't see players looting more than 600k per raid.
My view of this is that, you raid, you queue your army, and you log off until its ready.
Using that perspective, does this not mean you are likely to get raided within that 40+ minutes of cook time?
Suppose you have a 5m upgrade coming up, and you saved 4.5m.
You log off, and get raided for all available loot. One attack is probably not enough to cover the amount you just lost, making it near impossible for you to save up, especially when you break shield.
So how do so many players find success in this strategy? What is that missing factor?
Note: I am not debunking Balloonian, I actually highly respect players that use this strategy.

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Gold and crystal 1 do not use loons, the next costs are too high
Up to low crystal 2 use a few loons on top of bam.
then use 16 balloons 80 minions for 2 raids an hour, aiming for 200/200 plus bonus minimum.
Best farming is masters 1 and low masters 2 where u get tons of dark and you don't have to next all the time.

But you are correct, if i want to farm gold i drop to c2-c3 and use bam or bam like armies.
Only when i need dark it is important to climb and use balloonion.

As a TH9 who is farming at Gold 1 and 2, I find that balloonion is my favorite strategy. Yes, while it is costly in elixir, I use balloonion for gold and dark elixir. There are always bases that also offer up to 300k elixir, enough to cover most of the costs and a bit of the next raid. My amount of elixir has actually been growing instead of depleting, if not stay the same.

As for the time, I don't have enough time to do raid after raid until I hit my goal. My addiction for clash often forces me to ignore real life problems and continue playing. Using balloonions forces me to take a break in between raids so I can do whatever I need to do in real life. I find it convenient in that way.

As for loosing loot, I haven't been attacked for loot for at least a week into using balloonions. They are rare in Gold 1 and 2 especially if your town hall is outside. I usually get raided within 30 minutes of logging off.

The take away of this strategy is the ability to clear out all the storages. In batch or bam, I had to skip many bases because the storages were too far apart and were protected very well. With balloonion, I can easily take out all the storages instead of spending my time clicking the next button. Yesterday, I was able to obtain 1.5 million gold to upgrade my archer tower, and today I got 10 k dark elixir to upgrade my archer queen. I was able to do all this without spending too much time combined and too much loot lost.

Don't get me wrong, the cheap and fast armies like bam and barch are great. I've been using it too, but I feel like balloonion is my preference.

Sorry if my arguments don't make sense. It's late at night, and I'm not very coherent when I'm sleepy :p

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Originally Posted by Sanjyushi

How does one farm with balloonian?
As I look at this widely used strategy, I just simply cannot figure it out.
Suppose you are Th9/10, and use 20 balloons (which is minimum.) This equates to a 160 build time, which is divided in 40 minutes per barrack, while costing ~100k to >100k elixir.
40 minutes and near 100k elixir.
thats not even including the time/elixir it costs to cook rage spells.
Now, the basis of farming is to use an army that takes up minimal build time and elixir, so you can continuously raid back to back in a 'session'.
So how do Th9/10 players farm with balloonian?
How do you pay for 5m+ upgrades when you raid almost once an hour? Not only that, but I don't see players looting more than 600k per raid.
My view of this is that, you raid, you queue your army, and you log off until its ready.
Using that perspective, does this not mean you are likely to get raided within that 40+ minutes of cook time?
Suppose you have a 5m upgrade coming up, and you saved 4.5m.
You log off, and get raided for all available loot. One attack is probably not enough to cover the amount you just lost, making it near impossible for you to save up, especially when you break shield.
So how do so many players find success in this strategy? What is that missing factor?
Note: I am not debunking Balloonian, I actually highly respect players that use this strategy.

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From what I can tell...once you're in high crystal or masters, barching just won't cut it if you actually want to stay in crystal/masters....so, you need to bring in heavier armies to actually get your loot. About a month ago when I was TH7, I'd farm sometimes with loons and minions, and would boost my barracks, I'd have some really nice loot on some raids, and sometimes my loons would go the wrong way and I'd get wrecked. When I raid like that, I'm obviously looking for lots of loot to make it worth my while, but also, I'm practicing using certain troops and certain combinations for clan war at the same time. Also, it's fun switching it up every now and then, and not just use barbs and archers to attack with.

I just recently got golems, I used them on a few raids just to get the jist of how to use them, when to deploy my archers and rage spells, etc. I got good loot...but the first few times I crashed and burned, and even when I did get loot, I didn't make my DE back. But, the practice helps, and I'm sure most people don't exclusively raid with these heavy armies, it's just how often you can actually attack and play. If I know I can't attack for a while, I'll cook up a nice big heavy army.

There is something that called boosting isn't there?

I just like it because it is a fun strategy and I get practice for war!

Im not extremely try-hard about maxing my base like some people appear to be :(

Boosting a single barracks just about cuts that time in half. 11 in one 3 in the rest. Not too long of a build. Ive farmed most of the strats and yeah the faster builds are probably s bit faster if you have time to play a ton. If you prefer to raid less often the loons can be great. Im in m1 right now and was pushing but today started going after some farming bases and didn't do anything mind blowing but got 3- 3.5 mil gold plus some decent De. If I was more used to farming mode it could have no doubt been higher but pushing for over a week has me rusty. I'm generally a tier one farmer though in gold leagues which can pay more for me unless I improve a bit more.

If De is your goal loons can bring you in a decent 20-30 k profit in crystal leagues but Ive gotten double that in gold leagues with tier one so again loons are a bit slower for active raiders but good for less actives.

Thanks everyone! I think O understand it a bit better now

If you need to farm elixir, it isn't worth doing.

But if your main priority is to farm dark elixir, with a reasonable gold income on the side it is fantastic. Do this in high Crystal or Masters and you have the potential to crack those storages with 2,500 de or more as well as the drills - topped off by a nice league bonus. Overall you can easily net 3000+ DE every raid with it once you understand it.

One of the best dark elixir farming vehicles in the game.

But if you want just gold & elixir...I find you are better off hanging low with Barch/BAM.

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Originally Posted by gallantblade

If you need to farm elixir, it isn't worth doing.

But if your main priority is to farm dark elixir, with a reasonable gold income on the side it is fantastic. Do this in high Crystal or Masters and you have the potential to crack those storages with 2,500 de or more as well as the drills - topped off by a nice league bonus. Overall you can easily net 3000+ DE every raid with it once you understand it.

One of the best dark elixir farming vehicles in the game.

But if you want just gold & elixir...I find you are better off hanging low with Barch/BAM.

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In gold 1, I like 15 giants, 15 wiz, 8-10 wbs, and 2 valks, 1-2 healers...I'm in the center of the base in no time after a rage spell, and I get an easy 1k+ in dark elixir for my troubles. I alternate between this and Barch. Barch when I want gold and elixir, giwihe for when I want the dark stuff. I usually will make my money back with a small profit on that setup, but the main purpose is to get an easy 2 stars and that de