What Hero Change Would You Rather Have Implemented?

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Yeah people keep claiming they bought heroes, no such thing happened. They sped up time in the game using gems/tokens. They paid for a temporary advantage over other players and as per the TOS which clearly explains it, the game is subject to change at SC's discretion.

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Semantics, dude. What do you not understand about that? It's the same thing. It makes no difference that they simply "sped up" the upgrade or used gems to get the DE.

Mr. Spokesperson :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by nesnnesn

Complete mis-information about chargeback fraud. Here's the definition of "chargeback fraud".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargeback_fraud

Chargeback fraud, also known as friendly fraud, occurs when a consumer makes an online shopping purchase with their own credit card, and then requests a chargeback from the issuing bank after receiving the purchased goods or services.

Note "requests a chargeback from the issuing bank". No one is requesting the chargeback from the issuing bank. They are going to Apple, who is giving refunds. Is Apple a bank now? No.

So sorry, but it's not chargeback fraud. Stop scaring off people with lies.

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Yawn not so hard to understand. Apple functions as the bank and SC the online retailer. Players purchased through SC using Apple as the issuing bank then requested a refund.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Silly. Show me where I say I do not want people to get refunds.:rolleyes:

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Right where you tell people to "accept it and move on."

You can keep denying it, but people can see your full post below. I'll repost it again here, since you seem to forget things that you just posted a few minutes ago.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

You willingly put your tokens into the machine knowing the game was subject to change. Accept it and move on.:p

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It's as clear as day: you tell people to accept it and move on, so they won't get a refund.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

They have clearly explained their position on how gems function and how the game will change in the TOS. Ignorance of any sort is no defense. Again if you are going to spend enough money to miss on something, you should familiarize yourself with what you are agreeing to, luckily for part of this population Apple's policies supersede SC's.:)

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You really should stop quoting the ToS since it does very little to protect the interest of players as well as fair gameplay (see 3rd party softwares and multiple accounts). As far as i'm concerned my toilet paper serves its function better than the ToS.

All the ToS does is protect the interest of SC in terms of legal issues and has minimal consideration when it comes to player enjoyment of the game.

A company should be much more than what its ToS (a legal document drafted as a legal requirement to safeguard the company's interest) is.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Yawn not so hard to understand. Apple functions as the bank and SC the online retailer. Players purchased through SC using Apple as the issuing bank then requested a refund.

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For it being not so hard to understand, you seem to not understand it.

Apple =/= bank. That is pretty obvious. No matter how you look at it.
Bank = where the individual has an account that stores their money.

Apple = the online retailer, because any IAP will show up in a bank statement as charged by Apple. Chargeback would mean contacting the bank directly, and the bank would take the hit, not the online retailer.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Yawn not so hard to understand. Apple functions as the bank and SC the online retailer. Players purchased through SC using Apple as the issuing bank then requested a refund.

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Haha, you expect everyone to believe Apple is a bank?

How delusional.

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Originally Posted by BandOfBandits

Semantics, dude. What do you not understand about that? It's the same thing. It makes no difference that they simply "sped up" the upgrade or used gems to get the DE.

Mr. Spokesperson :rolleyes:

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You can not differentiate between what a product and service is? A product is an article or substance. A service is something someone does for you.


I wish.:p Village got raided twice during this debate. LoL

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Yeah people keep claiming they bought heroes, no such thing happened. They sped up time in the game using gems/tokens. They paid for a temporary advantage over other players and as per the TOS which clearly explains it, the game is subject to change at SC's discretion.

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Well yeah, technically it is. Just because there's no direct price of gem per heroes, doesn't mean that direct convergent from ingame resource to gem doesn't exists.

Look at it this way, heroes got nerfed, cost remains the same, training time remains the same, regen time remains the same >>> gem cost unchange >>>>>> gem value is decreased for that particular purpose while gem price remains unchanged.

Sure they paid for a temporary advantage, and that turns out to be not much of an advantage as it used to be (not as much, but way below), that's called false advertising.


@bold: there's a limit to everything. One cannot be immuned from criticism/accusation just because they put "game is subject to change" in their TOS. When a good game developer rebalance something, they rebalance all aspects of it, not just the base stats.

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Originally Posted by BandOfBandits

For it being not so hard to understand, you seem to not understand it.

Apple =/= bank. That is pretty obvious. No matter how you look at it.
Bank = where the individual has an account that stores their money.

Apple = the online retailer, because any IAP will show up in a bank statement as charged by Apple. Chargeback would mean contacting the bank directly, and the bank would take the hit, not the online retailer.

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^^
Exactly right.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

You can not differentiate between what a product and service is? A product is an article or substance. A service is something someone does for you.


I wish.:p Village got raided twice during this debate. LoL

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So gems are not a product or a service? What are they then? Semantics dude.

Lolol i wish i got sum free gems lol i not paid spokesperson no not me.

okay man, whatever you say :rolleyes: