TH8 Base Critique Requested

At the risk of much ridicule, I am presenting you with my TH8 base in the hopes that I will receive useful feedback.

This base is patterned off of a ragequit base that was posted on the forums a little while ago however, I am not able to find the original thread. When I took a look at it, I thought it might be a good base to modify to protect as much loot as possible. I have been using it in it's current configuration for about a week now.

Before people start to rip it apart, there are a few issues I am already aware of:

1) You walls suck. I'm a partial preemie and a brand new TH 8. Not a great combo. I am well aware of the suckiness of my walls, thank you.
2) Nearly all of your defenses need to be upgraded. Please see number 1 above.
3) It's not anti-anything. True, but it seems to be an unusual design. That alone can be enough to throw off an attack.
4) Where is your DE drill? Just have not built it yet. When I do, I have no idea where I am going to put it.
5) Get your fourth builder already, loser! I know, I have the gems. I just have not needed the builder yet.

So what I am looking for from this base is to protect resources, storages and collectors, as much as possible. I am using this as a farming base, the TH is shoved all the way in the southern corner. The Town Hall and CC are interchangeable.

Based on the input I have received in this thread, here is My Base 2.0:
http://i.imgur.com/ZohCA6i.jpg

I am building resources now, working to make upgrades, so I have been the victim of many more attacks. From the logs you can see that I lose elixer much more than gold. If elixer is worth more to you than gold, switch your storages around. Here are the most recent, non-TH snipe, logs:
http://i.imgur.com/YZ0B6fq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EoYa0rF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K5JXsXG.jpg

This is version 1, the first base I posted. Compare this to the base above and you can see the changes I have made:
http://i.imgur.com/AKLEz7C.jpg

As always, I am looking for useful feedback. Please don't tell me I suck, I already know that.

Your gold storages are in a line, try to triangulate them.

lol do you really need more critique than you have already given yourself?

IMO, not bad, not bad at all....

....gonna be tuff on barchers (I'd pass the base) --- of course, big 9s will strike the center but big 9s have their way with 8s much the same as 8s have their way with 7s.

I like it!!

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Originally Posted by thenextman

Your gold storages are in a line, try to triangulate them.

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Thank you, I will try to fix that.

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Originally Posted by Yelfiah

lol do you really need more critique than you have already given yourself?

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I am always open to new ideas and suggestions.

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Originally Posted by oldman

IMO, not bad, not bad at all....

....gonna be tuff on barchers (I'd pass the base) --- of course, big 9s will strike the center but big 9s have their way with 8s much the same as 8s have their way with 7s.

I like it!!

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I kind of figured 9's and 10's will be able to smash me :) Thank you for the feedback though.

I think you are too much scared of losing resources, you can't really protect them all especially against TH9s, and your TH is exposed so you don't need to worry that much about losing resources.

I'm not a big fan of the vault type with the gold storages. Would it be possible to switch a few with the elixir storage?

Also try to put your Archer Tower inside and try to make a pentagon shape with the other Towers.

You may want to have your Wizard Towers touch the storages. It deters a lot of Tier 1 troops.

It's pretty decent, but it can be steam rolled by TH 9 Giants but, hey, very few TH 8's can stand against TH 9 raids.

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Originally Posted by mario0182

I think you are too much scared of losing resources, you can't really protect them all especially against TH9s, and your TH is exposed so you don't need to worry that much about losing resources.

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I realize I am going to lose some resources, especially to 9's and above, but I don't want to just give them away :)

As far as the TH goes, there are a lot of 'impolite' TH snipers out there so I don't want to make it to easy for them either.

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Originally Posted by DinoGello

I'm not a big fan of the vault type with the gold storages. Would it be possible to switch a few with the elixir storage?

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Anything is possible :) I have the gold the way it is because it is more valuable to me than elixer right now.

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Originally Posted by DinoGello

Also try to put your Archer Tower inside and try to make a pentagon shape with the other Towers.

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I would if I could but I can't really find anywhere to squeeze it in.

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Originally Posted by DinoGello

You may want to have your Wizard Towers touch the storages. It deters a lot of Tier 1 troops.

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Kind of like the screenshot below? I throws off the AD triangulation a little bit but, if it makes it seem more intimidating, then it might be worth it.

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Originally Posted by DinoGello

It's pretty decent, but it can be steam rolled by TH 9 Giants but, hey, very few TH 8's can stand against TH 9 raids.

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Agreed.

Here are the changes I have made so far. Thoughts, ideas and/or opinions are always welcome.
http://i.imgur.com/QT3YY9V.jpg

Depending on the quality of troops of course: Your CC is one of you best defenses, and you dont seem to be using it at all.

I would switch the outside archer tower with the gold mine in between the 2 elixir storages.

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Originally Posted by Yelfiah

Depending on the quality of troops of course: Your CC is one of you best defenses, and you dont seem to be using it at all.

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Only because when I have troops in it, they are garbage. If I ever upgrade the caliber of troops in my CC I will look into centralizing it.

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Originally Posted by Boxcutter

I would switch the outside archer tower with the gold mine in between the 2 elixir storages.

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I would like to have all of my defensive structures inside the walls however, gold is more valuable to me right now so I think I will probably keep the mine inside the walls.

I only see this base design being useful if you plan on not tapping collectors for extended periods of time. I strongly suggest that you switch to a TH8 farming base that will have your storages in separate compartments and better protected by teslas and wiz towers. With your TH outside and if you log in at least 3-4 times a day just to collect then protecting your gold mines and collectors is just a complete waste IMO. Hopefully this helped, I came to TH 8 as a premmie and am now in my last month before completely maxing and moving up, so I have been here quite a while, PM me if you have any other questions or anything! Good luck! :o

I don't think your defense log is any indication of your base design. Your attackers have low trophies for your th8, and have th8, th7, and th6 level troops (respectively).

I cant agree more with several of the prior comments...
▪kick your resource collectors outside the walls
▪centralize your cc
▪try to move your aoe defenses more towards the interior, pushing single target defenses outward
▪why the strange space around your de storage? You're using more walls than necessary when you have no reason for the space.

Go to clashofclansbuilder and look at top rated plans. There are some good (and several ♥♥♥♥) base ideas there.

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Originally Posted by winkeh

I only see this base design being useful if you plan on not tapping collectors for extended periods of time. I strongly suggest that you switch to a TH8 farming base that will have your storages in separate compartments and better protected by teslas and wiz towers. With your TH outside and if you log in at least 3-4 times a day just to collect then protecting your gold mines and collectors is just a complete waste IMO. Hopefully this helped, I came to TH 8 as a premmie and am now in my last month before completely maxing and moving up, so I have been here quite a while, PM me if you have any other questions or anything! Good luck! :o

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The first setence here is the most important. If you're even semi active.. meaning able to check a couple of times a day there's really no need to have your collectors and mines inside the wall.. at least not all of them. You'll be in much better shape kicking these out and then use that space for the de drill and your archer tower items.

In doing this you'll fix a few other issues I noticed.

1) Because you're trying to protect to much you have very few outside buildings so I can use a couple of wallbreakers on a lot of parts of your walls without needing to throw out any distractions. There's just to many areas of direct access to wall.

2) I am whole heartedly against the vault style setup like someone else mentioned. I liken it to a percentage style. I can get to all of you're gold storages by only destroying half your base. Draw a straight line anywhere across the center of your base to see what 50% is and you'll see that I will touch all 3 gold storages. Try to seperate them out better across the base and in different segments so it takes more of a 75-80% destruction to get to all of them.

3) As stated, spread out your point def off-setting cannon/archer for better coverage.

4) The CC, I don't care that you mentioned it. It is your strongest def. I've seen numerous lvl 6 20 giant raids end as quickly as it started because they didn't take into account the 4-5 wizards in the cc. If your reasoning is you don't get good troops for you're cc, then you need a better clan. I would even say you can use it as a fake-out distraction. It's easy to just next a base when the CC is more centralized since you have to be cognoscente of it.

Lastly, it looks like you set the base as a way to be able to swap in/out your townhall but as a beginning th8 you'll want to focus on farming so you'll not really ever want/need to shove that th inside. With that, I would re-structure it a bit so that you are conserving walls and don't have that extra gap space.

When I was a TH8, I would have attacked this base with giants/wb and a healing spell to keep them alive until I had a safe path to your vault, then I would have dropped single barbs until I found a spot where they would go straight into the middle. When a magic spot opened up, I would send the BK followed by 30 more barbs and use his rage ability and clean that whole vault out before your mortars could fire twice. All without even destroying 50% of your base.

People are criticzing your vault setup for a good reason. It is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Snarg

Here are the changes I have made so far. Thoughts, ideas and/or opinions are always welcome.
http://i.imgur.com/QT3YY9V.jpg

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My BAM army would enjoy raiding this base from the North. I'd nab 2-3x gold, 1-2 lix (ones outside, woot!) and possibly your de as they are all in your core. Welcome to TH8, SPREAD OUT YOUR STORAGES! And put CC in your core, who cares of the troop levels inside. Enemy troops stop attacking buildings when CC arrives = distraction, right? Also your traps need to be inside for optimal usage. gl

edit: to truly test out your base, get into gold league.

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Originally Posted by Snarg

Anything is possible :) I have the gold the way it is because it is more valuable to me than elixer right now.

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1. If gold really is important, then switch some elixir storages with the gold storages. Once the attacker opens the compartment in the middle, all your gold is his/hers.

2. Centralize CC and request for archers, minions, or wizards. Make sure its not barbs, goblins, wall breakers, barbs, or giants.

3. Take out your mines and collectors. If you check at least twice or thrice a day, you'll be fine.

If multiple people keep suggesting you to make the same changes, chances are they are right. Just try it out, and if it doesn't work, then switch it back. You'll never know if you don't try.

Based on input received in this thread, I have made some changes. As always, I am open to useful input. Thank you for your time.