http://i.imgur.com/8ablu5W.jpg
Took a while for someone to come against us with sucker punch, sadly it wasn't a max TH9. I thought its was a extremely easy base to 3 star and it was. Video will be up later.
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http://i.imgur.com/8ablu5W.jpg
Took a while for someone to come against us with sucker punch, sadly it wasn't a max TH9. I thought its was a extremely easy base to 3 star and it was. Video will be up later.
@ Hulk .. You are a Skilled Attacker ... This is meant to rock suckers .
Have been use this base for past 3 clan wars ... Its fun watching ppl Fail !
One war in with the layout.
Results for two attacks.
Mass L3 Drags (11 drags) = 1 Star
TH10 GOWIPE (But L4 Golem) = 2 stars
4 Defenses 6 attacks, Best was 1 star last war I was in. 3 Mass dragon defenses, including 1 of all lvl 4 dragons, and 1 Hog defense. The 1 stars were Gowipe and Hogs with a couple dragons to get the 50%.
War #10
http://i59.tinypic.com/3eqm8.jpg
A hog attack failed, but the maintenance break wiped the log.
Defense log of 46% 1 star loss by a town hall 9 using dragloonian
http://i58.tinypic.com/veogba.jpg
Goblins stay in the clan castle during air attacks and just obliterate ground troops after.
http://i57.tinypic.com/10s5hde.jpg
The base is well put together. But it's not consistent. I got 3 defends and 2 losses. 1 2 star and 1 3 star. The 3 defenses were all from the top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn9c...6xTNbaclC-Gyfw
Yea nate, I will record it if it shows up in a troopers war again. Like i said in my thread the AD and northern Cannons would help make the HoLoWiWi more expensive(14 loon minimum) but I think traps are just not effective enough stop 20 hogs. High level AQ would pose more of a threat then the springs.
Neat base, but a GoWiPe army should be able to 2 star this base with ease, possibly 3 star with good spells, cc units, etc.
http://youtu.be/cY9d7UJi90s
My 1st video ever, took me ages to figure out how to do every step on just an iphone.
Set it to public mate
http://i.imgur.com/jvRPfDx.png
How about now?
Got 3 star by a gemmer th10 with a gowipe attack
http://i.gyazo.com/774c0d46fd5539c14a93ada0dd4a3a26.png
So far so good!
First time using this base gave me 2 won defenses and a 1 star.
Mass drag from the south: 11 lvl 3 drags, rest archers= 34%
Gowiwi from the south and west: maxed wizzies but low golems and queen= 39%
Mass drag from the south: one of my cc troops lured the drags right over the th= 31% but a 1 star
Would this base get the same results if you flip it?
I was planning on turning the base upside down for the next war, should be fun =D
Finally got 3 starred by Heroes and mass dragons yesterday.
Attacker sent his lvl 12-16 heroes from the bottom and cleared out most of the storages. Then 11 lvl 3 dragons went straight to the base.
I'm still a premie though and this is my first 3 star out of about 8 attacks.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1256-h565
Worst GoWiWi I have ever seen in my life. He deployed his golems, wasted 3 spells on them and waited for them to die before sending in the rest of his troops to their peril. I can't say it's a good base just because of this defence, but you can add this to your stats if you like. I will test it again next CW.
So I said the other day that I would flip this base and I did!
http://i.imgur.com/YlnNFm1.png?1
War Starts in a couple hours, I'll post and show how well it holds up!
After watching the video Hulkified of attacking the hog version of this base i made a few modifications. Will be testing this version out to see if it holds up.
Hulkified would this variation slow you down any, that HoLoWiWi attack was just insane.
http://i.imgur.com/0jqNxr1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tJ2bhio.jpg
Hey Nate, think it'll be a good idea to replace the de pump and dark barrack with one of those free storage from the bottom? It'll keep the attackers busy longer while your weapons dish out more damage.
Against any other attack the spring traps are simply wasted...The loons from the top will take out the towers (so the giant bombs won't be useful up there) and the giant bombs on the bottom will only be somewhat useful as the hogs are under heal or double heal down there anyway.
So in my opinion it isn't a good change.
2 Freeze or 2 heal/rage around the 4 air defenses together can easily take them out together. Without air defenses, the rest is cake. (I am referring to mass drag or loonian in this case)
Also, Gowipe or gowiwi can take out any TH9 for at least 2 stars by a skilled user, 3 stars for this base too
Very true, hard to keep skilled townhall 10's with all their toys from bashing a townhall 9. This base helps eliminate that by drawing in the average sucker.
Posted the wrong pics, i think this might be slightly better. I do think i still need to move the giant bombs from the north.
Here are the images from our second war.
Four attacks -> 3 Defends
1 One Star.
http://imgur.com/a/HrAQ9
DID NOT WORK AS INTENDED!
Got tore up from the floor up with hogs. The guy knew where were all my bombs were and took them out which pretty much opened up a door to put my booty on the floor.
Gonna turn the base around next war, base looks funky upside down anyways.
Tried this layout for the first time this past war and got three-starred by gowipe. I'm a mid-level TH9 FWIW.
Had a war again and attracted in 5 suckers, none of which got more than one star. :)
Attackers used hogs, balloonion and dragloonion.
It looks like a good base, looks to easy to crack but very difficult really. I did GoWiPe 3-star a base identical to this about a week ago, so GoWiPe can take this design out.
It would surprise some young bloods, but any good player knows the forums and knows the bases. So its 14 loons north thats more expensive. I would attack via south wizards so that would be just 2 springs so 2-6 hog lose but ur taking 26 and 20 left would be enough to take core.
Its really the issue of no surprises but then out of all the millions of people who war very few watch base threads.
I suppose that is slightly better, and ya agree about the forum bases i seem to be getting hit slightly harder these days.
I did get to test this design and it help up better than i expected, going to post a video soon. We only war once a week so getting tougher to make changes these days.
I have been using this base for the past two weeks or so. Funny to watch all the fails. But whenever I get go wiped its an easy two star. I have seen fails from mass drags loonion and a one star by hogs and wizards
Oh man got my first lvl4 dragons with freeze spells attack and actually managed to hold out. The funny thing is that like 3 dragons with rage were on my TH and then were pulled off with 1 hit left by my cc troops and they flew right over my TH without finishing it. Would have been a sure 2 star if that random act of god didn't happen.
http://i.imgur.com/wvuSRBE.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/e8K15WH.png?1
Changed up all my bombs instead of stacking double bombs which saved me, although that guys AQ must be different than everyone else's because it was attacking my gold storage and elixir storage and then just ran down to my TH and took it out.
I am really loving this base, and my clanmates are loving the defends I am putting up.
Here is an album of our latest war.
http://imgur.com/a/gtthw
tl;dr 6 Attacks
5 Defends
1 One Star
Running total = 12 Attacks
1 Two star
3 One stars
8 Defends
I'll put this base to the test and put some logs.
Looks good based from the previous responses.
Thanks for sharing this base.
I made a couple of modifications to the design, but don't think they really compromised the base. 2 starred - 13 lvl 2 witches, 1 lvl 5 golem, and 2 lvl 5 pekkas, with heroes and spells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc_KXhWPYtA
I have been using this base for around 2 months and it is working very well.*thumbs up*
Well after this update i think i need to hit the drawing board again "Sucker Punch" and "The Offerning" (my farming base) just got tossed to the garbage with the addition of Lava Hounds and elixir into walls. I am defenatly not excited about the lava hounds specifically, they sound pretty over powered. However i am excited to try and come up with a new way to defend my townhall 9 base in clanwars.
Do you think its a complete redesign and close the book on "Sucker Punch" or try and tweek it for the new update?
Got on star after a gowiwipe attk. He used lvl 5 golems and lvl 4 pekkas. The got the th and 49%. I am using the modified sucker, stronger vs holowiwi.
Nate imho, the ads are deep in the core and if the attker drops 2 hounds, the 4 ads should clear them fast enough before the loons or dragons come near them.
Yep the LAV's will make your south a extremely easy 2 for sure.
Looks like it's meant to hold the attacker to one star- the town hall, and no more than 2 stars. Looks nice.
You misspelled Balloonion" in the OP.:p
@Natesmiles !!
Update this base !!
I use this base since July 13th.
Now,with new troop,update this base.
Latest "Sucker Punch" tweak.
http://i.imgur.com/UgHkv3D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/17v9fei.jpg
I separated the air towers slightly to make it near impossible to lightning. The pathing for hog in the south has also been adjusted to try to keep then out of the core. Moved air bombs for update.
This is an untested design for after the update, but I think it will do well. I will post some more logs soon.
http://i.imgur.com/JO3Q8jZ.jpg
Used the latest version of this base, first time using it in war and got attacked once and got 3 starred by a th9 with gowiwi... My defenses are all one upgrade away from max.
I got 2'd pretty easy with GoWipe attacking from bottom lvl 1 golems, first attack. Skull walls few legos, Xbows lvl 3 but havent started my teslas yet so those are still 6.
You must get lots of really bad attackers, like the guy below. Also lot of the wins seem to be against Giant attack...I don't think I have ever seen a giant attack against my bases as a TH9.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2rmo95g.jpg
I do like the base and will keep for another war or 2...it seems easy to 2 but tough to 3 so if I can waste more attacks as they try and go for 3 it will be worth it.
that looks really good and solid. i am using the same base as you at the moment. let's see how will it work :D
I got the idea from Godson on Youtube to add three goblins 3 Wiz and rest archers to war castle. Gobs have highest dps and if they dont get lured out will destroy hogs and giants..... which they did!
First defense: Attack from the South
12 Balloons lvl 5
7 dragons lvl 3
5 minions lvl 3
BK lvl 7
AQ lvl 5
3 heal spells
1 rage spell
Time 54 seconds = 31% and 0 Stars
Second Defense: Giants from the North and Pekka w/ heroes from the north
19 giants lvl 6
1 wb lvl 6
9 wiz lvl 6
2 hogs lvl 3
3 pekka lvl 41 witch lvl 1
AQ lvl 9
BK lvl 10
5 archers lvl 1
1 rage spell lvl 4
1 lightning spell lvl 5
3 heal spells lvl 5
Time 1m 54s = 49% and 0 Stars
PM me to teach me how to successfully load pics and I will share the results if you want or need to see.
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3rd defense: Attack from the south
10 dragons lvl 3
5 wiz lvl 5
BK lvl 6
2 rage level 5
1 heal level 5
total time 1m 40s = 30% zero stars
4th defense attack from the south west
11 dragons lvl 3
BK lvl 7
AQ lvl 5
6 giants lvl 1
2 heals lvl 5
2 rage lvl 5
clan castle
total time 1m 36s = 81% 1 star
Finally on the fifth raid they got two stars. looks like someone in their crew was smart and used the hogloon strategy
5th defense, attack from the north with balloons first, took out northern defenses, then dropped hogs to go right into center. hogs died by my AQ and Bk but they had just enough wiz to get the town hall barely.
17 max balloons
18 hogs lvl 5
11 wiz lvl 5
11 archers lv 6
10 wbs lvl 511
BK lvl 10
3 heal spells lvl 6
1 rage lvl 5
AQ lvl
6th defense
some idiot with lvl 4 troops tried and only got 17%. not even worth detailing what they used.
Nice work Nate.....
I downloaded the " imgur " app for my iphone to upload pics easily.
Just take a screenshot, go into the app choose the photo . . . . upload . . . . then get embeded codes . . . . BBCode [IMG]whatever the link is[/IMG]
glad you like the base and happy it is working out so well.
yes, goblins are crazy on defence if used correctly.
Been 3 starred with a maxed th9 except some walls, heroes,archertowers 3 times now by gowiwipe.done with this base.
I know but I wouldnt say that guy was good, he had lvl 1 golems, level 1 pekkas, and lvl5 BK and lvl 4 AQ he just brute forced it up from South, nothing special about it.
I do think the base will be tough to 3 but its just odd some of the screen shots posted are from people with max GoWi* troops and are failing to get past 1 star.
if the guy 2 starred you with lvl1 golems/pekkas he must know what he is doing . . . it could be an alterenate account for him?
btw the latest version should fair much better gainst golem based attacks, i personally dont like the hog variation of this base. i relize double bombs are one of the tools to stop hogs, but i also know that you dont always need them to stop them either.
I am a brand new TH 9 with X-Bows and the new AD at level 1 and the new Archer Tower at level 3. I have not started either the new Wizard Tower or Tesla. My old walls are skulls and my new 25 are yellow. I just had my first war and was attacked twice for a single star.
First Attack: 18 Level 5 Giants, 11 Level 5 Wizards, 1 Level 1 Pekka, AQ 3, BK 5. 36% No stars Attack from SE
Second Attack: 30 Level 5 Hogs, 1 level 5 Pekka, 5 Wizzards (I think both level 4 and 5) 64% One star Attack from N.
I was # 15 in our clan. #7-14 all got 2 or 3 starred. Good First Start
Hey Nate, can you send me a full pic of how the base looks of possible? Some things are cut off from the other pic. Also, are the xbows ground? Or ground/air?
Thanks! Can't wait to try this in war
my base is only th9 and i was attacking my enemy which use ur base layout..
check this out bro..
http://i60.tinypic.com/2ec2cly.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/2ytthy9.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/2hdyzao.jpg
only by 8 pcs balloons for sweeping the arc tower and lure the cc.. then 32 hog lv5 + heroes + wiz 1 arc bar + cc(fill full hogs) :D
I made certain small changes to the base to spread out the ADs and not let lava hounds distract them all. Also I added storages around ADs to tank against dragons.
PS: I use a farming base in war in anticipation of distracting attackers and wasting their attacks. The TH can be easily switched with the DE storage.
I haven't been attacked yet but I'll update if I lose. Using a similar base for DE farming too. Still in Gold 1, will update on how it performs in crystal.
PPS: Yes its rushed. Working on those walls and teslas and heros now! :D
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Hey mate some news on your base?
We had 2 back to back easy wars so I didn't get attacked at all.
I'm using a "similar" base for farming with 6/8 storages inside the base and I'm doing good.
There were 2 serious attacks wherein 1 guy barch-ed from 6 o'clock and got to DE storage with his AQ (all tesla were upgrading). I lost 1200 DE then.
In the second serious attack, a revenge, the attack got giants from 4PM side but the giants ran into spring traps and the attacker wasted a rage spell due to funneling. The archers still made it to the DE storage (again all teslas on upgrade) and wizards got 1 gold storage but that's all.
Overall happy with the setup. In gold 2/3 now. This is the farming base.
http://imgur.com/weFgAYI
As I said, most are TH snipers who are happy to take the under-developed storages placed down South. I lose some 30k each and happily take the shield. There were 2 solid attacks and I'm sad both got to my DE storage. Though I believe with teslas working the result could have been drastically different.
I think the base scares off giant based army due to hole in the walls on both ends and gold league doesn't see much of hogs or loons anyway.
I'll update logs if I get anything interesting! :)
My OCD couldn't let me sleep so I did some streamlining. The CC is not centralized by its temporary since in Gold league its important to cover storages from barch than cc. Most people dont bother luring unless its a seasoned attacker. So I'm taking that chance.
Yet to get attacked with a full army even though I believe I'm holding enough for max th9 loot. I'll dump most gold on a tesla before the shield runs out and lix will have to wait. Saving up for Archers 6. Also, 53 xp for level 100, yey!
https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-...5-19-47-39.png
Base is still going strong. I changed up most of the base to fit with the times. Moved the TH to the core of the base for the extra protection. Also spread out some building on the outside of the base to force troops to go around the base instead of inside it.
http://i.imgur.com/75CNEJo.png
Haven't gotten 3 starred ever and only get 2 starred a couple times by people way outside my level. Most of the time I never even get attacked.
I love this base.
So I think nates isn't looking in this thread anymore or smthg
Where will you guys put the 4th mortar?
I did neglect this thread a bit, my phone broke so i lost some data i wanted to post ... things snowballed from there.
I moved to a new clan which wars constantly, however i now get attacked a lot less???
My Current Base
http://i.imgur.com/qN40gWl.jpg
Needs some adjusting, but should hold up fine. Oh and ya i finished legos and started on lavas ...
Thank you for making this base and sharing it :) Thanks to you, this base helped me win our latest clan war. 4/5 defenses won, and I got 1 starred once by mass dragons that mainly attacked the outer buildings.
i feel hogs can touch this. how is it holding up against them?
I actually came across this thread not knowing that the base we just three starred yesterday in a war was using this design (albeit with much lower level defenses) and was an easy 3 star with dragon and 4 lightning and cc loons. Now, if he had max defenses dragon/lightning wouldn't have worked. But I hope people who are looking at this design know that with most of these if you don't have the max defenses that the base creator has (or the same level heros) then DO NOT expect the same results.
That being said it's still an easy three star for me. I'm a lavaloonian attacker. It's what I do and it's clearly the best way to three star th9s (I'm a th9 myself) and 2-3 star th10s. So I have level 5 minions, lvl 6 loons, and lvl 1 lava hounds (upgrading). When you put the air defenses close together like that it makes it really easy for me to destroy you with 2 hounds/21loons/minions. I'd probably go 2 rage and 2 heal since you've made it really easy to hit all of the major defenses with just two rage (they're all in range of 2 nicely placed rages). Then I'd just heal as needed. The WORST thing for a lavaloon attack is SPREAD OUT Air defenses. Makes it difficult to get the loons to go all the way across bases and kill them in time, let alone the minions. Spread out air defenses also makes it harder for dragons and any other air attack combo. Balloons that are outside of rages are incredibly slow and ineffective, so imagine 4 rages being sprawled out across your base (kind of around the wiz towers) - you'd be destroyed. The loons would travel fast and hard thru everything.
So take my advice and spread out the air defenses a bit more or someone who actually knows what they are doing will dominate this base. It's an extremely easy 2 star and a very 3-star-able base (and for a maxxed th9 that's bad). Looking at the defenses you've shared (the screen captures) it looks like you have hardly come across a real attacker that knows what they're doing. Anyone that uses archers in a war attack doesn't know what they're doing - that's a fact.
Not trying to be harsh, just trying to help.
http://youtu.be/X4mH1hKjgxw
My only response is this video of a townhall 10 using a similar attack. However i do agree this base is very exposed to air attacks, but with maxed defenses you will not be getting the 3rd star.
2 and 3 stars against a th10 is possible with the right kind of th10 matchup. Meaning base design, defenses, heros, etc allow for it (or if it's a rushed th10). Also depends on your own hero levels. I don't take videos, don't have time and don't know how (if you want to tell me how then I might upload one). If you doubt the effectiveness of the lavaloon then I point you to this thread:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...own-hall-10%29
Also drag/loonian is a completely different attack than a lava/loon so by posting that as a response that doesn't refute it. You might as well post a barch attack. It's just apples to oranges. The best defense against a lava/loon is well placed air defenses that are spread out. Any lavaloon attacker would agree to that. Bunching up air defenses makes it easier for us.
I agree bunch up air defenses do make it easier for lavaloons, i posted the video because it was "similar" to what you were talking about. In my experience with this "base" is that don't fair well against it. I have been hit by lava/loon before and well they did not do as well as this drag/lava/loon attack.
Either way it is an easy way to get 2 stars on this base with a fail factor of say 30%
Natemiles ! I am using ur base now. I like your base. I think you changed your base little bit after patch. How is it doing? Is it better than the one recent update on page1? I have fully upgrade th9 with level 8 wall.
Hi there Nate!
I would personally swap heroes xbows then swap the xbows in their new position with the centralised ATs, so that the heroes will drag troops away from TH and into the core.
Another option would be swapping the two AD further away from TH with heroes for the same purpose and then maybe swap an archer tower with one of the air defences.