Unfair war matching!

Recently my clan went through a series of wars that somehow are unfair. When we first faced a stronger clan my members told me they were stronger when we lost but I said no perhaps they are better players. And my clan is 90% active I kick inactives after every war to prevent missing attacks. I wanted to post about it previously but I thought I'd read some older threads that may contain explanation such as members activity (which is not a problem) and members number so I raised from 35 up to 45 and pressed the start war button. What do I get? A clan that has over 10 members levels 100-130 while I only have 2 members at level 100. I have about 5 th 10s 18 th 9s and the rest th 8s while they have 11 th 10s 25 th 9s and the rest th 8s. I thought that ones of the main stuff taking in consideration while matching was the th and exp lvl! We are not even close! They are attacking with golems witches pekkas valks max levels while we barely have a few level 6! In 2 hours they have 79 stars! And for me I know my clan and how strong and well organized it is but up for a clan its own level, not way stronger! Like for me before that update I used to pick number 7-15 on the map to attack. Now 17-23 and I'm a th9!
So I demand Supercell to check out this problem happening a lot after the last update and fix it immediatly. We can't stop wars because game will be boring and at same time we can't war and keep losing.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Emilo

Recently my clan went through a series of wars that somehow are unfair. When we first faced a stronger clan my members told me they were stronger when we lost but I said no perhaps they are better players. And my clan is 90% active I kick inactives after every war to prevent missing attacks. I wanted to post about it previously but I thought I'd read some older threads that may contain explanation such as members activity (which is not a problem) and members number so I raised from 35 up to 45 and pressed the start war button. What do I get? A clan that has over 10 members levels 100-130 while I only have 2 members at level 100. I have about 5 th 10s 18 th 9s and the rest th 8s while they have 11 th 10s 25 th 9s and the rest th 8s. I thought that ones of the main stuff taking in consideration while matching was the th and exp lvl! We are not even close! They are attacking with golems witches pekkas valks max levels while we barely have a few level 6! In 2 hours they have 79 stars! And for me I know my clan and how strong and well organized it is but up for a clan its own level, not way stronger! Like for me before that update I used to pick number 7-15 on the map to attack. Now 17-23 and I'm a th9!
So I demand Supercell to check out this problem happening a lot after the last update and fix it immediatly. We can't stop wars because game will be boring and at same time we can't war and keep losing.
Thanks

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We have been running into the same thing. Our clan has lost about 5 in a row. 4 of them have been completely unfair with the match up.

Can SuperCell post the specifics on how a clan is matches against another clan with the wars?

Thanks,

-G

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Originally Posted by UncleGregg

We have been running into the same thing. Our clan has lost about 5 in a row. 4 of them have been completely unfair with the match up.

Can SuperCell post the specifics on how a clan is matches against another clan with the wars?

Thanks,

-G

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I have read them before.
The main specifics on how clans are matched are:
-th level.
-members exp level.
-walls level.

There are also a few more stuff but those are most important.
But non of the three above have been a good match for us.

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Originally Posted by UncleGregg

We have been running into the same thing. Our clan has lost about 5 in a row. 4 of them have been completely unfair with the match up.

Can SuperCell post the specifics on how a clan is matches against another clan with the wars?

Thanks,

-G

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Taken directly from the Clan Wars FAQ
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Clan-Wars-FAQ

Clan Wars Matchmaking

How are clans matched for a clan war?
Clan wars matchmaking matches clans based on the strength of their members. Unlike multiplayer battles, trophies have no influence in determining your clan wars opponent. After an opposing clan is found, the war immediately starts. There’s no “nexting” in clan wars matchmaking.

How is strength calculated in clan wars?
Strength is based on each member’s attacking power (troops, army camp capacity, spells and heroes) and defensive strength (defense buildings, walls, traps and heroes). Different layouts and base designs do not affect strength. The only way a member’s strength can be changed is if they upgrade their troops, defenses, spells, etc.

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Originally Posted by Jumpei[Supercell]

Taken directly from the Clan Wars FAQ
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Clan-Wars-FAQ

Clan Wars Matchmaking

How are clans matched for a clan war?
Clan wars matchmaking matches clans based on the strength of their members. Unlike multiplayer battles, trophies have no influence in determining your clan wars opponent. After an opposing clan is found, the war immediately starts. There’s no “nexting” in clan wars matchmaking.

How is strength calculated in clan wars?
Strength is based on each member’s attacking power (troops, army camp capacity, spells and heroes) and defensive strength (defense buildings, walls, traps and heroes). Different layouts and base designs do not affect strength. The only way a member’s strength can be changed is if they upgrade their troops, defenses, spells, etc.

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Thank you explaining how it works. But they are way tough than us according to everything you mentionned above.
I am just posting this requesting to fix it in case there is some problem with the system.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Jumpei[Supercell]

Taken directly from the Clan Wars FAQ
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Clan-Wars-FAQ

Clan Wars Matchmaking

How are clans matched for a clan war?
Clan wars matchmaking matches clans based on the strength of their members. Unlike multiplayer battles, trophies have no influence in determining your clan wars opponent. After an opposing clan is found, the war immediately starts. There’s no “nexting” in clan wars matchmaking.

How is strength calculated in clan wars?
Strength is based on each member’s attacking power (troops, army camp capacity, spells and heroes) and defensive strength (defense buildings, walls, traps and heroes). Different layouts and base designs do not affect strength. The only way a member’s strength can be changed is if they upgrade their troops, defenses, spells, etc.

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The top player of my clan has BK 19 and AQ 19. The top player of the opponent clan has BK 40 and AQ 40 and the second one has BK 30 and Q 30. Even the weakest one is really challenging for 50% of our clan. We can see by naked eyes that there are no fair here.

Well we have been matched by a lot of toughies.. But we won 9 wars and have around 13k-14k trophies total.

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Originally Posted by DeathVillage

Well we have been matched by a lot of toughies.. But we won 9 wars and have around 13k-14k trophies total.

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Trophies have nothing to do with it. Mine has 20k. And we all win toughies, not impossible ones against maxed out villages.

my clan has 5 th9 17 th8 and the rest th7 and th6 and when we start the war we noticed that the other clan has 4 TH10 8 TH9 and the rest th8, we dont even have a TH10 how are we supposed to fight back against 4 TH10 who are almost maxed with almost all troops maxed??? no one in my clan can take at least 1 STAR from the enemy clan not even the strongest in my clan, that is totally unbalanced and unfair!

We've experienced the same several times. For one example, in the last war prior to the one we're in now the top 10 players on the opposing team were all higher than the highest player on ours. Since this was only a 30 person war, that alone was significant. Couple that with their lowest member being around 20 levels higher than our lowest and it was a complete mismatch.

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Originally Posted by KenpoJuJitsu3

We've experienced the same several times. For one example, in the last war prior to the one we're in now the top 10 players on the opposing team were all higher than the highest player on ours. Since this was only a 30 person war, that alone was significant. Couple that with their lowest member being around 20 levels higher than our lowest and it was a complete mismatch.

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i am number 6 of my clan in war and i cant go against the first 12 of the other clan how is that balanced?
i know that wars have nothing to be with trophies, it is based on defense lvl, attack lvl and town hall lvl but all i see is supercell giving explanation how the matchmaking system works and not explaining what is happening with this really unfair wars

Out of our last 5 wars, 3 of them have been with top 50 clans, many of their players have maxed everything. We don't have one player with maxed everything. Our top player is just starting level 10 walls and has level 30 heroes, our bottom player is th9 not maxed.

So even SC's explanation of how matchmaking works clearly isn't working properly if these kinds of mismatches can be continuously happening.

We have a new war policy which says if we are matched with a top 100 clan then clan members don't have to attack - better to save their resources to upgrade stuff than waste them on a war we are never going to win. A few of our higher level players are still using their war attacks in these mismatches to gain experience attacking maxed bases but no-one is obligated to attack.

As I see it, Supercell need to either sort out the matchmaking algorithms so it doesn't keep happening or enable a white flag option based on a set of built in rules which specify white flag can only be employed if the mismatch meets the rules. But the first option would be preferable - just incorporate the rules into the matchmaking system and problem solved.

thnx to this my clan lost the unbeaten record no one could take out even 1 star to the 4 th10s which are almost maxed and we dont even have a maxed th9

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Originally Posted by YuseiFudo

thnx to this my clan lost the unbeaten record no one could take out even 1 star to the 4 th10s which are almost maxed and we dont even have a maxed th9

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For me it's been a while I am in th 9 and the village I have on war map is incredibly complicated. They only were able to take 1 star 4 times in the past 2 months and 2 stars only one time. In that war we faced they were way stronger that they could 3 star my vilkage after a 2 months streak.