Be honest with me....

Once I have all defenses and troops maxed at TH9, is it really worth it to farm LEGOS AND HEROES anymore at TH9.

i was adamant pre update to get all legos and core to lavas (currently only have 55 legos) and getting bk and AQ to 25 each.

i dont know about you guys, but my aim in clash is to max to the best of my ability and push once completed and eventually (yeah i know :rolleyes:) get into my top10 local, complete all achievements and maybe get into top200 who knows.

the thing is, TH10 has all of these awesome goodies, freeze spell, infernos, more camp space (25 troops incl cc) can go a damn long way not to mention a fifth spell.

Why should I stay at TH9 any longer than I should just for walls and heroes, considering the update.

Your thoughts?

First of all, I'm a TH8. Even at here, I'm having difficulty to farm for skull walls, with not even 50% done. All my defenses are max, even the new mini bomb L5 @1M each, all will be done in <2 days.

To me, the term "max all" now means "except walls" and some DE stuff, such as heroes and lab DE.

I will move up TH.

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Originally Posted by CuteBoboi

To me, the term "max all" now means "except walls" and some DE stuff, such as heroes and lab DE.

I will move up TH.

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Couldn't agree more with this statement.

Any other thoughts?

It's more of a case of does the extra tools allow you to farm more efficiently given that hitting TH8s is off the table.

I also share the same question as the OP. I have always maxed everything including my walls before upgrading the TH and my plan is to stay at TH9 until I have completed Lava's. Curently I am maxxing the lego's as I continue to keep my 5 builders busy with upgrades but it will come to a time when I have maxxed everything apart from the walls. I know it will be harder to farm at TH10.

When i maxed out all def structures at TH 9, and walls at level 8 (at least 2 WBs to take down), i upgraded to Th 10.

So far i have no regrets, farming is still good. And, this time with additional def structures esp the ITs.

If your builders become bored most of the time, go up to TH 10.

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If you have lvl 8+ walls then i think you are fine, if you're going for top of the local leaderboards or top 200 then you'll need to upgrade your walls definitely.

At least get your core walls as high up as possible, depending on what you're protecting there it's not that much to upgrade.

You should read Sharonsym's posts, very helpful for people deciding to rush or max.

upgrade, do walls later

I always do walls almost as soon as I get the next th to prevent this decision

IMHO, Sharonsym is different. He's a very active farmer and finish the walls BEFORE all the buildings finish upgrade. Therefore, the storages and collectors are overflowing and the logical decision is to go up TH to be able to dump the extra higher level walls.

I'm the opposite, I don't have the time and skill to even farm level 8 walls (skull) by end of TH8. However, I did finish all level 7 walls during TH7.

Think about this. I hire (slavery without rest day :p ) builders. They are supposed to work 24x7 as long as I have gold to hire them for work. Seems like they get more greedy by quoting higher and higher prices for building upgrades.
Once all my buildings are done, they are not supposed to laze around for days/weeks/months while laying 1-2 bricks (walls) a day. If I leave a bunch (4-5) of them sleeping or lazing around, that's productivity down the drain.

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Originally Posted by stretty

Couldn't agree more with this statement.

Any other thoughts?

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With the loot penalty it becomes harder and harder to get the required amount of loot for upgrades... stay with TH9 until you are absolutely upgraded in heroes and walls

Is it Halloween or this this a necro thread :-)
Sure he went to 10 ages ago.

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Originally Posted by ZeroSight

I also share the same question as the OP. I have always maxed everything including my walls before upgrading the TH and my plan is to stay at TH9 until I have completed Lava's. Curently I am maxxing the lego's as I continue to keep my 5 builders busy with upgrades but it will come to a time when I have maxxed everything apart from the walls. I know it will be harder to farm at TH10.

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I maxed out my defenses as a th9 and thought I was in the clear. Looking back I wish I finished legos at th9 :( I was farming in gold 1 and crystal 3 with huge success at th9 usually hitting the abandoned th8s and such. Coming up to th10 really throws that option off of the table now. I guess I underestimated the transition, and the league jump I would have to be in to farm! My personal opinion is I wish I stayed in th9 until I finished legos!!!
(ahh sorry saw this thread in the recent ones and didn't check the date my bad!
THIS IS OUT OF DATE!)

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Originally Posted by CuteBoboi

IMHO, Sharonsym is different. He's a very active farmer and finish the walls BEFORE all the buildings finish upgrade. Therefore, the storages and collectors are overflowing and the logical decision is to go up TH to be able to dump the extra higher level walls.

I'm the opposite, I don't have the time and skill to even farm level 8 walls (skull) by end of TH8. However, I did finish all level 7 walls during TH7.

Think about this. I hire (slavery without rest day :p ) builders. They are supposed to work 24x7 as long as I have gold to hire them for work. Seems like they get more greedy by quoting higher and higher prices for building upgrades.
Once all my buildings are done, they are not supposed to laze around for days/weeks/months while laying 1-2 bricks (walls) a day. If I leave a bunch (4-5) of them sleeping or lazing around, that's productivity down the drain.

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I think it is a matter of "priorities". If you can max your TH8 defense, you have the skill to get most of skull walls. A skull wall only cost 500k, while a Lv6 WT cost over 2.5mil... You choose to save up and do the defense, but you can very well just spend those $$$ in walls.. On the other hand, some rushers choose to spend all their $$$ in walls first as they farm fast and wall cost no time to build.

I personally choose to sit in the middle. I save 1 builder just for farming walls, so I can do 2-3 raids and get 500k and then upgrade 1-2 walls a day at least (or 2-3 walls if I am lucky), and then save the rest for upgrading building. It will take longer for sure, but then i don't run into problems of having a lot of GOLD (elixir is a problem though) lying around and not know where to spend, or the problem of having a lot of free builders with not enough GOLD.

TH8 do require a lot of planning, as lab upgrade outpaced building, so if I want to have everything MAX, I think having a builder free will allow more balance.

I know I'm a bit late, but staying just to upgrade walls and heroes would be a waste of your time as a couple of your builders would be wasted(assuming you have 5). I would have upgraded to th10 at that point.

I think it is worth to do heroes to combined lvl 40-50 with 50 or so lavas and rest legos

It really depends on what your goals for the game are. If you really are just interested in pushing and finishing out the achievements then upgrading to TH10 is the way to go. The extra DE drill will help with heroes and maxing your defenses will help protect your loot. Then you will have plenty of time to work on walls. The only real reason to max th9 is for clan war purposes, but if clan wars arent your focus in the game then there is no real need to linger at th9.

So many people in these types of threads always talk about "wasting time" or "not being efficient" ....what always pops in my head when I hear that is WHATS THE RUSH!?!?!?

COC is a great game that we all devote a decent amount of time to, I don't know why people are in such a rush to get to TH10?

If you have maxed out troops and defenses, you can proceed upgrading your TH.

Skull walls are okay as a TH10 if you ask me.
2 max wb's are needed to destroy skull and lego walls.
But, if you goin to the top thats the time you up your walls.

Maxing out all walls and heroes before upgrading TH while builders are asleep and an inactive lab is not a good idea.

If you eventually want to max your walls, you should do it at the because gold and elixir are better than at th10. Focus entirely on the walls and upgrade heroes only as a bonus as you get enough de. de is much better at th10 but g / x worse. Make the most of the strengths of the levels.

Sleeping builders doesn't matter, getting and spending the most loot matters much more, as at some point you will spend it.

With bigger stronger armies you might think you will get more g / x but you generally won't. Th8 bases get as 50% loot prawn penalty, so your profit drops. Th9 bases are harder and require more troops (which cost more too). Nexting costs more gold and you will do more of it as you skip th8 bases. DE however will increase with extra drill and the bases you hit well generally have more de.

Not another one of these threads.

The answer is really quite simple.

Is your end goal a completely maxed out base (lvl 11 walls, 40 royals, etc)? If so you are best to stay and optimize loot at lower Th's, maxing everything. Lavas are exponentially more easy to do at Th9 than 10.

Or is your end goal to get infernos and a max offense asap? Walls are less important for these people obviously.

Bottom line: Do you just want to be another average TH10 with weak walls/heroes, or do you want to be a ridiculous 9 going into 10 that's probably better than most 10's before you even begin?

Maxing defenses are always the easy part. It's the walls and heroes that take the time. Idle builders are inevitable as you approach end-game anyway and especially when you farm high lvl walls.

A good compromise would be all legos and a lvl 20+ heroes at least. That would be the minimum before I'd hit upgrade (max lab, defenses/structures of course).

Then again, I always maxed everything and I encourage most of my clan to do so as well. What's the rush going up to 10? 9 is probably the most fun TH in the game.

I don't know about in higher levels since I am in TH7.

But, what I do is to space out builders, so that one will be free at one time while the other three are building. Then, before upgrading the next building, I will use the extra gold for upgrading the walls since walls uses no time to build.

That way, I have upgraded all my walls to level 7 before all my offenses are fully upgraded. I am in the process of maxing my defenses now.

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Originally Posted by Legendinyou

It really depends on what your goals for the game are. If you really are just interested in pushing and finishing out the achievements then upgrading to TH10 is the way to go. The extra DE drill will help with heroes and maxing your defenses will help protect your loot. Then you will have plenty of time to work on walls. The only real reason to max th9 is for clan war purposes, but if clan wars arent your focus in the game then there is no real need to linger at th9.

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A lot of truth here as far as it does all come down to preference. But youre wrong about staying a th9 helping your clan. It does not help your clan war draws. It hurts them.

I'd go up to TH10. I didn't fully max my TH9 when I moved up. Loot isn't as bad as people say. TH9s suffer from bad loots just as much as us TH10s. Sure the penalty can be a nuisance but it's just a small drawback. TH10 has a lot more to offer and brings a new life to the game.

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Originally Posted by dleach

So many people in these types of threads always talk about "wasting time" or "not being efficient" ....what always pops in my head when I hear that is WHATS THE RUSH!?!?!?

COC is a great game that we all devote a decent amount of time to, I don't know why people are in such a rush to get to TH10?

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These are my thoughts as well, almost exactly.

I went as far as I could while enjoying the game still, which took me to 20+ heroes and full lego walls.

I was stuck working on walls for a month and a half I think, with idle builders, simply because I knew I wasn't going to touch walls again until I was basically maxed out on def at TH10 (which I almost am now, 1 more cannon to go, lab is 100% maxed). This sucked because this was back when elixir was not an option for walls whatsoever, so it was gold only, and sitting on almost full elixir for a month and a half. That's why it took so long.

Now I'm just starting to dump all elixir into lava walls and soon, all gold will go there too, until all lavas, then all zaps.

I'm hoping TH11 gets released before I finish my zaps, or ideally just as I'm about to finish them.

I felt this was a great time in the game to go to TH10 (when I finished legos and had 20+ heroes). But ultimately, it's about doing what you enjoy.