The WKM Th9 De Protection Farming/Hybrid Base

So as a follow up to me last base the "WDM" (Walls Don't Matter) I bring you the WKM or Walls Kinda Matter, for 2 reasons, If I said they didn't matter, I would be a hypocrite, and in this case walls can be used effectively to stop armies.

Here is the hybrid version I used for testing:

http://i.imgur.com/onu8kkM.png

And here is the farming version:

http://i.imgur.com/HzFXjHP.png

Below I attempt to recreate different scenarios.

Hog rides go around a loop, like any other base. In this base there is no double giant bombs, aha I did is I made it look easy to break the ring at the bottom, by spacing out some defenses. If they manage to take those out, the hogs will follow the red path, and get blown to bits (especially with the new update) I see it happen over and over.

Loons normally come in from the top, as its the fastest/closest path to the de, Now with a Ad in the core 2 upward bows, and ALL the air mines, Most of the loon army is gone before it gets to the core, remaining minions get killed by air towers.

Giants if used right can get to the core, But you need to know the right place to attack from. If you come from the bottom, your giants will go out to the sides, leaving your attacking troops to get blown up by mortars and Gbs. If you go from the top, they take a very slow route, all the way around the base, going inside and out the funnels, hitting springs. leaving the attacking troops getting spread apart, with no cover.

http://i.imgur.com/s9iEwIr.png

Wall breakers, coming from the top, they try to make their way to the core, but with bows, mortars and wts firing at the main attacking force, they get taken out pretty quickly. if you come from the bottom, it looks like a straight shot right to the core. But in the picture the was see that there is no building behind the first layer of walls in the mote, so they run to the other end of the compartment to blow up those walls. If the ends are blown up, it will go for the first layer in the mote. If the attacker deploys more was, they will target the core and go boom! giant bomb, it always gets wbs and the troops around it. Now if the attacker finally gets the core open, he sends in his final goblins and attacking force to get the de, then BOOM BOOM, 2 more giant bombs kill incoming last resort troops, for a final failure.

http://i.imgur.com/x3DRG2I.png

Lightning spells, normally they win and get the de. But I uh.. have teslas near by… and some air mines… so...

http://i.imgur.com/7w0vNr1.png

I will soon be posting logs, currently I don't have a lot of legit attacks, mostly elixir snipes and attempts to barch the elixir.

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nice base! i might make a th8 version of this like i did with nzxt's base. i might be able to be the master of making th8 versions of higher lvl bases!;)

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Originally Posted by firelizard

nice base! i might make a th8 version of this like i did with nzxt's base. i might be able to be the master of making th8 versions of higher lvl bases!;)

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haha Gl, should be to hard to condense it down, lots of extra space in it, keeping it anti hog may be harder.

Very nice! Let us hope we can make bacon faster with the new update!

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Originally Posted by Avernicus

Very nice! Let us hope we can make bacon faster with the new update!

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Hopfully lol, Im thinking it will do good against vales, lots of spread buildings.

looks good, wonder though if hogs will be used enough to need an antihog base though.

Looks good, will try this when the update is live.

Been looking for a DE base with TH inside

this looks awesome, gonna test it out for myself

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

Hopfully lol, Im thinking it will do good against vales, lots of spread buildings.

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Yup. And her dps is kinda slow though.. But yeah it'll work against the shield maidens.. I mean axe maidens*..

Wow, looks really nice :)

Niceee! I like 😄

Very nice looking base, I have been looking for ideas for a solid de protection base. This one looks very promising.
I think I might just try this out and will post some defensive logs when I get a chance if I do...
Thanks for sharing and posting.

Nice base! I made one to defend against Hogs and Barch. I will try yours later.

Another fantastic looking base, good job!

This is a very well done base, I like it! :)

Keep up the great work, your bases are so cool :D

Love your base :D . And walls too :cool::cool:

Looks tidy. Definitely need th9 defense to maximize the base. Just upgraded from th8 to th9 and running this base for a test run in both normal base setup and cw. Look forward to seeing it grow!!!

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

haha Gl, should be to hard to condense it down, lots of extra space in it, keeping it anti hog may be harder.

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True, i think i might want to take out the anti hog because of the new update.

I like the base, I did some modifications to it by centralizing the heroes and I've woun 2/3 defenses with both x-bows upgrading! So I really like it so far! ;)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...7-02160456.png

Great design ! So cool.

do you think it's efficient for Clan Wars ? Must have to be tweak a little bit (DE storage put out / champ centralized ...) ?

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Originally Posted by Isdrydge

Great design ! So cool.

do you think it's efficient for Clan Wars ? Must have to be tweak a little bit (DE storage put out / champ centralized ...) ?

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Its actually really inefficient in clan war, you get the win when people go for the de, but you can easily get 2 stared by barch, the th is right up against a funnel, I've seen people get it with just barch.

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

So as a follow up to me last base the "WDM" (Walls Don't Matter) I bring you the WKM or Walls Kinda Matter, for 2 reasons, If I said they didn't matter, I would be a hypocrite, and in this case walls can be used effectively to stop armies.

Here is the hybrid version I used for testing:

http://i.imgur.com/onu8kkM.png

And here is the farming version:

http://i.imgur.com/HzFXjHP.png

Below I attempt to recreate different scenarios.

Hog rides go around a loop, like any other base. In this base there is no double giant bombs, aha I did is I made it look easy to break the ring at the bottom, by spacing out some defenses. If they manage to take those out, the hogs will follow the red path, and get blown to bits (especially with the new update) I see it happen over and over.

Loons normally come in from the top, as its the fastest/closest path to the de, Now with a Ad in the core 2 upward bows, and ALL the air mines, Most of the loon army is gone before it gets to the core, remaining minions get killed by air towers.

Giants if used right can get to the core, But you need to know the right place to attack from. If you come from the bottom, your giants will go out to the sides, leaving your attacking troops to get blown up by mortars and Gbs. If you go from the top, they take a very slow route, all the way around the base, going inside and out the funnels, hitting springs. leaving the attacking troops getting spread apart, with no cover.

http://i.imgur.com/s9iEwIr.png

Wall breakers, coming from the top, they try to make their way to the core, but with bows, mortars and wts firing at the main attacking force, they get taken out pretty quickly. if you come from the bottom, it looks like a straight shot right to the core. But in the picture the was see that there is no building behind the first layer of walls in the mote, so they run to the other end of the compartment to blow up those walls. If the ends are blown up, it will go for the first layer in the mote. If the attacker deploys more was, they will target the core and go boom! giant bomb, it always gets wbs and the troops around it. Now if the attacker finally gets the core open, he sends in his final goblins and attacking force to get the de, then BOOM BOOM, 2 more giant bombs kill incoming last resort troops, for a final failure.

http://i.imgur.com/x3DRG2I.png

Lightning spells, normally they win and get the de. But I uh.. have teslas near by… and some air mines… so...

http://i.imgur.com/7w0vNr1.png

I will soon be posting logs, currently I don't have a lot of legit attacks, mostly elixir snipes and attempts to barch the elixir.

Logs:

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This base looks really nice! BTW you TH Sniped me two days ago :)Attachment 50124

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Originally Posted by AntVenom

This base looks really nice! BTW you TH Sniped me two days ago :)Attachment 50124

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I recognized the name from the forums, I didn't think it was actually you haha

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

I recognized the name from the forums, I didn't think it was actually you haha

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Could I possibly replace anything in the core for the AQ? Centralized heroes may help in the next update

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Originally Posted by AntVenom

Could I possibly replace anything in the core for the AQ? Centralized heroes may help in the next update

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I don't plan to, if you want for the farming version you could stick 1 hero in the core. Or do a big revamp that may alter its efficiency. The core is 12x12 so it holds 4 3x3 buildings each way. So you could give it a shot.

This is a nice, well thought out base. Good job!

Come on vinny post the lvl 35 aq healer raid

Nice base, but it looks weak to the new jump from the bottom or sides.

Will need both heros in the core after the update, it's going to be as absolutely mandatory as CC in center is now. Just won't make sense to have them anywhere else, not by a long shot.

Rooting for this base, love your work Vinny, we'll just have to wait in see how "bad" the update really is.

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Originally Posted by ClashinZach

Come on vinny post the lvl 35 aq healer raid

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No ;) Heh

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Will need both heros in the core after the update, it's going to be as absolutely mandatory as CC in center is now. Just won't make sense to have them anywhere else, not by a long shot.


Rooting for this base, love your work Vinny, we'll just have to wait in see how "bad" the update really is.

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I normally have 1 upgrading, and can fit one inside with the farmer version

using this base now looks good

Great base as usual, vinny. :)
Lol my th8 version of this has been out for a while. :P
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...lipilification

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Originally Posted by Sphinx

Great base as usual, vinny. :)
Lol my th8 version of this has been out for a while. :P
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...lipilification

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WOW, thats incredible, where did the extra 25 walls go! Excellent job! Looks a lot nicer then expected from a revamp to a lower th. *claps*

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

WOW, thats incredible, where did the extra 25 walls go! Excellent job! Looks a lot nicer then expected from a revamp to a lower th. *claps*

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Thanks!! It works quite well.
Lol, I don't even know where I took 25 walls from.

Nice base :)

I would move both top spring traps outward one square so they serve as both giant and hog spring trap.

Setup and using got my first decent attack earlier.... No de taken. This base works great so far.
I also changed some things around switched out hero for the elixer storage since I've only got my jump spell to do soon left in the lab... I also moved the east and west corners out one to fit the hero's in there close to the core for now. I'll prob change this up with the update today.
I will report back with logs as this base holds up.
http://i59.tinypic.com/20r352o.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/v6fc.png

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Originally Posted by Renny

Setup and using got my first decent attack earlier.... No de taken. This base works great so far.
I also changed some things around switched out hero for the elixer storage since I've only got my jump spell to do soon left in the lab... I also moved the east and west corners out one to fit the hero's in there close to the core for now. I'll prob change this up with the update today.
I will report back with logs as this base holds up.

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Glad its working for ya!

vinny would it be more effective to put the heroes inside were the 2 mortars are because of the new update?

Will give this a go vinnie and report back with Defence logs sitting on 120k DE atm.

I personally find it funny that you have invested so much time and effort into your walls and yet you say that walls dont or kinda matter, Lol.

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Originally Posted by Hulkified

Will give this a go vinnie and report back with Defence logs sitting on 120k DE atm.

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You know that there is no different in loot available between 120k DE and 50k DE right? Do you mind upload video as well? So we can see the strength and weakness?

Thanks.

I found by tweaking the left and right side openings, its strengthened the sides. It's to easy for giants to walk through. Even with the spring trap. I've close it off forcing them to walk from the top down. I've been smashed via the air with both max dragons/minions and max ballons/minions.

Going to continue to work with this setup. Even for war. Just need to tweak air defence.

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Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o

You know that there is no different in loot available between 120k DE and 50k DE right? Do you mind upload video as well? So we can see the strength and weakness?

Thanks.

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Its just easier to say what I have tho. I had some decent ones before maintenance and lost them will have to wait and see now but yea I will upload some.

will try this base for our war tonight.. hope it will work. :D will keep update once war is done..thanks

i visited your base before you posted it on youtube and the forums, looked good so i tested it out a while back. it defended twice against hog healer, but i then got attacked by around 35 hogs and the hogs got into my core. The base held up against giant healer quite well. gonna try this base out again with a slightly modified version, nice base never the less.

This is beautiful...good for losing all ur gold and elixir!

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Originally Posted by L00tM0theR

This is beautiful...good for losing all ur gold and elixir!

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Can you read? it says de protection..

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Originally Posted by L00tM0theR

This is beautiful...good for losing all ur gold and elixir!

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Considering it says de protection, and that I have 2 storages outside, I'm not sure why you would say such a thing...

Super sexy Design! Love it! How can I use this base as a Th10? If its possible can you tell me how to protect my gold and DE with both Infernos and Xbows and so on? Because your base is for TH9's but i love the Design!:p

Yes, it is a beautiful and well-crafted design... I struggled with it some weeks back a la the poster above but believe this is likely to have been as a result of so many defensive upgrades in progress in a relatively early TH9 at the time. Vinny, in the spirit of how much the walls (and defensive units) KM, is this particularly suited to later TH9s?

http://youtu.be/hLab8rQe4gI

Bump for vinny's reply and an interesting and innovative design. Hulk, your video was very interesting btw, thanks for posting! Are you finding your current mods work - presume they haven't been fully tested in gold2?

love it! Ima use it for my war base!

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Originally Posted by Hulkified

http://youtu.be/hLab8rQe4gI

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can't win against everyone…. my de gets taken maybe 1 time a week with my hall inside.

This is a very nice base, I have been using it for a week, however, I recently had a TH8 attack me from the bottom with L5 balloons and L3 minions and completely took all my DE.

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Originally Posted by JimmyGHS

This is a very nice base, I have been using it for a week, however, I recently had a TH8 attack me from the bottom with L5 balloons and L3 minions and completely took all my DE.

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this base relies on traps, you need to have all airmines up, bows on air, and a cc full of wiz or something else thats powerful. Most people coming from there with loons never succeed.

Very true Vinny, there is always someone out there who will wreck you. I have only lost 4k DE in a week which I am very much fine with.

Got a new video uploading showing a good attack from the bottom but it was a no-trap attack, as well as my entire 8 day log.

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

this base relies on traps, you need to have all airmines up, bows on air, and a cc full of wiz or something else thats powerful. Most people coming from there with loons never succeed.

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All traps, bombs, xbows, etc. were all up and running. He breezed through and took all the DE.

I just started using this base and while I'm a newer TH9, its served fairly well without xbows. Only issue I have seen is a few people will hog from the north and clear out defenses first and send in archers to clear out center. They usually also will pick off the bottom part as well.

Besides this kind of attack, it's served well to protect DE. Maybe upgraded teslas and xbows will help with this.

Doesn't protect DE against lightning. 1/10 base


I like the thought that was put into this base. I can do some testing with it but I like my own farming design now...

wdm was getting three starred for me so ill try this one out in war, but I still need elixir for farming so ill try to do something maybe with heroes?

im always giving out the max available so giving up 5600 including drills isnt too bad per week. Basically someone got to my D.E twice in a week. I break shield about 4 or 5 times a day too

Im an almost maxed th 9 and LOL, nobody (yes nobody!) got my DE while im using this base! Thanks to the creator! Keep up the good work.

ps. Ive been using this base almost 3 weeks in gold 1- crystal 3

Just started using this base yesterday and it has been an absolute beast - very happy with it.

So far, I've been attacked 6 times and have won 5 of those. Of those six attacks, attackers have only taken a total 58 dark elixir from me...AWESOME!!!

10/10, great base.

good base vinny. kinda works well for me even though lots of def upgrading and level 1 bows..hehe

where should i put the elixir storages at the bottom?

This is a great base! Never got two starred or lost more than one gold storage with it :)

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

This is a great base! Never got two starred or lost more than one gold storage with it :)

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Anyone still using this w/ the 4th mortar? Best place to put it?

Middle traps look somewhat pointless. I feel like the big bomb could be used better. Just nitpicking tho :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Braveswagger

Middle traps look somewhat pointless. I feel like the big bomb could be used better. Just nitpicking tho :rolleyes:

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The middle spring traps are for hogs if the ring is broken at the outside archer towers. The big bombs in the center are to protect from a barch rush or a wizard army etc because that's the weakest area for the de and it is a de protection base.

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Originally Posted by shmeeg

Anyone still using this w/ the 4th mortar? Best place to put it?

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Sadly I can't help you with that one because I'm now a TH10 and no longer use the base :/

You look legit but to tell me a real loon attacker wouldn't attack from the bottom is ♥♥ to me ( I mean that in a non confrontational tone)- a real loonion, or lavaloonion attacker would attack from bottom destroying the one ad, and only real threat. Then in the core with rage spells increasing their power and protected by the lava hound or houndS and the remaining loons ( all included in the rage) would eat through the core. With better ad placement this base could be serious defender but at this present set up, it's easy 2 star especially if the attacker has a lava hound in cc.

:) That's still a great base design.:thumbsup:
I will try that.
- Flamessy

:thumbsup: Good thinking.
Would you like to post that kind of base here too.
Clash is about helping eachother, right?
- Flamessy

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Originally Posted by Scodales83

You look legit but to tell me a real loon attacker wouldn't attack from the bottom is ♥♥ to me ( I mean that in a non confrontational tone)- a real loonion, or lavaloonion attacker would attack from bottom destroying the one ad, and only real threat. Then in the core with rage spells increasing their power and protected by the lava hound or houndS and the remaining loons ( all included in the rage) would eat through the core. With better ad placement this base could be serious defender but at this present set up, it's easy 2 star especially if the attacker has a lava hound in cc.

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