The Valkyrie Strategy Guide

http://i.imgur.com/ha9hkro.jpgThe Valkyrie Strategy Guide
So the most recent update is featuring some buffs to both Valkyrie and the Jump spell. Valkyrie will now purposely target multiple targets. This is huge because it’s functionally a huge situational attack bonus. Now toss in a rage and its going to be huge DPS on compact base designs.

The jump spell is also functionally an AI change. Troops now will recognize that the jump spell offers a better path, rather than ignore it unless already within its radius. This means if I miss 1 or 2 wall pieces that a unit may target, as it is now, they will go to the area where the spell is in effect rather than attack that 1 or 2 wall pieces. This will make utilizing a jump spell much easier and also allow you to use them for efficiently. However, the radius is reduced – so that will require relearning how it functions (for those of us who already use it)

Valkyrie Revamp Video: http://supr.cl/NewJumpSpell

Side Note:

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The Valkyrie
The most important part of any strategy is understanding your strengths and weaknesses. So here are some things about the Valkyrie

-Despite being a “tank” unit Valkyries are rather vulnerable to splash damage. Think of them more liked supped up Barbarians or mini PEKKA. They also tend to run ahead of other tanks, causing them to take point damage fire

-Valkyrie have a slow attack speed, which means wizards are a huge problem on the battle field. Valkyrie are very likely to get KOed before every getting off their legendary whirlwind attack. Rage spells help tremendously and if lower level, a heal is a life saver

-Valkyrie will destroy compacted base designs, where spread out bases won’t allow her to capitalize on her strengths.

-Valkyrie tend to run out in front of other troops, due to there AI looking for a point of attack that hits multiple targets. This can be problematic or beneficial. The problem is that she will get ahead of any tanks you have along in your composition. If she is tanking, however, she is knee deep in defenses and will attract fire.

-Heros are not a major threat post update. With the Valkyrie splash all you need is a rage if the hero is higher in level. Any CC troop that is not a wizard isn't generally a huge issue, though wizards are devastating. You still need to pick a good attack angle as these troops can pull your Valkyrie off target

-Valkyrie do best moving in a line, spread out but as a group. They seem to lose steam after 50% as their tanks die and they begin to thin out. It seems difficult to move them past a 2 star at Th10 but very capable of 3 stars at Th9 and 8.

-Valkyrie seem inefficient when they bunch up. They appear to waste attacks (whiff) when they get bunched up, where if they stay spread out they can level a cluster of buildings very quickly. They have a bug where if the building their targeting get destroyed they'll do no damage even if in mid animation. They'll finish out their animation and reposition themselves for a new attack.

Original Post
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...valkyrie+files
It’s been a long journey but my moment is here and these strategies I have been developing for months will be much more effective. This was my original working post where I was testing out different builds.

Current Builds

GoVaPe - Golems, Valkyrie, and PEKKA -
GoWiVa - Golem, Wizards & Witches
GoViz - Golems Valkyrie and Wizards

Viz - Valkyrie, Wizards and Jump

Valkyrie Tornado - Valkyrie, Healers, Giants, Wizards

Mixed Tactics - Giants, Wizards, Valkyrie, Barbs, Archers

Valkyrie to Kill a Whole Clan Castle (Godson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuTmfQm7lis

Random Videos
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUiqzFyzVzYe - before and after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CKX-s85kXM - Valk/Archer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnAmi2iWrw - Mass Valk

Giants & Valkyries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUVfx4wuo70 - Valk/Giant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M9JykCfRlA - Th10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyhgh5hw5Y4 - Th10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG0_m-GD-k4 - Th10

Hogs en' Valks
hienhuynhtm - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SLt2G2g0-rI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXTZaDpE44
http://youtu.be/m6YEcu-5BSc

Nigel Momongan from Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNHAl1g2pt8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3XQq4EHsY - healer lure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxUSj8evbBU

ZenCoC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=6aMQ6OkHnlE
http://youtu.be/3uEs6MBMNZw
http://youtu.be/UHHRmZBdWRA
http://youtu.be/uYDgceqtbnU

Special Thanks to

Unity Sharp - GoWiVa-WiPe (Sharp's Army)
ZenCoC -GoWiVa
SadistKandra - Valkyrie Tornado
Milanese - GoWiVa
Daddy - Mass Valks
hienhuynhtm - HoVaPe

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Jump_Spell.pngBefore any update the Jump Spell and Valkyrie were an effective strategy, now it is only more so. Jump allows Valkyrie to keep moving unhindered and to do so quickly. This allows the Valkyrie to capitalized on her high DPS capacity but low stamina (when compared to other tanking units). Its an extremely effective strategy for taking out a TH but moving past the second star is tricky.

If you used the strategy before the update it changed character. Golems will not provide Valkyrie good cover anymore because the Valkyrie will get ahead of them but they are still critical to create a path and to keep your wizards alive as you Valkyrie punch deeper into the base. These units also help insure you net the 50% for the second star.

Super Cell Jump Revamp Video: http://supr.cl/NewJumpSpell

Youtube Video - thanks to Stephen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4luWPxL2hqI

The Composition
Spells: 2-3 Jumps Spells 1-2 Rage 1-2 Freeze/Heal

Troops
Valkyries: 15-22
Wizards: 10-20
Golem: 0-2 or Giants: 6-12
PEKKA: 0-2
Wallbreaker: 0-5

The Ideal Base: Valkyrie preform best on compact base designs, you want their splash to matter. That and you want a base that doesn't permit your Valkyrie to run every which way. For example, bases with rings of buildings tend to be bad because the Valkyrie may follow the ring, rather than proceed farther into the base. If the buildings are more compact in a certain area this may still provide a good route for your Valkyrie. Its also ideal if the infernos are spread out, much easier to eliminate one before tackling the second, as Valkyries can take 1 inferno on pretty well but 2 can be more of an issue. Also muti-target infernos level 2 or below aren't a major threat to Valkyrie.

You may also want to consider defense placement. Its best if your Valkyrie are clearing a path for your Wizards. If your Valkyrie punch a hole and leave defenses standing in there wake then you will be flanked. If this happens your wizards will go down quickly. However, if the defenses in range are destroyed - your momentum will hold out much longer.

Centralized heros and clan castle troops is actually very good. These can be used to help guide your Valkyrie to the right place. Having one of these things directly behind the th is very effective. However, if the archer queen or clan castle troop is off to the side of where you want to attack, it could pull you away from your target. The Barbarian King is less likely to cause a huge problem if he pulls your forces away because of his lack of a ranged attack. The queen or archers could cause your Valkyrie to pound on walls while they get hammered by defenses if not in a compartment you are attacking.

If using the freeze spell, having the CC in the path of an inferno is ideal. That way you can freeze both the inferno and CC troops at the same time. For Valkyrie, freezing only the inferno tower is really a waste.

The Attack: Neither hero is a major problem for Valkyrie, due to the fact Valkyrie can dish damage to heros while still destroying the base. A well planned freeze spell may be very effective if both heros, CC, and infernos are in the core. The biggest role heros play in your attack is drawing your forces where you want them to go. If the heros will draw you off of your target, that can pose a problem. Be particularly wary of off center Archer Queens and archers/wizards. These ranged units can cause your Valkyrie to pound on walls while getting hammered by defenses. However, if all three of these are centralized its actually a positive for attacking.

Only lure a CC if it has the potential to draw your attack in the wrong direction. Most bases centralize their CC and in these cases your Valkyrie do not need those troops to be lured. In fact they can be critical in making sure your Valkyrie go where you want them to.

If your up against a Th10 base you need to bring Golems for the opening of the attack for maximum effect. Spread them out just far enough to cover a central attacking zone. Deploy the wizards in this zone along with about 4 Valkyrie. At this point wait and allow the wizards to destroy the defenses if everything is going smoothly, drop wall breakers just as the outer layer of defenses is going down. If possible near a wall that has taken a hit for two so you only need one. If you don't have wallbreakers and instead a 3rd jump spell, drop that.

Be careful choosing a location to break into the base. Its often tempting to break compartments open as your golems and wizards hammer on defenses, but if you do this at the wrong stage your Valkyrie may move towards those compartments instead of where you placed your jump spell. This requires experience to learn when to hold off on breaking into the second layer.

If possible keep your Wizards in a "pocket" where the Golems are covering the flanks and the Valkyrie are paving a way straight ahead. That way they are providing fire instead of taking it. This is critical if you want to keep your momentum going because Valkyrie are terrible at taking out walls. If your not using 2 golems or any giants spare a few of your Valkyrie at the beginning, you'll want heal spells for this scenario. Valkyrie alone do not really create a solid pocket but a heal spell can help buy wizards times as they pick off flanking towers.

When deploying your Valkyrie do not drop them all in one location. It's best if you can spread them out some so that when they engage their targets they do so from multiple locations. When Valkyrie bunch up they tend to waste attacks and are very vulnerable to splash damage. Where when Valkyrie spread out they waste far less attacks and destroy multiple buildings very quickly. Also if wizards come out of the CC, you are far less likely to waste half of your force get zapped to death (or watch as your Valkyrie painfully take 1 archer out at a time). Valkyrie are prone to attacking the outer buildings, make sure a path is cleared before deploying rapidly. I do not personally recommend the lightening spell with Valkyrie, often a rage or heal is all they need to demolish those units. In particular at Th10 a well timed freeze and rage will render those units dead in seconds.

Once inside the outer compartment drop a jump spell where you want your Valkyrie to attack. Picking the location and timing of this spell is tricky. Walls can be used to direct your Valkyrie just as much as prevent them from getting somewhere. Essentially you want to create a "runway" for your Valkyrie. A direct path to the TH, hopefully with just one Jump spell. You want this runway, if possible, to not leave buildings flanking your wizards. Its very easy for Valkyrie to surge ahead, destroy the town hall and get 30%.

Be careful not to inadvertently create a path that leads your Valkyrie right past the inferno tower, while never attacking it directly. You'll also want to pick a path that has enough buildings for a 50% - this will take practice but Valkyrie can often take the TH without getting a high % of damage on the base.

Your first rage spell or heal spell should be used as your Valkyrie collide with the enemy CC. These spells allows for you to quickly dispatch (survive) enemy CC and heros. If packing a freeze time this so you get a high priority defense or two in the freeze. The inferno tower is the best target for this. If not attacking a Th10, please note the heal spell is more versatile and useful .

The second rage you will want for dispatching the core quickly. Placing the rage just in front of where the Valkyrie will attack. If packing a heal try and wait to use it until the Valkyrie have low health. If possible also try and time this rage so if can help you clear a path in walls if nee be, if you don't heave enough jumps to keep going.

With multi-target infernos, try and attack from an angle that allows you to deal with one inferno at a time. Attacking in the middle of disco inferno fire is generally bad, as the DPS is high enough to make big problems. However, Valkyries can take the fire from 1 inferno fairly well.

Once the core is gutted this is where your battle decisions will show. If your Golems kept the "pocket" strong, you should still have momentum from your wizards. Also if your "runway" was perfect you should of cleared a path that left no defensive building to flank your advancing army. Also if you where frugal with your wallbreakers and jump spells you should have enough to keep your line advancing beyond the core.

If your pocket broke, chances are your wizards are dead. If you used your jump spells all on getting into the core, you could very well be watching as your Valkyrie get shot to pieces trying to punch a hole in the wall. If your "runnway" was poor your Valkyrie may be all over the place or you'll have 30%, the town hall, but no second star.

This is a solid 2 star comp, particularly once you level your heros. Its great at getting the core but can sometimes fall short of getting 50% because of losing momentum as spells run dry.

Example Comps:

Mass Valkyries: 2 Golems, 18 Valkyries, 15 Wizards, 3 Wallbreakers - 2 jump, 1 freeze, and 2 rage

Mass Valkyries 2 (no Golem): 22 Valkyries, 16 Wizards, 3 Jump Spells, 1 Freeze, 1 rage

Youtube:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dq92nNct-v8 - th9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVnyvd1tir4 (Th9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwoUUwGdrQ - Th9 with 1 jump and 3 rage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULVzaoCqKc - TH9 VS Th10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=tGP223bMYms (Th10 maxed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4SCqigJEQ - Against a Maxed Base
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWl-L3HH58 - th10


Stewey - http://youtu.be/9OpjFzQAP-I

Variation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV2eMfSHv2s - Valkyrie/Giant/Archer

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...c0/Healer1.png

If your a giant/healer expert.... be prepared to rethink how you use the healer. I recently got to use her a few times in successful war attacks on TH9 players and a premature Th10. Using ideas I gained from SadistKandra and a few youtubers I experienced allot more luck with the wayward healers.

I'll get into specifics later but Valkyries can make a good compliment to healers. They have enough HP th 8-9 to take hits and a much higher attack than giants. They also can make a good compliment to various strategies that use the healers with Valkyrie - but you need to rethink deployment. The biggest issue you'll run into is that Valkyrie can pull healers into the frying pan (so to speak) and if you don't consider this before an attack you'll fail miserably.

A shout out to Sadist Kandra here. Its his strategy guide that helped me pick up and notice nuances in using healers with Valkyrie based compositions.

See SadistKandra's post for the Valkyrie Tornado: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...lkyrie-Tornado

Composition
Backbone – 8-14 Valklyries, 2-4 Healers, 0-15 Wallbreakers
Compliment Units: 8-12 Giants, 8-15 Hogs, 3-16 wizards, Archers
Support: 1-3 PEKKA (great for walls), Witches (CC troops)

Spells: Varies, though freeze is great vs CC troops or to lock up Air Defenses

Selecting Targets

I am not master at this currently. I am Th10 and bases vulnerable to these ideas are few due to the popularity of multi-target mode. But recently I had a few war matches where I was up against Th9 or weak Th10. The reason for choosing these strategies had to do with my ability to isolate parts of the base not protected by Air Defenses. I kept either my Valkyries or other units in the range of defenses while they got healed but away from air defenses, I then sent the other part of my army into the core to but it while everything was distracted. I saved extra heals for the core group. If you can isolate the base into sections this way, the strategy can be devastating even vs Th10. The problem with Th10 tho is that not many bases will allow you to avoid all 6 defensive towers during execution.

Obviously exposed Air Defenses are good also, as you can take them out quickly but its more important that you can isolate sections outside of there ranges than necessarily take them out quickly.

You generally want a base where the CC can be lured. Valkyries can handle the CC but in general if you using this strategy its about spell conservation and efficient use of the healers/spells. Taking CC troops out in the core is generally spell dependent/heavy. Also wizards are a huge problem when trying to use healers and its best to avoid they destroying your raid.

Attacking

Before you attack separate the areas under air coverage. Are their large portions of the outer base that air defenses don't cover? Are a few Air defenses easily taken out, leaving the otter rim of the base vulnerable? From my experiences so far these attacks work best if I use the strengths of my units where they are needed.

Lure the clan castle out. You can send Valkyrie into a core with a rage and freeze but its safer to lure them out so they don't complicate your deployment. These strategies make use of a variety of units and adding the extra concern of CC troops can make effective deployment difficult.

In general I have been running 4 healers because it lets me divide up the units involved. With giants I have been splitting up them into two smaller groups and have them act like Golems. I want them taking and distracting fire but at the same time I try and keep them out of the danger zone of air defenses. Which generally is away from standard trap placement.

With Valkyries they can have a few roles. Blitzing the core, being healed and used as tanks, or punching up the middle under healing. It depends on the base layout. You use healers where they are strongest and the unit that is best suited for that role.

Hog Riders can either be used to clear the sides of the base or the center. I prefer using them to clear the center. There fast and jump walls, a good compliment to Valkyries.

One of the major issues with these strategies is that the healer is an idiot. It actually really doesn't pay to put more than 2 healers on a group. They end up getting them to 100% and then healing something you don't want them to. This is also why giants and hogs are strong complements to Valkyrie with healers. They benefit from healers to, so it won't ruin your raid if the healer goes ADHD on you and heals them.

I am not expert at this yet but if you can segment the base and hit it with the group best suited for it, the strategy can be quite devastating. Traps can be an issue and if units behave unpredictably you can have your attack fall apart.

Be very careful when using heros. Healers love to attach themselves to the BK and forget about the rest of your units. I actually like to send him in a different group than where my healers are. It can ruin a raid when they used their nerfed healing abilities on the king instead of your main units. Wizards can be risking to but can be great with a few witches and the king out front. Just be careful they aren't pulling your healers away from the action.

For now, I will opt out of writing more. I am still learning these units and have been hitting weak bases to build up on my skills.

Example Comps:

Hogs N' Valkyrie - 10-11 Valkyrie, 4 Healers, 15 Hogs (includes a full CC), 2 Witches, 3 Wizards and troops for luring. 1 Jump, 1 Rage, 3 heal (possibly a freeze as well)

Valkyrie Tornado - 8-10 Valkyrie, 12-13 Giants (Includes CC), 10 Wallbreakers, 15 Wizards - 1 heal, 2 freeze and 2 Rage

Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhJ5tOv7iH8 - Valkyrie/Healer/Jump

SadistKandra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3Xk9TtnOM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhRLSiuMpH8- Th9 Valkyrie, Giants, Wizards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFkUNpRABg - Th8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LS0mDC_xy0 - Th8 - 5 Healers and Valkyries

http://youtu.be/2a9XjjchSOk - th8 valk/wiz

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...evel_4%263.jpgThis strategy is more flexible in actual composition because the Valkyrie play a specific role, to gut the core and clear the enemy CC. The Valkyrie do the heavy lifting of demolishing cores that are packing centralized heros, clan castles, and tight nit defenses.

The various combinations are GoWiVa, GoVaPe, GoViz and various compositions with giants instead.

The Composition
The Tank:
2-3 Golems
8-16 Giants
Ranged Damage:
5-15 Wizards (only use less than 10 Wizards if utilizing PEKKA)
40-60 Archers
Second Wave:
8-14 Valkyrie (only use less than 10 Valkyrie if utilizing PEKKA)
0-2 PEKKA

Spells: 0-1 Freeze, 1-2 Heal, 1-2 Rage, 0-1 Jump (recommended spell)
-Freeze is best if it can be used to neutralize a disco inferno and CC troops/heros at the same time.
-Rage is a necessity for colliding with CC troops.
-Heal is very powerful with Valkyrie and is great at keeping support troops alive and giving Valkyrie more staying power. If facing infernos heal is still powerful as long as your not facing both at the same time.
-Jump is a great spell to get Valkyrie into the core and to free up room for more troops (instead of wallbreakers). Most bases can be breached by one jump after getting through the outer layer.

Other: Wall Breakers 0-9, Witches 0-4

Ideal Base: A Valkyrie's favorite base is one with a tight core and centralized heros. Centralized clan castle's are often a good thing as they help get your valkyrie to the right place. Just plop a rage or heal spell as the troops to collide to make sure your Valkyrie come out on top. This is particularly effective if you can drop a freeze on an inferno and CC troops. This varies some depending on your exact composition, but its best if you can deploy your Valkyrie in a spread out fashion, this prevents you from losing the whole lot to a few wizards. For this reason 10 Valkyrie is often best, as less can result in you not getting enough to go the right direction for a win. The exception is if your bringing along PEKKA, then 8 Valkyrie will do the trick. The heros and CC troops will act as vacuum to bring your Valkyrie into the core, helping to prevent their AI from making them wander.

For all of these strategies clearing a path is important, some more than others. Be careful when attacking bases with a tight nit group of buildings pushed away from the second layer, these are designed to make it difficult to get your troops to go the right direction.

I find this strategy is ideal for bases that have a large outside compartments that with a jump spell can lead into the core. Something that will allow the Valkyrie to hit the core fairly spread out, to capitalize on there splash damage. Also to maximize spell slots.

These compositions also do fairly well vs 1 single target and one multiple target inferno or infernos under level 3. The Valkyrie hold up well to fire from either mode, though if two level 3 disco are active at the same time, the DPS is hard for the Valkyrie to sustain for a long period of time. If you are packing a freeze or two they generally do well. A very effective tactic is to attack from an angle so that you take one inferno down right away, activate your hero's iron fist and plop a healing spell down as troop hp gets low. As long as they take the second tower down quickly, this greatly improves your chances of keeping your momentum after breaching the core (as if often also helps prevent your wizards from dieing as they rush into the center). If heros and CC are in the core with the infernos, you can sometimes freeze the whole lot.

For that larger outside compartment its also ideal if that is a place where defenses can be cleared away leaving a clear path. Meaning that you won't become flanked as your Valkyrie punch a hole into the center of the base. A common problem in using Valkyrie is they get ahead of your support troops, leaving them to get fired on by the defenses left behind.

GoWiVa
GoWiVa is a powerful variant that relies on witches. The extra witches mean using a heal spell is actually quite doable as the infernos are often occupied by skeletons. However, this means mortar fire is very important to pay attention to. You don't want to breach in the core and then have all 3 mortars firing on you, as the witches will be mostly useless.

However if you can take out 2 mortars on your way to the core, or get your Valkyrie into the core ahead of your witches under rage (to deal with those mortars) this strategy can do allot of damage once the Valkyrie have made quick work of the biggest threats. However, these units have difficult to manage AI and it will require practice to get the timing right.

The Attack

Only lure the CC if it will draw your Valkyrie away from the core or your target. CC troops are actually very effective in pulling your troops into the core, but can ruin your raid if they pull them in the wrong direction. The only exception to this is if heros are present in the core and the CC is easy to learn. Then luring is a good idea for extra insurance. Heal, freeze, and rage are good options for insurance when dealing with CC troops and heros. Freeze is good if you can get CC troops and an inferno at the same time, or after destroying the first inferno to allow for a heal. Freeze only for an inferno isn't a great use of the spell.

Pick a section of base that has a cluster of defenses in a larger compartment, ideally one that isn't flank by defenses your ranged units and tanks would leave standing after your Valkyries make the push into the core. Also if the heros are located on the opposite side of the TH or target, that is best. I often destroy the heros and TH at the same time when they are positioned like this.

Drop your tanks with ranged directly behind. With giants you'll want to get them into the compartment right away, while with Golems feel free to just let them bang on the walls for a while as your range does the heavy damage. Its important in this phase you engage enough of the defenses to attain a 50%. If you concentrate your forces tro much you'll destroy the Th but run out of steam and fail in getting that second star.

Be careful when you open up compartments in this stage. Its easy to accidently draw your forces in the wrong direction but opening up a compartment at the wrong time. Ideally you want them to converge on a central location, mastering this will greatly improve your attacks.

You want to clear a path so your Valkyrie go to the core. Destroying the sides of the base first and then deploying in the center is a good strategy for this. You still want your tanks to provide cover fire - so don't spread them too thin. Make sure to use your wallbreakers wisely as you will only have a few.

Get your troops into the first layer and assess the situation. If a clear path is present to the core, then deploy the Valkyrie. If not you may need to give your tanks and range a bit longer to clear out buildings but don't leave them unsupported for too long. Timing here is critical. Keep your ranged or support units alive!

Deploy your Valkyrie so that they make a beeline for the direction of the core. Ideally drop a jump spell to get the Valkyrie into the core, if TH8 you'll need more wall breakers since you do not have access to the jump spell. Have a few wizards follow close behind in case of air troops. If possible spread them out, but be careful as their AI is prone to attacking the buildings on the side of the base instead of inside the base. .

When the CC is activated take a careful look at what comes out. The rage spell will help your Valkyrie quickly clear out heros and the grand majority of clan castle troops. However, wizards can pose a serious threat and require a rage (if a wall is in the way, a jump as well). Low level wizarrds and other CC troops can de dealt with using a heal or rage. For Th10 a well timed freeze that takes out important defenses and the CC is powerful.

If carrying two freeze and a heal (or one freeze depending on the number of disco infernos) a nice option is to put the core on lock down with the freeze spell once your Valkyrie have taken a beating and drop a heal, getting them back to full health. Again the rage spell is always a good pick for the core. This is best if heros, CC, and infernos are in the core as you can get them all in the freeze. Otherwise heal is better than a second freeze.

This is typically where you will run out of the steam, as your Valkyrie will likely be ahead of your Golems and Wizards at this point. If your wizards are taking fire from defenses along the sides of your attack, you're unlikely to go much further. This is why a heal can be powerful. It puts a second wind under your sails, especially if you keep wizards (witches) kicking. Valkyrie do not do particularly well when they have to break through walls. There strongest on the move and doing as much damage as quickly as possible.

For Th8 and 9 players I recommend utilizing the heal spell to keep the Valkyrie going strong. Their Hp is solid but not remarkable, so the heal spell can help keep the momentum going.

Giants are acceptable VS Th8 and 9 but aren't really enough for an advanced Th10. I personally recommend 3 Golems or 2 Golems with PEKKA or Witches due to the DPS Th10 defenses pack with 15 wizards following suit.

GoWiVa -
This particular comp requires a few more notes as its a bit different in character. Witches with Valkyrie are both powerful and difficult to execute flawlessly. The Witch's skeletons are actually great for keeping inferno beams busy when you drop a healing spell and are great at keeping the momentum going after the core is breached. However, Witches are prone to wander and very vulnerable to mortar fire. So base selection and attack angle considerations are more fussy. Also note that 1 witch is weak, pairs are much better.

You don't want to have mortars taking out your skeletons so its best to take 1 or two of them out along the way or have your Valkyrie hit them full steam. With Witches you want to form a pocket with your golems and get those golems inside the walls. Being frugal with your wall breakers is important. You also want enough time to build some momentum, as premature deployment of the Valkyrie can be very bad.

With this comp I find freeze to be not particular useful when stacked against healing spells. If you can capture several things within one freeze having one along is a good thing but otherwise it just doesn't have enough bang. If searching for a match in normal match making, I do recommend 1 freeze as it may be necessary for certain base builds.

If your Valkyrie can finish off the CC and a few of the major splash towers during the surge part of the raid, you'll find this compositions keeps its steam a bit longer as cannons and archer towers are very ineffective verses witches and the Valkyrie actually become excellent tanks due to their tendency to run into the thick of things.

Example Comps:

GoWiVa: 10 Valkyries, 10 Wizards, 2 Golem, 4 Witches, 6 Wallbreakers, 2 Rage, 2 Heal, 1 Jump

GoViz: 10 Valkyrie, 15 Wizards, 3 Golems, 5 wallbreakers, 0-1 Freeze, 0-2 Heal, 1-2 Rage

GoVaPe: 8 Valkyrie, 2 PEKKA, 8 Wizards, 2 Golem, 9 wallbreakers

Sharp's Army (GoWiVa-WiPe) - 2 Golems, 3 PEKKA, 3-4 Valkyrie, 13 Wizards, 10 Wallbreakers, with witches and wizards in the cc, 2 Freeze, 2 Rage, 1 Jump

Mixed Tactics with Valkyrie: 12 Giants, 10 Barbarians, 14 Archers, 8 Valkyrie, 10 Wizards, 16 Wallbreakers - heal and rage spells (effective Th9 and below)

Youtube Videos:
GoVaPe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=GpIZs1NrDBQ - GoVaPe
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=diUgfzcRU0E - GoVaPe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W7_M2_zC8Q - VaGo WiPe
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78XxrlJ2tlY - VaGo WiPe
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvhE_3fAN4 - Vs high lvl th10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYETHUPoX8s - Early Th9

GoViz
Milanese - https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=1POT64f-mUE - GoViz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv5BY6...ature=youtu.be - GoViz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VyT8r2LvGw8 - th10 raids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1LGnvHUU4 - Th8

GoWiVa
ZenCoC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=UIXHeBiP-M4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=1-z3Z2iVL6M, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsW2wgwXNY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=6owT1kYw_ZQ & https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=KH7QNrGhDkk

GoWiVa - WiPe
Unity Sharp - http://youtu.be/EuOgfINIKaw?list=UUN...mKjmEXp2bw8xbA, http://youtu.be/L-OvamlP-no?list=UUN...mKjmEXp2bw8xbA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLcW...mKjmEXp2bw8xbA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEhM...mKjmEXp2bw8xbA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEhM...mKjmEXp2bw8xbA

Great thread i know gowivalk works on th10's quite effectively especially with behind providing some help i personally use 2 rage 2 heal as valks run out of steam near end so a hp boost is handy especially with mine still at 1 but i do find my 11 valks start to split up as they are at the core so be careful with that as that could end your raid.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...36#post2259136 that is my thread of GoVaWiPe

The new Valkyrie's AI does more damage, but you have to be careful. They can be unpredictable and go where you don't want them to from time to time. If you're using wizards to clean up outside buildings, you might want to spread them out more than with GOWIPE to level a larger area out of the walls.

Updated the jump spell and support sections.


Please post any videos of using the new valks effectively - I'll put them in the guide

Nicely done on the thread. Like the thoroughness. 👍

What about using valkaries to get I to the core with Jump spells. The valks will target the core because of how compacted cores are.

Anyone here really has max Valks?

I'm about to go DE hunting...total cost to get em to max is 180DE!!

I hope its worth it!!!

But problems is I'm TH9, cant get max jump spells

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Anyone here really has max Valks?

I'm about to go DE hunting...total cost to get em to max is 180DE!!

I hope its worth it!!!

But problems is I'm TH9, cant get max jump spells

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I have maxed Valks but I am Th10

Heal is actually powerful on Valkyries but vs Th10 heal is canceled by infernos.

Not sure about healers, they seem to heal everything else once they get a Valk to max hp

Wizards and Valkyies with the heal spell is a good option, jury is out on healers tho

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I have maxed Valks but I am Th10

Heal is actually powerful on Valkyries but vs Th10 heal is canceled by infernos.

Not sure about healers, they seem to heal everything else once they get a Valk to max hp

Wizards and Valkyies with the heal spell is a good option, jury is out on healers tho

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I tried a few hog raids on lower bases...3 stars, but those bases that i usually 3 stars previous, I only get 2 stars now.

I'm hoping Valks can have the effect as Hogs...I mean for the war...I want 3 star troops like those previous max hogs.

This has got to be the most comprehensive thread on Valkyrie that I've read. Not only does it present various scenario, troop combinations and possible encounters, the illustrious thought process makes the thread easy to follow. Very clear, very interesting.
As a mid-TH 8, and a hybrid balloon user, I have been hoping (and seldom trying) to incorporate Valkyrie into my composition for a while now. But they don't seem to compliment each other too much. I'll try out some of your wizard/valk combo and healer/valk combo when I max out TH8.
The thought of ruling/owning with unpopular characters has always been a fantasy of mine. I will surely make Valkyrie be my unpopular heroine. I learned a lot, thank you.

My trouble with Valks seems to be the horrible upgrade pricing. Much worse than any other troop! It seems most efficient to just leave them at level 1.

For example, to go to level 2 training cost goes from 70 DE to 100DE. DPS goes from 88 to 99. HP go from 900 to 1000. So we have a 43% training cost increase to get 12.5% more DPS and 11.1% more HP. It doesn't get any better for later upgrades.

What spells would you use for a th9?

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Heal is great at th9. You can either go 1 rage and 1 heal with 3 jumps or replace a jump with another rage


Th9 can go with healers to, instead brining allot of wallbreakers, lead with giants and deploy valkyrie strategically. Use heal to compenstate for poor healer AI, a rage for the CC troops and heros

Hi Nio,

Nice thread covering many angles wrt the Valk!

Since the update I tried replacing Wiz with Valks in a GoWiWi (GoVaWit?) high-level CW attack and just wasnt impressed. Also tried working them into farming comps with similar result: post update they get thrashed while positioning and thrashed some more while re-positioning.

Training time, cost & space aside I just feel they still are not a good value proposition because there doesn't seem to be a niche for them in attacking forces. Maybe not at all outside of defensive cc usage?

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Hi Nio,

Nice thread covering many angles wrt the Valk!

Since the update I tried replacing Wiz with Valks in a GoWiWi (GoVaWit?) high-level CW attack and just wasnt impressed. Also tried working them into farming comps with similar result: post update they get thrashed while positioning and thrashed some more while re-positioning.

Training time, cost & space aside I just feel they still are not a good value proposition because there doesn't seem to be a niche for them in attacking forces. Maybe not at all outside of defensive cc usage?

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They are tricky to use and certain tactics are actually less effective with the new AI.

A problem with the Valkyrie that I reported is that if the building they were targeting get destroyed and they are in the midst of there animation, they'll do no damage to any other targets within the splash radius. This is problematic as it can cause them to just run around rather than attack.

I personally find Valkyries and Witches aren't terribly effective together because the Valkyrie get in-front of the skeletons pretty quickly. Though I have found some good videos with them included. I'd really like to test out PEKKA, GoVaPe, because both work well with jump and the PEKKA don't need Tanks.


The niche Valkyrie really serve well is dealing with heros and CC troops that are centralized, this is where they really shine.

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They are tricky to use and certain tactics are actually less effective with the new AI.

A problem with the Valkyrie that I reported is that if the building they were targeting get destroyed and they are in the midst of there animation, they'll do no damage to any other targets within the splash radius. This is problematic as it can cause them to just run around rather than attack.

I personally find Valkyries and Witches aren't terribly effective together because the Valkyrie get in-front of the skeletons pretty quickly. Though I have found some good videos with them included. I'd really like to test out PEKKA, GoVaPe, because both work well with jump and the PEKKA don't need Tanks.


The niche Valkyrie really serve well is dealing with heros and CC troops that are centralized, this is where they really shine.

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Interesting about bout the bug...wonder if I encountered it? With no replays from a week ago no way to tell, but good to know moving forward!

Wrt niche...I'm finding freeze/lightning extremely effective on centralized heroes and cc troops because I use freeze anyway on ITs. Net result is I usually get a "2-for-1 with at least my first freeze spell :). The exception being level 4 dragons out of the cc...which are a pain!

Thanks again for your write-up...might try some of the combos you mentioned.

Nio, truly excellent thread. Thank you for all the thought and work. You present a lot to think about, and many things to try.

Thanks for the detailed guide and thanks for featuring my replays.
I am thinking if we can hogs to clear the defense outside after the valkyries get into the core with jump spell..
hmm...

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Thanks for the detailed guide and thanks for featuring my replays.
I am thinking if we can hogs to clear the defense outside after the valkyries get into the core with jump spell..
hmm...

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I got a clan mate who does this at th9 and he scores 2-3 stars pretty consistent - spread out bases are hard for it

He sends in the Valks and deploys hogs along edges to clear out defenses as the Valks advance. Lotsa heals and a rage.

Good ideas here,thanks

Great thread, GoWiVa ftw ;) thanks for using my raids

I've used this strategy as a th9. 14 barbs for luring cc, 14 wizzies, 15 valks I believe, and a golem for initial tanking for the wizards. Spells are 2 jumps, a heal and a rage. It's a pretty strong strategy and can 3 star most to all th8 and premie th9 and 10s, as I have done both.

I still have yet taken on a fairly maxed base, but I'm sure if I don't screw up the jump spells, I could get a 2 star at least.

Nio, I'm going to use my level two valks in this upcoming clan war against a week th 10, (level 1 infernos) what spells should I bring? The most curious I am is a heal spell vs some healers. Let me know what you think

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Nio, I'm going to use my level two valks in this upcoming clan war against a week th 10, (level 1 infernos) what spells should I bring? The most curious I am is a heal spell vs some healers. Let me know what you think

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Level 1 infernos aren't a big issue but there placement determines your spell

Spread apart, where you can take on one at a time, you can still use heal once you take the inferno down

Most bases centralize these towers so bringing more rage spells is a better bet, more heavy tanks as well since you can't heal

You'll want to deploy enough Valks so they hit the core but can keep there momentum. Depending on the base design you may want to save troops to take out buildings on the outside so you pick up 50% or plan your jump spells carefully

Updated the section on the Jump Spell and Valkyrie


I ran that comp for a full day and edited based on that, included my log.


Please not my 40% was on a maxed base, the 30% I used 4 spells (forgot my freeze) and wasted a jump to get to the core and could of easily gotten more if I had saved that jump



I believe mass valks is a solid 2 star strategy (with heros) when executed properly on a Th10. Very effective at gutting the core, but opening up the attack just right to maximize damage can be tricky.

I can not say I am a complete master at this point of this tactic but I understand it much better. My clan mate Stephen from Death's Door recorded several of the better raids and is throwing them together for a youtube video

Thanks man! (will add that later)


Going to run GoWiVa next, wish me luck!

EDIT: Big thanks to Stephen, I now have a video posted!


Please note I was tweaking the comp around the edges

Deploying the GiWiVa strategy it seems like my wizzies never get targeted. The Valk does a great job of always staying ahead of the wizz. Two heals spells with a rage lets me three star most other TH8 and especially if the base is tightly compacted.

I have been having a ton of success with VaGiWi (tehe) against th 9s, even maxed out ones. I have maxed troops for th 9.

I bring:

12 giants
12 valks
12 wizards
16 archers
2 jump
1 rage
1 heal

I use archers and maybe 1 valk to destroy cc troops if lureable. Drop a jump spell so that i can get into a few different compartments with defences. Drop all giants near the jump. Drop wizards to clear outside. Drop valks one at a time until i see them go towards the centre and then drop them all. Use the second jump to get into a few more compartments including core. Use rage once most valk are at the core. Use heal spell if i see my troops running out of steam. The heroes i drop last to help with clean up, using the new abilities to replenish health or break through a stubborn wall near the end.

As a previous poster mentioned, the valks do a nice job of getting in front of wizards, tanking for them.

The heal spell could be traded with lightning for cc troops or a second rage to wreak havoc

Hope you guys have as much fun with vagiwi as i do :p

Matt

Did some updating to my support section (really wish I could rename that)

Add an attack log for GoViz and GoWiVa

I am finding that when its practical heal is extremely powerful with Valkyrie. Since your packing a large number of concentrated units you can heal through 1 inferno at a time fairly easily. GoViz was very reliable for getting the town hall and did very well picking up the 50%. Getting the units to the core was easy, it was making sure I did enough damage along the way I kept a few tricks in my bag that made the 50% difference. Its very durable and practical on most base types. Absolutely devastating on vault designs while raiding.


GoWiVa is a different animal if you plan to give it a go. The Witches allow you substitute out one Golem but its extremely important to keep splash damage occupied with your golems. Similar to when using Valkyrie and Jump, you want to create a pocket for your support units. Keeping them alive is critical to the win. If I can take out 2 mortars on my way to the core or take them out quickly with my Valkyrie this strategy devastated bases. When executed just right it broke into the core and kept going longer than GoViz. However, what bases I could attack was different. Attacking from the side of one inferno wasn't always doable due to mortar coverage. The worse was if that fire come into play just as you made your push into the core. However, if the base was right the skeletons kept the attention of the inferno beams and made using 2 heals more effective in general than a freeze spell. This was because their was not way those tentacles of death could keep everything at bay.

GoViz has an easier time getting to the core and ripping the core to pieces, but GoWiVa has more staying power once the core is taken down. GoWiVa in my opinion was harder to use, though rewarding when you executed it right.


Well my DE reserves were bled dry from GoWiVa so I'll be a while before I get to healer builds.

Sharing a little fail of mine...
Defense aren't max, but the walls and heroes are scary...
I thought this was the perfect base to showcase the power of valks... but my troops deployment failed me :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HSNwdAr4tk

FYI, I just upgraded to TH10..
Other than spell factory, all my troops upgrades and army camps are TH9

A few paragraphs, grammar changes, extra videos


May do Hogs N' Valks sometime as I have found a few videos where this performs rather well.



EDIT: Thanks for sharing Zen. I find making sure you net 50% with Valkyrie strategies can be very important. They surge forward pretty easy but sometimes their just aren't enough buildings to pick up the 50%

A bit higher level heros and you would of gotten it!


I've been trying 5 witches out. Sometimes is very powerful and sometimes it falls flat. I believer its my spell timing as I tend to get nervous and spam my heal spells rather than wait for the perfect moment.

I still think that for Valkyries to be a viable troop their training time needs to be reduced. All these troop combinations would take at least 2 hours per army. Better or just as good troop combos can be constructed in less time. Am I wrong? Don't get me wrong, I like the Valkyrie unit but 15 minutes training time means that 12 valks take an hour and a half. I can have 12 dragons for that time period.

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I still think that for Valkyries to be a viable troop their training time needs to be reduced. All these troop combinations would take at least 2 hours per army. Better or just as good troop combos can be constructed in less time. Am I wrong? Don't get me wrong, I like the Valkyrie unit but 15 minutes training time means that 12 valks take an hour and a half. I can have 12 dragons for that time period.

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1) Valkyrie are not time efficient, I do not claim otherwise

2) I love dragons but struggle to 2 star bases that Valk/jump and GoVa combinations stomp for 2 easily.

I don't claim that Valks are better than PEKKA but if you watch the videos they are more than capable of being strong clan war troops

I am personally switching over to these combos for th10. At th9 I need more practice to net 3 stars

Im relatively confident of my GoWiVa as im about to use it for my clan war xD

2 Golems
8 Valks
12 Wizzies (5 more in cc)
12 Wallbreakers
4 Giants (They're to soak up the initial damage for me since my golems are a poopy stoopid weak level 1)

For my spells im using 3 rage 1 lightning as i have 12 wallbreakers so i dont need a jumpspell really

Great Guide

Minor updates

Last war we were in the opposing side used GoVaPe and GoVaWiWiiPe (or whatever you'd call it) quite effectively for 2 stars on our bases

I've continued using my strats on th10 bases. My spell deployment needs to improve as I tend to panic when the CC and Valks collide

Been finding lots of hogs and Valk videos - might try it :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3XQq4EHsY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sqtnjwOsj3s

Giant Valk th8 raid :)

GoWiVa-WiPe

Unity Sharp has some sick raids using probably the most diverse troop combination I have every saw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEhM4KgVOLc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOgfINIKaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnv1XkrKSLY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoOpe216VI

Random video

I lost lots of replay that i was going to share due to the maintenance break... :(

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Was really hoping for a boosting special for my heros/spells/barracks so I could trophy hunt with my Valks - sadly there training time is prohibitive for getting very many raids in

My clan has taken a break from wars due to losses so haven't gotten to use them of late

My latest clan wars attacks.
Doing some quick TH snipe for loot since we already won.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6owT1kYw_ZQ&list=PLVD9jUkrXkT1O-5Y5yOcQY_K_HcCmZmFN&index=7

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My latest clan wars attacks.
Doing some quick TH snipe for loot since we already won.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6owT1kYw_ZQ&list=PLVD9jUkrXkT1O-5Y5yOcQY_K_HcCmZmFN&index=7

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Nice vid


Ya valks are awsome if you want take out that Th. There as good at getting the Th as balloons are at getting 50%


EDIT:

Check this nigel's guy attack, he's got 4 of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNHAl1g2pt8

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EDIT:

Check this nigel's guy attack, he's got 4 of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNHAl1g2pt8

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I love the creative luring, but I would like to see what happens when the lure screw up, like if the healer gets killed by seeking air mine before reaching the cc

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ture, that doesn't happen in any of his videos. Tho in one he comments that he didn't need a second healer. So I guess he's will to lose more than 1

FYI - found a few giant/Valk raids. Looks fairly solid

More jump spell may

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHB_OOqnY

A little promo for the coming valkyries clan by nio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbV0WhUIWwY

Ya I've been spamming the following

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Join Valhalla September 1-14 for a temporary all Valkyrie Clan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbV0WhUIWwY

Bored of the same old attack strategies over and over? Want to see something new and different, join us for some epic raids.

Week 1 - sharing strategies, attacks, and tips
Week 2 - Back to back wars with what we learned the 1st week.

Either visit http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-September-1st to share your interest or PM me to join us in Valhalla!

Current Members List
Nio - Death's Door
SadistKandra - (Co-Leader)
ZenCoC (in and out as he can)
Nellybelly
Phoenix64
Stewey
Square


If you want strategies visit these posts
Multiple Strategies - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...Strategy-Guide
Valkyrie, Giants, Wizards, Healers -http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/325171-New-Attack-Strategy-Valkyrie-Tornado
Hogs N' Valks - http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/340028-Hovape-(Hog-Valkyrie-Pekka-Jump)-tactic-new-Clan-Wars-strategy

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I looked up a few threads on valkyries and PMed anyone who didn't seem to be a hater. However, 9/10 posters seem to be haters. Most of the time they haven't even given them an honest try.....


But I think I can talk a few clan mates in joining me for the 2 weeks. Been gaining them popularity in my own clan :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwVqFFv8ocI


1) I've hit a dry spell for new awesome raids (plus I am picker) - these aren't technical awesome FYI

2) GoVaPe is what I really want to try next. My PEKKA are on there way to level 3 and by the time \/alhalla is here I believe I should have level 4, which is acceptable as a TH10 to give it a go :)

Just ended an epic war yesterday
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ome-a-mismatch

I 2 stared a maxed base with level 30 BK and level 38 AQ.
Unfortunately all replays are lost due to the maintenance again...

Tomorrow we are fighting a Korean clan with 40 wins!
Lets hope I will have something to share..

Hog n' Valk 3 Star on th10
http://youtu.be/m6YEcu-5BSc

Anyone know a Valk n' Hogs expert? Need one for \/alhalla

realized this guy is just swiping videos for his own channel

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Thanks Zen, going to delete the video here now. Didn't catch that early. Don't want to promote that sort of channel

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Here's my 1st attempt of using hogs.

My usual GoWiVa combination is usually strong in getting to the core. But after destroying the TH they often can "stuck" in the center with defenses from all 4 sides shooting at them.
The idea is to use hogs to lure the cc troops, then after killing the TH I will see which side my main army is closest to breaking and I will deploy my remaining hogs at that side to help them break out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMQ6OkHnlE&feature=youtu.be

Awesome guide Nio! Unable to do ValHalla, but maybe the next time I can do it

Great thread! thanks for all the info!

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Here's my 1st attempt of using hogs.

My usual GoWiVa combination is usually strong in getting to the core. But after destroying the TH they often can "stuck" in the center with defenses from all 4 sides shooting at them.
The idea is to use hogs to lure the cc troops, then after killing the TH I will see which side my main army is closest to breaking and I will deploy my remaining hogs at that side to help them break out.

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Ya, that is a problem I run into with my combinations as well. Its absolutely solid for 2 stars but if I need to 3 star a lower base it seems to struggle. Same issue really, you get knee deep in the core and once the momentum of the jump spell wears off your getting hammered

I am currently trying to soar up our sister clan Death's Door1.5 and am heads and shoulders the strongest base/attacker (only advanced Th10 of 2 Th10). So we got matched against a crew with some seriously premature Th10 bases.

I ran HeHo-WiVa. 4 healers, 15 hogs (7 in CC), 10-11 Valkyrie, 1 giant, 3 archers, 3 wizards, 2 witches. 1 rage, 1 jump, 2-3 heal and 0-1 freeze

Used tactics I have gleaned off of SadistKandra, Nigel Momongan (youtube), and hienhuynhtm.

1st lured - Witches/Wizards dealing with CC and possibly a hero if I could
2nd Deploy Valkyrie into 2 groups with 2 healers apiece. The goal is actually to get them to attract fire outside the range of air defense (or take them out quickly). Use jump to get them inside. (try and get at least one royal in there path)
3rd Use hogs to rush the core, try and time it so the two groups sort of meet
4th - Add the royals to the pack heading towards the core (this varies in timing)
5th - Strategically use the heal spells to keep the hogs or Valkyrie alive, depending on what the healers do

My 1st attack was saved by 52 levels of heros. Triggered a lot of spring traps even though I spread my hogs out.My units seemed bent on ignoring the inferno. Still scrapped up a 100% on a premature Th10 with 1 inferno

2nd attack was much better and I actually managed a pincer style deployment. Wizards/Witches in the center. One group of valks running along the edge and another just on the inside of the opposite layer - healers keeping them going. Then as the groups formed a rough u shape, sent in the hogs on the side where my U was on the otter edge of the base and on the opposite redirected my valks to meet them in the middle. I totally annihilated the base, both witches, 2 wizards, 11 hogs, a very healthy king, 4 minions that someone got into my build survived the battle - though the last of my Valkyries was vaulted by a spring trap. Great attack - too bad it wasn't that strong a base

Against a strong Th10 though, I think healers don't have enough heal. They really need a 5th level too

Thanks so muchairbornes16 and jakewebs for the kind comments

This is a great thread, I'll be trying out a few of these!

I am really liking the addition of hogs.
It seems more stable in making sure my valkyries gets into the core.

This is on a pretty maxed base where i got no chance of getting out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEs6MBMNZw&feature=youtu.be

Awesoem thread, valks need recognition. Anyway best of luck for \/alhalla

Can I join the clan on the 1st? I finally stopped lurking and created a forum account just for this thread!

I've been experimenting with Valks but have trouble getting them into the core - they tend to target around the edges.

My IGN is derblott

Thanks!

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Can I join the clan on the 1st? I finally stopped lurking and created a forum account just for this thread!

I've been experimenting with Valks but have trouble getting them into the core - they tend to target around the edges.

My IGN is derblott

Thanks!

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Got cha on the list, we also have a LINE chat group if your interested

Do you guys use wall breakers? I'm not sure how well it'll work with valks, but the new strategy with gowipe is to wall breaker into the core, and use the jump to get out of the core

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Got cha on the list, we also have a LINE chat group if your interested

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I am derblott on line as well.

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Do you guys use wall breakers? I'm not sure how well it'll work with valks, but the new strategy with gowipe is to wall breaker into the core, and use the jump to get out of the core

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Interesting - wb can be used but I've typically used it to get into the core. Might have to try it


EDIT: Godson shows how the Valkyrie can pawn a whole clan castle!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuTmfQm7lis

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EDIT: Godson shows how the Valkyrie can pawn a whole clan castle!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuTmfQm7lis

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I tried this before, I think this is an okay strategy but not necessary good. You are sacrificing too much housing space (hogs + barbs + 1 valkyrie) just to clear the enemy's cc. There is also a possibility of failure if the valkyrie gets targeted by wizards. Even when successfully executed, the valkyrie will likely run away to the sides so you will still be losing that valkyrie anyway. Since most typical valkyrie strategy do not use alot of valkyries (6-12), I prefer not to use them at all for clearing cc.

Love this thread and it has been permanantly stuck to my bookmarks toolbar. Can't wait for the start of vallhalla...none of my clanmates understand my near obsession with my valks. Bet you when i get back from vallhalla and show them what ive learned, labs will be cooking redheads throughout the clan. Keep up the amazing work.

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Love this thread and it has been permanantly stuck to my bookmarks toolbar. Can't wait for the start of vallhalla...none of my clanmates understand my near obsession with my valks. Bet you when i get back from vallhalla and show them what ive learned, labs will be cooking redheads throughout the clan. Keep up the amazing work.

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I was called into our feeder clan recently to help soar up membership. I hadn't been in a lower level clan for a long time and we've had two wars.

I oblierated 2 bases in the first war with hogs n' valks. I also hit up a large number od low level CCs with the red heads. The second war I had a very disappointing 95% that the timer ran out on (hogs n' valks again). Then I went GoWiVa on a moderate th10 for two.

So now there are all these "noobs" who have no idea that the typical high level player thinks they are useless. I get all of these, "plz can I have a Valkyrie requests," lol.

I plan to revamp this thread once \/alhalla hits, updating it with all the knowledge I gain. Probally will add a section for hogs and giants. Hesler will preobally be filled within these two areas.

Anyway, many thanks :)

Another great vid

http://youtu.be/UHHRmZBdWRA

So near yet so far....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4-rBsRrec&list=UUD-VSn81cz1XDjFY932qKkQ

I caught that one on youtube zen


Ya 49% has to be my least favorite number in clash. Its so close, and yet not quite there.


I've been smacking around Th9 players with valks n' hogs (Four 3 stars, One 95% 1 star) but I don't feel like the bases are all that impressive I have been tackling so I haven't shared them. But I am perfecting there use.



I prefer sending my hogs in, under cover of the Valkyries and timing my rage to get both groups in it. But I've always used it for bases that don't have a complicated lure. Hogs are definitely easier to manage without a lure but I think when I get PEKKA up to speed that I might work them in (I have been using 4 healers) and develop the tactic more for Th10

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I caught that one on youtube zen


Ya 49% has to be my least favorite number in clash. Its so close, and yet not quite there.


I've been smacking around Th9 players with valks n' hogs (Four 3 stars, One 95% 1 star) but I don't feel like the bases are all that impressive I have been tackling so I haven't shared them. But I am perfecting there use.



I prefer sending my hogs in, under cover of the Valkyries and timing my rage to get both groups in it. But I've always used it for bases that don't have a complicated lure. Hogs are definitely easier to manage without a lure but I think when I get PEKKA up to speed that I might work them in (I have been using 4 healers) and develop the tactic more for Th10

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Check your vm. And do you have a valk guide for th8?

http://youtu.be/dUidZ-0pnnw

Hey Zen - I've practicing on th9 and weak th10 bases in war and have been sending the hogs in under cover of the Valks - you seem to hit initially with hogs/rage and follow up with hogs

Have you tried sending hogs in second about the time Valks are running out of steam, I been happy with my results

I initially tried to use hogs specifically for luring cc, and use the remaining hogs as backup unit to support the valks in getting out of the core. However I did not have very good result.

I refined the strategy and end up with rage + hogs which served the following purpose:
1) Lure out CC
2) Clear as many defense as possible
3) Ensure there is 1 straight path to the core with your main army (Valks & hero)

To elaborate further, a typical GoWiWi army uses 3 golems deploy on LRC (left/right/center). There is usually no need to lure cc as they may use lightning or rage once cc comes out. However for valkyries army, cc with witches and/or wizards can be potentially dangerous for your valks army. So I feel it is definitely better and safer to lure them out first before starting your attack. Due to the use of jump spell, I do not have space to carry lightning and I feel 2 rage and 2 freeze is too good for me to ditch them, therefore making luring out cc even more important.

Back on LRC, due to valks/witch/wizards army taking too much space, I decided to use 1 golem instead. I need to ensure I have 1 and only 1 path to the core. That is where the hogs + rage comes in. Sometimes I deploy all the hogs to clear the left, sometimes both left and right side, depending on base design. The idea is still the same, I am clearing all the possible "distraction" which may potentially split my main army. Clearing the defenses using hogs also make sure there is less firepower so that my golem can survive long enough to keep my main army healthy before reaching the core.

The next advantage of using hog+rage is that once that particular area of defenses are cleared, the perimeter buildings near that compartment becomes "free" buildings which I can use just a wizard or 2 to clear to help in getting the 50%. You also need to use wizards carefully to clear any side buildings on both left and right side before dropping your valkyrie/BK to the center.

I would like to do a full guide on this, but am really lazy... :(

Hi ..

Was just wondering if u ever encounter issues if a Drag pops out of the enemies CC other than wasting few wiz to kill it off?

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Hi ..

Was just wondering if u ever encounter issues if a Drag pops out of the enemies CC other than wasting few wiz to kill it off?

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Not usually a huge issue with wizards in the comp

wizards are a bigger pain

If you mean with a lure, than not yet - I am th10 - people always use archers/wiz in there cc with the occasional witch

http://youtu.be/LW2BgIjG74I

http://youtu.be/uYDgceqtbnU

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Not usually a huge issue with wizards in the comp

wizards are a bigger pain

If you mean with a lure, than not yet - I am th10 - people always use archers/wiz in there cc with the occasional witch

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Yea...I guess you are right. I don't think I even need to worry about luring after reading your guide. Was even a bit skeptical when you mentioned that multi infernos are not such a big deal for Valks....until I really tried it.

Been practising some. Tried with Giants but they are too squishy. Loving the combo with Gols and Wiz now :).

And thanks for the guide man. Truly helpful.

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Yea...I guess you are right. I don't think I even need to worry about luring after reading your guide. Was even a bit skeptical when you mentioned that multi infernos are not such a big deal for Valks....until I really tried it.

Been practising some. Tried with Giants but they are too squishy. Loving the combo with Gols and Wiz now :).

And thanks for the guide man. Truly helpful.

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thanks so much - glad to hear it!

Nio's Comp
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...psefad6d4e.jpg




http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...psd911f7d9.jpg


Zen's Hog Lure
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...ps498996b5.jpg

http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...psdb71a949.jpg

Hi, I wanna join the clan but the trophy request is too high at the moment im level 88 in gold 2 i was barching so dropped a few leagues. My Vallks are level3 and i want to get my attack with them better.

So how has the Valhalla clan been doing ? Any feedback on best strategies etc ? Would be great if you could share.

Bump...would also.like a recap of the event

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I am working on updating this guide. Did a GoVaPe video. Adding the hog strategies we developed and CoC girls (PEKKA, Valkyrie, witches - King strat). Also switching out healers in the guide for giant Startegies that nova last and NeggyBundy excelled at

Daddy visited and issued us a challenge - top 500. October 16 we plan and getting back together to meet the challenge. We for to 875 during the event but running war and trophy pushing is hard

We lost our 1st war but we won the next 3 in row. Crushed two of them and the 3rd one was close the whole time. We came up against reddit Indy - it was an uphill fight but we won!

We learned a lot and I plan to update this thread with the info :)

Damn... Only thing I am jealous is loot :0, i must go to 2700+ anyways great comb and Im excited to try HoVaPe later on, I hope there should be pushing clan for \/Alhalla not war/push clan, who know there will be another person reach champ using Valks combs

Gowiva seems weaker for th9 use vs other th9 max bases? For 3 star strag not 2 star? Whacha think guys any opinions? Thank you

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Gowiva seems weaker for th9 use vs other th9 max bases? For 3 star strag not 2 star? Whacha think guys any opinions? Thank you

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Depends on base design. GoWiVa and GoViz are actually solid strats but getting 3 stars takes practice and timing. I have to be honest it took me a long while to get my GoViz attack solid enough that I got 3 stars vs Th9 in war.

GoWiVa can manage if the Th9 base is more open. If you keep those golems out infront of your wiz/witches and the Valkyrie strip out the major threats, it can very well 3 star. I believe chief pat has a 3 star GoWiVa attack on a Th10 base

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikC-g1o_FqI

Yup there you go.


However, that being said - I prefer Valkyrie and Hogs Vs th9. I am working on that for an update to my guide :)

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Depends on base design. GoWiVa and GoViz are actually solid strats but getting 3 stars takes practice and timing. I have to be honest it took me a long while to get my GoViz attack solid enough that I got 3 stars vs Th9 in war.

GoWiVa can manage if the Th9 base is more open. If you keep those golems out infront of your wiz/witches and the Valkyrie strip out the major threats, it can very well 3 star. I believe chief pat has a 3 star GoWiVa attack on a Th10 base

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikC-g1o_FqI

Yup there you go.


However, that being said - I prefer Valkyrie and Hogs Vs th9. I am working on that for an update to my guide :)

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What would be your recc on a set army camp set up for a 3 staring strag on max th9s? other than Holowiwi/Hogs/Gowipe/Gowiwi?

Im wondering if i should max valks or max pekkas as a th9. whacha think??

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What would be your recc on a set army camp set up for a 3 staring strag on max th9s? other than Holowiwi/Hogs/Gowipe/Gowiwi?

Im wondering if i should max valks or max pekkas as a th9. whacha think??

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I actually favor Valkyrie and hogs vs th9.

10 Valkyrie, 15 Hogs, 2 witches, 4 valkyrie, 1 Golem or 6 Giants and wallbreakers 5

Sooooooo Many times ive seen 15 valks bout lvl 3, a few wiz, a Max Pekka in cc, 2 heals 2 rages All used up to middle. And this combo has 3 stared max th9s..... Any videos ya can post to elaborate more or something on perfecting this combo of units??

- Basically no golems at all used

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Sooooooo Many times ive seen 15 valks bout lvl 3, a few wiz, a Max Pekka in cc, 2 heals 2 rages All used up to middle. And this combo has 3 stared max th9s..... Any videos ya can post to elaborate more or something on perfecting this combo of units??

- Basically no golems at all used

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I have a replay. The base can be maxed buildings but it cant have maxed walls, walls and compartments are like the anti-valk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER9Em-in04w

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I have a replay. The base can be maxed buildings but it cant have maxed walls, walls and compartments are like the anti-valk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER9Em-in04w

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Hey k4! didnt kno u were on this fourm too

Hi everyone, I want to share my Valkyrie attack strategy for clan wars.

Here 14 videos : https://www.youtube.com/user/LordXhapire/videos

I love Valkyrie, this troop have big potential. Even with Valkyrie level 1 is more than good enough and level 4 Valkyrie is very impressing . That is my opinion . :)

Hey guys,
I have recently been using Valks as well they are working magic for me, the only problem as a town hall 9 I get wrecked my multi-infernos level two and upwards. I use 2 golems, 1 pekka, 12 valks, 12 wallbreakers and 10 wizards, this is including the clan castle as well. Working great had a couple of 3 stars on th9's and 2 stars on th10's.

Thanks
Samlauderuel