New Dark Elixir troop: Marksman

A quick idea for a dark elixir troop, named the marksman.

Bio: She was an average archer, but wanted to be better... so she dosed up on dark elixir, hoping to achieve better accuracy and hitting power. But her mortal body only suffered and she lost her right eye while her soul darkened making her a merciless killer. She acquired a new mechanical eye replacement from the wizards in the laboratory, a prototype they created to aid her with her vision. Left frail from the dark elixir, she kept to herself working on her accuracy and tried to return back to her former strength, but ultimately the effects were permanent. Others followed, lured by the idea of becoming a silent assassin that she had become as they were consumed by resentment for others which lead to isolation. What little humanity these assassins showed, was by giving their victims a quick and painless death by putting an arrow right between their eyes...

Stats:

• 3-4x damage against troops of any kind.
• makes it useful for dispatching clan castle troops or defending.
• Reduced damage to buildings?
• added time between each shot.
• slightly longer range than regular archer(this could be a problem and is pending)
• reduced health due to dark elixir.
• Cost:5 dark elixir
• takes up 2-4 space in army camp?(tell me what should be the number in that range.)
• Slightly increased speed than regular archer.

Cons:

• Lead to some imbalances
• make them overpowered when defending.

Appearance:

• Looks like level 5 archer with dark green cape and hood.
• one mechanical red eye protruding from right eye.(could be a black eye patch too.)
• Slightly large crossbow with metal bolts
• face is mostly dark due to over hang of the dark green hood casting a shadow over the face with red eye glowing.
• a dagger is stashed in her belt but is for cosmetic reasons only with no actual function.
• If used as a hero unit instead, a group of 5 assassins, regular size but follows the appearance stated before and could allow for more unique models.

Other:

• Has a rivalry with the archers!
• When the army camp is selected, she bows her head for for 2-3 seconds with her hood covering her face. (Alternative is he tugs her hood forward to cover her face more.)

Thank you for reading and I would like to get some feedback whether it is bad or good.:D

Please people give me feedback on this idea, is it to over powered or is there anything I should change?

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

Please people give me feedback on this idea, is it to over powered or is there anything I should change?

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I personally thinks that idea is great!Love it!:D Maybe change the idea of making it like a level 5 archer maybe something more of your own idea?Maybe make then take up a lot of space so when someone attacks you you can only fit a few in so that it does not go too over powered.Still great idea!!

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Originally Posted by ClashHelper

I personally thinks that idea is great!Love it!:D

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thanks for the positive feed back!

Honestly I think this may be considered in the future of DE troops but for now the next date that is coming up the new troop is the golem

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Originally Posted by Halo4Awesome

Honestly I think this may be considered in the future of DE troops but for now the next date that is coming up the new troop is the golem

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thanks for the feed back and I honestly thought people would say it is over powered.

Bumo check this out people!

this is definitely one of the better DE troop ideas out there.. not too overpowered and interesting :O

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Originally Posted by strikerage

this is definitely one of the better DE troop ideas out there.. not too overpowered and interesting :O

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Thanks, any suggestions?

People please post your thoughts on this, is it good?

Bump this thread.

Do you guys have any suggestions please comment because I would at least like to see this recognized.

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This troop would be awesome.

Bump? What does that mean?

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Originally Posted by Thecub

Bump? What does that mean?

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When someone on a thread posts a comment it sends the thread to the first page at the top so more people can see it so when someone says bump they can tell the comment was to move the thread to the top, kind of confusing.

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I must say no to my opinion on this one, mostly based on the fact that it has longer range than regular archers.
I often use archers to take out most of the outside buildings and camps, because people let their collectors and what not, stand in the open without being able to hit the archers from a distance. Though some clever players make sure the range of their defenses can hit archers as well. If you improve range for a troop to be even better than the range of archer, that troop could truly destroy a lot of things without defenses on the other side of wall being able to hit the troop, meaning most of the people in the game would need to rebuild their town, just to counter this extra range for the marksman troop.

But nice story about how she became as she is... But was she cloned afterwards into several copies... From the description it sounds like a unique person - more like a hero, instead of a mass produced troop :)

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Originally Posted by Zithral

I must say no to my opinion on this one, mostly based on the fact that it has longer range than regular archers.
I often use archers to take out most of the outside buildings and camps, because people let their collectors and what not, stand in the open without being able to hit the archers from a distance. Though some clever players make sure the range of their defenses can hit archers as well. If you improve range for a troop to be even better than the range of archer, that troop could truly destroy a lot of things without defenses on the other side of wall being able to hit the troop, meaning most of the people in the game would need to rebuild their town, just to counter this extra range for the marksman troop.

But nice story about how she became as she is... But was she cloned afterwards into several copies... From the description it sounds like a unique person - more like a hero, instead of a mass produced troop :)

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yea lol I was waiting for some one to realize the one problem with the story line... Thanks for your feed back and I'm sure that prob can be fixed.

by the way, I am hoping that its reduced damage will at least slightly balance that.

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Originally Posted by Zithral

I must say no to my opinion on this one, mostly based on the fact that it has longer range than regular archers.
I often use archers to take out most of the outside buildings and camps, because people let their collectors and what not, stand in the open without being able to hit the archers from a distance. Though some clever players make sure the range of their defenses can hit archers as well. If you improve range for a troop to be even better than the range of archer, that troop could truly destroy a lot of things without defenses on the other side of wall being able to hit the troop, meaning most of the people in the game would need to rebuild their town, just to counter this extra range for the marksman troop.

But nice story about how she became as she is... But was she cloned afterwards into several copies... From the description it sounds like a unique person - more like a hero, instead of a mass produced troop :)

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Fixed the bio problem and now fits together better.

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

Others followed, lured by the idea of becoming a silent assassin that she had become as they were consumed by resentment for others which lead to isolation. What little humanity these assassins showed, was by giving their victims a quick and painless death by putting an arrow right between their eyes...

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Haha I just love the way you just slided those lines in there :)

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Originally Posted by Zithral

Haha I just love the way you just slided those lines in there :)

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thanks did you see the part I put in about the archers and marksmen being rivals?

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I really like that idea but the name Marksman kind of sounds like a male troop.

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Originally Posted by RMN24

I really like that idea but the name Marksman kind of sounds like a male troop.

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yes, I agree with you but I can't think of anything else. Thanks for your postive feedback it is much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

yes, I agree with you but I can't think of anything else. Thanks for your postive feedback it is much appreciated!

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Targeteer.
mix between muskateer and target. E.g. Someone who from a distance targets with the precision of a muskateer

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Originally Posted by Zithral

Targeteer.
mix between muskateer and target. E.g. Someone who from a distance targets with the precision of a muskateer

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Your name just gave me an idea for a new unit that all defenses are distracted by and must target so it could be used as a distraction. But nice name, I like it.

Hey, when you visit this thread please post or vote! Thanks if you are reading this.

Maybe make it same range as archer.

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Originally Posted by Anonamys

Maybe make it same range as archer.

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Yea I was debating that thanks for the feed back.

I like the idea that it has a longer ranger but not the reduced damage and health. So far dark troops start off on the high end damage and hp wise. I think if it just used several spaces, like 4-6, and the slower fire rate then that would offer enough balance.

It's a good idea and all, but I find it too alike to just a regular archer. I myself am really interested in ideas that bring up entirely new concepts and ideas. Not to say that this idea isn't epic, especially with that bio, but I really like the risky provocative type.

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Originally Posted by Zombiebender

I like the idea that it has a longer ranger but not the reduced damage and health. So far dark troops start off on the high end damage and hp wise. I think if it just used several spaces, like 4-6, and the slower fire rate then that would offer enough balance.

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thanks I will consider what you said thanks for the feed back and we will see what SuperCell thinks if they look at this. Thanks for the feed back.

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Originally Posted by SirBacon

It's a good idea and all, but I find it too alike to just a regular archer. I myself am really interested in ideas that bring up entirely new concepts and ideas. Not to say that this idea isn't epic, especially with that bio, but I really like the risky provocative type.

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In some ways they are like archers and some ways not. They deal double damage to troops and possibly have longer range. The bio explains these are even a branch of of an archer and hopefully an alternative to them too. Thanks for your opinion and I see what you mean.

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

But her mortal body only suffered and she lost her left eye while her soul darkened making her a merciless killer. She acquired a new mechanical eye replacement from the wizards in the laboratory, a prototype they created to aid her with her vision.

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haha, a mechanical eye? that's funny. I like the idea, but instead of a battle torn archer, why not make it a hooded man with a crossbow, or just a regular bow and arrow? the troop sounds perfect and the extra range sounds good, and since his or her shots will be more powerful, they will shoot slower. here was what my vision of the "marksmen" or probably "assassin" would look like; a man with green eyes covered with a black hood and a red cloth covers his mouth. his clothes are all black but his belt and leather boots are brown. once this DE troop reaches level 3, he will acquire a black clothe over his mouth. and at level 5, this troop will wear all white along with the brown leather belt and boots.

This is a good idea but I think it should cost more than 5 dark elixir depending on how many hit points it has and speed. If it is only 5 dark elixir than it could easily become overpowered just because of the larger range and double attack power. Otherwise great idea :D

I like the idea! ;) I agree with you though. I think that it should cost a little more than 5 dark elixir. I don't know what a reasonable cost would be because i don't have dark elixir barracks. Also, love the story!

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Originally Posted by Yoshi427

I like the idea! ;) I agree with you though. I think that it should cost a little more than 5 dark elixir. I don't know what a reasonable cost would be because i don't have dark elixir barracks. Also, love the story!

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Most troops cost around six Dark elixir so I thought this would be a good price thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by Sevenk96

This is a good idea but I think it should cost more than 5 dark elixir depending on how many hit points it has and speed. If it is only 5 dark elixir than it could easily become overpowered just because of the larger range and double attack power. Otherwise great idea :D

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It has reduced damage to buildings hopefully to balance the double attack damage against normal troops.Thanks for the feed back!

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Originally Posted by Cristian

haha, a mechanical eye? that's funny. I like the idea, but instead of a battle torn archer, why not make it a hooded man with a crossbow, or just a regular bow and arrow? the troop sounds perfect and the extra range sounds good, and since his or her shots will be more powerful, they will shoot slower. here was what my vision of the "marksmen" or probably "assassin" would look like; a man with green eyes covered with a black hood and a red cloth covers his mouth. his clothes are all black but his belt and leather boots are brown. once this DE troop reaches level 3, he will acquire a black clothe over his mouth. and at level 5, this troop will wear all white along with the brown leather belt and boots.

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Sounds like the guy from assassins creed lol, thanks for the feed back.

I love your idea

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Originally Posted by Hiislol

I love your idea

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Thanks for the positive feedback and be sure to rate if you didn't.

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

A quick idea for a dark elixir troop, named the marksman.



Stats:

• 2x damage against troops of any kind.
• makes it useful for dispatching clan castle troops or defending.
• Reduced damage to buildings?
• added time between each shot.
• slightly longer range than regular archer(this could be a problem and is pending)
• reduced health due to dark elixir.
• Cost:5 dark elixir
• takes up 2-4 space in army camp?(tell me what should be the number in that range.)

Cons:

• Lead to some imbalances
• make them overpowered when defending.

Appearance:

• Looks like level 5 archer with dark green cape and hood.
• one mechanical red eye protruding from right eye.
• Slightly large crossbow with metal bolts
• face is mostly dark due to over hang of the dark green hood casting a shadow over the face with red eye glowing.

Other:

• Has a rivalry with the archers!

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I like this new marksman

I think you have the balances about right
I have a few extra ideas/question.
you have made him a troop killer you say he does less damage to buildings then 2x for troops, could he not be half normal archers power but 4x damage for troops, this looks more like what you are suggesting too me.

can they not climb onto buildings and walls to get their extended range. (normal on the ground)
if they climb on walls or buildings are they are still in reach to non ranged troops?

I would like to see his AI be changed if he has reduced health (which i agree with)
Make him back away from non ranged troops trying to attack them. any person using ranged wepons would never let a sword swinger close the gap so they can directly attack them!! they would move to avoid them closing the gap.

1 when retreating the marksmans fire speed drops to half or stops.
2 movement speed also reduces to half when retreating and fireing to allow non ranged troops to close the gap slowly.
3 if you allow him to climb on buildings and walls to extend his range then -
if he does climb he takes only half damage from non ranged troops but cannot shoot when climbing
but his movement speed is again reduced by climbing or walking along walls. and this is further reduced if he retreats on a wall or building.

final thing.

This new marksman/assassin could or should be a hero for defending your base you get just one and he never dies like the king/queen
you can attack with him but he would only be good against his alter ego in the defenders base or other clan troops.

good luck with your idea hope it gets added in some form or other.

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Originally Posted by Dave643

I like this new marksman

I think you have the balances about right
I have a few extra ideas/question.
you have made him a troop killer you say he does less damage to buildings then 2x for troops, could he not be half normal archers power but 4x damage for troops, this looks more like what you are suggesting too me.

can they not climb onto buildings and walls to get their extended range. (normal on the ground)
if they climb on walls or buildings are they are still in reach to non ranged troops?

I would like to see his AI be changed if he has reduced health (which i agree with)
Make him back away from non ranged troops trying to attack them. any person using ranged wepons would never let a sword swinger close the gap so they can directly attack them!! they would move to avoid them closing the gap.

1 when retreating the marksmans fire speed drops to half or stops.
2 movement speed also reduces to half when retreating and fireing to allow non ranged troops to close the gap slowly.
3 if you allow him to climb on buildings and walls to extend his range then -
if he does climb he takes only half damage from non ranged troops but cannot shoot when climbing
but his movement speed is again reduced by climbing or walking along walls. and this is further reduced if he retreats on a wall or building.

final thing.

This new marksman/assassin could or should be a hero for defending your base you get just one and he never dies like the king/queen
you can attack with him but he would only be good against his alter ego in the defenders base or other clan troops.

good luck with your idea hope it gets added in some form or other.

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with the damage thing, you are completely right I must have not realized that. Since she has a dagger maybe she can stab them in the gut even though I said it was for cosmetic only. For the scaling buildings idea, I think it might make the troop kind of broken but interesting too. Retreating would be interesting but the enemy troops could be following the marks woman and get shot while they are doing it so that might not work. Other wise great ideas and thanks for the support and positive feed back!

Hey do you guys have any better names for this troop besides marks woman which is the current name?

Eagle eye? Sniper? I dunno, I'm not good at naming things.

This is a great idea- I would love to see this troop!

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Originally Posted by GorixtheG

Eagle eye? Sniper? I dunno, I'm not good at naming things.

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I want something that has a feminine connotation, but thanks for giving me your input:D.

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Originally Posted by iansilv

This is a great idea- I would love to see this troop!

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thanks for the positive feedback and I also would want to see this implemented too.

Still looking for some feed back and good names and thanks for the support:D.

Great idea I think they should have same range as arch queen too so they are like a sniper assassin

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

Hey do you guys have any better names for this troop besides marks woman which is the current name?

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Deadeye, not feminine but fits with the description in a couple ways.

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Originally Posted by Zombiebender

Deadeye, not feminine but fits with the description in a couple ways.

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Ok I will consider that name as it is not feminine or masculen and thanks for the feed back.

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Originally Posted by Random

Great idea I think they should have same range as arch queen too so they are like a sniper assassin

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Ok. Thanks for the feed back!:D

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

Ok. Thanks for the feed back!:D

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Man, you could be Hired to think of these characters! :O

dude, it's already perfect. No need for editing,

Hey, just so you know, I've started a thread for picture commisions. If you want a picture of your markswoman/deadeye/whatever she's gonna be called, then post a description on my thread (link in signature).

I know I'm not supposed to promote threads, but you probably wouldn't notice otherwise.

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Originally Posted by GorixtheG

Hey, just so you know, I've started a thread for picture commisions. If you want a picture of your markswoman/deadeye/whatever she's gonna be called, then post a description on my thread (link in signature).

I know I'm not supposed to promote threads, but you probably wouldn't notice otherwise.

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Thanks I will post what I can I and I thank you for giving me this opportunity.:D

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Originally Posted by BlackNoyse

Man, you could be Hired to think of these characters! :O

dude, it's already perfect. No need for editing,

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Thanks I am glad to have your support on this idea and thanks for the complement!:D

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Originally Posted by Random

Great idea I think they should have same range as arch queen too so they are like a sniper assassin

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I will consider what you said and thanks for the positive feedback and I am glad to have your support.

Remember to reply with your ideas or comments!

Thumbs.... UP!!!

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Originally Posted by Baconman

Thumbs.... UP!!!

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Thanks for your UPward and optimistic look on my thread.:D

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

When someone on a thread posts a comment it sends the thread to the first page at the top so more people can see it so when someone says bump they can tell the comment was to move the thread to the top, kind of confusing.

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I don't get y people don't just say good idea instead

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Originally Posted by UnicornzFTW

I don't get y people don't just say good idea instead

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Well wouldn't it make sense to just edit your post than to post a comment?

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Originally Posted by PistolPete1234

Well wouldn't it make sense to just edit your post than to post a comment?

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Umm I don't see how that relates to war I said

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Originally Posted by UnicornzFTW

Umm I don't see how that relates to war I said

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Never mind...

Still looking for some feedback so feel free to comment.

Markswoman*

You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by DragonBorn

Markswoman*

You're welcome.

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Funny thing is that if you read the sub-title it said markswoman but thanks again for trying to help!:D

It could be "Arc Rebel" if it was to be made a Hero.

Hope it helps.

It could also be in a defense and have a x2 damage on archers for their hate to them.

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Originally Posted by evyii

It could also be in a defense and have a x2 damage on archers for their hate to them.

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ok both are good ideas and with their already being an archer tower it might be an OP defense

Please post your ideas and to tell me your thoughts.

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Originally Posted by evyii

It could be "Arc Rebel" if it was to be made a Hero.

Hope it helps.

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Nice name there. I kind of like it.:D

I love this idea! Ask supercell to move it in front of hog rider, because im town hall lvl 7 and want one :D. I think that it should be super fast, such as 24 move speed-fast and deadly.

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Originally Posted by ChiefBill

I love this idea! Ask supercell to move it in front of hog rider, because im town hall lvl 7 and want one :D. I think that it should be super fast, such as 24 move speed-fast and deadly.

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OK, glad to see how enthusiastic you are about this idea!

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I love this idea! Ask supercell to move it in front of hog rider, because im town hall lvl 7 and want one :D. I think that it should be super fast, such as 24 move speed-fast and deadly.

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It would be a good idea to have increased speed too, I will add that.

Still looking for suggestions

How many times have you bumped this idea?

That's good you have a good imagination hopefully they take on board what you've thought off

I think that all that's happening with clash of clans is that it is simply becoming harder for noobs to get started with all these dark troops, I started playing at Christmas 2012 and have not stopped so found it easy to get started. Yet now with all the more complex things that are simply out of reach for the newer players I thinks that it may be limiting the games audience unless an update adds a new troop or spell for the noobs. Great idea and sorry for going a bit off topic.

Maybe change the appearance? And rivalry with archers should be a hatred against the queen and one of her decisions?

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That's good you have a good imagination hopefully they take on board what you've thought off

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Glad to have your support and thanks for your kind compliment.

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I think that all that's happening with clash of clans is that it is simply becoming harder for noobs to get started with all these dark troops, I started playing at Christmas 2012 and have not stopped so found it easy to get started. Yet now with all the more complex things that are simply out of reach for the newer players I thinks that it may be limiting the games audience unless an update adds a new troop or spell for the noobs. Great idea and sorry for going a bit off topic.

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I respect your thoughts and agree with you so maybe this can be the first DE troop and easier to get for newer players.

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How many times have you bumped this idea?

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Too many, lol. Sorry...

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Originally Posted by UltraV

Maybe change the appearance? And rivalry with archers should be a hatred against the queen and one of her decisions?

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Sorry that the appearance is kind of unoriginal, but it is supposed to show the close resemblance with the markswoman and the archer.

Good but I'd actually have to see it in battle to say whether it is overpowered or not

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Good but I'd actually have to see it in battle to say whether it is overpowered or not

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Same question myself, wondering wether it might be overpowered...

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Sorry that the appearance is kind of unoriginal, but it is supposed to show the close resemblance with the markswoman and the archer.

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They would probably change it to Look like a rogue archer queen with an eyepatch or a scar on the face with a black hoody and a wooden croosbow

It is nice but it would be a bit OP specially if they give it the reduce damage against buildings.

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It is nice but it would be a bit OP specially if they give it the reduce damage against buildings.

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So let me clarify, your saying that if it gets a reduction in damage against buildings, it becomes OverPowered. I am curious what you mean.

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They would probably change it to Look like a rogue archer queen with an eyepatch or a scar on the face with a black hoody and a wooden croosbow

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Yea that's possible too, and the eyepatch might be better. Thanks for your input.

Need thirty more voters to get to one hundred votes.

People have been posting bad comments in my post, can you guys check it out and see of its good? http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...d-Supercell%29

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People have been posting bad comments in my post, can you guys check it out and see of its good? http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...d-Supercell%29

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Huh, why did you post this? You do have a few good ideas though.

Please post, it helps me keep the thread alive so Supercell just might see it. Also it helps me fix problems with stats too.

Please comment when you visit with your suggestions.

Maybe this could be a group of archers, five or so? They would regenerate like normal and would be regular sized (same size as regular archer?) allowing to use unique models for each assassin. Their platform/sleeping area would be a run down or overgrown archer tower or a hut? When sleeping they would return inside to regenerate then patrol around when not. Tell me whether you like this idea or not. And feel free to comment too.