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Clan wars are the only reason I play but I do lose money on them; they are an expense even if we win because we use the best troops and donate the best too. I'd say SC should increase the loot bonus to like 3 or 4 times of what they do give you. Do the same thing for single player goblin mode because there's no point in it as is. You don't get any trophies and only a couple thousand loot but you spend like 50k E just to get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3an
Actually I originally came from a clan of 50. 2nd of 4 clan family. We had similar issues with a few players doing all the work, and our leader was reluctant to fix it. Get this, in a clan of TH10s, 20+ TH9s, a handful of TH8 were the highest * scorers and stack up 10-15k donations between us each season. In the end we got sick of carrying the clan and left and formed our baby little clan haha. Although we have only been doing 10v10s, we have gone from 6* every war yet still losing to getting 2 30* perfect scores out of 4 wars we had. Never been happier. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by S3an
PS: I hit TH9 the day we formed new clan so I had to gem max my troops so our new clan did not suffer from the loss of higher troops. Don't regret that one bit.
The dark elixir component is an absolute joke.
Gold is fine as there is no gold expense, elixir possibly a small loss or small gain - but for many elixir is not a huge issue so let's just overlook that.
Dark Elixir sucks though, terribly. Woefully. Disgracefully.
A clan war win worth 250,000 gold, is worth 600 dark elixir. Ratio of 416:1
Let's compare to a full storage raid in the game itself. 400,000 gold, 3,000 dark elixir. Ratio of 133.1
Clearly that is totally skewed. Dark Elixir needs to pay out about 3 times what it does now to be equitable.
Would be really nice. Probably won't happen though.
edit: not probably won't happen most definetely will not happen unless its a dream.
Thank you for your time in reading this thread. Please vote in the poll. If you think the loot is enough in Clan Wars please write in this thread. I am trying to be objective but it is hard to be when I can not see how you can break even with elixir (especially dark).
I'm a TH10, usually one of the only TH10 in the war as my clan is mixed, and I visit other mixed clans. I normally hog both my battles, or use GoWi__ if necessary against a tougher TH10 in which hogging isn't viable. That right there is over 4000-5000de.... now add another 4000-5000de for what I'm donating to war CC and then regular donations for the war battles themselves. Yes, I typically spend around 10-12k in de per war and gain back 2500-4000de. So, I lose big...
... but who cares? This is war, this isn't farming. Imo CW has absolutely nothing to do with gaining loot, nor should it. A decent farmer can make back that much de in a few hours anyways. If the loss of de is getting to be too much then skip out on a few wars and let it build back up, or use armies that don't require a bunch of de. Not hard. My last battle (5 minutes ago) I was out of de as I just upgraded my AQ so I mass dragged their #1 player for 2*. I probably could have got 3* with hogs and my AQ, but it wasn't an option so I went and did the best I could otherwise.
I say leave the loot the way it is. Then again, I am not in a TH10 only clan battling other TH10 only clans so my view is different from theirs. I understand their concerns fully but still think that de drills and solid farming make up for it just fine.
I don't see how you can be objective when the title of the thread basically states that you find clan wars to be a hassle. That being said I think a poll that measured what you are trying to measure along with the frequency of clan wars with those players might prove to be more interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3an
What is the total cost for taking down 2 full blown th10s? tons of darks! you will never make them back from war.Quote:
Originally Posted by clanfun
If you are thinking about one star the bases to get the loot in war then you shall be kicked from any serious war clan, good thinking you get the money and let others carry you to the victory and pile of golds right?Quote:
Clan war is better than farming, what you do is to two stars or even one star the base, then you will get the loot bonus.
please pull out a calculator and add them up: 12 max witches + 3 max golems = ??? x 2 = ???Quote:
as for high cost of dark elixir you are talking about, not true, you lost only 1K.
Your suggestion is to be a puussy, a opportunist , a coward I have seen in so many wars. Please do not join any clan, clan war is an effort for the team, you have no mindset of team.Quote:
The only problem for you is the loss of the clan war, you would suffer.
My suggestion to you, do not attack in the early stage, do it only when your clan has a chance to win. Otherwise, just use some cheap troops to take down some low level bases to show your participation.
I would absolutely agree, sad thing is there is no motive to blowing 300k elixir to make max wizards to fill everyone's clan castle. Then you need to make troops strong enough to raid for an attempt at a star. Then it is a lost if you lose by 1 remaining star in the war.
I don't do wars often with my crew because quite frankly things are matched wrong, the balance is wrong. I can obtain 700K in less then an hour if I farm, and wars take 48HR. I just have no motivation to blow elixir like this.
I don't do clan wars to make profit, I do it for the sheer satisfaction of smashing my opponents and working together with my clan. It's an elixir/DE sink, and I know I have plenty of elixir to blow on dragons and spells.