It is not a troop, not a building, not a hero as we know them today, so what is it?

It was a night in June, troops gattering around the campfire after some rough battles. They share stories about their battles, epic victories and tremendous losses.

All troops share their bravest stories and most heroic actions as they discuss tactics for the nex battle. During the night at the campfire they more and more start to like the Barbarian King´s idea of building the catapult.

This catapult is different in any way compared to what have been seen on battles today. This is not a troop. It is not a defense. It is not a hero.
So, what is it?

Well, it is basically all together, it is troop, hero and defense. Where existing hero´s take a human form (Barbarian King and Archer Queen) and both are used in offense and defense, this new unit can be most compared with a hero allthough it is not a human form. It is a structure.

Being a structure rather than anything human the catapult cannot move without assistance of other troops. Typically the Catapult is carried by 10 - 20 Barbarians, depending on the level of the Catapult. It can also be moved by 2-4 giants.

The catapult can be carried into offense by the 2-4 giants or 10-20 barbarians. When all deployed giants and barbarians during an attack vanish, the catapult no longer functions.

(ps. this is all done to ensure this thing doesn´t get overpowered)

During this night at the campfire the King and Queen had a huge argument about this new catapult to be built. The final result of the debat being that Archer Queen will never go into battle together with Barbarian´s Catapult, how sad but true....

(ps2. again, to ensure this thing doesn´t get overpowered)


In offense, the Catapult is a great way of attacking enemy defense structures behind walls. But, it comes with a cost. The Barbarians moving and positioning the catapult along the battle field are not fighting and not causing any damage.

In defense, the Catapult, unlike other heroes, is stationary. It has a single 3 tile spot, and a certain radius, similar to mortar. It´s weak point is it´s backside as the catapult can only shoot in a 30 degree attack angle on it´s station and alltough it can be turned, this again requires barbarians and also time to do so.

If you´re attacking a base holding this catapult, watch for the direction it is pointing to and make sure to keep out of it´s range, this thing is dangerous!
But, can you sneak into the back?
You may stand a good change to destroy it before it is turned around, and even better, there may not be Barbarians in the castle to move this thing which would make them spread eagled :-)


Tell me what you think about the idea and I may put effort in adding levels/statistics and artwork.
Just on the lookout first to see if the idea is liked or not.

Personally I really like this idea! I like how it's not the stereotypical "oh let's make a catapult troop"! But you should also think of a special ability for it if it's like a hero. I very much like how you solved the problem of using too many heroes in battle inside the backstory. Job well done.

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

Personally I really like this idea! I like how it's not the stereotypical "oh let's make a catapult troop"! But you should also think of a special ability for it if it's like a hero. I very much like how you solved the problem of using too many heroes in battle inside the backstory. Job well done.

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Thanks, and I agree, there should be a special ability if it is a hero allthough not human. I have not yet put thought on this paticular subject and I am open to ideas. The first that comes into my mind is maybe have the Catapult be able to take back swing shots as a unlocked talent at certain level (meaning it will become harder to attack from the backside). As said, open to ideas...., and thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by mcleo

Thanks, and I agree, there should be a special ability if it is a hero allthough not human. I have not yet put thought on this paticular subject and I am open to ideas. The first that comes into my mind is maybe have the Catapult be able to take back swing shots as a unlocked talent at certain level (meaning it will become harder to attack from the backside). As said, open to ideas...., and thanks for the feedback.

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So I was thinking, the Catapult has a 30 degree range field of view even in battle too, right? Well the special ability could increase the tile range in front of the Catapult like 4-5 tiles and it could go from 30 degrees to 50 degrees. Then the barbarians and giants wouldn't have to carry it as far or turn it for the duration of the ability. And maybe whatever it hits it freezes for 2 seconds during the ability.

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

So I was thinking, the Catapult has a 30 degree range field of view even in battle too, right? Well the special ability could increase the tile range in front of the Catapult like 4-5 tiles and it could go from 30 degrees to 50 degrees. Then the barbarians and giants wouldn't have to carry it as far or turn it for the duration of the ability. And maybe whatever it hits it freezes for 2 seconds during the ability.

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That is not bad idea either ;-)
It´s a bit harder to limit for a certain amont of time similar to the other talents I guess...., not sure.
Good thinking, really looking for input here.

Personally, I like the part that it requires troops to be moved along in offense as offense is already typically better than defense.

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Originally Posted by mcleo

That is not bad idea either ;-)
It´s a bit harder to limit for a certain amont of time similar to the other talents I guess...., not sure.
Good thinking, really looking for input here.

Personally, I like the part that it requires troops to be moved along in offense as offense is already typically better than defense.

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Well if you made the ability only last 5 seconds at level 1 and 15 seconds at level 8 then you would still have to carry it. Also, maybe you should make it so it takes at least 1 barbarian for the Catapult to even shoot, then if it was in any decent range of defenses it would still be vulnerable and not too OP.

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Well if you made the ability only last 5 seconds at level 1 and 15 seconds at level 8 then you would still have to carry it. Also, maybe you should make it so it takes at least 1 barbarian for the Catapult to even shoot, then if it was in any decent range of defenses it would still be vulnerable and not too OP.

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thats what he said, if the 10-20 barbarians/archers or the 2-4 giants are not there, it cannot be carried into offense as it is to heavy. i think this is a well balance troop/machine

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Originally Posted by HeavensFace

thats what he said, if the 10-20 barbarians/archers or the 2-4 giants are not there, it cannot be carried into offense as it is to heavy. i think this is a well balance troop/machine

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You got it. It could make sense that the machine would still shoot with a few, not all barbarians/giants left, as I can imagine a machine like this requires less human force to swing-to-aim compaerd to move around. I think maybe the movement and swing speed should decrease if numbers of troops manning the machine decrease.

Thanks,
McLeo

Just bumping this to hopefully get more input.
It seems so far the feedback is open and pretty ok, so looking for more feedback.

Thanks in advance,
McLeo

Great idea! Maybe you could have some stats, like level/Damage/Hit points.

I think that it is getting too underpowered. You only said that it would have a lot of limitations. Will it have a very good attack? Will it be invulnerable? Honestly, I wouldn't buy it with the few informations I have. :p

Hey, heres and idea. Make it its max to lvl 40(so it does fit abit more into a hero) and everytime it upgrades 5 more barbs or giants are added. So my proposal is:LVL.1-5: 10 BarbsLVL.6-10: 15 BarbsLVL.11-15: 20 BarbsLVL.16-20: 25 BarbsLVL.21-25: 4 GiantsLVL.26-30: 6 GiantsLVL.31-35: 8 GiantsLVL.36-40: 10 GiantsThe Attack should start at around 250 and go up by 10 every upgradeThe Hit points should start at 1750 and go up by 250 every upgradeSpeed is same as the Barbs or Giants depending on which level it is Also since its a catapult, it should cost to load the balls(or whatever is launching out of it)I think if it is going to be OP it should cost Dark Elixer to load.These were just some thoughts while I was on this thread.-Colt240

I thank you all for feedback and will work on some stats this week (and maybe some art)

Thanks,
McLeo

Sorry to put a close to all this, but catapults are ruled out by SuperCell. Read this: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

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Originally Posted by Seanster999

Sorry to put a close to all this, but catapults are ruled out by SuperCell. Read this: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

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You are incorrect, catapults are listed under troops already proposed via this forum but they are not listed as ruled out. Plus, the catapult listed here is different than any other proposal on the forum so this idea still stands, pretty sure on this :-)

It's ruled out

COOL~:cool::cool:
The way you type it is like a story~
Good idea.
But it takes me too much time to read it:p

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It's ruled out

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No, it is not ruled out. Why do people think this is ruled out?
Are you actually reading the stickies?

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Originally Posted by mcleo

It was a night in June, troops gattering around the campfire after some rough battles. They share stories about their battles, epic victories and tremendous losses.

All troops share their bravest stories and most heroic actions as they discuss tactics for the nex battle. During the night at the campfire they more and more start to like the Barbarian King´s idea of building the catapult.

This catapult is different in any way compared to what have been seen on battles today. This is not a troop. It is not a defense. It is not a hero.
So, what is it?

Well, it is basically all together, it is troop, hero and defense. Where existing hero´s take a human form (Barbarian King and Archer Queen) and both are used in offense and defense, this new unit can be most compared with a hero allthough it is not a human form. It is a structure.

Being a structure rather than anything human the catapult cannot move without assistance of other troops. Typically the Catapult is carried by 10 - 20 Barbarians, depending on the level of the Catapult. It can also be moved by 2-4 giants.

The catapult can be carried into offense by the 2-4 giants or 10-20 barbarians. When all deployed giants and barbarians during an attack vanish, the catapult no longer functions.

(ps. this is all done to ensure this thing doesn´t get overpowered)

During this night at the campfire the King and Queen had a huge argument about this new catapult to be built. The final result of the debat being that Archer Queen will never go into battle together with Barbarian´s Catapult, how sad but true....

(ps2. again, to ensure this thing doesn´t get overpowered)


In offense, the Catapult is a great way of attacking enemy defense structures behind walls. But, it comes with a cost. The Barbarians moving and positioning the catapult along the battle field are not fighting and not causing any damage.

In defense, the Catapult, unlike other heroes, is stationary. It has a single 3 tile spot, and a certain radius, similar to mortar. It´s weak point is it´s backside as the catapult can only shoot in a 30 degree attack angle on it´s station and alltough it can be turned, this again requires barbarians and also time to do so.

If you´re attacking a base holding this catapult, watch for the direction it is pointing to and make sure to keep out of it´s range, this thing is dangerous!
But, can you sneak into the back?
You may stand a good change to destroy it before it is turned around, and even better, there may not be Barbarians in the castle to move this thing which would make them spread eagled :-)


Tell me what you think about the idea and I may put effort in adding levels/statistics and artwork.
Just on the lookout first to see if the idea is liked or not.

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Accidently stumbled upon this thread and I think its brilliant.
I know this is a 4 months old thread but I think its a great idea;)

No matter how much you like this it is against the rules to bump old threads. So don't bump old threads. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Cooper123

No matter how much you like this it is against the rules to bump old threads. So don't bump old threads. Thank you.

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I think this thread is very much alive and not old to be honest. I personally think, and this may sound weird from me being the author, this is one of the better ideas on the forum and has every right to be bumped (not that this reply is intended to bump the thread).

Mucho intresting idea.