Coldfury’s Strategy Guide for TH9/TH10 max gold per hour farming using BAM

I have seen a lot of threads about how bad loot is at TH9 and TH10 and how various people struggle to farm for walls in CoC. My experience has always been the opposite, in that I feel loot is insane at TH9, and it's lower at TH10, but still pretty darn good.

Certainly loot goes up and down, but no matter what it does you should strive to farm it as efficiently as possible. If you’re hitting next 150 times waiting for a 200k Gold base, then you’re not doing it right. Also, if you’re hitting the first 50k Gold base you see to avoid nexting costs then you’re not doing it right either.

I’ve managed to consistently farm very successfully through all the loot ups and downs as a TH9 and now TH10 so I figured I’d break down my farming methodology into key areas and give you my thought process on each of them. I am always looking to improve my farming, so this is a work in progress and by no means do I claim this to be the “best” way to farm gold. It’s simply the “best” way I've found to consistently farm gold as fast as possible.

Gold Mines
Let’s start with an easy one. Gold mines are often overlooked by farmers because of the small amount of gold you get compared to raiding. If I can raid 200k Gold in 10 minutes, why do I care about upgrading my mines?

Let’s break down the numbers though. At TH9 you have 6 gold mines and at TH10 you have 7. If you max them out, you get 3,000 gold per hour per mine. So that’s 504k Gold per day as a TH10, or 432k per day as a TH9.

Calculate that over 30 days, and you’re at 15m Gold per month at TH10 or 13m Gold per month at TH9 for free. If you’re farming skull walls at TH9, that’s 26 walls per month, or 13 Lego walls for month doing absolutely nothing. Take it out to 12 months and I think you get the idea, so maxing your mines is priority 1. :)

Upgrade your money makers
I’ve played many different games over the years and fairly consistently across all of them is to upgrade your economy items first, then work on your defenses. CoC is no different, because the faster you can make gold the faster you can upgrade your defenses and walls. If you upgrade all your defenses and neglect your camps/troops then you have nothing worth protecting and it’s just makes progression slower.

So, my personal preference and recommendation to anyone who wants to maximize their farming is to max out your camps/barb/arch/minions/rage spell at a minimum. If you’re trying to farm with lvl 4 barb/arch against TH9 bases, it’s going to be a lot more difficult and more importantly slower.

Understanding the loot penalty and how it effects you
Most of you probably already know this, but in an attempt to be thorough I want to cover it.
From the Clash of Clans wiki page: the maximum amount of available loot is calculated as the loot available times the loot multiplier.

• 5% for attacking someone with a Town Hall (TH) 4+ levels lower than the attacker's.
• 25% for attacking someone with a TH 3 levels lower than the attacker's.
• 50% for attacking someone with a TH 2 levels lower than the attacker's.
• 90% for attacking someone with a TH 1 level lower than the attacker's.
• 100% for attacking someone with a TH level equivalent to the attacker's.

To greatly simplify this, if you’re a TH10 you are going to be attacking TH9/10 only and if you’re a TH9 you are going to be attacking TH8/9/10 only. If you attack 2 TH’s below you, then you have a 50% loot penalty applied, so it’s rarely worth it.

Trophy range to farm in
Trophy range is one of the most important aspects of a good farming strategy and I feel it’s also an area where many people struggle with their farming, so make sure you’re keeping an eye on your surroundings as your nexting away.

Raiding is really a game of odds and chance because we have no control over what base will be presented, so our goal is to increase the odds as much as we can in our favor by selecting the appropriate trophy range to get the highest number of “sweet spot” bases we can.

With BAM, we really try to prey on the weaker/premie bases and collector raids. Based on the loot penalty above, we want to primarily farm within the trophy ranges where the majority of those premie bases live. Generally speaking TH8’s live in the 1500-1700 range, TH9’s live in the 1700-1900 range, and TH10’s are in the 1900+ range with the premie’s hanging on the lower ends of those ranges and stragglers all over the place. It’s not always the same of course, so this is why I say keep an eye on your surroundings and make sure you can identify the TH’s you’re primarily seeing and move up or down if necessary.

Most of us know what a TH9 and TH10 look like, but make sure you can easily tell the difference between a TH7 and TH8.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps8febf312.png

TH7

TH8

TH9

TH10

If you’re a TH9 and 15 out of the last 20 bases you’ve been presented with are TH7, then your trophies are too low and you need to move up. Yes, you will still find the occasional TH8 or TH9 where you’re at, but you’re odds are greatly reduced of finding a “juicy” base worth attacking. If you have 15 out of 20 that are TH8/TH9 then the odds of a “juicy” premie or collector base are much greater.
Also, if you’re a TH9 and 15 out of the last 20 bases are TH10 and you’re seeing fewer and fewer TH9/8 bases then you’re likely too high in trophies making it harder to find a base where you can actually get to the loot they have. So, if you get too high, you’re pretty much only able to attack collector bases which, depending on the day, could make for a slow farming day.

Identifying where loot is at in the bases you find
Here is where you really make your money. I’m sure we’ve all had that base showing 430k gold with bursting storages in the middle and mines that are showing some gold in them. We go in full forced at the mines/pumps and finish the raid with 30k total gold not understanding what the heck just happened.
I feel it starts by understanding the loot caps for each TH level, the loot penalties applied to them, what the various storages/mines look like at different “full” levels. All of this helps us determine where the actual loot is when we see that juicy base.
Once we understand where the loot is at, we can determine if it’s reachable or not with the army we have.

Storages
Here is the maximum amount of loot that’s available from each respective TH level. The cap is probably the most important to remember because it tells us how much gold is required to be in each storage for them to be at the “storage cap”. This in turn tells us how much is available in their mines. (info from CoC Wiki)

TH Level	% Available	Cap	Storage to reach Cap
8	14%	300k	2.1428M
9	12%	350k	2.9167M
10	10%	400k	4.0000M

For each of the respective storages they roughly have to be 1/3 full in order to be at the storage cap.
Here is what each storage looks like at the various levels.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0eb0c81b.png

0% – 25%

25% - 50%

50% - 75%

75% - 100%

It’s not an exact science, but if the storages are 50% or greater, then you know that 350k (th9) or 400k (th10) is definitely in the storages and the rest is in the mines.

When I attacked this guy I saw that his storages were at 50% or greater. So, I instantly knew that he had 400k (loot cap) available in storages and 77k in mines.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...psc346dbd8.png

Here’s another one where he’s a TH9 with 50% or greater gold storages. Knowing TH9 cap is 350k and I have a loot penalty of 10% I immediately know that 315k of loot is available from storages and the rest is in the mines.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...psbdf936f7.png

Gold Mines
For Gold Mines, you can steal a total of 50% of what is available. So a lvl 11 gold mine can get you as much as 75k Gold per mine if it’s completely full at 150k.

Similar to gold storages, the mines have graphics to indicate how full they are. (not sure of exact %, so approx. If you know exact please let me know so I can update)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps2db3ffdd.png

~0-10%

~10%-25%

~25%-50%

~50%-75%

~75%-100%

Using what we’ve learned looking at this base we can do some calculations. The storages could be empty, or they could be up to 25%, which would be 2M Gold, or up to a little over 200k to me with loot penalty/cap. However, when we look at the mines we can see that they’re between 25%-50% full. So at 25% full we’d be looking at a minimum of 18.75k Gold per mine multiplied times 6 gives us a minimum gold from mines of 112.5k or a max of 225k if they’re closer to 50%. So, armed with the information from both mines and storages I feel comfortable that the vast majority of the 162k is in the mines.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...pscd9c8a2f.png

If the mines are empty, you can assume that near 100% of the loot is in the storage. Here’s a defense I had where I just looted my mines and logged off. I’m showing “empty” storages, but I’m also showing empty mines. So near 100% of the 149k loot is in my storage.
You can also use the elixir as a tell. You can see my elixir is maxed and my elixir available is showing 411k. So, across all my elixir pumps there’s a total of 11k elixir which is likely the same as my Gold.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps8df3fea7.png

Army Composition, spells, and barracks build order
I’ve farmed with quite a few different army compositions and BAM (Barbarian/Archer/Minion) is by far my favorite for a few reasons. One, it’s the fastest building army out there because it uses all 6 barracks to build. Second, It’s really easy to keep queued up in the barracks and requires almost zero thought to re-queue (you’ll see why that’s good later). Third, it packs more of a punch (with rage) to go deeper into bases if necessary. Fourth, barb/arch/minion build times are fast so army build is extremely quick.
The minions are also great for sniping those last few gold mines that are just out of reach for archers.

Here's my barracks layout:
Barracks 1 & 2 (full archers)
Barracks 3 & 4 (full barbs)
Dark Barracks 1 & 2 (15/15 minions when necessary) 30 total
Spell factory (non stop rage)

As you can tell, it requires pretty much zero interaction with the barracks other than topping them off after each attack. I like things simple.

The final army comp varies from battle to battle, but as a TH10 it usually ends up around 100 Barb/80 Archers/30 Minions.

Full build time takes 4m 10s boosted (15+ attacks per hour), or 16m 40s regular (~4 attacks per hour) as a TH10. TH9 is crazy fast at 3m41s boosted (16+ attacks per hour), or 14m45s regular (~4 attacks per hour)
I feel that 3 barracks archers and 1 barracks minions is a little stronger, but I really try to emphasize quantity over quality on my army. Switching to 3 rax archers and 1 barb adds approximately 20 seconds to each army build, which over 14-15 attacks in a boosted hour works out to one less attack per hour. So, will I get an additional 150-250k per hour by having a few more archers? I’ve generally found the answer to be no.

Prior to each raid I top off my 4 regular barracks so they’re fully queued, I do not start any minions because I don’t use them every attack, or I may only use 5-10 of them. So, at the end of every attack I queue the appropriate number of minions split across both dark barracks.

How to BARCH for collector raids
Our number one target, when we find them is collector raids. These are the ones with those beautifully full gold mines sitting there just begging to be hit.

I’m sure most of you know what to do with these, but there’s still some efficiency to be gained.
First step is to lure the hero’s if they’re alive and or CC if possible. One nice thing about collector bases is that it’s rare to have bombs/CC’s charged.

One of the advantages of having more barbs than archers is that we have more meat shields. So, when you see that row of gold mines, you can send in a wave of barbs, and then lay down a row of archers behind them. As the barbs are about to die you send in another row of barbs to keep your archers up longer. Then add more archers as needed.

If gold mines are behind one layer of walls, then you’ll want to sweep barbs wider on both sides of the mine as well as archers. If you send them all in at one spot a mortar will have fun with your troops. If there is a mortar, try to time your archer/barb release right after the last mortar strike to maximize the damage your troops inflict.

If you have excess trophies to spare, don't go for the win on collector bases. Use the fewest troops possible to get the gold and then surrender so you can attack the next guy sooner. Remember, quantity over quality. By "losing" the 200k gold collector raid only using 40 troops, you just added an extra attack for the hour and possibly increased your gph by 150k-250k.

Here's a couple simple BARCH collector raid examples. I was low on trophies at the time, so I need to 50% each base. However, if I had trophies to spare I would have just grabbed the mines on each one of these and quit. If possible, I try to use as few barb/arch as possible to get the 50% to speed up the time required until the next attack.
http://youtu.be/0yDyK51K9zM

How to BAM for deeper gold
Now is the fun part. We get to learn one of the best attack strategies in the game.

BAM, which stands for Barbarian/Archers/Minions is fairly straight forward as an attack strategy, but you do have to learn its capabilities and its limitations. You’ll inevitably mess up some attacks, but it doesn’t take long to learn what you can and can’t do.

OK, we’ve determined that a base has a significant amount of gold in its storages, but can we get to it?
BAM is an attack strategy that pretty much floods one side of a base with 100 barbs, 80 archers and lets them chew through the first 2 layers of defense. You then send in 1 minion to test for air bombs (I sometimes send 3 spread out a little). Then you dump the rest of your minions and hit em with a rage spell. Then you just watch the minion buzz saw wreck their storages.

So, as you can imagine, it’s best suited for storages that are fairly close together. If there are four storages in four corners of the base, there’s pretty much no way you’re going to get them all. This doesn’t mean you’ll never do it, because if they’re showing 400k gold available and it’s all in storages, hitting two full storages for 200k gold is a worthwhile attack.

What to look for
Storages clumped together
Air Defenses, Wizard Towers spread out on the edges
X-bows down (you can still overwhelm an up one, but down is obviously easier)

What to avoid
Inferno Towers – they just wreck minions
Clumped wizard towers near storages
Spread out gold storages
High level walls – your barb/archers can’t get through them to get to the second/third layer

Here’s an example of what I’d consider a textbook “BAM base”. The guy has most of his defenses on the perimeter with his storages relatively close in the center. Not a good idea when the BAMFury express comes to town. :)
Remember, this army took 4 minutes to build. I used a couple rage spells on this attack, but I only use them on occasion when there's a juicy base like this so I pretty much always have at least 1 or 2 ready to use.
http://youtu.be/sn1cAdIpk_c

I won’t spend a ton of time on BAM, because there are a lot of youtube video’s of people describing it. I’ll certainly post some video’s here so you can get a feel for how I raid. I probably use the minions more to pick off mines here and there than I do a full BAM attack to the core.

Here's another example of a storage raid of a premie base. This is the one from the screenshot I used earlier. I knew there was 400k of gold in storages and 77k in the mines, so I wanted to get both. I try to save my minions for any deep push towards the end. So, I sent in small wave after wave of barb/arch to get the first two storages and then saved my minions for all the mines & remaining storages at the top.
http://youtu.be/jlKAcGmLOys

Barracks queue time while nexting
There’s a little known secret that you get credit for your entire nexting and battle time towards your barracks build time after your battle. Meaning if you are nexting for 60 seconds and then fight for 3 minutes and come back to base, your next army is sitting there 100% done (when boosting). This isn’t a huge deal with regular speed play, but when boosting it’s a massive increase to gph.

Nexting and base selection
Now comes that part that everybody hates. Next, Next, Next, Next, Next… :cool:

As I mentioned earlier, you want to make sure you’re in the right zone for your target TH range. If you’re a TH9 you want to be mostly seeing mid TH8 and premie TH9 bases to choose from. If you’re a TH10, you want to be seeing mostly mid TH9 and premie TH10 bases. It could be different now, but my TH9 sweet spot was usually in the 1700-1900 range. As a TH10, it seems to be in the 1950-2050 range.

I almost exclusively farm boosted because I feel the barracks queue time while nexting is a huge benefit to my overall gph. What I do is I search for a base with 200k+ gold that’s reachable, but I search for a maximum of 2 minutes. I keep nexting and nexting until I hit my 2 minute window. I glance over to the clock each time I start searching and after approximately 2 minutes of nexting I drop my threshold to 100k+ gold bases and hit the next one I see. If I’ve wandered into too low of a trophy range I’ll hit some 100-150k bases that are easy wins to bump up trophies, but generally try not to until after the 2 minute minimum.

The reason I do this, is because as soon as I finish an attack after two minutes of nexting and return to my base I have another army completely ready to go. Remember, 4 minute build times boosted. So, that gives me 2 minutes to search, 2 minutes to attack, re-queue all barracks and start again.
No matter what return I get on the attack after 2 minutes, it’s better than sitting there nexting away for 5 more minutes waiting for that “perfect” base.

I’ve found that patience with “nexting” is the true key to big gold profits. If you find yourself hitting the first 100k base you see, then you will rarely be presented with the 200k+ base and your gph will always be low. However, if you hit next for another 90 seconds it may cost you 20k in gold, but for the 200k, 300k, or 400k base you find two or three times an hour it makes it all worthwhile.

OK, now you found that base with 250k of loot available. You will need to use the tools I gave you above to quickly identify if you can get to the loot or not. If it’s all in the storages surrounded by IT’s then next it is. If it’s a premie base with clumped storages in the center, it’s BAM time. If it’s a full collector raid, then it’s party time.
Don’t be afraid to mess up, because you have another army waiting for you as soon as you get back to camp. It makes life a lot less stressful.

Things you can do to increase your gph
Keep an eye on your trophy range so you don’t fall out and try to hit the 50% when possible. There’s nothing worse than falling out of your sweet spot and spending 30 minutes fighting your way back up in trophies to get back in it.

Know how long you've been searching for the attack you're on. If you get an easy collector raid right away and dump your full army you will be sitting for 3 minutes waiting on your troops. However, if you just use 40 or 50 barb/arch and grab the mines real quick and quit you will have an instant full army again to continue searching for the next battle as soon as you return to base. On the flip side, if you've been searching for 2 or 3 minutes, you can use your entire army because you know that you'll have a full army completed when you get back to base. I usually get anywhere from 2-5 extra attacks per hour by simply doing this.

Remember, it’s all about gph and increasing your quantity of attacks is the best method to blow it out of the park.

Defending your loot
Hey, you’re a farmer now, so you need to start thinking like a farmer. Farmers don’t care about losing trophies overnight, we care about losing loot overnight.

Defense is just like attacking in that you want to do everything you can to improve your odds of “NOT” being attacked. The best way to not be attacked is to have a shield on and the fastest way to get a shield is to put your TH on the outside.

Similar to attacking, there’s a right way and a wrong way to put your TH outside your base. If you put your TH right up next to your base, then you are minimizing the number of people who are going to hit your TH. If you have 10 TH7’s trying to get to crystal next by your base and a TH10 then shows up to rock your world, you have failed. However, if you put your TH way outside your base so it’s unprotected in the corner and even go so far as to put decorations around it to let the low level guy know that he has zero risk by taking your TH, then you have increased your odds of getting sniped as high as you possibly can.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps32e0b4bb.png

This doesn’t mean you’ll never get attacked, but it does mean that you have the greatest chance of getting a shield as quickly as possible.

A couple weeks ago I had my entire defense log filled with TH snipes. Not asingle person tried attacking me and I was sitting on capped gold/elixir/DE almost the entire time. I’d guess that half to 2/3 of the attacks were by lvl 3 or 4 archers or very low level queens from TH7/8 folks pushing trophies.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps3c123f12.png

Here's a replay one of my clan mates shared a few weeks back. It's one of those we like to chuckle about where the guy tried grabbing the TH and didn't succeed. You can tell this attacker just gave up on the TH and tried to grab some mines to salvage what he could. It"seems" like he made a point to NOT give the defender a shield.

So,the defender shared this as a successful defense, but I personally view it as a defensive failure. What if a TH10 rolled in 15 minutes later and 3 starred him?
http://youtu.be/Zk32OKeCkPk

What to expect
Obviously there’s going to be a learning curve, so don’t expect to be cranking 4m gold per hour the first time you try this, but I will tell you it’s absolutely doable on some nights and others, it's not.

As aTH9, I would average anywhere from 3M gold per hour to 4.5M gold per hour(boosted) fairly consistently. As a TH10 it’s lower, but still pretty good. I managed to pull close to 4M (boosted) per hour two nights last week, but I’d say I’m generally in the 3M-3.5M gph range on most nights as a TH10.

There are certainly days when loot is just horrible and you might have a tough time making 2M (boosted) gold per hour, but there are also those early Saturday mornings where every other base you hit is 400k collector raids and you’re getting over 6M gold per hour.

The important thing to remember is to maximize your efficiency in getting the highest gph possible with the current loot being offered. Don't get too wrapped up in always hitting X amount of gold per hour, because it's just not practical.

Raiding Example
As much as I’d love to just post a bunch of cherry picked 400k+ raid videos to make you all think I farm 6M gold per hour non-stop I thought it will be much more helpful and productive to simply show you 30 minutes of me raiding. I kicked off my boost and recorded the first 30 minutes of my session last night. You can see exactly what kind of bases I’m seeing as a TH10, which ones I skip and which ones I attack. No editing or cherry picking whatsoever.

One thing of note, you’ll see that I was seeing quite a few TH8 bases early on, so I immediately identified that my trophy range was too low for this raiding session and started to adjust upwards. This resulted in me sniping a few more TH’s than I normally would and hitting several bases with under 200k gold prior to the 2 minute window I mentioned above to get my trophies up a little higher.

http://youtu.be/7tWHaff8AuY

Even with a couple bad attacks and hitting several lower loot bases I started with 1.758M Gold and 33 minutes later had 3.285M gold. So, all nexting, win bonuses,etc. added in I netted 1.527M Gold in just over 30 minutes. So, now you can point to this video when people say it’s impossible to farm gold at TH10.

What if I don't want to Boost?
There is absolutely nothing you need to do differently without boosting. I do the same strategy throughout the day without boosting and only boost when I know I've got a couple hours straight I can play. The only real adjustment I make when not boosting is I tend to search a little bit longer at times and I also try to hit every open TH I can for quick win bonuses. The extra trophies give me more flexibility to snipe collector mines and surrender without having to worry about my trophy count.

What is the minimum TH/troop level for this strategy?
With the simplicity and build speed of the army, this same philosophy really works all the way from TH1 through TH10. Obviously you can't use the minions until TH7, and even then DE is so sparse in good farming ranges that they're not too viable.

Without question, the higher level your troops the better you will do, but overall it's still the most efficient way I've found to farm no matter what your troop levels.

If you're a premie TH10; First off, I apologize for taking all your loot. Second, you will still need to farm in the same range as an updated TH10, but this strategy will still work well. You may have to focus on collector bases more and won't have the option to go deep on storage raids, but you can still have a fair amount of success. The important thing is to focus on your money maker upgrades first over defenses.

I have a second account that's TH7 (Barefury, same clan) that I farmed "non boosted" with BARCH primarily from TH1 to where he is now.
He has lvl 4 barb/arch and does very well in the Gold III range right now. I will farm that account maybe two days a week for a couple hours here and there non boosted and fill his storages up in no time.
I haven't played him in a couple days, but here's the last three attacks from his log:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps86c68968.png

Other than clan wars, I have yet to build a giant or healer on Barefury, because it just slows down my gph. Also, if you go visit him... I can explain.... He's my experiment to see how well I can do on an account without walls. :) You'll also notice that all his gold mines are lvl 10 and in the process of being upgraded to 11 (at TH7)

Suggestions from other players
As I mentioned at the start, this is a work in progress. Therefore, I am reserving this section for suggestions others have made to me in the comments or via PM.

From LordVal: A great time for a high volume of collector raids is directly after longer maintenance windows because everyone in the world has been logged off for at least as long as the maint window.

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Dayuuuum, this Guide is off the chain :eek: ​This Guide is WAY better than mine >_< Awesome Job Coldfury !

You did a good job Cold, I'm sure many people will find this well thought out and formatted guide very helpful.

This guide is just plain awesome. I tried to BAM quite a few times now and always ended up falling back into my old habit of Barch+WB as a TH8, which yields alot gph too. But after reading your guide I think BAM is able to perform even better.
My minions are nearly level 3 now so I'll give it another try then.

Maybe you could add some minimum requirement infos? Something like "barbs/arch 5, minions 3" for a TH8? Or do you think BAM really starts to shine with TH9 and those level 6 troops?


Thx alot,
Ly

i used bam almost my entire time during th8 but best i could get was 3 mil gold per hour unboosted and usually less than 2 mil an hour. how many gems do you spend per day on average and how much would it cost me per month to maintain that 4 mil per hour? i play maybe 4 hours per day.

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Originally Posted by Lycidas

This guide is just plain awesome. I tried to BAM quite a few times now and always ended up falling back into my old habit of Barch+WB as a TH8, which yields alot gph too. But after reading your guide I think BAM is able to perform even better.
My minions are nearly level 3 now so I'll give it another try then.

Maybe you could add some minimum requirement infos? Something like "barbs/arch 5, minions 3" for a TH8? Or do you think BAM really starts to shine with TH9 and those level 6 troops?


Thx alot,
Ly

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I just added another section at the end about minimum requirements. I personally started using BAM at TH8 and rocked my skull walls in about a week. It was back during the 1 gem Christmas boost, and that's when I first learned and fell in love with boosted BAM. I did 20 minions and then 2 rax barb/2 rax archers with rage.

Even at TH7, BAM is by far the best strategy with lvl 1 minions. However, DE is a little harder to come by in optimal farming ranges so it's a little less practical for long term farming.

On my TH7 account, I'm mostly using BARCH with the exact same method described above minus the minions. Because I'm not boosting I will usually throw in 4 wallbreakers to help punch a little deeper. The little extra build time isn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by homeyhomedawg

i used bam almost my entire time during th8 but best i could get was 3 mil gold per hour unboosted and usually less than 2 mil an hour. how many gems do you spend per day on average and how much would it cost me per month to maintain that 4 mil per hour? i play maybe 4 hours per day.

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I usually do one boost session per evening, and maybe two per day on Saturday/Sunday. If I'm boosting everything (6 barracks, heroes, SF it runs me roughly $30/mo. in gems if I buy them in the $20 bags.

Obviously, not everyone wants to spend money on CoC so you can do the exact same thing without boosting, but it just takes 4 times longer. :)

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Also, to add. 4M per hour is kind of the benchmark that I strive for, but it's not always there, and is even somewhat rare at TH10 levels.
For TH8 or TH9, I'd say it's easier to obtain a little more consistently, but make sure you don't get too upset if you can't hit it. Loot is what it is and sometimes it just sucks, no matter what your strategy is.

When CW was launched loot was absolutely horrible for weeks. I could next until the cows came home and due to so many people jumping back on to play there were zero inactive bases and everyone spent all their loot on upgrades. I was lucky to get 1m per hour (boosted) during that time period. :) However, I still optimized my gph for the environment I was farming in to get the "most" I could get.

Great guide OP, really digging the in-depth breakdown :cool:

My upload speed is sucking today. Youtube of 30 minute live raid session is currently at 83%

Can you use bam to farm dark elixir ?

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I usually do one boost session per evening, and maybe two per day on Saturday/Sunday. If I'm boosting everything (6 barracks, heroes, SF it runs me roughly $30/mo. in gems if I buy them in the $20 bags.

Obviously, not everyone wants to spend money on CoC so you can do the exact same thing without boosting, but it just takes 4 times longer. :)

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i probably would boost but sometimes it takes me over 10 minutes just to find a raid. add the raid time and it's basically 3 wasted armies. it would feel like a lot of wasted money.

oh yeah also, i've literally only used lightning my entire 3 months playing this game. level 5 lightning, level 1 rage. is rage better than lightning enough that i should forget about upgrading th9 bam and get my rage up first. 10 days could get my rage to level 4.

Could I do this as a th8 with lvl 5 barbs/arch and lvl 2 minions??

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Can you use bam to farm dark elixir ?

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Yes you can, but I don't feel it's the optimal DE farming strategy. You do have the DE tax for the minions each time you use them (660 DE in my case) so you have to take that into account.

I've got another thread that we're talking about DE farming exclusively and the technique Stitch shared is far superior to BAM for DE/hr. in my opinion.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...are-to-join-me

You can certainly get more attacks per hour with BAM, but in the "premie" range where it really shines the DE haul isn't quite as good. So if you're spending 500 DE to get 700 DE, it's not very profitable.

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Could I do this as a th8 with lvl 5 barbs/arch and lvl 2 minions??

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Absolutely, I added another section to the end discussing this. I first started BAMing at TH8 and farmed my skulls so fast that I had to premie TH9 so I had walls to spend it on.

I can't remember my minion level, but obviously you'll want to bump them up as soon as you can to improve your deep push into bases.

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i probably would boost but sometimes it takes me over 10 minutes just to find a raid. add the raid time and it's basically 3 wasted armies. it would feel like a lot of wasted money.

oh yeah also, i've literally only used lightning my entire 3 months playing this game. level 5 lightning, level 1 rage. is rage better than lightning enough that i should forget about upgrading th9 bam and get my rage up first. 10 days could get my rage to level 4.

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As you probably noticed I just do all rage for my spells. Lightning would be handy on occasion for CC troops, but I pretty much don't care about win/losses so if I hit a base and the CC wrecks me I just move to the next attack.
With the types of premie bases I'm attacking it's somewhat rare that there's even anything in the CC.

Rage is what powers the deep push into a base for storages, so that's why I like having it. I've experimented with heals to try and keep things alive longer, but the minions don't really benefit from it, so I only use rage.

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Absolutely, I added another section to the end discussing this. I first started BAMing at TH8 and farmed my skulls so fast that I had to premie TH9 so I had walls to spend it on.

I can't remember my minion level, but obviously you'll want to bump them up as soon as you can to improve your deep push into bases.

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Cool! Thx for replying so quickly! I know my minions are a little low on lvl but I've really been workin on my barb king for a while and I'm a pretty casual player so de doesn't come in as fast.

It may be absurd, but i am moving to masters in TH9 to farm my walls with loons, do you think that would be efficient?

WOW such a great job on this guide cold! Very informative and I loved the videos so far can't wait to see the big one. I didn't think it would hen possible to get that big storage raid on that base with bam. I had been attacking a bit different when I was using bam usually coming from multiple side but could not have done that. I'm inspired to test out some bam again this week as I can slow down on De because I need my heroes for a CW.

Great job man thank for your time you put into making this.

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It may be absurd, but i am moving to masters in TH9 to farm my walls with loons, do you think that would be efficient?

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This is where I throw in my "it depends" comment.
It is not the most efficient gph strategy for sure, but depending on your playing style it may be the most efficient for you.

Some people can't sit down for two hours and play continuously and prefer to build a slow army for farming. If that's your situation then I think Balloons are awesome for that. (I personally love balloons/minions btw)

I've spent a few days in Masters III and Crystal I as both TH9 and TH10 trying to farm gold with balloons/minions and even boosted I can attack roughly 4 times per hour (maybe 5) so if I rocked 500k gold every single base I'm at best going to do 2M - 2.5M per hour (boosted) with fairly long pauses in between. Obviously 500k gold per attack isn't very practical and when you have that oops failure it really hurts.
The other factor for higher level farming is the defensive losses (especially as a TH9) are much higher. Leaving your TH outside in Masters III is a death wish because you're guaranteeing the guy a victory, so you'll get rocked for max loot almost every time you log off which has to factor into your overall gph stream.

So, from a gph "efficiency" standpoint balloons in masters is not the fastest way to get gold, but if it fits your playing style and you recognize that, there's nothing in the world wrong with doing it.

Weekend before last I got bored, so I jumped up to Masters just to play with my ballons for the weekend. I didn't get any great loot per se', but I sure had a lot of fun. :) I was upgrading all 4 of my AD's (i know, bad idea) so I had some fun times on defense too. lol

Awesome Guide Coldfury!

Awesome guide. I'm more of a lurker on the forums, but I had to chime in here. Amazing guide.

Video is now live at http://youtu.be/7tWHaff8AuY

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This is where I throw in my "it depends" comment.
It is not the most efficient gph strategy for sure, but depending on your playing style it may be the most efficient for you.

Some people can't sit down for two hours and play continuously and prefer to build a slow army for farming. If that's your situation then I think Balloons are awesome for that. (I personally love balloons/minions btw)

I've spent a few days in Masters III and Crystal I as both TH9 and TH10 trying to farm gold with balloons/minions and even boosted I can attack roughly 4 times per hour (maybe 5) so if I rocked 500k gold every single base I'm at best going to do 2M - 2.5M per hour (boosted) with fairly long pauses in between. Obviously 500k gold per attack isn't very practical and when you have that oops failure it really hurts.
The other factor for higher level farming is the defensive losses (especially as a TH9) are much higher. Leaving your TH outside in Masters III is a death wish because you're guaranteeing the guy a victory, so you'll get rocked for max loot almost every time you log off which has to factor into your overall gph stream.

So, from a gph "efficiency" standpoint balloons in masters is not the fastest way to get gold, but if it fits your playing style and you recognize that, there's nothing in the world wrong with doing it.

Weekend before last I got bored, so I jumped up to Masters just to play with my ballons for the weekend. I didn't get any great loot per se', but I sure had a lot of fun. :) I was upgrading all 4 of my AD's (i know, bad idea) so I had some fun times on defense too. lol

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I am going to be boosting every thing and with my army comp i can go 6-7 times an hour. Is 400k+ gold lootable per raid up there?

Awesome guide! It helped a ton, thank you.

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I am going to be boosting every thing and with my army comp i can go 6-7 times an hour. Is 400k+ gold lootable per raid up there?

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The loot is there consistently, but it's really hard to get all of it especially as a TH9.

Once you get halfway through Crystal I, it's pretty much all TH10's with lvl 2/3 IT's set to multi. There's occasional premie bases, but they're more rare the higher you go.
So, you basically get into the mindset of trying to get that 1 star and looking for bases with storages out on the edges that you can get. Most players are better up there, so they'll have their storages spread out as well.

From what I hear as you get higher into Masters and Champions you start hitting the max bases that truly don't need their gold, and those are much less protected so it may be more consistent.

No matter if it's good or bad, I strongly encourage you to go up there and have some fun with your balloons to see for yourself. I always enjoy pushing with mine. :)

If you're planning to do that for your farming, then I'd suggest tracking your gph over several days and make sure you take into account your losses on defense. Then it will be a little easier for you to decide which farming approach is better for you and your playing style.

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Full build time takes 4m 10s boosted (15+ attacks per hour), or 16m 40s regular (~4 attacks per hour) as a TH10. TH9 is crazy fast at 3m41s boosted (16+ attacks per hour), or 14m45s regular (~4 attacks per hour)
I feel that 3 barracks archers and 1 barracks minions is a little stronger, but I really try to emphasize quantity over quality on my army. Switching to 3 rax archers and 1 barb adds approximately 20 seconds to each army build, which over 14-15 attacks in a boosted hour works out to one less attack per hour. So, will I get an additional 150-250k per hour by having a few more archers? I’ve generally found the answer to be no.

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FANTASTIC guide for all the barchers out there!

I've been reaping the benefits of BAM since I first got my minions and have been loving it every since. I know your barracks set up is super quick to re-queue, but it also takes longer to train.

Below is my composition which trains in a phenomenal 12:45min (unboosted):
Each Reg. Barrack: 17 archers / 16 barbs
Each Dark Barrack: 17 minions

Definitely the most in depth guide I've seen since Brandon's DE guide and Sharp's Max TH9 Guide.

Bravo and Bookmarked.

Nice guide Coldfury, I am a avid BAM user myself and know most of the tricks to it, but I certainly picked up some great new things from this guide ;). I like the idea of the 2 min window, but what do you do if after the 4 mins you can't find a base with >100k?

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The loot is there consistently, but it's really hard to get all of it especially as a TH9.

Once you get halfway through Crystal I, it's pretty much all TH10's with lvl 2/3 IT's set to multi. There's occasional premie bases, but they're more rare the higher you go.
So, you basically get into the mindset of trying to get that 1 star and looking for bases with storages out on the edges that you can get. Most players are better up there, so they'll have their storages spread out as well.

From what I hear as you get higher into Masters and Champions you start hitting the max bases that truly don't need their gold, and those are much less protected so it may be more consistent.

No matter if it's good or bad, I strongly encourage you to go up there and have some fun with your balloons to see for yourself. I always enjoy pushing with mine. :)

If you're planning to do that for your farming, then I'd suggest tracking your gph over several days and make sure you take into account your losses on defense. Then it will be a little easier for you to decide which farming approach is better for you and your playing style.

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Thanks! It just that im a little impatient myself cause i tried to BAM in 1900-2000 trophies and i had to press next a lot to find a juicy base. I want like lots of resources in a few nexts when im boosting but guess thats not really possible.

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Nice guide Coldfury, I am a avid BAM user myself and know most of the tricks to it, but I certainly picked up some great new things from this guide ;). I like the idea of the 2 min window, but what do you do if after the 4 mins you can't find a base with >100k?

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Stop playing... Just kidding. Generally i dont have this issue unless my trophies are too low, so I'll grab whatever i can to get some trophies.
this was very common back when CW came out so i just adjusted to 100k+ for first base and then look for 50k+ After a couple minutes. No matter what, you're better off attacking somebody for even 10k at the 4 minute mark to get the win bonus and have an army waiting.

as I've mentioned, it's all about maximizing gph no matter what that max is.

Well done! Looks like you've already helped quite a few people out with this guide.

Great read. I've been barching and while I already do a lot of what you said, I definitely learned a few more things to maximize gph. The 2 minute tip was excellent and I hadn't thought of that before.
Great write up!

These tips also work for me as a th8. I've been farming in the 1700-1900 trophy range, and the loot was great. I was bringing in 1.5-2 million per hour, which is good for me. Now, there is no loot at all. I'm moving to 2000 trophies.

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These tips also work for me as a th8. I've been farming in the 1700-1900 trophy range, and the loot was great. I was bringing in 1.5-2 million per hour, which is good for me. Now, there is no loot at all. I'm moving to 2000 trophies.

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Yeah, loot does dance around at times. As a general rule, when loot is bad its usually better higher up. There are times though when you get to better loot, but it's too hard to get and thats when i start working my way back down.

Oh, how nice with someone that agrees with me.. Loot isnt that bad :)

Very good looking guide! You're doing a good thing for the community!

I am a th8 farming between 1600 and 1900 trophies. I have a near maxed base with just several point defenses and walls left. My problem is whenever i use BAM my dark elixir slowly depletes even as I manage to destroy dark elixir pumps and storages. should i keep certain amounts of minions in dark bax or just spam everything full like i am in the habit of doing (i try to save minions, they are my final wave i deploy)

Wow. You've convinced me to actually give BAM a shot. I've always loved Barch and never really knew how to use BAM so I just didn't. But now that I know, I feel like a moron for not trying it earlier! Awesome guide :)

Very in-depth and helpful! One of the best guides I have seen on the forums!

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FANTASTIC guide for all the barchers out there!

I've been reaping the benefits of BAM since I first got my minions and have been loving it every since. I know your barracks set up is super quick to re-queue, but it also takes longer to train.

Below is my composition which trains in a phenomenal 12:45min (unboosted):
Each Reg. Barrack: 17 archers / 16 barbs
Each Dark Barrack: 17 minions

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Yeah, there are definitely some way's to speed it up a little. I think the "theoretical" fastest would be to queue minions non stop in both dark barracks and either do a split half/half barb/arch similar to what you're doing or like I'm doing. Sometimes when I get in the zone my camps are already full and I hate having to de-queue/re-queue troops in various barracks. I like the mindless top off method, with adding the minions in when necessary. :)

The 30 minions seemed to be a decent balance because they take 2:48 to build 15 in ea. barracks and are plenty to punch into most cores. I mostly use BARCH troops and can sometimes go several attacks in a row without using minions, so leaving the dark barracks queued full time would get a little messy for me. Obviously I could use minions every attack to keep it balanced, so there's nothing at all wrong with rocking an even faster army if you've got the DE to spare. Like I said, it's all about quantity of attacks per hour to increase gph. :)

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I am a th8 farming between 1600 and 1900 trophies. I have a near maxed base with just several point defenses and walls left. My problem is whenever i use BAM my dark elixir slowly depletes even as I manage to destroy dark elixir pumps and storages. should i keep certain amounts of minions in dark bax or just spam everything full like i am in the habit of doing (i try to save minions, they are my final wave i deploy)

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My preference is to only use minions if I have to. I guess it goes back to my days of "conserving" DE, and also that many of the attacks don't really require them.

If you're struggling to maintain DE at your trophy range (and it's your sweet spot) I'd go into a little more of a conserve mode to only use them as needed. It's been quite a while, but I remember I was rocking 20 minions with my TH8 army and I recall DE being tight, but I'm pretty sure I maintained it fairly easy.

With 200 troop spaces it can be a little trickier to always hit the 50% without using the minions, but it's very doable.

This is an amazing guide! I appreciate how much work you put into it just to help out other clashers. I will definitely be giving this a shot and I predict that my GPH will increase significantly. Thanks! :)

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This is an amazing guide! I appreciate how much work you put into it just to help out other clashers. I will definitely be giving this a shot and I predict that my GPH will increase significantly. Thanks! :)

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Well, I did have to wait until I got my IT's up to lvl 2 before I posted. Can't have any of you using this against me.
Also remember, if you run into Coldfury base, just grab the TH and nothing more. <wink wink>

I watch the forums pretty regularly and you all know there are so many people who struggle with farming and I've tried several times to help, but it always boils down to a "you're not really farming that much" or "I clicked next 150 times and saw nothing" type exchange where nobody believes the farmers. So, I figured the best way to help was to be a little more thorough with a guide and give real examples.
I will put some more 30 minute raid sessions up as I make them. (and maybe a few crazy good singles)

I really appreciate all the kind words from everyone.

Cold

best guide I've seen on farming Gold !

I have been using BAM for a long time, but I am only doing collector raids non boosted.

As a max TH9 with 440m GG, I can confirm that it is possible to do collector raids only :)

little tweak necessary: add goblins & giants in the army. giants = same training time as barbs. goblins a little longer, but barbs/archers are bad at collector raids.

idea:
* mines outside the walls: drop 1 giant. drop 6 goblins. instantly destroy the 2-3 mines around.
why is it better than bam ? defenses will *lock* on the giant. if using barbs, they will kill 1-2 barbs, and then start killing the goblins.
* mines inside 1st layer of walls: drop 1 giant. drop 5 archers on the mine.
why is it better than bam ? mortar/wiz towers lock on the giant, and your archers are safe :)


My TH upgrade is almost done. I'll be TH10 in 8 hours. I will now have to raid storages as I expect collector raids to be scarce, so thanks for this guide :)

Very well done! This will help me, especially when 1 gem boost comes around again...*HINT* *HINT* Supercell *HINT* *HINT* ;)

Husker i would switch up your base if i was you. http://imgur.com/bnYT6qb

My son shared this replay right when I got home from work. He hasn't even read my guide, but shows a great example of how to get max loot on the fewest troops possible with a collector raid. He's TH8 and been farming in the 1600-1700 trophy range (just hit TH9 shortly after this video). I haven't looked at the actual numbers, but judging by the number of these he's been posting the past several days I think he's doubling me on gph lately. lol

http://youtu.be/68DoJLrouPc

Why did i call you husker....... ♥♥♥♥ sorry cold

Do u use 2 bara full of mins or just one?

I loved reading this guide. You did a great job, and I can tell a lot of effort went into this. I just have one question; I boost my barracks once a day usually, but lately I've not been boosting because my storages are always full. I am nearly done with TH8 and am finishing up teslas and I am trying to keep a builder free to finish my last 100 walls, which will not take very long at all, but I always have to put a builder on my Barbarian King (going to 9) and upgrading Dark Barracks (going to 3 and one is at 2). I was just wondering if I should be patient and finish TH8 or go ahead and start TH9. Once again, I loved the guide!

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Husker i would switch up your base if i was you. http://imgur.com/bnYT6qb

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lol, too bad your app it doesn't cover the hidden defenses/bombs CC and such.

Also, big time no thanks on switching the base up because in the real game this one has been working really well for me so far.

I'm not saying it can't be beat because it absolutely can by a good attacker, but the vast majority of attacks I see are hogs or dragons and those have a really rough time.

If anyone's curious about my goofy base layout, I did a quick video on it a few weeks back. ;-)

http://youtu.be/LoU_JUw1Kvo

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Why did i call you husker....... ♥♥♥♥ sorry cold

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lol, hey most people in the state of Nebraska respond to that so I knew who you were talking to. :)

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Do u use 2 bara full of mins or just one?

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I only queue minions as needed after each attack. So, if I use 10 minions on the prior attack I queue 5/5. If I use them all I queue 15/15.

Sometimes I'll go long stretches without using them, so that's why I don't queue them full time.

Lol your welcome. I highly sugest you change it to include a little more in ur center. If i can do this well with just a full out barch army...think what i could do with gowipe. Anyways dont juge me for useig it. Im not hurting anyone in any way for useing it. But then again i see were u might think im the worst person ever. I used to think that useing this was for ♥♥♥♥♥ing high level scum. I have no idea how it made people drop troops and was shocked to see people blame the app. Then again do we really know what happend:) good luck to you in ur farming journey

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I loved reading this guide. You did a great job, and I can tell a lot of effort went into this. I just have one question; I boost my barracks once a day usually, but lately I've not been boosting because my storages are always full. I am nearly done with TH8 and am finishing up teslas and I am trying to keep a builder free to finish my last 100 walls, which will not take very long at all, but I always have to put a builder on my Barbarian King (going to 9) and upgrading Dark Barracks (going to 3 and one is at 2). I was just wondering if I should be patient and finish TH8 or go ahead and start TH9. Once again, I loved the guide!

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So, there's really no right answer to this question and as I'm sure you know there are a lot of different opinions.
My personal opinion is that it drives me crazy to have idle builders as well as having nothing to spend my excess gold on. So, I went TH9 "very early" because my skull wall were finished long before my defenses, which isn't necessarily your situation yet. I will say that once you hit TH9, you will be very distracted with a ton of elixir upgrades (camps/labs/drills/etc.) that whatever defenses you have left will be waiting a long time to get finished.
You'll also be opened up to friendly visits from your neighborhood TH10 which aren't always pleasant for a new TH9, but if you have a good farm base layout with TH outside, those can be mitigated.

I'm sure I'm probably not helping much because the real answer is that you'll be just fine if you stay where you are and you'll be just fine if you move up to TH9. I personally feel that TH9 is the highest gph TH in the game. The 220 troops farming on TH10/TH9/TH8 is insane at times. :)

So, if you're bored and want to have some new stuff, shoot for TH9. If you want to finish what you have left, then I'd stick around TH8. You will have no problem farming gold at TH8 or TH9, so it's your choice really.

The only "non-negotiable" for me to go to the next TH level is to ensure you have maxed your camps and farming troops. you can have all lvl 1 defenses at TH10 and farm just fine if you have max lvl troops and camps. Sure, you'll get rocked on D, but that's only once or twice a day compared to 30-40 attacks on offense (if boosting)

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Lol your welcome. I highly sugest you change it to include a little more in ur center. If i can do this well with just a full out barch army...think what i could do with gowipe. Anyways dont juge me for useig it. Im not hurting anyone in any way for useing it. But then again i see were u might think im the worst person ever. I used to think that useing this was for ♥♥♥♥♥ing high level scum. I have no idea how it made people drop troops and was shocked to see people blame the app. Then again do we really know what happend:) good luck to you in ur farming journey

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I don't mind at all and no I don't think anything bad about you. Actually I wish we could "legitimately" test our designs against various armies, but that would take away some of the fun of learning and experimenting I guess.

I haven't spent a ton of time up in Masters, so I've only had one maxed GoWiPe and one GoWiWi's (lvl 4 golems) and they did horrible in both attacks. The problem is the ai only allows troops to go across the gap to the core if you've cleared out all buildings in both directions to allow the center buildings to be the "next closest". So, they just wander around the circle harmlessly while the IT's and xbows chew everyone up.

Don't read me wrong, I know it can be beat by a skilled player, but a player has to spam a whole side typically to get in. Your BARCH attack does that I'm sure, but I am truly curious how it would do with traps, bombs, etc in play.
I've had several BARCH attacks and they've done worse than anything I've ever seen. The get smoked very quickly.

If you go watch some of Stitches GoWiPe video's I think I could have max TH10 defenses in any "popular" defensive design and I have no chance of preventing a 2 star. At least with my "ai" exploiting layout the attacker has to actually know what they're doing in addition to spamming max troops. :)

If you watch that video, you'll see a few of my defenses, but more importantly you'll see that with the frequency of TH snipes my base layout is irrelevant for the most part when it comes to farming.

Good hunting and thanks for the advice. I'm sure I'll likely have to adjust my layout once I start seriously trophy pushing.

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So, there's really no right answer to this question and as I'm sure you know there are a lot of different opinions.
My personal opinion is that it drives me crazy to have idle builders as well as having nothing to spend my excess gold on. So, I went TH9 "very early" because my skull wall were finished long before my defenses, which isn't necessarily your situation yet. I will say that once you hit TH9, you will be very distracted with a ton of elixir upgrades (camps/labs/drills/etc.) that whatever defenses you have left will be waiting a long time to get finished.
You'll also be opened up to friendly visits from your neighborhood TH10 which aren't always pleasant for a new TH9, but if you have a good farm base layout with TH outside, those can be mitigated.

I'm sure I'm probably not helping much because the real answer is that you'll be just fine if you stay where you are and you'll be just fine if you move up to TH9. I personally feel that TH9 is the highest gph TH in the game. The 220 troops farming on TH10/TH9/TH8 is insane at times. :)

So, if you're bored and want to have some new stuff, shoot for TH9. If you want to finish what you have left, then I'd stick around TH8. You will have no problem farming gold at TH8 or TH9, so it's your choice really.

The only "non-negotiable" for me to go to the next TH level is to ensure you have maxed your camps and farming troops. you can have all lvl 1 defenses at TH10 and farm just fine if you have max lvl troops and camps. Sure, you'll get rocked on D, but that's only once or twice a day compared to 30-40 attacks on offense (if boosting)

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Thanks for the response man. I think I will go ahead and finish teslas down here. My walls will be done before they finish I'm sure.

What clan are u in again?

im new to th10, struggling with loot. dont find anything from gold 2 to crystal 2..i feel so lost.....searching for 300k and still nothing :(

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im new to th10, struggling with loot. dont find anything from gold 2 to crystal 2..i feel so lost.....searching for 300k and still nothing :(

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You've come to the right place. :)

Make sure you read and understand the "trophy range to farm in" and the "nexting and base selection" sections.
There is obviously loot out there, it's just a matter of finding the best place to get the most loot that you can get to.

Any one of us can go up to Crystal II or I and above and see huge loot on practically every other base, but it's a lot more challenging to get to so it requires a longer build army.
We can also drop down to Gold II or III as a TH10 and practically 100% every other base we see with BAM, but there's no loot to be found because of the loot penalty.
So, it's about finding that balanced zone that's the best of both worlds. Enough loot to keep going, but easy enough to get to with a fast build army.

The other part is to level set your expectations to what's being offered. I use a guide of searching for a 200k+ base for 2 minutes because that's what I consider a really good base. I give myself 2 minutes because I'm going to either search for 2 minutes or sit and wait for my next army for 2 minutes so might as well use the time to increase my chances of hitting a big one. Some nights I almost never see a 200k base and hit 100k - 150k bases for two hours straight and other nights I see nothing but 200k+ bases.
I still feel good about my farming no matter what the loot is doing because I know I've optimized my gph as much as I can for that particular evening. Some evening's it's insane and loot is everywhere, but other nights it's really low.

The important thing is to recognize it and adapt. If you are playing during a crappy loot night and still planning to only hit a 200k base, you can next 500 times and never find one or you can hit a 100k base every 4 minutes and still make steady gains.

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You've come to the right place. :)

Make sure you read and understand the "trophy range to farm in" and the "nexting and base selection" sections.
There is obviously loot out there, it's just a matter of finding the best place to get the most loot that you can get to.

Any one of us can go up to Crystal II or I and above and see huge loot on practically every other base, but it's a lot more challenging to get to so it requires a longer build army.
We can also drop down to Gold II or III as a TH10 and practically 100% every other base we see with BAM, but there's no loot to be found because of the loot penalty.
So, it's about finding that balanced zone that's the best of both worlds. Enough loot to keep going, but easy enough to get to with a fast build army.

The other part is to level set your expectations to what's being offered. I use a guide of searching for a 200k+ base for 2 minutes because that's what I consider a really good base. I give myself 2 minutes because I'm going to either search for 2 minutes or sit and wait for my next army for 2 minutes so might as well use the time to increase my chances of hitting a big one. Some nights I almost never see a 200k base and hit 100k - 150k bases for two hours straight and other nights I see nothing but 200k+ bases.
I still feel good about my farming no matter what the loot is doing because I know I've optimized my gph as much as I can for that particular evening. Some evening's it's insane and loot is everywhere, but other nights it's really low.

The important thing is to recognize it and adapt. If you are playing during a crappy loot night and still planning to only hit a 200k base, you can next 500 times and never find one or you can hit a 100k base every 4 minutes and still make steady gains.

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lol, yeah i wish i would find some 150k bases..but my average is like 30 to 70k max all the time..currently in C3 at 2004trophies..searched another 30minutes..so bad atm

What trophy range is good for a town hall 8. I have level 4 rage and level 2 minions. Barbs and archers are 5. I'll be taking minions to 3 next.

Really great guide! Thanks for taking the time to write it.

I will consider upgrading my 7th gold mine a little earlier...

One suggestion for your consideration:
Did you ever test raiding in different time zones? I have the perception that certain times of the day are better than others.
And weekdays are better than weekends in my mind.

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Really great guide! Thanks for taking the time to write it.

I will consider upgrading my 7th gold mine a little earlier...

One suggestion for your consideration:
Did you ever test raiding in different time zones? I have the perception that certain times of the day are better than others.
And weekdays are better than weekends in my mind.

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Yes, i did. Im a good farmer till i upgraded to th 10..im at 1.8b GG and now no more loot..yeah weekends are bad as it seem..

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What trophy range is good for a town hall 8. I have level 4 rage and level 2 minions. Barbs and archers are 5. I'll be taking minions to 3 next.

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I'm sure it's a moving target, but my son who I posted the CCLE video a page or so back of was crushing it in the 1600 range the past couple weeks.
He'd be sitting in the living room across form me searching for DE because he was maxed on Gold/Elixir and would yell out every time he saw a collector raid. One time he saw a bunch of them in a row with over 200k gold. Obviously that's not normal, but it seems to be pretty hot in that zone the last week or so.

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lol, yeah i wish i would find some 150k bases..but my average is like 30 to 70k max all the time..currently in C3 at 2004trophies..searched another 30minutes..so bad atm

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I find that really surprising. You can see the kind of bases I've been hitting because all of the video's I've posted in this thread were within the last week. I think the BAM one is the oldest from a week ago.

When I do find a really bad rut, I try to work my way out of it by dropping or raising trophy's. It does happen, but they don't stick around forever.

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I find that really surprising. You can see the kind of bases I've been hitting because all of the video's I've posted in this thread were within the last week. I think the BAM one is the oldest from a week ago.

When I do find a really bad rut, I try to work my way out of it by dropping or raising trophy's. It does happen, but they don't stick around forever.

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For me, its usually no loot in the morning and loot bonanza in the evening.

For example on monday, I made zip in the morning, but 3m gold after 4pm of my time.

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For me, its usually no loot in the morning and loot bonanza in the evening.

For example on monday, I made zip in the morning, but 3m gold after 4pm of my time.

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Which time zone are you in? For me between 9 and 11 AM Central European seems to work best

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Really great guide! Thanks for taking the time to write it.

Did you ever test raiding in different time zones? I have the perception that certain times of the day are better than others.
And weekdays are better than weekends in my mind.

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So, I have absolutely tried to find the "ideal" times to farm and I've never really found anything to be consistent with days or times. I pretty regularly do a 2 hour boost session on Saturday mornings between 7:00-9:00 (CST) and it's the "most consistent" good raiding time for me, but even it goes flat at times.

Another thing I've noticed that's fairly consistent is how player activity levels effects our gph. SuperCell has acknowledged that they never remove inactive bases from the game, but they do prioritize active players to the head of the line for match ups. This makes total sense because as much as I'd love having non stop abandoned bases, it would also be really weird to never have to deal with CC or bombs. It would make it "too easy".

My oldest son played for a while up to TH9 but doesn't anymore. I had him log into his base (still installed on his phone) that he hadn't used in months and sure enough it was sitting with pegged lvl 11 mines, but his attack log showed the last attack from over a month ago and he had no shield. Within seconds of him logging off his base got attacked right away because he was "active" again and moved to the front of the queue.

So, if there happens to be a big holiday where everyone is home for the week, or SC just releases a big upgrade that drives player participation up it has a huge effect on loot, most notably on the collector raids. In other words there are enough "active" players in queue that we don't get presented with the more "inactive" players with full collectors.

ClanWars was the best example of this because participation went through the roof and farming was HORRIBLE!!!. I spent a two hour boost session the day after CW came out and farmed a total of 1m gold in two hours boosted! It was the worst I've ever done since I started the game.

Then in contrast the week or two leading up to clanwars something happened where the inactives were everywhere. I would hit 300k-400k bases back to back to back almost an entire boost session. During the same time I went almost 3 days with my TH outside my base and never got attacked or a shield. It was surreal for farming, but also a little creepy that I never got attacked.

I have this vision in my head of Marika sitting at SuperCell with a big dial on her desk to adjust the percentages of inactives that get mixed in and she accidentally turned it too far for a week. :)

The moral of the story is to recognize what loot is doing and react accordingly. The week after CW was released I pretty much stopped BAM farming completely and switched over to balloons and did a push into masters because it was better than anything I could find down lower. After a couple weeks things started calming down some, but there was a loot hangover for a good month or more after CW for sure.

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I'm sure it's a moving target, but my son who I posted the CCLE video a page or so back of was crushing it in the 1600 range the past couple weeks.
He'd be sitting in the living room across form me searching for DE because he was maxed on Gold/Elixir and would yell out every time he saw a collector raid. One time he saw a bunch of them in a row with over 200k gold. Obviously that's not normal, but it seems to be pretty hot in that zone the last week or so.

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So he is the one taking all my loot bases!

Your guide was so good you made me create an account just to post here. Greatstuff

I loved the detail of your guide Cold...

I was wondering, I am a fully maxed TH9 besides walls - almost finished with legos - and I plan on staying here a bit to level up my heroes more. Will your base layout work for a TH9 or do you think it will fail without the IT's and the extra xbow?

Thanks again!

Hey cold awesome guide:)

I don't know if you mentioned it already but I would like to know how much gold you make per 2 hour sesh (with all 4 racks boosted). I seem to only make 3.5-4.5 mil gold every 2 hours. Do you think that 3.5-4.5 mil is a decent amount or should it be higher?

What an awesome guide. Just wanted to say it :)

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Thanks, you're making me blush. :o

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I loved the detail of your guide Cold...

I was wondering, I am a fully maxed TH9 besides walls - almost finished with legos - and I plan on staying here a bit to level up my heroes more. Will your base layout work for a TH9 or do you think it will fail without the IT's and the extra xbow?

Thanks again!

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I did use an almost identical wall layout at TH9 and just threw an AT in the center for a little extra support. "Inkhands" is in my clan and is using essentially the same layout as I did at TH9.

I tried several TH9 layouts that were "very popular" and used by a lot of people, but no matter what I got 2 and 3 starred every single time I'd try moving up in trophy's (Crystal I/Masters III). So, I figured I better start getting into the AI exploiting business because I just didn't (and still don't) have the defensive firepower to take on a high level attack.

My base is really nothing more than any other "ringus" style base, but ringus provides no value at all in Dragon attacks. With mine the double wide moat keeps dragons at bay in addition to all the other benefits of a ringus base.
I spent about a week in Masters III with my TH in the center and didn't have a single 2 star loss at TH9. My walls were mostly lego's so that helped a bunch, but it's just w♥♥♥♥y enough that people don't know how to attack it so it "seems" to work better than most standard bases. To me a 1 star loss as a TH9 in Masters is a big time win. :)

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Hey cold awesome guide:)

I don't know if you mentioned it already but I would like to know how much gold you make per 2 hour sesh (with all 4 racks boosted). I seem to only make 3.5-4.5 mil gold every 2 hours. Do you think that 3.5-4.5 mil is a decent amount or should it be higher?

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I kind of touched on it in the tutorial, but it's honestly all over the place and varies greatly depending on the number of collector bases that are available as well as general "base luck". Obviously TH level/loot penalty contributes as well, so a TH9 is almost always going to make more because the odds of hitting a juicy TH10/TH9/TH8 are better than just finding a juicy TH10/TH9.

The 30 minute video I posted was from Tuesday evening (central US) and you can see that I was right at 1.5M in a little over 30 minutes with a decent number of collector raids. I hit a couple 300+ ones after I stopped recording, but overall I hit right at 3M per hour that night.

Last night I jumped on at the same time in the same trophy range and loot was pretty bad for the first 30 minutes. I did less than 1M the first 30 minutes and then it picked up a little the second 30 minutes where I finished around 2.5M overall for the first hour. If it wouldn't have picked up I could have been as low as 2M for the hour boosted.

To contrast both of those, last week on Thursday night it was "collectorfest 2014" going on around the 2050 trophy range and I was right around the 4M per hour range.

From my experience as a TH10 I consider 2.5 - 3 mil in 1 hour to be fairly normal and when I get into the 3.5M+ per hour range I consider that to be a pretty good farming night.
When it gets into the sub 2M per hour range I consider it to be a pretty "crappy" loot night.

The important thing is to simply optimize your trophy ranges and make sure you're nexting the full 2 minutes when loot is down to ensure you're increasing your odds of getting the good bases as much as possible. After 20-30 minutes I usually have a pretty good feel for how the night is going to go and just roll with it. Sometimes it's just bad and it doesn't matter what you do, sometimes it's decent, and sometimes it's off the hook awesome. Recognizing this really helps reduce the frustration factor. It also helps you be content with just hitting 100k bases all night when it's bad vs. hitting next 500 times trying to find that 200k base that never materializes.

I'm switching between farming DE (discussed in this thread) and farming Gold with BAM, so a lot of times when I'm seeing a crappy gold night I just switch to my DE farming army and do that instead. DE seems to be fairly consistent across most nights, so it's a good fallback. Then when gold is good I'll just rock BAM until my gold is full and then switch to DE.

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Thank you for the response! I checked out Inkhand's base - wanna try it but not sure about tesla and trap placement. I could guess - or is it like your base now? Thinking the teslas are near the builder's huts in the corners and double giant bombs are in between WT and mortar on the North side and AT and Cannon on the South.

Thanks again for the guide!

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Thank you for the response! I checked out Inkhand's base - wanna try it but not sure about tesla and trap placement. I could guess - or is it like your base now? Thinking the teslas are near the builder's huts in the corners and double giant bombs are in between WT and mortar on the North side and AT and Cannon on the South.

Thanks again for the guide!

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Here's a screenshot of his. with everything.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps4c25e1c1.png

I ran very similar to that for several months and then somebody posted this video (not mine) on the forums that made me rearrange my base to more of an "anti-lure" mortars/teslas in the corner layout which I found fascinating (and funny).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AipgJ57gj4o#t=11

So, I tweaked my base to this setup right before I hit TH10, but didn't really get to use it much. It's the basis for my current TH10 layout though and it's a lot of fun watching people try to lure my CC. :)
FuryGoRound - TH9 (Trophy/CW Layout)

Here's what I'm currently using for my farming and CW bases at TH10.
FuryGoRound - TH10 (Farming Layout)
FuryGoRound - TH10 (Trophy/CW Layout)

When I get my defenses to max TH9 level in the next few weeks I plan to do a Champions run to see how this layout stacks up to some stiffer competition.
I feel that no matter what we do on defense if a skilled player comes to town with a full GoWiPe style army there's not really anything any base layout can do. So, I really focus on trying to prevent the average players from getting that second star. Most attacks are people just spamming balloons, dragons, hogs or giants and this base just eats those up.
The attacks that do have some success are the ones who recognize that it's a Ringus style base and methodically take out a full side of defenses first and then release their hogs/loons to the core. They still have to bring a fair amount of spells to knock it down, but it's certainly doable. The good news is that very few players have that kind of army in our farming ranges, so this layout seems to do pretty well in ensuring I only get TH snipes every time.

Great! Thank you for another detailed response and the screenshot. Hope the Champion run goes well!
btw that video was hilarious! I am going to try that myself.

My shield was about to run out so I figured I'd do a quick attack at work a few minutes ago.

I had 5 rage and BK up, so I was feeling a little brave. I normally won't mess with IT's and I would have likely skipped this guy on a normal farming night. It does show how strong BAM can be when you throw in some rage spells and a Dragon though (thanks Inkhands for the dragon) :)

Enjoy

http://youtu.be/pkRPlVbM5O4

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Great! Thank you for another detailed response and the screenshot. Hope the Champion run goes well!
btw that video was hilarious! I am going to try that myself.

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Inkhands shared a defense earlier this morning that he gave me permission to post.
I think you'll like it.
It's amazing how many people do this with Hogs and what's better is that it never gets old. :)

http://youtu.be/BYgWefq5Ruk

Wow! Nice vids!! I just watched the collector raid on page 5 i think and I was hangin around in that same range and it took me about 50-60 searches to find 100K+ loot! Sometimes there would be an occasional 150+K raid but that was about it. Did he just look for a long time or did come up like right away?!? Well, anyway my point is i didn't find anything like that in the 2-3 days i was at ~1600-1640 trophies. Was i too low in that range or was i just having some bad luck?? Anyway nice videos btw!

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Inkhands shared a defense earlier this morning that he gave me permission to post.
I think you'll like it.
It's amazing how many people do this with Hogs and what's better is that it never gets old. :)

http://youtu.be/BYgWefq5Ruk

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That was a revenge too, poor fella.

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Wow! Nice vids!! I just watched the collector raid on page 5 i think and I was hangin around in that same range and it took me about 50-60 searches to find 100K+ loot! Sometimes there would be an occasional 150+K raid but that was about it. Did he just look for a long time or did come up like right away?!? Well, anyway my point is i didn't find anything like that in the 2-3 days i was at ~1600-1640 trophies. Was i too low in that range or was i just having some bad luck?? Anyway nice videos btw!

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Pretty sure the base came up right away, but I don't recall specifically.
Last night my tablet dinged to let me know that Barefury's (TH7) shield was about to run out so I figured I'd do a quick BARCH attack on him.
He's only at 1340 trophies and the first base he was presented with was a premie TH9 that had full collectors and was showing 333k/385k. I got all of it. There's no chance I'm going to be farming down in the 1300 range with my TH10, so sometimes it is just crazy weird luck.

Loot is always a moving target and I think that's why people get so frustrated at times. You can post on the forums asking where to get loot as a TH8 and I can post a video of insane loot at 1650 and then you go there and it's horrible.
That's why I try to focus on optimizing my efficiency as best I can with whatever loot is being offered for the day/time. If I'm in a zone that's just bad I'll look at TH's being presented to me to see if they're at or one low below my level and adjust accordingly.

There's times when I"m getting all TH9 and TH10 bases presented to me but they're only showing 20-30k gold over and over. So, this isn't a loot penalty problem it's more of a "zone" problem in that there's a lot of players in this range that are spending their gold for whatever reason. So, I'll still move up or down in trophy's to see if 50-100 trophy's up or down is better. It takes time and it's not a perfect science for sure.
I remember as a TH9 I would go anywhere from 1500 all the way to 1900 at times looking for that "sweet spot"

Absolutely one of the most in-depth, comprehensive and well organized guides in the Clash of Clans community. Fantastic work here

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http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps4c25e1c1.png

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I just wanted to add that I have my BK in the outer ring right now while he's upgrading (same with queen) and pull in that bottom AT into the core (the one that's outside the base) if I have both heroes upgrading. I don't ever put any defensive units in the 2nd level of the ring where all the storages/collectors are, as that trips the AI to seek out the core defenses after they take them out. If I have both heroes up and I end up with extra defensive buildings I'll usually put them on the bottom side, as that is where I get most of the attacks from anyway.

When everybody is up and running I have the BK and AQ on opposite sides of the DE storage and CC/AT on the other sides, with xbows and ADs staying put, and that elixir storage replacing the BK altar in the ring. If I'm upgrading an AD I make sure it's always one of the ones in the ring and not the core. Keeping the core stocked with the strongest buildings makes it really hard for anyone to pass through with balloonion/dragon and prevents the 3 star against hogs/giants if they wipe out the perimeter buildings.

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I just wanted to add that I have my BK in the outer ring right now while he's upgrading (same with queen) and pull in that bottom AT into the core (the one that's outside the base) if I have both heroes upgrading. I don't ever put any defensive units in the 2nd level of the ring where all the storages/collectors are, as that trips the AI to seek out the core defenses after they take them out. If I have both heroes up and I end up with extra defensive buildings I'll usually put them on the bottom side, as that is where I get most of the attacks from anyway.

When everybody is up and running I have the BK and AQ on opposite sides of the DE storage and CC/AT on the other sides, with xbows and ADs staying put, and that elixir storage replacing the BK altar in the ring. If I'm upgrading an AD I make sure it's always one of the ones in the ring and not the core. Keeping the core stocked with the strongest buildings makes it really hard for anyone to pass through with balloonion/dragon and prevents the 3 star against hogs/giants if they wipe out the perimeter buildings.

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I got this base up and running - no upgrades to do except BK and AQ so that's not a problem. I WAS wondering about the outer AD's though...they are two squares from the outer wall and one space from the moat, does that count as being in the "2nd level of the ring where all the storages/collectors are?" I also put the extra AT in the center core (2 total) with CC in center - do you know if that will affect anything in the negative?

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Just registered to thank you for this guide!!! I am using barb and arch lvl 5 and minions lvl 2 at th8 and in my first try got 3m in two hours, which is at least double my usual rate. I especially appreciate the section on knowing where the gold is. I've read a lot about farming but this really set it out with clarity and in a way that made sense to me. So well done. My next upgrade will be boosting the minions to take it to the next step.

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I got this base up and running - no upgrades to do except BK and AQ so that's not a problem. I WAS wondering about the outer AD's though...they are two squares from the outer wall and one space from the moat, does that count as being in the "2nd level of the ring where all the storages/collectors are?" I also put the extra AT in the center core (2 total) with CC in center - do you know if that will affect anything in the negative?

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When I first set up the base I was leery about the setback on the AD as well... that is, until I got attacked with balloons-it buys the AD a few more seconds to shoot down the bad guys before they move on and target the AD. It doesn't cause hogs/giants to get pulled to the core because the defensive buildings in the corners are still the closest. The way to attack this base is to drop hogs on two corners of the same side, let them work their way to the middle, then drop a second group who will go for the core because the outer defenses on the other sides are now too far away. I got 3-starred on my war base with a max TH10 army by a very skilled player doing just that.

Having the CC dead center is sweet and makes it truly un-lurable except with balloons and hogs. When you do that you have to offset the DE to one side and you will start to see people coming in heavy handed on that side to get there if you have enough worth stealing. When I realized that I decided to centralize the DE instead and pulled the CC in 1 square closer to the center so the trigger radius was within the walls. In non-lightning zap attacks I have lost 896 DE in my entire defense log going back almost 5 days, and I am usually showing >1k to attackers

I just got attacked by this army about an hour ago: 42 lvl 5 hogs, 8 lvl 6 archers, 13 lvl 6 wizards, 5 lvl 6 heal spells, BK lvl 8, AQ lvl 6. Guy destroyed 44% and got 79,554 gold and 71,073 elixir, never breached the core. On defense I had 30 archers in the CC levels 4 through 6 and a lvl 7 AQ. I guess he didn't see the exposed town hall because I got 23 trophies out of the deal!

sweet, so 2 AT's in the center is good then? nice defense log btw. so you leave your AQ awake to defend? I usually let mine sleep but maybe when I get enough DE in there again I will try leaving her on guard since she will be harder to lure. I used Coldfury's TH10 tesla placement though as you may have seen on the screenshot. Thanks for the advice on this base bro! Unfortunately my clan is slow on donating enough archers so I usually end up with giants :(

One extremely well-written guide.
Doesn't affect me much because I already do this, but I still read the entire guide and watched the 35 minute video. :)
Hope my loot stays just the same and other farmers get lots of it too:D

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Just registered to thank you for this guide!!! I am using barb and arch lvl 5 and minions lvl 2 at th8 and in my first try got 3m in two hours, which is at least double my usual rate. I especially appreciate the section on knowing where the gold is. I've read a lot about farming but this really set it out with clarity and in a way that made sense to me. So well done. My next upgrade will be boosting the minions to take it to the next step.

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Thanks for the feedback. My whole goal was to help players farm more efficiently so I'm glad to hear it's helping you. :)

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sweet, so 2 AT's in the center is good then? nice defense log btw. so you leave your AQ awake to defend? I usually let mine sleep but maybe when I get enough DE in there again I will try leaving her on guard since she will be harder to lure. I used Coldfury's TH10 tesla placement though as you may have seen on the screenshot. Thanks for the advice on this base bro! Unfortunately my clan is slow on donating enough archers so I usually end up with giants :(

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Yep I like the ATs in the core due to their superior range and anti-air capability. I love the anti-lure tesla placement. I haven't done it yet because everywhere you could hang an archer for luring is already covered with the mortars and ATs, something that guy in the defense log learned a little too late I'm afraid. Once everybody gets killed, though, the other 3 teslas become a bit of a non-factor in defending the base. I leave both my heroes on guard for defense and if they get knocked out I just steal a few gems from Coldfury to get them back up to full strength ;-)

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One extremely well-written guide.
Doesn't affect me much because I already do this, but I still read the entire guide and watched the 35 minute video. :)
Hope my loot stays just the same and other farmers get lots of it too:D

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I think Inkhands is still mad at me for letting the word out. He's concerned that all these new BAM'ers are going to take his loot. :)

Marika, if you're watching can you please turn the dial up for the weekend so everyone can get lots of collector bases. :)

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I think Inkhands is still mad at me for letting the word out. He's concerned that all these new BAM'ers are going to take his loot. :)

Marika, if you're watching can you please turn the dial up for the weekend so everyone can get lots of collector bases. :)

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Definitely, I have a stay-at-home weekend for the first time in awhile and would like it to be productive. :)

A very lot of thanks !!!!

Very grateful for this impressive tutorial !

I'm a french farmer TH9, level 120 with more than 1 billion gold stolen and despite this, I learned a lot here ! More than any people since a moment !

I'll visit u in your clan this WE for personnal thanking u.

I also translated your incredible tutorial on french CoC forum here.

GG

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A very lot of thanks !!!!

Very grateful for this impressive tutorial !

I'm a french farmer TH9, level 120 with more than 1 billion gold stolen and despite this, I learned a lot here ! More than any people since a moment !

I'll visit u in your clan this WE for personnal thanking u.

I also translated your incredible tutorial on french CoC forum here.

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Wow, thanks for translating it. Glad it helped.

Bump, TH10s need to see this.
Also, sometimes there are loot droughts. There wasn't much loot for most of today from 1950-2050. I saw good raids all the way down at 1700 and as high as 2150. Just about following the loot fluctuation:cool: