How to fix trading, without adding trading in game

I am guessing the price limit on items is an attempt to prevent lower to mid range level players from being gated from content. The problem with that is that those same people are hindered by these price limits in their advancement. Sometimes a player will facilitate this by spending diamonds on tom and selling rings on the market for coins. I doubt however this was an intended purpose.

This is however why we rarely see anything beyond wheat, corn, wool, shirts, hats, bacon, eggs, and the crafted eggs and bacon in the paper. If there were no price limits, we would see mid level players putting more cheese up. We would see more bems and sems as well. The simple fact is the max price limits do not accurately reflect the relative worth or demand. It is because of this that people look to trade items to get what they want. The high level players, having gone months with no new content, want to cap that bnb and want to do it now. Instead of sitting on that million coins thathigh level player can buy that high demand tem (paint or map).

there is no risk of pricing mid level players out of the tem market on the paper because, quick frankly, there is no tem market on the paper now. All the expansion items shouldn't be limited to getting on the paper by people that dont know any better.

i like this game because it is for the most part an economic sandbox game. There are ways to get around the limitations that make hay day not have a free market but they aren't supported by sc. Removing or adjusting price caps periodically would do it.

I really like this idea. Maybe they could do an event every so often where you can charge what you like at your rss or an event where the max prices are doubled. I bet a lot of people would be selling hard to get items as no one would buy things like bacon and eggs. People will buy these hard to find items no matter what the price. It would be a great way to spice up the rss a bit and help people generate some coins. You should post this in the ideas section.

There is an issue here - Greg and Tom will buy any items that are unsold after a day or two. If there was no max price, I could put up an egg for $1000000 and know I would be a guaranteed millionaire in two days time.

There are modifications to get around this, for example Greg & Tom only paying current max. But I haven't been able to come up with an elegant way around it and one of the great things about Hay Day is how intuitive it is.

otherwise I love the idea

Eliminate Greg and tom from buying off of the stand. All that creates is an artificial demand for useless items like a stack of 10 blue sweaters. When people could be spending time churning out milk for cheese, they are spending a pass in the feeders on sheep food in an attempt to keep all production running 24/7, when in reality people should be made to have to make choices. No one would be churning out wool and sweaters, paper would be cleaned up from them, etc...

Maybe Supercell could add an auction house to our farms/towns. Auctions are a big part of farming. Everything from mercantile exchanges to local livestock auctions. There could be a limit on number of items allowed to be auctioned off per day so that auctions don't completely replace the roadside shop. Players would set a minimum price, and other players would bid until the auction expires.

Seeing how price ceilings work in the context of the game is pretty interesting to me too. Just like in real life, there emerges a grey market (trading) and a black market (players selling expansion materials for real life currency).

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Originally Posted by Quingernut

I really like this idea. Maybe they could do an event every so often where you can charge what you like at your rss or an event where the max prices are doubled. I bet a lot of people would be selling hard to get items as no one would buy things like bacon and eggs. People will buy these hard to find items no matter what the price. It would be a great way to spice up the rss a bit and help people generate some coins. You should post this in the ideas section.

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I like the price cap. The price cap allows Lower level players to purchase expansion items and other goodies from the paper. I played this game for the first 50 levels by myself. I relied completely on the paper for everything I couldn't make for myself. If We were allowed to sell BEMs for any amount, you would have person A selling them for 1000 points, person b, would come in and buy all of them, and price them for 5000 points.. And this would continue on and on.. Lower level players couldn't afford to buy those last 10 bolts they need for upgrade

and there are great items like jewelry, cheeses, jams, candies in the paper, you have to look a lot in the paper, and look often, but I find good stuff all the time.

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

Seeing how price ceilings work in the context of the game is pretty interesting to me too. Just like in real life, there emerges a grey market (trading) and a black market (players selling expansion materials for real life currency).

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A little off topic, but I have noticed some farms that only sell wheat, no production buildings, and their farm name along with their nh is very systematically named. I don't support them and i will not buy their wheat

Every so often someone comes along and want to "fix the paper" to get rid of all those eggs. But what they don't understand is that not only is there good stuff hidden behind those eggs but as you level up and max out your machine slots, those eggs at whatever price are sought after. I regularly have to go to the paper and buy 30-40 eggs several times a day. In order to load up my cake, pie, sauce, sushi, sandwich and salad machines I need many more eggs than my chickens can produce. Also what you don't understand is that your version of the paper is different from my version of the paper. You only see items in your version that can be bought at your level. Until you get all the machines, you won't see what I see. My paper isn't filled with just eggs or bacon and I see lots of good stuff in mine. I just got three jars of cherry jam, some tape, a few paint buckets and some egg sushi. I just missed out on some bolts, cheese, cheesecake, lots of soy sauce and mayonnaise. That really bummed me out!

Removing the price cap on items would ruin the game for lower level players as was mentioned. They have enough trouble getting coins and pricing them out of the market would be bad on so many fronts. The people who can afford to buy these high priced items already have more money than they need. Increasing the prices would not encourage lower and mid level players to sell more cheese, because no one can keep enough dairy products to produce what the townies want and what the boats want. Not needing money doesn't encourage me to put items in the market. I only sell stuff to make room in my barn and trust me, cheese is never for sale at my shop, no matter what it costs.

The main reason lower level farmers have trouble with cash is because they attempt to level up too fast. Many of these are younger players who play the types of games that encourage you to level up fast to progress in the game. Hay day isn't that type of game. That's probably why it appeals to those of us who got their start playing solitaire and mine sweeper so many years ago. If you level up slower you always have enough money to buy each machine and it not because you can sell your stuff at an exorbitant price

Plus SC regularly doubles the cash we get from boat, truck and visitors with those weekly events. But the regular prices don't stop people from filling boats and running trucks. I really think your idea will make no change in the paper. The only thing that will do that is time. When you unlock all products you will see more items in the paper and when the current group of players finish expanding their town, more and more town expansion materials will be in the paper. I already see a lot of it in mine.

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Originally Posted by Tiggerr129

Every so often someone comes along and want to "fix the paper" to get rid of all those eggs. But what they don't understand is that not only is there good stuff hidden behind those eggs but as you level up and max out your machine slots, those eggs at whatever price are sought after. I regularly have to go to the paper and buy 30-40 eggs several times a day. In order to load up my cake, pie, sauce, sushi, sandwich and salad machines I need many more eggs than my chickens can produce. Also what you don't understand is that your version of the paper is different from my version of the paper. You only see items in your version that can be bought at your level. Until you get all the machines, you won't see what I see. My paper isn't filled with just eggs or bacon and I see lots of good stuff in mine. I just got three jars of cherry jam, some tape, a few paint buckets and some egg sushi. I just missed out on some bolts, cheese, cheesecake, lots of soy sauce and mayonnaise. That really bummed me out

Plus SC regularly doubles the cash we get from boat, truck and visitors with those weekly events. But the regular prices don't stop people from filling boats and running trucks. I really think your idea will make no change in the paper. The only thing that will do that is time. When you unlock all products you will see more items in the paper and when the current group of players finish expanding their town, more and more town expansion materials will be in the paper. I already see a lot of it in mine.

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Great post Tigger...completely agree with you. I'm level 82 ...and gets lots of different produce from the Dirt. ..and often buy eggs, wheat, and anything else I run short on!

Agreed as well. Remember when free ads were 30 minutes long and the paper didn't refresh as often. I preferred the paper back then. Lots of great items hidden behind those bacon and eggs. Also you knew right away when you got a hot paper with fresh ads. :)