New Hero Idea - The Zeppelin (with pics!)

Hello, guys, and today I am introducing a new Hero.

(Thanks kyumin2lee for the pics!)


http://i59.tinypic.com/6pqfro.png



The Zeppelin!

"This ferocious pirate traded its love of blowing things up to sail the seven skies in hopes of the rare Dark Elixir. Now he uses his volatile balloon to help us from above."

Origin:
Originally a wall breaker, his bravery led him to being promoted to Balloon. However, his greed overcame him and he ran away from his battalion. On his treacherous journey, he quickly addicted to Dark Elixir. He got through a drill a day. But he craved more. He ventured more and more, raiding base after base for more dark elixir. This led to him growing to giant proportions! He became a quickly strong warrior. However, he was caught by his former battalion and they arrested him.
He was treated for addiction, but again was smuggled out as a crate of bombs. He was found drinking at a bar by our town hall ladies, who persuaded him to join their crusade for victory in return for Dark Elixir. He now still enjoys a drop here and there, but his craving for loot soon turned into a craving for victory.


This is an aerial hero, for the first time. He drops big bombs from his balloon.

His Special Ability : Air strike. - Heturns very powerful, flinging his bombs all over the base in a big fling. He also summons ground skeletons for support. They will drop in a 5X5 radius and will attack the nearest buildings. The level ability reflects how many bombs he flings and how many skeletons he spawns. This is a one-off effect. The bombs all land in the nearest buildings, randomly.
His Altar: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxehec.jpg

While sleeping, he rests on the floor, with his balloon parked next to him.

While defending, he floats in the sky, with a slightly bigger radius that BK

Also, when the Zeppelin dies, it crashes to the ground.

If killed by

Archers/Archer towers : 200 damage
Wizard/Wizard towers : 300 damage
Dragon/Inferno towers : 400 damage
Minions : 100 damage
Witch : 250 damage

Also, archers give 2X damage towards this hero for balancing reasons.

I think that an aerial troop will be a nice twist to the game, and will add to the game a new hero!

Swithing Heroes:

Having three Heroes is too OP. Therefore only two can be active at a time. While upgrading there cannot be stored.

http://i57.tinypic.com/a8npz.png

If you press on a alter, there will be a 'switch' button. Press it, to go to this screen, where you can replace the current hero.

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Range	Search Radius
None	Air	10	3s	1 tile	15 tiles

Level		Damage per Hit		Hitpoints	Regen Time	Ability Level		Training Cost http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ark_elixir.png	Training Time			Town HallLevel Required
1		210		800	1h	N/A.		20,000	None			8
2		218		832	1h 4m	N/A		22,500	12h			8
3		227		865	1h 8m	N/A		25,000	1d			8
4		236		900	1h 12m	N/A		27,500	1d 12h			8
5		246		936	1h 16m	1		30,000	2d			8
6		255		973	1h 20m	1		32,500	2d 12h			8
7		266		1012	1h 24m	1		35,000	3d			8
8		276		1,053	1h 28m	1		40,000	3d 12h			8
9		287		1,095	1h 32m	1		45,000	4d			8
10		299		1,139	1h 36m	2		50,000	4d 12h			8
11		311		1184	1h 40m	2		65,000	5d			9
12		323		1232	1h 44m	2		70,000	5d 12h			9
13		336		1281	1h 48m	2		75,000	6d			9
14		350		1332	1h 52m	2		80,000	6d 12h			9
15		364		1385	1h 56m	3		85,000	7d			9
16		378		1441	2h	3		90,000	7d			9
17		393		1498	2h 4m	3		95,000	7d			9
18		409		1558	2h 8m	3		100,000	7d			9
19		425		1621	2h 12m	3		105,000	7d			9
20		442		1685	2h 16m	4		110,000	7d			9
21		460		1753	2h 20m	4		115,000	7d			9
22		479		1823	2h 24m	4		120,000	7d			9
23		498		1896	2h 28m	4		125,000	7d			9
24		518		1972	2h 32m	4		130,000	7d			9
25		538		2051	2h 36m	5		135,000	7d			9
26		560		2133	2h 40m	5		140,000	7d			9
27		582		2218	2h 44m	5		145,000	7d			9
28		606		2307	2h 48m	5		150,000	7d			9
29		630		2399	2h 52m	5		155,000	7d			9
30		655		2495	2h 56m	6		160,000	7d			9
31		668		2595	3h	6		165,000	7d			10
32		681		2699	3h	6		170,000	7d			10
33		695		2806	3h	6		175,000	7d			10
34		709		2919	3h	6		180,000	7d			10
35		723		3035	3h	7		182,500	7d			10
36		738		3157	3h	7		185,000	7d			10
37		752		3283	3h	7		187,500	7d			10
38		767		3414	3h	7		190,000	7d			10
39		783		3551	3h	7		195,000	7d			10
40		800		3700	3h	8		200,000	7d			10

Air strike Ability

Ability Level	Bombs flung		Summoned Units (skeletons)
1	3		3
2	4		4
3	5		5
4	6		6
5	7		7
6	8		8
7	9		9
8	10		10

Skeleton stats:
Attachment 47174
HP: 100
DPS: 30 (one attack per second)
NO favourite target
Ground

I hope you like it! It took time to change stats etc.

Please give constructive feedback!

Also be sure to check out my other ideas!

http://i57.tinypic.com/xfvlti.jpg

They are all in my sig.

kyumin2lee

Reserved for future post.


4000+ views and 100+ replies as of time of this writing!

Thanks for the support everyone!

I really want SC to recognise it!

Dear god was this designed during an acid trip?

Good efforts on the details, it looks promising.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Dear god was this designed during an acid trip?

Good efforts on the details, it looks promising.

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Thanks. I appreciate it.

I need more feedback guys!

New heroes had been ruled out.

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Originally Posted by Leo33

New heroes had been ruled out.

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They have not.....

*facepalm*

Love the idea!! So what if this is ruled out, I still like the idea and kudos for spending a lot of effort into this post:):)

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Originally Posted by Leo33

New heroes had been ruled out.

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A common misconception.

The rule is:

*Requests for all troop types to have a related hero.

Which means that not all troops are to be asked to have a hero, but still can be suggested to add another, or a few, but you can't suggest a hero for every troop in the game. I fell through that in the past as well.

Looks interesting and original. I like it for a start, but of course still need some tweaks.

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Originally Posted by johnnybro1234

Love the idea!! So what if this is ruled out, I still like the idea and kudos for spending a lot of effort into this post:):)

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Thanks. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Nagrarok

A common misconception.

The rule is:

*Requests for all troop types to have a related hero.

Which means that not all troops are to be asked to have a hero, but still can be suggested to add another, or a few, but you can't suggest a hero for every troop in the game. I fell through that in the past as well.

Looks interesting and original. I like it for a start, but of course still need some tweaks.

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Thanks; what changes shall I make? I have also been thinking about damage for a big explosion when it dies? How do you think about that?

Good but still it is Ruled out:cool:.

Edit:It is only ruled out if it targets resources

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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Originally Posted by Leo33

New heroes had been ruled out.

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Where because heros are the most wanted update besides mabey DE spells, Clan Village, and Town Hall 11

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Originally Posted by Miningclasher16

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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Ummmm.. Sorry? Wow, ok then, I will change the stats but please explain why it is so overpowered.

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Originally Posted by Miningclasher16

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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Shut up mate, You ate clearly a confused child walking around in these forums.......

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Originally Posted by Miningclasher16

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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Shut up mate, You are clearly a confused child walking around in these forums.......

Guys, let's stop arguing.


This idea is not ruled out.

So, who like The Zeppelin?

Update : The Zeppelin does deals 400 damage at every level when it dies.

epic idea man SC make this hero plz

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Originally Posted by Arz

epic idea man SC make this hero plz

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Thanks.
10 chars:cool:

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Thanks.
10 chars:cool:

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np n nice location

This is a great idea. But I have a suggestion for appearance. Make it longer (like a real zeppelin) and than have the king be in the back of the balloon and have servants drop the bombs. I will try to edit it in a minute.

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

This is a great idea. But I have a suggestion for appearance. Make it longer (like a real zeppelin) and than have the king be in the back of the balloon and have servants drop the bombs. I will try to edit it in a minute.

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I think that only the king in the balloon is better, though.

I already stretched the balloon to look like a zeppelin, but I think any longer would kinda look weird...

Thanks, though, for the suggestions.

I like the idea, but it's far too strong.

This type of hero is also ruled out.

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Originally Posted by dominic115

I like the idea, but it's far too strong.

This type of hero is also ruled out.

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First of all, it is not ruled out.

The Zeppelin has quite low health compared to BK, but has large damage. So this makes the Zeppelin a very bad unit alone, because Air Defences will make short work of it.

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

First of all, it is not ruled out.

The Zeppelin has quite low health compared to BK, but has large damage. So this makes the Zeppelin a very bad unit alone, because Air Defences will make short work of it.

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Quite low health? What are you talking about? Your level 40 Zeppelin has 6000 hitpoints, more than the Barb King's 5701. That's also over twice as many hitpoints as a level 4 drag, making it way overpowered because anyone with the ability to touch the screen will be able to at least 1-star every single base in the world with the same troop comp (13 drags, 5 minions, 1 balloon, 3 overpowered heroes).

At the very least you should restrict people to using only 2 heroes at a time, because a Zeppelin will survive almost 19 seconds while being hit by a level 8 air defense. The one plus is that it's so overpowered that all-drag and balloonion would become much more popular at higher trophies, forcing people to design more than just anti-GoWiWi bases. A new hero would likely upset some of the balance of the game, but one as overpowered as this would be a disaster.

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Originally Posted by MrScribbler

Quite low health? What are you talking about? Your level 40 Zeppelin has 6000 hitpoints, more than the Barb King's 5701. That's also over twice as many hitpoints as a level 4 drag, making it way overpowered because anyone with the ability to touch the screen will be able to at least 1-star every single base in the world with the same troop comp (13 drags, 5 minions, 1 balloon, 3 overpowered heroes).

At the very least you should restrict people to using only 2 heroes at a time, because a Zeppelin will survive almost 19 seconds while being hit by a level 8 air defense. The one plus is that it's so overpowered that all-drag and balloonion would become much more popular at higher trophies, forcing people to design more than just anti-GoWiWi bases. A new hero would likely upset some of the balance of the game, but one as overpowered as this would be a disaster.

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Ok. I understand. I will change the HP quite a bit. Thanks : )

Not a bad concept, however, my IMO you need to come up with a different ability. It sounds quite similar to BK rage. Perhaps to nerf the strength as well maybe 2x damage from air defense?

Just my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by joelcthon

Not a bad concept, however, my IMO you need to come up with a different ability. It sounds quite similar to BK rage. Perhaps to nerf the strength as well maybe 2x damage from air defense?

Just my thoughts.

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The ability has changed!

His Special Ability : Meteor Shower - He turns very powerful, flinging his bombs all over the base in a big fling. He also summons balloons for support.
The level ability reflects how many bombs he flings and how many balloons he spawns. This is a one-off effect. The bombs all land in the nearest buildings, randomly.

I like it man, seems good idea and honestly original, but I think it would be better if his prefered target was defenses, I mean if he is like a balloon which he is than it should be defenses just a thought. But overall its nice! Nice Job!

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Originally Posted by Superraven

I like it man, seems good idea and honestly original, but I think it would be better if his prefered target was defenses, I mean if he is like a balloon which he is than it should be defenses just a thought. But overall its nice! Nice Job!

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Nope, then it becomes too OP. Also, all the heroes don't target anything.

Thanks for the input.

I love this idea. Was just thinking its special ability should b to drop troops onto the battlefield at same time as bombs. Either wallbreakers or just barbarians would be cool. Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Nope, then it becomes too OP. Also, all the heroes don't target anything.

Thanks for the input.

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See your point you are right so here's another suggestion how about it can't be detected by air bombs, I don't think it would be to OP actually with this, what you think seems good?

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Originally Posted by Superraven

See your point you are right so here's another suggestion how about it can't be detected by air bombs, what you think seems good?

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Hmmm... no. I think the seeking air mine will be its arch-nemesis. Without air-traps, the only defences against this thing are

Air defences, Archer Towers, Wizard Towers.

Archers, Wizards, Dragon, Witch. And 70% of bases probably don't have CC troops.

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Hmmm... no. I think the seeking air mine will be its arch-nemesis. Without air-traps, the only defences against this thing are

Air defences, Archer Towers, Wizard Towers.

Archers, Wizards, Dragon, Witch. And 70% of bases probably don't have CC troops.

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Yep true but, if this thing is going to move pretty slow, which I think it will unless, I am wrong then honestly up in the higher levels the air defense would beat this so it ain't overpowered and if a seeking air mine attacked it than that be a very damaging blow in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Superraven

Yep true but, if this thing is going to move pretty slow, which I think it will unless, I am wrong then honestly up in the higher levels the air defense would beat this so it ain't overpowered and if a seeking air mine attacked it than that be a very damaging blow in my opinion.

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This is kinda the point here. The Zeppelin not good on its own. It has high damage, but low hp and speed. You must use it as a support troop, like heroes. And so it is weak to Air defences and air mines.

EDIT: wow... 700 views...

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

This is kinda the point here. The Zeppelin not good on its own. It has high damage, but low hp and speed. You must use it as a support troop, like heroes. And so it is weak to Air defences and air mines.

EDIT: wow... 700 views...

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That's why he is a hero, He needs to be strong, being immune to bombs would help a lot.

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Originally Posted by Superraven

That's why he is a hero, He needs to be strong, being immune to bombs would help a lot.

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He needs to be strong, but not OP.

UPDATE I have some new ideas.

1) It has double damage from air bombs... Because the DE balloon is very fragile and prone to explosions.

2) To prevent overpowering, only two altars are available at any one time. The other is 'stored'.

It must be active during upgrades and cannot be stored.

Two things to add to this conversation:
First, the Zeppelin looks boss! I like it a ton and SC should totally add it! Second, instead of calling other balloons during its ability maybe it should drop down normal Skeleton Bombs (target walls) to help the battle. Although calling balloons is cool too!

Good job for working so hard on this! I hope it is added!

NO WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER HERO!!!!! Offense is already very overpowered because of level 40 heroes. I think i will quit if supercell adds another hero without boosting defense.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Good efforts on the details, it looks promising.

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Love the idea!!

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Originally Posted by Arz

epic idea man SC make this hero plz

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Thanks a lot for the support guys!

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

Two things to add to this conversation:
First, the Zeppelin looks boss! I like it a ton and SC should totally add it! Second, instead of calling other balloons during its ability maybe it should drop down normal Skeleton Bombs (target walls) to help the battle. Although calling balloons is cool too!

Good job for working so hard on this! I hope it is added!

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Thanks for the pic. It looks like it has gold chains :cool:

I think summoning Skeletons would be too illogical or hard to co-ordinate. Maybe it spawns skeleton troops like the witch?

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Originally Posted by Furgle

NO WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER HERO!!!!! Offense is already very overpowered because of level 40 heroes. I think i will quit if supercell adds another hero without boosting defense.

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Don't forget Heroes add to defence. This particular hero in fact helps defines a lot, while quite weak at offence.

Yes, instead of spawning Skely Bombs or Balloons it should spawn normal Skeletons (like a witch does) but they should be Paratroopers falling in a 2 or 3 tile radius around the Zeppelin

I think it's a good idea because we'll finally have a Balloon which is strong :D

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

Yes, instead of spawning Skely Bombs or Balloons it should spawn normal Skeletons (like a witch does) but they should be Paratroopers falling in a 2 or 3 tile radius around the Zeppelin

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Originally Posted by LordDannington

I love this idea. Was just thinking its special ability should b to drop troops onto the battlefield at same time as bombs. Either wallbreakers or just barbarians would be cool. Thoughts?

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OK then. Instead of summoning balloons, it will drop skeletons that will attack buildings.

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Originally Posted by BobJackson

I think it's a good idea because we'll finally have a Balloon which is strong :D

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Yeah. It's one of the reasons why I picked the Balloon.

This idea is so well developed! I really hope SC implements it. Thanks for being open to ideas :)

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

This idea is so well developed! I really hope SC implements it. Thanks for being open to ideas :)

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Yeah, I really enjoy this. Being open to ideas can also lead to a better idea!

Amazing work, would love to see this added to the game. Could tell you put a lot of effort and thinking into this.

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Originally Posted by Bigboss1456

Amazing work, would love to see this added to the game. Could tell you put a lot of effort and thinking into this.

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Yeah, I have.

Thanks.

:)

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Hello, guys, and today I am introducing a new Hero.


http://i59.tinypic.com/6pqfro.png



The Zeppelin!

"This ferocious pirate traded its love of blowing things up to sail the seven skies in hopes of the rare Dark Elixir. Now he uses his volatile balloon to help us from above."

This is an aerial hero, for the first time. He drops big bombs from his balloon.

His Special Ability : Air strike. - Heturns very powerful, flinging his bombs all over the base in a big fling. He also summons ground skeletons for support. They will drop in a 5X5 radius and will attack the nearest buildings. The level ability reflects how many bombs he flings and how many skeletons he spawns. This is a one-off effect. The bombs all land in the nearest buildings, randomly.All skeletons have the same stats as a level 5 Barbarian.
His Altar: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxehec.jpg

While sleeping, he rests on the floor, with his balloon parked next to him.

While defending, he floats in the sky, with a slightly bigger radius that BK

Also, when the Zeppelin dies, it crashes to the ground. The explosive ballon deals 400 damage at every level.

I think that an aerial troop will be a nice twist to the game, and will add to the game a new hero!

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Range	Search Radius
None	Air	10	3s	1 tile	15 tiles

Level		Damage per Hit		Hitpoints	Regen Time	Ability Level		Training Cost http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ark_elixir.png	Training Time			Town HallLevel Required
1		210		800	1h	N/A.		20,000	None			8
2		220		920	1h 4m	N/A		22,500	12h			8
3		235		1,040	1h 8m	N/A		25,000	1d			8
4		265		1,150	1h 12m	N/A		27,500	1d 12h			8
5		285		1,240	1h 16m	1		30,000	2d			8
6		297		1,340	1h 20m	1		32,500	2d 12h			8
7		314		1,450	1h 24m	1		35,000	3d			8
8		336		1,580	1h 28m	1		40,000	3d 12h			8
9		348		1,770	1h 32m	1		45,000	4d			8
10		360		1,890	1h 36m	2		50,000	4d 12h			8
11		380		1900	1h 40m	2		65,000	5d			9
12		390		2,000	1h 44m	2		70,000	5d 12h			9
13		400		2,102	1h 48m	2		75,000	6d			9
14		413		2,250	1h 52m	2		80,000	6d 12h			9
15		427		2,360	1h 56m	3		85,000	7d			9
16		440		2,500	2h	3		90,000	7d			9
17		456		2,660	2h 4m	3		95,000	7d			9
18		536		2,750	2h 8m	3		100,000	7d			9
19		547		3,150	2h 12m	3		105,000	7d			9
20		569		3,550	2h 16m	4		110,000	7d			9
21		599		3,600	2h 20m	4		115,000	7d			9
22		610		3,640	2h 24m	4		120,000	7d			9
23		619		3,690	2h 28m	4		125,000	7d			9
24		634		3,730	2h 32m	4		130,000	7d			9
25		650		3,800	2h 36m	5		135,000	7d			9
26		665		3,910	2h 40m	5		140,000	7d			9
27		680		4,000	2h 44m	5		145,000	7d			9
28		696		4,125	2h 48m	5		150,000	7d			9
29		714		4,236	2h 52m	5		155,000	7d			9
30		725		4,340	2h 56m	6		160,000	7d			9
31		736		4,400	3h	6		165,000	7d			10
32		748		4,560	3h	6		170,000	7d			10
33		754		4,640	3h	6		175,000	7d			10
34		769		4,720	3h	6		180,000	7d			10
35		781		4,800	3h	7		182,500	7d			10
36		800		4,850	3h	7		185,000	7d			10
37		813		4,875	3h	7		187,500	7d			10
38		825		4,900	3h	7		190,000	7d			10
39		837		4,925	3h	7		195,000	7d			10
40		850		5000	3h	8		200,000	7d			10

Air strike Ability

Ability Level	Bombs flung		Summoned Units
1	3		3
2	4		4
3	5		5
4	6		6
5	7		7
6	8		8
7	9		9
8	10		10

I hope you like it! It took time to change stats etc.

Please give constructive feedback!

kyumin2lee

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Me likey likey

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Me likey likey

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Me thanks thanky.

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Hello, guys, and today I am introducing a new Hero.


http://i59.tinypic.com/6pqfro.png



The Zeppelin!

"This ferocious pirate traded its love of blowing things up to sail the seven skies in hopes of the rare Dark Elixir. Now he uses his volatile balloon to help us from above."

This is an aerial hero, for the first time. He drops big bombs from his balloon.

His Special Ability : Air strike. - Heturns very powerful, flinging his bombs all over the base in a big fling. He also summons ground skeletons for support. They will drop in a 5X5 radius and will attack the nearest buildings. The level ability reflects how many bombs he flings and how many skeletons he spawns. This is a one-off effect. The bombs all land in the nearest buildings, randomly.All skeletons have the same stats as a level 5 Barbarian.
His Altar: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxehec.jpg

While sleeping, he rests on the floor, with his balloon parked next to him.

While defending, he floats in the sky, with a slightly bigger radius that BK

Also, when the Zeppelin dies, it crashes to the ground. The explosive ballon deals 400 damage at every level.

I think that an aerial troop will be a nice twist to the game, and will add to the game a new hero!

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Range	Search Radius
None	Air	10	3s	1 tile	15 tiles

Level		Damage per Hit		Hitpoints	Regen Time	Ability Level		Training Cost http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ark_elixir.png	Training Time			Town HallLevel Required
1		210		800	1h	N/A.		20,000	None			8
2		220		920	1h 4m	N/A		22,500	12h			8
3		235		1,040	1h 8m	N/A		25,000	1d			8
4		265		1,150	1h 12m	N/A		27,500	1d 12h			8
5		285		1,240	1h 16m	1		30,000	2d			8
6		297		1,340	1h 20m	1		32,500	2d 12h			8
7		314		1,450	1h 24m	1		35,000	3d			8
8		336		1,580	1h 28m	1		40,000	3d 12h			8
9		348		1,770	1h 32m	1		45,000	4d			8
10		360		1,890	1h 36m	2		50,000	4d 12h			8
11		380		1900	1h 40m	2		65,000	5d			9
12		390		2,000	1h 44m	2		70,000	5d 12h			9
13		400		2,102	1h 48m	2		75,000	6d			9
14		413		2,250	1h 52m	2		80,000	6d 12h			9
15		427		2,360	1h 56m	3		85,000	7d			9
16		440		2,500	2h	3		90,000	7d			9
17		456		2,660	2h 4m	3		95,000	7d			9
18		536		2,750	2h 8m	3		100,000	7d			9
19		547		3,150	2h 12m	3		105,000	7d			9
20		569		3,550	2h 16m	4		110,000	7d			9
21		599		3,600	2h 20m	4		115,000	7d			9
22		610		3,640	2h 24m	4		120,000	7d			9
23		619		3,690	2h 28m	4		125,000	7d			9
24		634		3,730	2h 32m	4		130,000	7d			9
25		650		3,800	2h 36m	5		135,000	7d			9
26		665		3,910	2h 40m	5		140,000	7d			9
27		680		4,000	2h 44m	5		145,000	7d			9
28		696		4,125	2h 48m	5		150,000	7d			9
29		714		4,236	2h 52m	5		155,000	7d			9
30		725		4,340	2h 56m	6		160,000	7d			9
31		736		4,400	3h	6		165,000	7d			10
32		748		4,560	3h	6		170,000	7d			10
33		754		4,640	3h	6		175,000	7d			10
34		769		4,720	3h	6		180,000	7d			10
35		781		4,800	3h	7		182,500	7d			10
36		800		4,850	3h	7		185,000	7d			10
37		813		4,875	3h	7		187,500	7d			10
38		825		4,900	3h	7		190,000	7d			10
39		837		4,925	3h	7		195,000	7d			10
40		850		5000	3h	8		200,000	7d			10

Air strike Ability

Ability Level	Bombs flung		Summoned Units
1	3		3
2	4		4
3	5		5
4	6		6
5	7		7
6	8		8
7	9		9
8	10		10

I hope you like it! It took time to change stats etc.

Please give constructive feedback!

kyumin2lee

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First of all
- I am in love with this idea, the whole concept is amazing.

Would I be right in thinking that this targets recourse?

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Originally Posted by Miningclasher16

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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He noticed, and has changed it accordingly, why don't you edit your post with a good enough reason to like or dislike this post, or stop commenting altogether.

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Originally Posted by Miningclasher16

Wow shows how much u know noob! The max dark u can hold is 200,000 😂😂😂 and honestly...this is a terrible idea!!! Way to overpowered

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Never call someone a noob when they have more posts than you. You just sound stupid. Anyways, I think this is a great idea, but having three heroes at a time would be a bit Overpowered.
Also thanks for dropping the cyberspace bot act. It was kinda freaky...

Seems op and we have troops like that they are called balloons lol

I like the idea, but here are a few suggestions:


The your table shows the damage per hit. If you calculate the damage per second and compare this to the lvl 6 balloon, you'll see that the lvl 6 balloon has more damage per second than the lvl 24 zeppelin. Is this intentional?

zeppelin lvl 10 upgrade = 50000 dark elixir
zeppelin lvl 11 upgrade = 65000 dark elixir
I guess this is a typo and the lvl 11 upgrade should be 55000 dark elixir. This also affects all levels above lvl 11. Now the 200000k maximum dark elixir storage isn't a problem anymore and the costs can increase by 5k each lvl from lvl 7 up to lvl 40.

Untill now, all heroes followed the following formulas almost exactly:

For level less then or equal to 30:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

For level 31 to 40:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

To remain consistent, the health and damage of the zeppelin must follow these formulas too. I made a table for 210 damage per hit on lvl 1 and 800 hitpoints on lvl 1:

level	damage per hit	hitpoints
1	210	800
2	218	832
3	227	865
4	236	900
5	246	936
6	255	973
7	266	1012
8	276	1053
9	287	1095
10	299	1139
11	311	1184
12	323	1232
13	336	1281
14	350	1332
15	364	1385
16	378	1441
17	393	1498
18	409	1558
19	425	1621
20	442	1685
21	460	1753
22	479	1823
23	498	1896
24	518	1972
25	538	2051
26	560	2133
27	582	2218
28	606	2307
29	630	2399
30	655	2495
31	668	2595
32	681	2699
33	695	2806
34	709	2919
35	723	3035
36	738	3157
37	752	3283
38	767	3414
39	783	3551
40	798	3693

Benny58624

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

First of all
- I am in love with this idea, the whole concept is amazing.

Would I be right in thinking that this targets recourse?



He noticed, and has changed it accordingly, why don't you edit your post with a good enough reason to like or dislike this post, or stop commenting altogether.

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Nope it targets nothing.

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Originally Posted by Flab

Never call someone a noob when they have more posts than you. You just sound stupid. Anyways, I think this is a great idea, but having three heroes at a time would be a bit Overpowered.
Also thanks for dropping the cyberspace bot act. It was kinda freaky...

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Thanks. By the way, I am still cyberspace bot. My font AI has broken.

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Originally Posted by footballismylife

Seems op and we have troops like that they are called balloons lol

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This was the troop it was made after. I am going to nerf the Zeppelin soon anyways :)

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Originally Posted by benny58624

I like the idea, but here are a few suggestions:


The your table shows the damage per hit. If you calculate the damage per second and compare this to the lvl 6 balloon, you'll see that the lvl 6 balloon has more damage per second than the lvl 24 zeppelin. Is this intentional?

zeppelin lvl 10 upgrade = 50000 dark elixir
zeppelin lvl 11 upgrade = 65000 dark elixir
I guess this is a typo and the lvl 11 upgrade should be 55000 dark elixir. This also affects all levels above lvl 11. Now the 200000k maximum dark elixir storage isn't a problem anymore and the costs can increase by 5k each lvl from lvl 7 up to lvl 40.

Untill now, all heroes followed the following formulas almost exactly:

For level less then or equal to 30:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

For level 31 to 40:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

To remain consistent, the health and damage of the zeppelin must follow these formulas too. I made a table for 210 damage per hit on lvl 1 and 800 hitpoints on lvl 1:

level	damage per hit	hitpoints
1	210	800
2	218	832
3	227	865
4	236	900
5	246	936
6	255	973
7	266	1012
8	276	1053
9	287	1095
10	299	1139
11	311	1184
12	323	1232
13	336	1281
14	350	1332
15	364	1385
16	378	1441
17	393	1498
18	409	1558
19	425	1621
20	442	1685
21	460	1753
22	479	1823
23	498	1896
24	518	1972
25	538	2051
26	560	2133
27	582	2218
28	606	2307
29	630	2399
30	655	2495
31	668	2595
32	681	2699
33	695	2806
34	709	2919
35	723	3035
36	738	3157
37	752	3283
38	767	3414
39	783	3551
40	798	3693

Benny58624

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I am forever thankful. You see I am not really good with stats.

Will copy and credit when I get home.

Guys I got back home very late yesterday, but I will definitely replace the stats this evening.

Thanks!

kyumin2lee

Didn't read every page since there were 6 but what about a dragon rider as a dragon hero or a boar rider as hog rider hero etc.

Not that I don't like your idea those two just seem more BA

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Originally Posted by jrrogers09

Didn't read every page since there were 6 but what about a dragon rider as a dragon hero or a boar rider as hog rider hero etc.

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Technically, all heroes based on troops are banned by SuperCell as said in their stickies (how many times must I say to all players, please read the stickies), so Dragon Rider and Boar Rider are banned. Theoretically Zeppelin would be banned too, but I don't know maybe SC will make an exception in this case.

Edit: I realized I used the word "banned" when the correct term is "ruled out." Please excuse that minor flaw.

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Originally Posted by benny58624

I like the idea, but here are a few suggestions:


The your table shows the damage per hit. If you calculate the damage per second and compare this to the lvl 6 balloon, you'll see that the lvl 6 balloon has more damage per second than the lvl 24 zeppelin. Is this intentional?

zeppelin lvl 10 upgrade = 50000 dark elixir
zeppelin lvl 11 upgrade = 65000 dark elixir
I guess this is a typo and the lvl 11 upgrade should be 55000 dark elixir. This also affects all levels above lvl 11. Now the 200000k maximum dark elixir storage isn't a problem anymore and the costs can increase by 5k each lvl from lvl 7 up to lvl 40.

Untill now, all heroes followed the following formulas almost exactly:

For level less then or equal to 30:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

For level 31 to 40:
damage per second = (damage per second on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer
health = (health on lvl 1)*1.04²⁹*1.02^level-1 rounded to the nearest integer

To remain consistent, the health and damage of the zeppelin must follow these formulas too. I made a table for 210 damage per hit on lvl 1 and 800 hitpoints on lvl 1:

level	damage per hit	hitpoints
1	210	800
2	218	832
3	227	865
4	236	900
5	246	936
6	255	973
7	266	1012
8	276	1053
9	287	1095
10	299	1139
11	311	1184
12	323	1232
13	336	1281
14	350	1332
15	364	1385
16	378	1441
17	393	1498
18	409	1558
19	425	1621
20	442	1685
21	460	1753
22	479	1823
23	498	1896
24	518	1972
25	538	2051
26	560	2133
27	582	2218
28	606	2307
29	630	2399
30	655	2495
31	668	2595
32	681	2699
33	695	2806
34	709	2919
35	723	3035
36	738	3157
37	752	3283
38	767	3414
39	783	3551
40	798	3693

Benny58624

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You should make a formula for the cost too... ur prices aren't very accurate
Maybe have it like the AQ and make the buying cost high but then make the upgrade costs lower
Though I thought heroes were ruled out, this is a pretty cool hero

As for a flying hero...I'd rather have a Minion Lord or something, released at Townhall 10 with max level at 30. Of course this is "if" they are considering another hero and a flying one on top of that. Honestly, offense is already much greater than defense. Adding this would make the offense/defense more unbalanced because heroes are pretty much useless in defense.

Its just the balloon - but stretched!!!!??!!!????

SC could make this the defensive hero. Balloons are awesome in defense from CC. To do this, the lure range should be very small, say 7 tiles? (wizard tower range) Patrol circle can be similiar to BK or AQ. This would make it hard to lure if it's inside the base.

To adjust to this, the damage might be toned down a bit to enemy troops or toned down in general.. 5 x lvl 6 balloons kind of 1shot hog riders and giants if they are not properly lured and killed.

Phew... Very OP, no?

Anyway, why don't it spawn baloons? Or Wall Breakers? Woudn't that be fair?

I see fit for an air born hero in COC, and I like the idea of the name Zeppelin. I personally would think the hero should not be causing to much damage itself and could have high htpoints if the major reason for it´s existance would be to help other balloons.

I would suggest this hero gets a talent to increase damage of balloons nearby from level 1 and not cause any damage itself. That way it limits the usage and the hero gets a specific use for balloon attacks.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by silentd916

As for a flying hero...I'd rather have a Minion Lord or something, released at Townhall 10 with max level at 30. Of course this is "if" they are considering another hero and a flying one on top of that. Honestly, offense is already much greater than defense. Adding this would make the offense/defense more unbalanced because heroes are pretty much useless in defense.

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I thought that a Zeppelin would be actually used more for defence.
TH 10 has too many toys in my opinions.

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Originally Posted by GANN1CU5

Its just the balloon - but stretched!!!!??!!!????

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Look my Photoshopping skills aren't great. But I made the ropes into gold chains, removed the boards and made the skeleton a bit 'pirate'.

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Originally Posted by lenskop

SC could make this the defensive hero. Balloons are awesome in defense from CC. To do this, the lure range should be very small, say 7 tiles? (wizard tower range) Patrol circle can be similiar to BK or AQ. This would make it hard to lure if it's inside the base.

To adjust to this, the damage might be toned down a bit to enemy troops or toned down in general.. 5 x lvl 6 balloons kind of 1shot hog riders and giants if they are not properly lured and killed.

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Well.. I thought about this. I thinks that the zeppelins should have a large lure range, because it is aerial.
This hero is very slow, which will make up the strong damage.

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Originally Posted by Drakeishereandnow

Phew... Very OP, no?

Anyway, why don't it spawn baloons? Or Wall Breakers? Woudn't that be fair?

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Wall breakers are too Random and useless. Balloons are bit too strong for a summon troop.

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Originally Posted by mcleo

I see fit for an air born hero in COC, and I like the idea of the name Zeppelin. I personally would think the hero should not be causing to much damage itself and could have high htpoints if the major reason for it´s existance would be to help other balloons.

I would suggest this hero gets a talent to increase damage of balloons nearby from level 1 and not cause any damage itself. That way it limits the usage and the hero gets a specific use for balloon attacks.

Just my 2 cents.

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hmmmm... Good point. But lest we not forget that this is a pirate fuelled by DE. It ain't got time for the puny piles of bones floating around him. I will think about it and will reply to this later...

Nice photoshop(especially the altar).

Hope this hero gets added....

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

Technically, all heroes based on troops are banned by SuperCell as said in their stickies (how many times must I say to all players, please read the stickies), so Dragon Rider and Boar Rider are banned. Theoretically Zeppelin would be banned too, but I don't know maybe SC will make an exception in this case.

Edit: I realized I used the word "banned" when the correct term is "ruled out." Please excuse that minor flaw.

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My bad... it was my first post ever lol. If those are ruled out then why is there a barb king and archer queen? They should just make a werewolf hero then, or a demon.

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Originally Posted by jrrogers09

My bad... it was my first post ever lol. If those are ruled out then why is there a barb king and archer queen? They should just make a werewolf hero then, or a demon.

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In this case, Supercell mean any more heroes.. We have enough troop based heroes. Maybe they want something orignal if they are to implement it.

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

In this case, Supercell mean any more heroes.. We have enough troop based heroes. Maybe they want something orignal if they are to implement it.

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Guys, the rules forbid ideas which suggests every troop is made into a hero.

That is Goblin King, Wizard Prince, Balloon Pirate, Wall breaker lord, Healer Angel, Dragon Rider, Pekka Princess, Minion Master, Hog rider Master, Valkerye Venturer, Golem Overlord, and Witch devil. :rolleyes:

So yes, original heroes are the way, but making a few exceptions here and there wouldn't hurt?

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Guys, the rules forbid ideas which suggests every troop is made into a hero.

That is Goblin King, Wizard Prince, Balloon Pirate, Wall breaker lord, Healer Angel, Dragon Rider, Pekka Princess, Minion Master, Hog rider Master, Valkerye Venturer, Golem Overlord, and Witch devil. :rolleyes:

So yes, original heroes are the way, but making a few exceptions here and there wouldn't hurt?

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I agree
10yes's

I think it would be too hard for players that don't have archers or any infantry that can target balloons, and even if they have, it would be too powerful. I remember i once had no archers, just giants/barbs and there was a balloon in the clan castle. I ignored it (big mistake) and kept on with the raid. Well, that didn't go well, and even though i had healers/healing spells, they still wiped out my troops pretty well.

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Originally Posted by 0002

I think it would be too hard for players that don't have archers or any infantry that can target balloons, and even if they have, it would be too powerful. I remember i once had no archers, just giants/barbs and there was a balloon in the clan castle. I ignored it (big mistake) and kept on with the raid. Well, that didn't go well, and even though i had healers/healing spells, they still wiped out my troops pretty well.

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What? A th below 6 should not attack th 8 and up. Everyone uses things that can attack air units: archers, wizards, dragons, minions, and witches. This is an amazingful idea and should be implemented.

the zeppelin would excel at defense but die from a couple of well placed seeking air mines.

Im quite amazed about that new hero request. If it had a bit more damage with the abilty it would be better.
should the hero be immune to seeking air mines?

It sounds amazing! It would go perfectly with balloonians.

This is a great idea but it sounds quite over powered.. Perhaps balloon traps do x2 damage? Not quite sure how you would balance this or even if it would need to be balanced.. nether less the effort and detail put into this idea is promising:) Great job

Not to make this too op, y not make it week to air defense, like a PEKKA is weak to a hidden telesa

I really like the Idea! One thing I would tweak is the DPS and hitpoints those are verry high, the hitpoints is higher than the Archer Queen and she is more expensive. The other hing you may want to consider is that the Archer Queen's initial value is 40,000 significantly higher than the 2 or 3 level. You may want to consider that when looking at the prices. Lastly Could you put down a rage when saying how far it was flung?

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Originally Posted by scapegrace

the zeppelin would excel at defense but die from a couple of well placed seeking air mines.

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Jeff294763

Im quite amazed about that new hero request. If it had a bit more damage with the abilty it would be better.
should the hero be immune to seeking air mines?

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NO. The point of the ability is that a range of buildings get targeted. He would not be immune to traps.

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Originally Posted by legoman7409

It sounds amazing! It would go perfectly with balloonians.

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Yeah, I had that in my mind when making this.

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Originally Posted by FaReKi

This is a great idea but it sounds quite over powered.. Perhaps balloon traps do x2 damage? Not quite sure how you would balance this or even if it would need to be balanced.. nether less the effort and detail put into this idea is promising:) Great job

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Thanks. I'll have a think whether 2X damage from traps is good. After all, the DE balloon is very volatile.

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Originally Posted by JayJoker

Not to make this too op, y not make it week to air defense, like a PEKKA is weak to a hidden telesa

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No..... The the hero would be too OP. The AD is its main enemy.

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Originally Posted by Thomas20247

I really like the Idea! One thing I would tweak is the DPS and hitpoints those are verry high, the hitpoints is higher than the Archer Queen and she is more expensive. The other hing you may want to consider is that the Archer Queen's initial value is 40,000 significantly higher than the 2 or 3 level. You may want to consider that when looking at the prices. Lastly Could you put down a rage when saying how far it was flung?

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I buffed the stats right now.

Note that the AQ should start with 20000 DE.
It kinda accidentally started as 40000 but they couldn't change it back because it would be unfair to those who gave the full amount have the price halved.

Or that's what I heard...




Thanks for the feedback guys!

100 people have voted and 67 voted YES! and 16 voted hmmmm!

EDIT: Someone is going to every thread rating one star.... :(

While I like this idea surely the hero thing is just an upgrade of existing troops?

We we have basic first troop....barbarian...and a barbarian king

the second troop we get when we started the game was archer...and hero is an archer queen

so guess what next and then the next etc hero will be ?


i like the zeppelin idea but it's inconsistent with the theme of the game in my opinion (sadly)

i guess hero dark troop (eg minion hero) would be the first flying hero

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiandog

While I like this idea surely the hero thing is just an upgrade of existing troops?

We we have basic first troop....barbarian...and a barbarian king

the second troop we get when we started the game was archer...and hero is an archer queen

so guess what next and then the next etc hero will be ?


i like the zeppelin idea but it's inconsistent with the theme of the game in my opinion (sadly)

i guess hero dark troop (eg minion hero) would be the first flying hero

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Then will we have a goblin hero next? It doesn't always work like that.

There is no "order" for the troops to have heroes - in fact, having all troops have a hero counterpart is ruled out.

A balloon hero would be nice and original.

BIGGEST UPDATE EVER!

Included 'change hero screen', with PIC!

Thanks guys!

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Originally Posted by luk3namop

Technically, all heroes based on troops are banned by SuperCell as said in their stickies (how many times must I say to all players, please read the stickies), so Dragon Rider and Boar Rider are banned. Theoretically Zeppelin would be banned too, but I don't know maybe SC will make an exception in this case.

Edit: I realized I used the word "banned" when the correct term is "ruled out." Please excuse that minor flaw.

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It is only ruled out for ALL the troops being turned into heroes, this idea is okay

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

It is only ruled out for ALL the troops being turned into heroes, this idea is okay

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Guys!

The idea is not ruled out. Period.

Now, please discuss my latest update!

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

Guys!

The idea is not ruled out. Period.

Now, please discuss my latest update!

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I know, was pointing that out. Also love the new update. It is a great idea for balancing. It would add to armies, make you think "which heroes should i use?"

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

I know, was pointing that out. Also love the new update. It is a great idea for balancing. It would add to armies, make you think "which heroes should i use?"

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True. ;)

Also, what do you think of disallowing the storing of heroes while they are upgrading?

I first thought it would be a big pain, but seems logical.

EDIT: Currently 70% agree with this, with many saying "hmmmm"!

A flying hero would block the view of some buildings in a base. Other than this huge issue, I love the hard work you put into this!

The color hurts my eyes -_-

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Originally Posted by UncleJemima

A flying hero would block the view of some buildings in a base. Other than this huge issue, I love the hard work you put into this!

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True.

Maybe it should be smaller when viewing a base, but large when fighting (dragons obstruct the view as well)?

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Originally Posted by kyumin2lee

True.

Maybe it should be smaller when viewing a base, but large when fighting (dragons obstruct the view as well)?

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I am talking about when you want to see a building in your base, the Zeppelin will obstruct the view of that building. Maybe the skeleton should sit on the ground and jump in his balloon while being attacked.

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Originally Posted by UncleJemima

I am talking about when you want to see a building in your base, the Zeppelin will obstruct the view of that building. Maybe the skeleton should sit on the ground and jump in his balloon while being attacked.

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Good idea. His balloon is parked when viewing, with the skeleton walking around waving his sword.

As soon as a troop is placed, while he villagers are fleeing, he runs to his balloon and floats up.

I uploaded an image for the minion skeletons! Their shields don't do anything!

Taken from a thread I made a while ago...

I think a goblin chieftain is a very good idea too... or a minion lord. But you did very good work on this. I especially appreciated your work on the idea if switching heroes. You could designate which heroes to remain on defense in your village. Then ehen it comes time to attack, they will be grayed-out and you would have to choose from your other heroes to attack with.

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Originally Posted by Giantslayer84

I think a goblin chieftain is a very good idea too... or a minion lord. But you did very good work on this. I especially appreciated your work on the idea if switching heroes. You could designate which heroes to remain on defense in your village. Then ehen it comes time to attack, they will be grayed-out and you would have to choose from your other heroes to attack with.

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Thanks.

Greying out unavailable heroes would be good.

Also, I think that buying heroes here would be better than...... from a shop, you know.



ALSO! Healing heroes' healing gets paused when stored.

I have to admit, I would like to see this added! Great job (not many idea threads get me to say that)

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Originally Posted by J1M808

I have to admit, I would like to see this added! Great job (not many idea threads get me to say that)

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Thanks.

It's just that - before an idea is introduced, it should be tested against exploits or OPness......

As the Maxed balloon is my favorite troop in the game I would love to see this addition!

The hero is ok but the idea of switching out heros is great! Good thinking !