Both are designed against mass units. Air Bombs have wider blast radius, it seeks and you can make 4 of them at th8. So why the cost difference?
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Both are designed against mass units. Air Bombs have wider blast radius, it seeks and you can make 4 of them at th8. So why the cost difference?
It is AIR, a lot less air units.
true, but im trying to incorporate minions into my arsenal now and it's not very encouraging when my 20 strong bats just go pop by a 4k balloon.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHYRICH
The bombs usually go to my healers, which easily survive it, but its annoying when one bomb kills 20 at the same time....Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
Try to use either just a few minions or a stronger air unit to lure the bombs out first?Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
The price of the bombs are low for the sake of balance, is my guess. Minions are cheap. Bombs are cheap. Case solved.
That would work if their bombs are a bit exposed. However it can be problematic if they are a bit centralised as your baits will get killed before it does the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by ActionMonkey
Barbs are cheap, archers are cheap and gobs are cheap, and they only occupy 1 slot. 6-10 DE is not cheap as they don't come along that often.
Air bombs came out before the dark elix update. The price for them was set before minions existed. The red bombs are virtually useless against healers/dragons/balloons which is why the price was low. There is now a decent argument for valuing these more as the minion is probably the most common dark elix troop ; however, supercell is unlikely to increase the price of them in my opinion.
this is a good answer - don't just dump them all in and think they will be fine. it's pretty obvious where people put them anyway.
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Originally Posted by ActionMonkey
Depends to who. Darn cheap to me. 100 lvl 5 minions is mere 1000 DE. That's a good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
again it works well if the bombs were not placed centrally thus avoiding getting shot first by other towers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
yeah and anyone who would be mad enough to put 600 DE a piece black air bombs near the edges needs their heads looking at.
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Originally Posted by motionsickness
I think the Seeking Air Mines (mega super black bomb) are very worth their cost; they have saved me multiple times for times when my air defence went down.
Hmmm, I hate to disagree with Daddy ... I rarely do ... please don't tell mommy ;) (ok last time I will use that joke) but ... this is exactly where you should put black air bombs if you are trophy hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
i was actually referring to Air Bombs not Air Seeking Mines in this thread
We got side tracked, but it is useful to think about air seeking mines as well. I think we analyzed the air bombs to death and all agree that you might as well use them because they are so cheap, even for farmers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
Air bombs are absolutely worth it, they are cheap and effective against balloons and minions.Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
Sorry for derailing the thread. ;)
lol yes good point if you are after trophies then I absolutely agree with you, sorry i was thinking from the point of view as a farmer....efficiency and all that.
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Originally Posted by test
Well, thing is that without the air-bombs minions would be the most powerful unit in the game. Or at least very close.Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
And again, use stronger air units to clear the mines first, or attack in waves. It works.
Seeking air mine is worth for their cost, it's save me many time when attacker/revenger come with giants healers combo, healer died before,before she can heal any units ;), btw as farmer I shouldn't use seeking air mines and giants bombs but I love to see at replay when mass clumped archers,goblins,babs R.I.P asap by nearing my giants bomb!Gold and De I have always enough! Specialy when some people revenge or attack me and took from me 2k DE ,that isn't hurt me because when I need DE,I just raise my trophy to 1800-2000 then is easy to earn more then 10k DE per day!
If a seeking air mine saves me 50k gold or elixir, it's worth it. 600 DE isn't really that much considering how rare air attacks are at lower trophy levels where farmers tend to sit. This is especially true now that dragons do splash damage making CC archers less effective against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
It's nice to have them to take out the rare dragon that someone pops out of a clan castle on a revenge against you.
Also, it's way different from the big bomb which gets triggered often and costs a lot of gold which is arguably more valuable than DE anyway.
Fair enough. My farming days are over, but with my second account (which is farming) I would happily trade 50k gold/elix for 600DE, therefore I would have to disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahimi
Not me. DE is mostly worthless for a farmer once they have bought the hero units. The exception to that might be minions, but even then only if they are upgrading a normal barracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by test
well, not really that powerful, im farming at 1800-900 range at the moment and with up against high level buildings it can be difficult to overwhelm them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ActionMonkey
yes i agree on using strong air troops as shield meat for my minions and send them by waves. i've been experimenting on dragons and minions combos for quite a while now, the only problem i see is that the minions tend to move faster than the dragons and they tend to overtake them, thus the meat shield are now the minions intead of the dragons. im starting to think that the minions are more like flying barbs than flying archers due to their short range.
I'm farming up to about 2100 myself. When it slows down to much I just drop to about 1600 and start over again. Been moving up and droping down again quite a few times by now, and it's not like you "have to" use minions to farm those ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by motionsickness
I don't use minions a lot myself, since I like to upgrade my heroes and my DE troops, but I have been attacked by them several times and I played around with them after the update, and splash defenses are the key to surving those attacks without losing at least a large chunk of your resources. Since mortars only target ground troops you'd be left with wiz towers only if not for the air bombs, and that wouldn't be enough, at least not against clever attacks.