No loot unless you get 1 star

So many people will attack and not care about winning as long as they get loot. It sucks when I see a successful defense and yet they get to keep the stolen loot. Why? I won the battle dammit!! Gimmie my loot back! lol.

Even on the other side it feels weird loosing a battle and yet getting to keep what my troops took. Maybe it's just me, but unless I get at least 1 star it just doesn't feel right.

So my idea is that you need to get at least 1 star to keep your loot. This will discourage people leaving their TH's exposed on purpose to get a shield, which has to be one of the dumbest things about CoC. And if you think about it I bet you'll agree. Tons of people intentionally loose battles because it simply doesn't matter, which is pretty horrible in a battle centered game. Well, now it will matter.

Protect your TH effectively and it's the same as having a shield up. Also this has the bonus of eliminating the annoying as hell DE lit hits.

I know this is a big change, but it just makes sense and the only downside I see is the whiners on the forums. There are no whiners here, right? RIGHT?! :)

Edit: There have been a few (very few, actually) helpful suggestions to improve the idea, so I'll add them to the OP:

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0-24%: no loot
25-49: half loot( the precious only apply if twn hall not destroyed)
1 star: same loot
2 star: 1.5 times as much
3 star: two times as much


This will encourage people to try to get more stars (which is the point of the game, have you noticed that SC hates farming) and gain trophies. People can still put thier town hall out, they'd just be losing some more loot. There is a reward for destroying more and a penalty for not destroying much.

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Or another solution: Make the Town Hall contain 1000/2000/5000/25000/50000/1000000/250000/500000/1000000/2000000 loot. Which is filled first, before the storages. This way ppl won't leave town halls outside, no longer a 'cheap' shield.

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Well its part of the game. You have a choice protect loot or trophies, it is hard to do both

If I was on the side of the defender, I would totally agree with you. But if I was the attacker, I wouldn't.

Believe it or not, this morning when I was playing Clash of Clans I was thinking about how if this was actually a true idea, it wouldn't be that good. You see, the problem with your idea is that if this was the case, people would be attacking farmers a lot more because:

1. A guaranteed one star would be granted to them, meaning they can get loot.
2. Now that they have one star, they can go in for the gold and elixir.

It would throw off the balance and, in the end, a lot more people will be going around attacking farmers then they would regular defense bases. Good idea though ;)

lol otherwise the word farming wouldn't exist also everybody would be much higher in trophies as you would never want to lose if it meant no loot

Nathy, I understand your objection, but it's not valid because if they did this there wouldn't be any farmers anymore (or at least no more farming bases). Nobody would put their TH outside anymore, and thats a GOOD thing.

Did you ever stop to think about how dumb it is that so many people do this? Intentionally try to loose? We've all gotten use to it so nobody thinks about it, but c'mon. This is a CLASHING game! And half the players roll over because it just doesn't matter.

Now it will.

Protect your trophies or loot. Pick which one you value more and design your base accordingly.

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Protect your trophies or loot. Pick which one you value more and design your base accordingly.

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Thank you for missing the point entirely.

It is their choice whether they want to protect trophies or loot. This idea will destroy everything that farmers have done for almost two years(current farmer myself, U MAD BRO!?).

So no, it should be the player's choice whether they want to lose a battle or not. Like a general, he must be smart and know when to retreat.

*facepalm* Did you even read my post? You are trying to convince me that keeping your TH outside (ie. farming) is a perfectly valid strategy. Guess what? I AGREE!!!! As the game stands now, yes. Keeping your TH outside works, and this is the problem.

My point is that it SHOULDN'T. Ok? Get the difference? This is a warring game, and yet it's set up in such a way that LOOSING is the GOAL! See how dumb that is? Dear god I hope so.

My idea changes that so that loosing means you LOOSE, and the only way to win is to WIN. Gosh, what a concept!

Yeah, I put my th out side and that's cuz that gives me a free shield for a small price to pay, a few trophies.

Loot or trophies? The decision...

You forget that your magnificent idea is a stomp for lowbie players who can develop so much faster stealing from bases that are impossible to 1*.

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Well its part of the game. You have a choice protect loot or trophies, it is hard to do both

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I agree, just because its a battle game doesn't mean you have to only battle it's about the strategy of getting better and better until you are ready for battle. Being able to get dark elixir with lightning is a strategy that people are willing to spend almost 100k elixir at a time and waiting 1 hr and 30 mins to get. Plus keeping the town hall outside is how people defend their resources, it's just a very very easy strategy of defending it. This game doesn't need to be so much harder than it is, some things in the game need to keep people playing and including myself I have used the lightning strategy and thats how I get Dark Elixir fast so it's basically just a smart part of the game.

(if this gets put in the game)
RIP: Farming
RIP: Collecter raids
RIP: Farming bases and other bases that have storages near the core

Think about if you are the attacker.

If this happens, the Great Clash Depression will start, leaving people with no loot as THEY CAN"T GET IT EASILY!

Let other players play how they want to play.

Lol, to summarise what everyone has said into 1 sentence.


We want to farm and get loot.

I agree completely(almost). Everyone is saying protect trophies or loot, they are basing their arguments entirely on how the game is. And, as the game stands, this is the was the game works. And I find that staying around gold III gives me the most loot. I have gone to crystal but the loot is terrible unless I only use all hogs(until I run out of dark elixir) or gowiwi. The way the game is now, you protect trophies or loot. And if the goal is to gain trophies, why is there no incentive to gaining trophies? You get less loot, you have to use slower training, more expensive armies every time, and for what? You can't upgrade that mortar for trophies. You get a one-time gem bonus, and then it's in your favor to drop trophies (read: lose battles purposely to advance your base). However, even If a win is required to gain loot, farmers can still utilize a trophy base and drop trophies via single archer raids to see bases they can easily star. A remedy to this could be a whole number of options and would constitute at least one more separate thread.

So basically what you're saying is: Let's taking farming, crinkle it up, and toss it into the waste basket.

Something tells me you have a bad base

Ok so when I find an abandoned base with all collectors on the outside and I have my 200 lvl 5 arch I have to get at least 1 star before I get that 450k loot your saying.

That is a stupid idea. There would be so many attacks where you would have earned 300k loot if not both + maybe 400 DE and then you get nothing cause you were 1% off 50%

So many people would stop attacking entirely.

Also a better solution to this would be a defensive win bonus like say they were below you in trophies you still get 5400 resources for winning but for ever 10 trophies they are above you you get another 1000 of both and so forth for for other leagues (that was for gold 3 or 2)

I think what make the game great is there is multiple of way to play it. Some like to protect trophy, some like to 3-stars village some like to snipe townhall, some like to just get loots.

What you want to do is prevent all of those other way to play and only have one gameplay mode the one you like, attacking village to get stars otherwise you get nothing no loot.

Let people play the way they wanted. Don't force us to get stars if we don't want them. Your way of playing is not better than any other they are all valid.

You all should read BoomBangBoi's post, he does a good job of summarizing my position.

Also, this would NOT end farming. You are required to get 1 star, how hard is that? I farm heavily with Barch, and I usually end up with 1 star without even trying. If you can't get 1 star on a base, THEN DON'T ATTACK THAT BASE!!!!!! They are obviously way too strong for you.

As I said in my first post, the only downside to this is that it would generate whining on the forums. And BOY did it ever! lol. This fixes a major flaw in the game in that there is no competitive drive. Seriously, what is the advantage to winning? There isn't one! That is a problem that needs to be addressed.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer games where loosing means you LOOSE, and winning means you WIN. Honestly ask yourself if clash of clans does that.

Sound's like a pretty bad idea. Many problems with it.

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Sound's like a pretty bad idea. Many problems with it.

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Thank you for that wonderfully insightful post. Mind stating one? Because in 23 posts NOBODY has. Other then the usual "But....but this will make the game hard!! WAAAAAAA!!!! I want it easy!"

Yes, it will give the game a challange. Maybe a coloring book is more your speed.

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Thank you for that wonderfully insightful post. Mind stating one? Because in 23 posts NOBODY has. Other then the usual "But....but this will make the game hard!! WAAAAAAA!!!! I want it easy!"

Yes, it will give the game a challange. Maybe a coloring book is more your speed.

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First of all.

YOU have some serious anger issues that need to be addressed.
You are shouting, and arguing with anyone that disproves your idea. So don't complain that a guy with 23 posts is being a whiner. Right now, you are. I don't care what you say.

Grow up, act your age and learn some manners.

To learn how to use the forums properly you have to take constructive criticism, which you are not allowing to happen. So DO NOT say everyone else is the problem, when you are causing the flame.

Second of all.

Its a rubbish idea. It would completely change how the game works, it does not ENCOURAGE losing. Maybe a decrease in loot earned, but you cannot remove it all if you don't 1 star.

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Thank you for that wonderfully insightful post. Mind stating one? Because in 23 posts NOBODY has. Other then the usual "But....but this will make the game hard!! WAAAAAAA!!!! I want it easy!"

Yes, it will give the game a challange. Maybe a coloring book is more your speed.

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I doubt SC wants to aggravate most of their players by implementing this idea.. Yes it will make the game much more difficult when it is already a challenge, so just by knowing this I can tell you (from a business standpoint) that SC will most likely not add this into the game.
You can save the coloring books for your next idea, maybe it will be more practical than this one :)

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First of all.

YOU have some serious anger issues that need to be addressed.
You are shouting, and arguing with anyone that disproves your idea. So don't complain that a guy with 23 posts is being a whiner. Right now, you are. I don't care what you say.

Grow up, act your age and learn some manners.

To learn how to use the forums properly you have to take constructive criticism, which you are not allowing to happen. So DO NOT say everyone else is the problem, when you are causing the flame.

Second of all.

Its a rubbish idea. It would completely change how the game works, it does not ENCOURAGE losing. Maybe a decrease in loot earned, but you cannot remove it all if you don't 1 star.

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Very well put, thank you sir.

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Thank you for that wonderfully insightful post. Mind stating one? Because in 23 posts NOBODY has. Other then the usual "But....but this will make the game hard!! WAAAAAAA!!!! I want it easy!"

Yes, it will give the game a challange. Maybe a coloring book is more your speed.

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This reponse given previously is totally valid and I agree with it. I think the beauty of clash and what makes it such a success is the fact that you can play it in different ways. You can resource farm, you can trophy push, and you can do a mix. Here is that response I'm referreing to:

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I think what make the game great is there is multiple of way to play it. Some like to protect trophy, some like to 3-stars village some like to snipe townhall, some like to just get loots.

What you want to do is prevent all of those other way to play and only have one gameplay mode the one you like, attacking village to get stars otherwise you get nothing no loot.

Let people play the way they wanted. Don't force us to get stars if we don't want them. Your way of playing is not better than any other they are all valid.

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In hardcore farming (to maximize resources per hour), dropping trophies is often the most efficient way, meaning collector raids. A valid strategy if you farm between 1700 and 1900 trophies is to destroy bases for 2-3 stars until you reach your cap, then do collector raids or aim for specific storages/collectors then quit to save time and troops so you can raid again. Do that until you drop back down to 1700, then do the push back up to 1900, then repeat.

People should have the freedom to do stuff like this, and your suggestion limits the ways to play the game, as the response I referred to earlier mentions.

Limiting the ways to play limits the amount of players you can appeal to, limiting your player base, limiting your profits. I believe the game should remain as such, meaning you get what you raid, regardless of how many stars you get.

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Very well put, thank you sir.

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I try, I try :rolleyes:

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First of all.

YOU have some serious anger issues that need to be addressed.
You are shouting, and arguing with anyone that disproves your idea. So don't complain that a guy with 23 posts is being a whiner. Right now, you are. I don't care what you say.

Grow up, act your age and learn some manners.

To learn how to use the forums properly you have to take constructive criticism, which you are not allowing to happen. So DO NOT say everyone else is the problem, when you are causing the flame.

Second of all.

Its a rubbish idea. It would completely change how the game works, it does not ENCOURAGE losing. Maybe a decrease in loot earned, but you cannot remove it all if you don't 1 star.

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This is blunt and it is true.

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This is blunt and it is true.

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I think he gets one stared to often, and people are running with his gold.

But because he is afraid to admit it, he has to flame on a newbie who has less posts than him, saying that HE is the one complaining instead. And because of this, that newbie will go and make sure he one stars everyone, just to ♥♥♥♥ him off, then he will eventually come accross the guys base who made this thread, and 1 star him, then. The guy will throw his device on the floor and it will fall through the floor and kill any people below. Then he goes to jail and tries to break out, and kills a couple more on accident. All because he flamed at a guy with about 40 less posts than him.

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First of all.

YOU have some serious anger issues that need to be addressed.

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Says the guy posting in all red in a very angry and condescending tone of voice. lol.

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I doubt SC wants to aggravate most of their players by implementing this idea.

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Probably the only actual objection to this idea in the entire thread, and it's one I really don't have an answer to. It's also most likely true, just look at how many people are complaining about just the IDEA of making them earn their loot.

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In hardcore farming (to maximize resources per hour), dropping trophies is often the most efficient way, meaning collector raids.

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I agree 100% with this, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Loosing on purpose is a valid strategy in a game that is supposed to be about conflict (it has "clash" in the title). I'll say it again, I feel that loosing means you should LOOSE, and the only way to win is to actually WIN.

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I think he gets one stared to often, and people are running with his gold.

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What?! How stupid are you, did you even read the OP? Lets assume what you said is true. That means you think I'm proposing an idea that would make my situation WORSE!!! If I get 1 starred all the time and just want to whine about it, why would I come up with an idea that would encourage people to 1 star me MORE OFTEN?! Hmm?

I'm just flabbergasted that you would make a post like that and have the arrogance to think you've made some sort of a point. If I'm getting 1 starred all the time then I should be saying you need to TWO STAR people to keep loot, don't ya think? You make zero sense.

The fact is that this game has an incredibly dumb system which encourages people to loose. Requiring 1 star would encourage people to use skill in their attacks and think about their armies they are building. I know, I know, you don't like to think and probably have no skill in raiding outside using lit on DE storages. My bad.

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The fact is that this game has an incredibly dumb system which encourages people to loose. Requiring 1 star would encourage people to use skill in their attacks and think about their armies they are building. I know, I know, you don't like to think and probably have no skill in raiding outside using lit on DE storages. My bad.

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You haven't actually come up with a solution though.
The raised concern (by many) is that this breaks farming

(By farming lets just say getting lots of loot - I like lots of loot)

Unless they fundamentally changed how much loot you can win from a battle, then requiring one star to get loot isn't a good way to make trophies mean something.

The game has been running perfectly fine for nearly two years, with millions of happy customers, I don't think it needs changing.

I prefer to think of it as rather than demanding that you win, you can get a reward from a raid where you lose.

BEAT IT BOY!! Farming is a really widely practiced stratigy in clash of clans. if you don't like it, go play candy crush or something!

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Says the guy posting in all red in a very angry and condescending tone of voice. lol.



Probably the only actual objection to this idea in the entire thread, and it's one I really don't have an answer to. It's also most likely true, just look at how many people are complaining about just the IDEA of making them earn their loot.



I agree 100% with this, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Loosing on purpose is a valid strategy in a game that is supposed to be about conflict (it has "clash" in the title). I'll say it again, I feel that loosing means you should LOOSE, and the only way to win is to actually WIN.



What?! How stupid are you, did you even read the OP? Lets assume what you said is true. That means you think I'm proposing an idea that would make my situation WORSE!!! If I get 1 starred all the time and just want to whine about it, why would I come up with an idea that would encourage people to 1 star me MORE OFTEN?! Hmm?

I'm just flabbergasted that you would make a post like that and have the arrogance to think you've made some sort of a point. If I'm getting 1 starred all the time then I should be saying you need to TWO STAR people to keep loot, don't ya think? You make zero sense.

The fact is that this game has an incredibly dumb system which encourages people to loose. Requiring 1 star would encourage people to use skill in their attacks and think about their armies they are building. I know, I know, you don't like to think and probably have no skill in raiding outside using lit on DE storages. My bad.

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First off everybody is right your idea is honestly bad, I mean farming is a huge part of the game and this would kill it but here's the thing you need to understand that when idea just doesn't catch on it just doesn't catch on, that happend to me I had one of those ideas wasn't really liked and I fought, I fought and I fought but what did I gain nothing, eventually a great poster and a person that oh a lot to for helping me on the forum, "awesomefirebird", told me that when an idea doesn't work just close it Tell people I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions but this hasn't worked so I will not be responding to anymore comments thank you, the idea you put first off isn't good and the forum community doesn't like it, this will give you a bad reputation for future posts if I was you, I would stop this thread and do what I did and what I think you should do, just stop responding and forget about the idea you lose some , you win some. I just think you ain't going to get anything from continuing to fight.

Play boom beach if you want this the only way you get loot is if you win

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Probably the only actual objection to this idea in the entire thread, and it's one I really don't have an answer to. It's also most likely true, just look at how many people are complaining about just the IDEA of making them earn their loot.

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Which is exactly why it won't work. An idea has to be accepted before it is created, and this idea is simply not accepted. Doesn't matter if it "might work," it is a no-go for SC as a business. They could lose customers, which means they lose money.

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I agree 100% with this, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Loosing on purpose is a valid strategy in a game that is supposed to be about conflict (it has "clash" in the title). I'll say it again, I feel that loosing means you should LOOSE, and the only way to win is to actually WIN.

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But when someone get 300k gold and no stars is it really losing? To me, the reason I play this game is to upgrade my base, not try and become one of the top players in the world. Getting 300 gold and losing ~20 trophies is a win for me while gaining 8-31 trophies but getting only 10k gold would be a loss. I would bet that the majority of players would rather get 300k gold than some trophies.

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But when someone get 300k gold and no stars is it really losing? To me, the reason I play this game is to upgrade my base, not try and become one of the top players in the world. Getting 300 gold and losing ~20 trophies is a win for me while gaining 8-31 trophies but getting only 10k gold would be a loss. I would bet that the majority of players would rather get 300k gold than some trophies.

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I agree, I skip bases if I can't get more than about 70k gold and/or elixir. And I don't care about losing the 20 or so trophies as long as I net a nice positive gain in loot.

I only post in read when I think the post/thread I am commenting on is terrible, or requires negativity. It's my way of saying, you have to do better. Look at my posts in the General or off topic, I am posting in the normal colour.

Also. I'm a vampire :rolleyes:

Ok, OP, so your goal is to make farming tougher, to make people "earn their loot" or whatever. Nice. Great. Fantastic. Brilliant idea, nobody's ever complained about people stealing a ton without getting 40% before. We can debate the merits or lack thereof of this idea forever, mostly because you refuse to accept that anyone that doesn't fully agree with you could in fact be correct.

One problem that even you will have trouble getting around is what to do about all the people (myself included) who have farmed maxed or near-maxed bases under the current rules. Do you retroactively rescind our loot? Do you instead make things completely unfair for everyone else? People complained a lot about December's new loot rules, but that's nothing compared to what would happen if you implemented your plan.

Finally, because you don't seem very competent, here's some tips for the future: first, get a better idea. Second, listen to the people who tell you what's wrong with it, because there will be things wrong with it. Third, spelling "losing" as "loosing" makes it seem like you have some connections loose in your brain. Fourth, apostrophes do NOT make things plural. Fifth, antagonizing people in your original post is even worse than having an awful idea. Sixth, saying protecting your th effectively will stop people from getting a star on you is almost as bad as your other ridiculous actions, especially when you apparently use barch. I could go on, but you're not worth my time, and you get the point, I'm (actually not very) sure.

This post is falling into arguing and fighting. Just be done with it! Obviously the idea isn't a good enough one to be added if the only one who wants it added is the original person. I'm sorry, but that's the truth.

The solution is simple.. Make no loot on 0 star, same loot as now on 1 star or more and multiply the current win bonus in all divisions by 5.
Or another solution: Make the Town Hall contain 1000/2000/5000/25000/50000/1000000/250000/500000/1000000/2000000 loot. Which is filled first, before the storages. This way ppl won't leave town halls outside, no longer a 'cheap' shield.

Im confused as to how this would make any difference?

people purely looking for trophies usually snipe and leave so they'd still get their 1 star and the farmer would get his shield.

the lions share of my barching raids cover 50% already so i'd have my 1 star and loot too.

This thread idea is stupid. And I am 100% sure if it was implemented a majority of people would give up on Clash Of Clans. Leaving a ton of bases inactive to gather a ton of loot, only to ♥♥♥♥ YOU off because you keep attacking and failing to get any loot because you suck.

Grow a set and figure out how to play the game and stop whining about someone stole a 100 grand of your precious loot.

Players Attack for Different Reasons - For Trophies, for Loot, for Revenge!! Choosing who to attack is based on opportunity as much as anything else - Putting Restrictions on this would make the game dull.

For some reason you guys are focussed so bad on farming with barch or worse. If you take better troops with you, you can get 50% easy. If you now increase the amount of loot gained by attacking, it will be the same as current situation except there's no such thing as farming with your th outside for cheap shields.

You can get raided for more resources, but you can raid other people for even more.
Nothing changes to barch farming when you get 1* every raid, maybe even more loot if they change victory bonus.

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For some reason you guys are focussed so bad on farming with barch or worse. If you take better troops with you, you can get 50% easy. If you now increase the amount of loot gained by attacking, it will be the same as current situation except there's no such thing as farming with your th outside for cheap shields.

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Because of inordinately long training times! by the time you've cooked your 'better troops' and raided for 75% with a small elixir profit, I've raidied 4-5 times and netted another million or so of G&E.... common sense really!

50% is easy with barch too.

no location of the TH would change that.

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First off everybody is right your idea is honestly bad, I mean farming is a huge part of the game and this would kill it

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Lots of people here have asserted this (and then criticizing me for not just accepting it), and yet no one has actually given any reason WHY this is true. Sorry, but I'm not going to just accept someone's random assertion. Why do you think this would kill farming? I say it would make farming more interesting and fun, as you actually have to use a STRATEGY to attack a base. And it would not kill farming at all, tons of people would still farm, me included.

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this will give you a bad reputation for future posts

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lol. I don't think I can even explain to you how little I would care about that. I think knowing that someone stepped on an ant over in Australia somewhere would bother me more then this.

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We can debate the merits or lack thereof of this idea forever, mostly because you refuse to accept that anyone that doesn't fully agree with you could in fact be correct.

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Not true at all, however I do require someone to have a valid REASON for disagreeing with me, and thus far nearly all of the complaints have been childish whining on the order of "This is dumb" or "I like easy farming, please don't take away my easy farming or I will leave". Make an actual argument, and I will listen to it. Make one without resorting to childish name calling, and I'll respond to it without any childish name calling of my own. Seriously, try it.

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One problem that even you will have trouble getting around is what to do about all the people (myself included) who have farmed maxed or near-maxed bases under the current rules. Do you retroactively rescind our loot?

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Great! Mind telling me what ONE of those things are? Because thus far only Ninja352 has been able to think of one, and if you noticed I acknowledged that it would be a legitimate concern.

The only complaint you've come up with is to point out a typo I made. My bad, and I deeply apologize for the trauma it caused you.

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The solution is simple.. Make no loot on 0 star, same loot as now on 1 star or more and multiply the current win bonus in all divisions by 5.
Or another solution: Make the Town Hall contain 1000/2000/5000/25000/50000/1000000/250000/500000/1000000/2000000 loot. Which is filled first, before the storages. This way ppl won't leave town halls outside, no longer a 'cheap' shield.

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The first idea is just what I said, but I like the alternate solution with the TH containing loot. That would solve this problem also. (See Mr. Scribbler? This is what's called a constructive post, he used his brain. Take notes.)

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This thread idea is stupid. And I am 100% sure if it was implemented a majority of people would give up on Clash Of Clans.

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Thank you for proving my point about the quality (or lack thereof) of the negative posts on my idea. Nearly all of them are about as thoughtful as this one. And you all wonder why I'm not listening to your objections? BECAUSE YOU HAVE YET TO GIVE ANY OBJECTIONS!!

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For some reason you guys are focussed so bad on farming with barch or worse. If you take better troops with you, you can get 50% easy. If you now increase the amount of loot gained by attacking, it will be the same as current situation except there's no such thing as farming with your th outside for cheap shields.

You can get raided for more resources, but you can raid other people for even more.
Nothing changes to barch farming when you get 1* every raid, maybe even more loot if they change victory bonus.

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Thank you for understanding my point.

One glaring fault I see in this is the ability for higher level TH's to effectively shield themselves by hiding in lower cup ranges. A mid TH10 in gold 3, or below, has little to worry about.

On a different end of it, and maybe an extreame example, if that TH10 were feeling generous and left his storages and collectors far away from defenses, way down in TH5 land, those TH5's would have no chance at the free loot, is that acceptable?

Not being toxic or anything, but one star...
Look man. All you want to do is keep your own loot with your "impenetrable" base. This would absolutely RUIN the clash economy. So you're saying- spend two hundred thousand elixer making an army. Fail. DERP I LOST LOOOT!
Also farming is a good thing. You know how many whiners there were when CW came out and there was no TH's to snipe? You know how many would quit clash without those snipes? No. You don't.
Hate this idea. The one time I will allow myself to get angry on a bad idea thread. Sidd signing out.

Okay, I'm one of the few people who actually agrees with the OP. First of all, as he said, this will not kill farming at all. People can still farm, but try to get a star as well. Ans I agree with that person who said to put much more loot in the town hall to make peple more hesitant to leavie it out. Thirdly, I think this would add more of a challenge to the game, and the OP is right in something else. If you are farming, I usually get one star without trying. Just adjust your tactics a bit and it's fine. However, I think no loot is a bit harsh. How about this system:

0-24%: no loot
25-49: half loot( the precious only apply if twn hall not destroyed)
1 star: same loot
2 star: 1.5 times as much
3 star: two times as much


This will encourage people to try to get more stars (which is the point of the game, have you noticed that SC hates farming) and gain trophies. People can still put thier town hall out, they'd just be losing some more loot. There is a reward for destroying more and a penalty for not destroying much.

Another waynis to give a substantial loot bonus and more bonus for more stars.

However, many people are babies and would quit, losing SC's money, so they might no implement this no loot for no stars system.

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There is a reason why people don't protect their TH, it's called farming...

Without farming, no one would have a good base unless they spent tons of REAL money. Plus i have my town hall on the outside to get free shields while my defenses upgrade. If you don't like this, go play clash of lords

No....................

So many people against this. And I admit after reading the title I thought nah! But the OP changed my mind.

I farm and I agree with it. It's a clash battle game. You shouldn't get rewarded with loot if you don't win. I feel so cheap doing a collector raid with a handful of goblins and getting -20%. I do it still, cos it's the way the game works, but I wouldn't cry if this were introduced. I'd just have to make sure I 50% (you can easily 50% collector raids too).

There would still be the trophy pushers who snipe townhalls so my townhall could still remain outside for those cheap shields. So I disagree farming would die. When you get too high in trophies you'd just have to dump trophies with a single barb or your hero and forget about those few cheap goblin raids on the way back down.

You can't disagree it's odd you're still rewarded for losing your clash.

Perhaps not go so extreme and say if you don't 1 star you only get 50% of the loot? Baby steps.

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However, I think no loot is a bit harsh. How about this system:

0-24%: no loot
25-49: half loot( the precious only apply if twn hall not destroyed)
1 star: same loot
2 star: 1.5 times as much
3 star: two times as much

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That seems perfectly reasonable, and a nice upgrade from my original idea. I'll add it to the OP. Thanks!

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Without farming, no one would have a good base unless they spent tons of REAL money. Plus i have my town hall on the outside to get free shields while my defenses upgrade. If you don't like this, go play clash of lords

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I have spent exactly 0 dollars on this game, so your objection fails before it can even start. And just so you know, I too have my TH on the outside of my base. I do it not because it makes sense (it makes zero sense), I do it because it's how the game works. Unfortunately. This is my objection, and the entire point to this thread.

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So many people against this. And I admit after reading the title I thought nah! But the OP changed my mind.

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That's great to hear, thanks! I'm glad you took the time to read what I had to say, thank you for that.

To everyone else, I would like to point out that thus far the few people that agree with me have taken the time to make well thought out, intelligent posts while nearly everyone that disagrees with me does, well..........just read the last few posts. Zero content, and zero thought put into them. Pretty much nothing but name calling. Just going to inform everyone right now that name calling has zero effect on me. Well thought out, rational arguments DO have an effect on me, and so far there has been exactly one disagreement post that qualifies for that (the one from ninja). The rest of you are really sad, to be honest.

But if anyone out there can take the time to think and put together a coherent post on why this is a bad idea, I am willing to listen.

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Says the guy posting in all red in a very angry and condescending tone of voice. lol.



Probably the only actual objection to this idea in the entire thread, and it's one I really don't have an answer to. It's also most likely true, just look at how many people are complaining about just the IDEA of making them earn their loot.



I agree 100% with this, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Loosing on purpose is a valid strategy in a game that is supposed to be about conflict (it has "clash" in the title). I'll say it again, I feel that loosing means you should LOOSE, and the only way to win is to actually WIN.



What?! How stupid are you, did you even read the OP? Lets assume what you said is true. That means you think I'm proposing an idea that would make my situation WORSE!!! If I get 1 starred all the time and just want to whine about it, why would I come up with an idea that would encourage people to 1 star me MORE OFTEN?! Hmm?

I'm just flabbergasted that you would make a post like that and have the arrogance to think you've made some sort of a point. If I'm getting 1 starred all the time then I should be saying you need to TWO STAR people to keep loot, don't ya think? You make zero sense.

The fact is that this game has an incredibly dumb system which encourages people to loose. Requiring 1 star would encourage people to use skill in their attacks and think about their armies they are building. I know, I know, you don't like to think and probably have no skill in raiding outside using lit on DE storages. My bad.

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Why do you keep spelling "lose" as "loose" ?

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0-24%: no loot
25-49: half loot( the precious only apply if twn hall not destroyed)
1 star: same loot
2 star: 1.5 times as much
3 star: two times as much

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Better, but still won't work due to my previous post. More input could make this idea into a good one though. Keep going.

what about the new guys their gonna need that loot even though they don't make a star

Thats an awful idea! I am a farmer at heart and need my loot!!!!!!

When im looking for loot I use 8 giants 50 archers 6 wall breakers and the rest goblins. For a matter of fact I just attacked a guy with that strategy for 208k gold and 135k elixir their base was far worse then mine but i still barely one starred the base because my army was mostly goblins. Luckily one archer stayed out of range of the remaining defenses to destroy the army camps and one of the barracks which gave me 57%. In an earlier attack I got 44% with 257k gold and 280k elixir. What would I use goblins for if I would expect that they are a weaker troop so I will lose more often. They specifically target resources but i dont get the resources. Goblins would be rendered useless.

Edit: Also you should know if your idea is good or bad by how people react to it at the beginning. When I suggested the "Grim Reaper" which basically was supposed to do exactly what the witch does. I suggested it before the witch was in game by the way. I took the constructive criticism and slowly made its stats not totally op like when I first created it. Don't be mad when people dont like your idea instead make tiny changes until both sides can agree with the idea.

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(if this gets put in the game)
RIP: Farming
RIP: Collecter raids
RIP: Farming bases and other bases that have storages near the core

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Also:
R.I.P: Peace and tranquility to the forums

This would eliminate farming. Players should have a choice weather to go for loot or trophies.

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I took the constructive criticism

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I actually take constructive criticism perfectly well. Where exactly in this thread is the constructive criticism again? Oh thats right, there is none. So far I've failed to find any, though I suppose your post would count. So after 7 pages ONE post has constructive criticism in it. lol. And guess what? I'll respond to it rationally since you made it rationally.

You said that you got 57% on the one raid, which means you had nothing to worry about there. The other raid you got 44% and are correct, would fail. I believe I already implied that attack strategies would have to change, so you probably wouldn't want to go with a mostly goblin attack. You'd need to put some stronger units in, and save a few goblins for the end.

Your strategy is basically like someone grabbing a wad of cash out of a casino register and trying to run out the door. Should that really work? Think of it from the defenders point of view, he won his defense and beat you. How is it fair to him that you got to keep 200k of his loot when he won?

Also remember that with the updated idea you'd still keep a portion of the loot even on the 44% one.

This. Is. A. Terrible. Idea. I'm sorry dude, just accept it. You are the only person on these forums that thinks this would be good. Accept that. I'm tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again. I'm sorry for my negativity, but please :(

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This. Is. A. Terrible. Idea. I'm sorry dude, just accept it. You are the only person on these forums that thinks this would be good. Accept that. I'm tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again. I'm sorry for my negativity, but please :(

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Umm... Yeah. Sometimes you have to realise this.

But he ain't the ONLY person? Even I can kind dozens of arguments for this idea!

1) Fair to the defender
2) logical
3) Boosts the meaning of the game

etc. etc. Farming shouldn't really actually exist if this game is played properly.

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Farming shouldn't really actually exist if this game is played properly.

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Is the game not played properly?



Btw, in the honor of this thread I just got 47% in a raid but made 200k gold and elixir :)

Your idea is actually bad in its basics; but, it can be great if you thought about it more. I have read the entire thread and noticed one post that would actually semi work. That idea was the defensive win bonus idea, but even that has to be modified.. The best solution I can come up with would be to have it so if you get below 25% then you still get the loot, but you get a penalty for not getting a full star, I.e. you might get 50% less loot than you would if you didn't. This would still make some people quit, but the amount would be way less than your original idea.

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Your idea is actually bad in its basics; but, it can be great if you thought about it more. I have read the entire thread and noticed one post that would actually semi work. That idea was the defensive win bonus idea, but even that has to be modified.. The best solution I can come up with would be to have it so if you get below 25% then you still get the loot, but you get a penalty for not getting a full star, I.e. you might get 50% less loot than you would if you didn't. This would sill make some people quit, but the amount would be way less than your original idea.

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People just joining the game would still be screwed with this idea, although it is better than the original.

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People just joining the game would still be screwed with this idea, although it is better than the original.

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I don't see how new players would be "screwed" by this.. A new player could still get a substantial amount of resources even with this implementation, but.. it would indeed be harder.. that I will admit. I guess I will have to think about that part more.. Although, it would encourage trophy pushing, strategy developments, and joining a clan for the lower levels which would get them more loot to upgrade their buildings.

I hate this idea. It would make kind of eliminate farming. Why do you oppose having town hall outside? Outside town halls provide a way for lower town halls to push trophies, and gives them a somewhat fair chance to get into the league they always wanted to go to.
This would also make it very hard to farm dark elixir, as often when i farm dark, i only get like 40% and the dark storage. Implementing this system would make defense overpowered and give farmers no chance to get loot from higher town halls.

This will lead to

1:Pissing off farmers

2:♥♥♥♥ people off in general

If i made a whole army of wizards and went for the loot i used over 100 000 elixir and lost i still deserve the loot..For wasting that much time for my i wizards to train up then i deserve that loot i took from you.

Bottom line is protect you loot thats it..

Im not gonna have to get a 1 star just to get my loot

I like your idea a lot!

My biggest issue right now is that I will be trying to save up resources and then someone will attack only stealing resources. Not getting any stars. So my shield doesn't activate, and then someone else comes along and steals more. It's a pain in the butt! Because I can't ever save up enough to buy anything new.

In my issue, at the very least, I think it would be nice to make the shield pop up based on how much percentage of your resources you lose. Not based on your base's destruction. Because there's nothing, besides resources, that your losing when your base is destroyed. So what is the point of putting up a shield for 12 hours to regain the lost resources, if in 12 hours I can't even make up the x number of resources I lost.

Maybe, I'm missing the point here. But I do like your idea about they have to destroy a certain percentage of your base to keep a certain percentage of the recourses.

One question though, would the extra percentage come from the defender or from game cash?

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I like your idea a lot!

My biggest issue right now is that I will be trying to save up resources and then someone will attack only stealing resources. Not getting any stars. So my shield doesn't activate, and then someone else comes along and steals more. It's a pain in the butt! Because I can't ever save up enough to buy anything new.

In my issue, at the very least, I think it would be nice to make the shield pop up based on how much percentage of your resources you lose. Not based on your base's destruction. Because there's nothing, besides resources, that your losing when your base is destroyed. So what is the point of putting up a shield for 12 hours to regain the lost resources, if in 12 hours I can't even make up the x number of resources I lost.

Maybe, I'm missing the point here. But I do like your idea about they have to destroy a certain percentage of your base to keep a certain percentage of the recourses.

One question though, would the extra percentage come from the defender or from game cash?

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Maybe you should lower your trophies

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This. Is. A. Terrible. Idea. I'm sorry dude, just accept it. You are the only person on these forums that thinks this would be good.

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You have obviously not read this thread at all, because you missed the numerous people that agree with me. And then you claim I'm the "only" person that likes this idea, which makes you an idiot.

Also you missed the several times I mentioned how posts like yours with no content show that you have no objection, and demonstrate zero thought. You are just whining.

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This will lead to

1:Pissing off farmers

2:♥♥♥♥ people off in general

If i made a whole army of wizards and went for the loot i used over 100 000 elixir and lost i still deserve the loot..For wasting that much time for my i wizards to train up then i deserve that loot i took from you.

Bottom line is protect you loot thats it..

Im not gonna have to get a 1 star just to get my loot

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Yes, it will ♥♥♥♥ people off. So? Winning my defense and still loosing resources pisses me off.

If you make a whole army of wizards and still loose, then no you don't deserve anything. YOU LOST. You either need a better strategy, or need to pick easier targets. Why does it matter how much you spend if your epic army still gets it's butt kicked? How is it the defenders fault for your crappy strategy?

Also something I brought up a while ago but no one has commented on is that this would eliminate DE lightning raids. They are pathetic and need to die, and this would effectively kill it.

So my troops will be like "we looted 200k! Yay!!! But wait we lost! Let's return all this loot back!"
huh??

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So my troops will be like "we looted 200k! Yay!!! But wait we lost! Let's return all this loot back!"
huh??

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yes, that is what he is saying. Change your strategy to get 50% or the town hall.

You act like we don't earn our loot. We don't just put down a barbarian and earn hundreds of thousands of loot, we earn it by smashing your collectors and storages with some of the hardest to pull of strategies. If you want to keep your loot protect it better instead of focusing on your trophies so much.

FARMERS UNITE!!

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Originally Posted by Bulldog241

Says the guy posting in all red in a very angry and condescending tone of voice. lol.



Probably the only actual objection to this idea in the entire thread, and it's one I really don't have an answer to. It's also most likely true, just look at how many people are complaining about just the IDEA of making them earn their loot.



I agree 100% with this, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Loosing on purpose is a valid strategy in a game that is supposed to be about conflict (it has "clash" in the title). I'll say it again, I feel that loosing means you should LOOSE, and the only way to win is to actually WIN.



What?! How stupid are you, did you even read the OP? Lets assume what you said is true. That means you think I'm proposing an idea that would make my situation WORSE!!! If I get 1 starred all the time and just want to whine about it, why would I come up with an idea that would encourage people to 1 star me MORE OFTEN?! Hmm?

I'm just flabbergasted that you would make a post like that and have the arrogance to think you've made some sort of a point. If I'm getting 1 starred all the time then I should be saying you need to TWO STAR people to keep loot, don't ya think? You make zero sense.

The fact is that this game has an incredibly dumb system which encourages people to loose. Requiring 1 star would encourage people to use skill in their attacks and think about their armies they are building. I know, I know, you don't like to think and probably have no skill in raiding outside using lit on DE storages. My bad.

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That seems perfectly reasonable, and a nice upgrade from my original idea. I'll add it to the OP. Thanks!




I have spent exactly 0 dollars on this game, so your objection fails before it can even start. And just so you know, I too have my TH on the outside of my base. I do it not because it makes sense (it makes zero sense), I do it because it's how the game works. Unfortunately. This is my objection, and the entire point to this thread.



That's great to hear, thanks! I'm glad you took the time to read what I had to say, thank you for that.

To everyone else, I would like to point out that thus far the few people that agree with me have taken the time to make well thought out, intelligent posts while nearly everyone that disagrees with me does, well..........just read the last few posts. Zero content, and zero thought put into them. Pretty much nothing but name calling. Just going to inform everyone right now that name calling has zero effect on me. Well thought out, rational arguments DO have an effect on me, and so far there has been exactly one disagreement post that qualifies for that (the one from ninja). The rest of you are really sad, to be honest.

But if anyone out there can take the time to think and put together a coherent post on why this is a bad idea, I am willing to listen.

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You just don't get it man it would KILL FARMING! How you may ask, simple little thing called collector raids, get the loot get out, if this got added that would pretty much die, since you can't get to 50 percent also, why don't you think of it like this, you are using a farming army when you farm, its supposed cheap to make, fast to make, and effective to get LOOT, not win trophies, that's what you don't get if I wanted to win trophies i would use my regular army and win, but with my farming army sometimes i win or lose but all that matters is the loot. When you farm you don't care about winning at all, just loot, this would either kill farming or change it for the worse forever.

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You act like we don't earn our loot. We don't just put down a barbarian and earn hundreds of thousands of loot, we earn it by smashing your collectors and storages with some of the hardest to pull of strategies. If you want to keep your loot protect it better instead of focusing on your trophies so much.

FARMERS UNITE!!

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Perfect way to sum up our concerns

"2 star: 1.5 times as much
3 star: two times as much"
Stupid idea right there... I can attack a TH8 (I am TH9) for 180k gold and 3 star em with loonian. According to that I could get 540k gold in one raid. Thats absolutely ridiculous

Horrible idea 😐

I seriously don't get something

firstly, is getting 1 star really that hard? so hard you got to bombard the man with words like "Farmers Unite?"

Secondly, Like previously stated, you say its bad, but what is? do state an example or a reason to make it more convincing please farmers.

but then again, I guess it takes all sorts to make up the world, I'm not going to start hugging the swear bear like some of you did, but do take my comments into consideration before posting yet another rage msg(looking at you Davidbeit). at least make sure its insightful.

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firstly, is getting 1 star really that hard?

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That is a relative question. It all depends on the base you are trying to raid.

Maxed th 9 base? Nah, that's not hard at all. A level 15 Bronze could get 1 star from that base right? Of course, because getting one star is a summer breeze.

Relative, you see.

I see what your getting at, however clash of clansis a stratgy game no matter how you look at it right? Well as much as I hate to say it the thing is most people at low levls who farm are saying "trophies domt do ♥♥♥♥ for me so I will protect important stuff instead." Unfortanatley, they are right. Unless your competing in a top clan trophies realisticly mean nothi g other then matchmaking. And in a game of stratagy this is very often the case. Now back to what I was saying earlier in a game of stratagy you must use...well stratagies. Farming is stratagy is it not. I really want to agree with you but I simply know that this cant happen. Supercell has always stated that they always will use the stars for bonus loot and trophies. Nothing more. And for two those farmers still must get too the storages using as much effort as it may even use too get the 1st star . I love the idea but just cant support it. Thx for reading my lenchthy post.

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That is a relative question. It all depends on the base you are trying to raid.

Maxed th 9 base? Nah, that's not hard at all. A level 15 Bronze could get 1 star from that base right? Of course, because getting one star is a summer breeze.

Relative, you see.

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Jokes aside, that actually happened. when I was in bronze, a farmer with a lvl 9 TH actually attacked me, and I took down his town hall in a revenge. but now that I think about it, I know that farming is meant to get you resources from weaker players, but seriously?

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Jokes aside, that actually happened. when I was in bronze, a farmer with a lvl 9 TH actually attacked me, and I took down his town hall in a revenge. but now that I think about it, I know that farming is meant to get you resources from weaker players, but seriously?

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Yes I have experienced that as well haha. In return, I have gotten a lot of loot from th 8-10 at my lower levels. It helped me upgrade a lot of my base and I would bet the same goes for many other people.
You may lose trophies, oh well. Those are easy to get back. The loot however, not so much. That is why the OP idea will aggravate farmers and most of everyone else.

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Yes I have experienced that as well haha. In return, I have gotten a lot of loot from th 8-10 at my lower levels. It helped me upgrade a lot of my base and I would bet the same goes for many other people.
You may lose trophies, oh well. Those are easy to get back. The loot however, not so much. That is why the OP idea will aggravate farmers and most of everyone else.

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Perhaps there can be another system that would feature perks for those who aced their attacks, but not directly interfere with the current trophy system, such as boosted production rate when achieving a certain amount of wins. I'll be frank, you have a good point

I shudder to think what would happen if Bulldog became the president of the US or a large stock trader...

farmers would be killed

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This literally took the words right out of my brain...

Bulldog this is by far the worst idea i have ever heard in my whole life, not just coc. Ok so your saying that putting your th outside is trying to lose right, but why are they putting it outside, idiot, SO THEY CAN WIN!!! They are putting their th outside so they can get more loot so they can win. What is the point of farming? getting loot to improve your base so you can win, farmers dont loose, they are the real winners, because in three weeks of farming, a th7 can make its way up to a gold 1, or maybe even a crystal...And why would you have no loot if you got no stars. What were goblins even made for then? Goblins are meant to get loot...goblins would lose all of their value if you have no loot for no stars. Say someone is doing a mass goblin raid with a few giants and archers....chances are you wont win, but the point was to score loot! But if you go by ur idea, then why even train goblins if your going to lose anyways, so why not just take goblins outta the WHOLE DAMN GAME!!!This post really makes we wonder what the next generation will be like, faith in CoC players: LOST


Plz find a psychiatrist and schedule a few appointments, do a favor for us all.

This idea reeks of "good for me" but fails to understand that it is dependent on "as long as nobody else gets it". Horrible idea on a very basic level and horrible for the game.

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You have obviously not read this thread at all, because you missed the numerous people that agree with me. And then you claim I'm the "only" person that likes this idea, which makes you an idiot.

Also you missed the several times I mentioned how posts like yours with no content show that you have no objection, and demonstrate zero thought. You are just whining.




Yes, it will ♥♥♥♥ people off. So? Winning my defense and still loosing resources pisses me off.

If you make a whole army of wizards and still loose, then no you don't deserve anything. YOU LOST. You either need a better strategy, or need to pick easier targets. Why does it matter how much you spend if your epic army still gets it's butt kicked? How is it the defenders fault for your crappy strategy?

Also something I brought up a while ago but no one has commented on is that this would eliminate DE lightning raids. They are pathetic and need to die, and this would effectively kill it.

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I just read "I want this game to be the way I want, because I like challenges, and everyone has to agree with me, otherwise they are whiners. Oh, and if you think I'm wrong, you're stupid".

Your idea is one of the worse because of many reasons. But IMO, the most important is that players should be able to use the strategy they like the most. If you like challenges, get on a higher league, attack players with a higher level than you on a war, or just go play something else.

You know, you shouldn't even play Clash then, cuz everyone else(almost) likes Clash the way it is, so go play Boom Beach. Or even create your own Clash clone.

If people weren't farmers in Coc, then nothing or little things would be built. Just like in real life. If there were still mostly hunters and gatherers, we wouldn't have all these things today.

Well I'm one of the people who farm sooooooo..... Yeeeeaaaahhhh:rolleyes:

ARE YOU INSANE MAN this would destroy farming and rip up clash of clans

I can't believe this is even a thread... 68% of the CoC community are farmers. Without us farmers CoC would be dead.