I know this has been requested often, but...

Its time to introduce what we've all been waiting for to clash of clans: DEFENSE BONUS! And (slightly) increased win bonuses, but thats not much compared to defense bonus.

So yeah i know this has been requested many times, but... Well im a farmer so im not very competitive, but i do attack every day when my sheilds are down with an army of 15 giants 1 healer 11 goblins 40 archers and 30 barbarians. The twist: i raid with an emergency dragon. Now since im a farmer i mainly go for loot, right? But since i raid every now and then im just going for trophies, but end up losing elixir. Now i get frustrated because i was so close to my (troop) upgrade and then i end up losing 50k elixir, so why not increase win bonuses? That would put us farmers into a steady position, and help the more competitive people with their lack of resources. And defense bonuses? I know what you're thinking. It won't do anything to help farmers. Actually it would, some people deploy single troops to drop trophies, and its actually going to help in a way, and yet again it will help the pushers with their loot.

Now th7 should be able to get a bit more DE than the others so they can get their first hero faster, am i right? I mean not alot more, but it would also add like a +10 DE bonus than the other leagues starting at silver3, so s3= 10DE, s2= 20DE, s1= 30 DE, and so on. Now the other th lvls dont get the extra bonus, therefore preventing most th rushers and actually helping them instead of killing their loot winnings for people with 5 th lvls lower than them. So idk really what the bonus for the other loot is gonna be, but extra elixir is a must.

Defense bonuses? We're you thinking i forgot them? Wrong. The defense bonuses will help everybody just like better win bonuses, but make people determined to upgrade their walls and defenses, not just camps barracks and labs. The defense bonuses will give you 50% of the bonus that your league provides you when attacking, so its fair and can make people more strategic in a way, instead of having the top players being bad role models for newbies and putting storages outside their walls, same thing with defenses.

Now i dont know what you're thinking about this but im thinking "wow this is awesome, i hope nobody hates it because i took a half-hour to make this", but anyways if you like this idea please tell me in the comments below or vote on the poll, you decide, and somebody please join my clan. Link here 👉 http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...akers%21%21%21

Oh and another thought to supercell: whenever im in a clan war my clan ends up losing, and i only get about 28k resources, although it would cost me roughly 200k elixir to raid twice, not including spells. Now i get frustrated because
1) i end up losing 180k elixir, putting me that much further from an upgrade
2) my clan doesnt earn a victory on the stats making us overall less attractive as everybody's fishing wins and were losing. Either increase the loss bonus, or i stop doing clan wars. You choose.

The whole point of raiding others bases is to grab resources. But if you have defense bonus it means you pretty much wont even lose that much resource. Therefore it makes the game too easy to accomplish

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Originally Posted by CheifVait

The whole point of raiding others bases is to grab resources. But if you have defense bonus it means you pretty much wont even lose that much resource. Therefore it makes the game too easy to accomplish

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Its successful win bonus. And plus even if it was unsuccessful win bonus you could still lose hundreds of thousands of loot and only get a few thousand back. Dude, think about it.

This is ruled out.

The defense bonus is that you keep some of your resources and/or trophies

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Originally Posted by mtommy2597

This is ruled out.

The defense bonus is that you keep some of your resources and/or trophies

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Where does it say that it's ruled out?

Feedback wanted

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Originally Posted by 966souchou

Where does it say that it's ruled out?

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Totally thought it was ruled out at some point. Sorry about that

Where would your war loot come from?

Attacking armies aren't going to be carrying all that gold and elixer with them into battle!

As someone said! Your defense win bonus is that you didn't get wiped out of all your loot!


And I hate it when a thread starts off as "I know this has been requested before"

Its basically saying "I saw all the different thread on this, but I thought I was special enough to start my own thread!"

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Where would your war loot come from? Clan wars, what else?

Attacking armies aren't going to be carrying all that gold and elixer with them into battle!

As someone said! Your defense win bonus is that you didn't get wiped out of all your loot! But that isnt a reward, is it?


And I hate it when a thread starts off as "I know this has been requested before"

Its basically saying "I saw all the different thread on this, but I thought I was special enough to start my own thread!" not to me it doesn't mean that. To me it means ive seen different threads on the same topic but werent quite good, so im making my own and making it better

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Next time stop and think about what youre typing before you criticize because you might not be all that correct.

Sorry mate, I like your idea, but I think that DE bonus at silver in order to get BK, would mean less people gemming their barb king, and you know how many people gem their barb king! Thanks for contributing to this forum and Clash On!

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Originally Posted by CHILIDAWG343

Next time stop and think about what youre typing before you criticize because you might not be all that correct.

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you're not making it better, you have the same central idea of the other threads. this just annoys people.
this idea is horrible as to you people just want loot, to the point where you want loot when you win a defense, not losing all of your loot is already enough.

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Originally Posted by CHILIDAWG343

Next time stop and think about what youre typing before you criticize because you might not be all that correct.

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You didn't actually prove me incorrect. Loot is based on what someone has for you to steal. When I'm raiding you, why would you gain anything from me if I lose?

And I don't know aboutyou, but when I have 300k of each elixer and gold each available, and someone raids me and fails to take more than a few thousand of each, I count that as a resounding victory. I'll take that and a free shield as my reward.

Of course YOU don't see it that way since you were the arrogant one to have seen ALL of those posts and decided YOUR idea was worthy of its own thread, which we've discovered was not....

I, for one like this idea.
When farming, if we win, trophies don't mean anything as a reward.. I think, if you win a defense, their loot bonus is given to you, since they lost and therefore did not receive a loot bonus.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

You didn't actually prove me incorrect. Loot is based on what someone has for you to steal. When I'm raiding you, why would you gain anything from me if I lose? Because it actually makes people more strategic in not just attacking, but defending too. Proven wrong once again eh?

And I don't know aboutyou, but when I have 300k of each elixer and gold each available, and someone raids me and fails to take more than a few thousand of each, I count that as a resounding victory. I'll take that and a free shield as my reward. Yeah, a sheild can be great, but not super good when you wanna feel the thrill of attacking without breaking your shield, and you can't get past your next goblin mission

Of course YOU don't see it that way since you were the arrogant one to have seen ALL of those posts and decided YOUR idea was worthy of its own thread, which we've discovered was not...I cant really tell, but im pretty sure everything youre saying isnt constructive criticism, its just criticism, and if you keep it up it will eventually become bullying. Cyberbullying is a crime, you know.

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Actually, you can be proven wrong. You win a defense, you get more loot and trophies, therefore making you a better target to others.
Oh and as arrogant you think i am, im not. Now stop lying and play clash of clans, kid.

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Originally Posted by PNaT

you're not making it better, you have the same central idea of the other threads. this just annoys people.
this idea is horrible as to you people just want loot, to the point where you want loot when you win a defense, not losing all of your loot is already enough.

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Like i said, You win a defense, you get more loot and trophies, therefore making you a better target to others. if you want you can think it over or burn it into your hand with a magic pen, i dont care. Just use that thing sitting inside our skull that we humans call a brain next time.

Oh and sorry if what im saying is offensive, just trying to make a point in the world we know of as Clash of Clans.

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Originally Posted by johnnybro1234

Sorry mate, I like your idea, but I think that DE bonus at silver in order to get BK, would mean less people gemming their barb king, and you know how many people gem their barb king! Thanks for contributing to this forum and Clash On!

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Yeah but most people dont even buy gems so this is just to make everything easier for them

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:P i hope this gets implemented

you have my full support

The idea is definitely interesting, but I feel that a defensive win bonus would make the game super unbalanced. The loot (For me anyways) is EXTREMELY balanced, if you find that as a farmer you can't get enough loot per attack then just switch up your trophy level. And my thoughts on the dark elixir bonus, it isn't needed. Think of the Barb King as a well deserved reward for your hard work, like it currently is now. Just because we obtain a new Town Hall level shouldn't mean we get a crutch for obtaining a reward. Lets say that I get Town Hall 8 and I want to 3-star the Gold Grab, I shouldn't get an increase in the amount of gold I get from each base because you need to earn the achievement, not get babied for it.

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Originally Posted by DumasRBeast

The idea is definitely interesting, but I feel that a defensive win bonus would make the game super unbalanced. The loot (For me anyways) is EXTREMELY balanced, if you find that as a farmer you can't get enough loot per attack then just switch up your trophy level. And my thoughts on the dark elixir bonus, it isn't needed. Think of the Barb King as a well deserved reward for your hard work, like it currently is now. Just because we obtain a new Town Hall level shouldn't mean we get a crutch for obtaining a reward. Lets say that I get Town Hall 8 and I want to 3-star the Gold Grab, I shouldn't get an increase in the amount of gold I get from each base because you need to earn the achievement, not get babied for it.

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Well first of all i said nothing about giving th8 a gold boost. 2nd of all, the bonus is 10 dark elixir. 3rd of all, defense bonus is to make people think as much with their bases than they do attacking, because pushers that I often see have no knowledge of keeping resources safe, except for good clan castle troops.

EDIT: oh and also 4th of all switching up the trophy level not only gives you more loot but it makes the enemy bases harder to penetrate even the outer wall.

1) You are already going to rub people the wrong way with the title you chose. For reasons mentioned, it is annoying to see that someone fully well knows they are repeating an idea that many of us have already given our opinion on. As a suggestion, they way you could have phrased your title to make it more appealing to all audiences could have been something like "A fresh and improved take on the defensive bonus idea".

2) I'll be clear that I personally am not an advocate for your idea. I feel that if/when you lose a lot of resources in a raid, you got what was coming to you. It's nothing personal, it's just raiding. It's a wake up call for you to tweak your base as necessary and each big attack against you gives you great insight into your base weaknesses. I see the elixir you lost as the cost for this lesson.

3) As a farmer, your TH should be outside in a corner surrounded by decorations to maximize the chance of a TH sniper to hit your base. If your free TH is often being ignored and they more often go for your resources still, you are probably a) too premature in your defenses (including walls, since strong walls are intimidating) relative to your TH level, or b) your trophies are too high. Also, as a farmer, you should easily be able to raid much more than you lose.

4) If you get a defensive win bonus, that means it's coming out of SC's pocket, right? SC will not likely accept your idea of generating more free loot to throw into the game economy out of thin air. That's what collectors are already for. It would be overpowered in my opinion. This extra loot will result in easier leveling/upgrading for players as a whole, meaning less gems purchased. Any change resulting in less gem usage is a red flag to SC.

5) I think the BK should be hard to get and to level at TH7. I don't think it needs to be made any easier by giving more DE bonus for TH7 players. Challenges are what make games more fun and rewarding.

6) it's against forum rules to recruit for your clan anywhere but the "clan talk" sub forum.

7) Depending on the cost of the troops you use in clan wars, 1 war win can often make up the cost of 3 war losses. So if your clan is winning more than 25% of the time, you are at least breaking even. If you are not winning more than 25% of the time, you should communicate with your clan to find ways to improve, or join a new stronger clan.

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Originally Posted by hawdog

1) You are already going to rub people the wrong way with the title you chose. For reasons mentioned, it is annoying to see that someone fully well knows they are repeating an idea that many of us have already given our opinion on. As a suggestion, they way you could have phrased your title to make it more appealing to all audiences could have been something like "A fresh and improved take on the defensive bonus idea".

2) I'll be clear that I personally am not an advocate for your idea. I feel that if/when you lose a lot of resources in a raid, you got what was coming to you. It's nothing personal, it's just raiding. It's a wake up call for you to tweak your base as necessary and each big attack against you gives you great insight into your base weaknesses. I see the elixir you lost as the cost for this lesson. If you lose a defense, you know what to tweak. If you win, you can reach a special upgrade faster. Its a win either way.

3) As a farmer, your TH should be outside in a corner surrounded by decorations to maximize the chance of a TH sniper to hit your base. If your free TH is often being ignored and they more often go for your resources still, you are probably a) too premature in your defenses (including walls, since strong walls are intimidating) relative to your TH level, or b) your trophies are too high. Also, as a farmer, you should easily be able to raid much more than you lose.

4) If you get a defensive win bonus, that means it's coming out of SC's pocket, right? SC will not likely accept your idea of generating more free loot to throw into the game economy out of thin air. That's what collectors are already for. It would be overpowered in my opinion. This extra loot will result in easier leveling/upgrading for players as a whole, meaning less gems purchased. Any change resulting in less gem usage is a red flag to SC. The win bonus is barely anything, like say youre a th10 in champ, who normally has 1.5m of each resource (except for DE), somebody raids you and fails. You only get 90k gold and elixir and 400 DE. Thats nothing. Its simply just to make people feel proud on designing their base well.

5) I think the BK should be hard to get and to level at TH7. I don't think it needs to be made any easier by giving more DE bonus for TH7 players. Challenges are what make games more fun and rewarding. is 10 DE really a "big" reward? In my opinion it isnt, its more just to stop th rushers from pushing to th10 and killing their loot from other people.

6) it's against forum rules to recruit for your clan anywhere but the "clan talk" sub forum.

7) Depending on the cost of the troops you use in clan wars, 1 war win can often make up the cost of 3 war losses. So if your clan is winning more than 25% of the time, you are at least breaking even. If you are not winning more than 25% of the time, you should communicate with your clan to find ways to improve, or join a new stronger clan.

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Hey, if you read this it could help you think harder.

http://forum.supercell.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by hawdog http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
1) You are already going to rub people the wrong way with the title you chose. For reasons mentioned, it is annoying to see that someone fully well knows they are repeating an idea that many of us have already given our opinion on. As a suggestion, they way you could have phrased your title to make it more appealing to all audiences could have been something like "A fresh and improved take on the defensive bonus idea". No comment means I'm right.

2) I'll be clear that I personally am not an advocate for your idea. I feel that if/when you lose a lot of resources in a raid, you got what was coming to you. It's nothing personal, it's just raiding. It's a wake up call for you to tweak your base as necessary and each big attack against you gives you great insight into your base weaknesses. I see the elixir you lost as the cost for this lesson. If you lose a defense, you know what to tweak. If you win, you can reach a special upgrade faster. Its a win either way. A defense won simply means they didn't get your TH or 50% of your base, but they could still get two of your gold storages and your DE storage possibly. Would you still consider that a win? You wouldn't try to tweak after those results? YOU are the one that got raided, it makes NO SENSE that you get resources back from SC. If YOU raid someone, you get what you raid. If you GET raided, you lose what got looted from you. It's not a win for SC to donate additional free resources. You're the one not thinking.

3) As a farmer, your TH should be outside in a corner surrounded by decorations to maximize the chance of a TH sniper to hit your base. If your free TH is often being ignored and they more often go for your resources still, you are probably a) too premature in your defenses (including walls, since strong walls are intimidating) relative to your TH level, or b) your trophies are too high. Also, as a farmer, you should easily be able to raid much more than you lose. No comment means I'm right.

4) If you get a defensive win bonus, that means it's coming out of SC's pocket, right? SC will not likely accept your idea of generating more free loot to throw into the game economy out of thin air. That's what collectors are already for. It would be overpowered in my opinion. This extra loot will result in easier leveling/upgrading for players as a whole, meaning less gems purchased. Any change resulting in less gem usage is a red flag to SC.The win bonus is barely anything, like say youre a th10 in champ, who normally has 1.5m of each resource (except for DE), somebody raids you and fails. You only get 90k gold and elixir and 400 DE. Thats nothing. Its simply just to make people feel proud on designing their base well. Most people in champions league don't care about loot! It's like giving someone a fork to eat soup with. What makes them feel proud that they designed a base well is the TROPHIES they won and the ZERO stars the attacker earned. It's all about trophies in champions. THINK.

5) I think the BK should be hard to get and to level at TH7. I don't think it needs to be made any easier by giving more DE bonus for TH7 players. Challenges are what make games more fun and rewarding. is 10 DE really a "big" reward? In my opinion it isnt, its more just to stop th rushers from pushing to th10 and killing their loot from other people. Exactly, it's not much at all. Which is why it's not worth giving out in the first place. That means the game is fine as-is, without your suggestion. If a player wants to rush their TH, 10 DE per defensive win isn't going to stop them. You're not thinking.

6) it's against forum rules to recruit for your clan anywhere but the "clan talk" sub forum. No comment means I'm right.

7) Depending on the cost of the troops you use in clan wars, 1 war win can often make up the cost of 3 war losses. So if your clan is winning more than 25% of the time, you are at least breaking even. If you are not winning more than 25% of the time, you should communicate with your clan to find ways to improve, or join a new stronger clan. No comment means I'm right.

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Originally Posted by CHILIDAWG343

Hey, if you read this it could help you think harder.

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Read the RED text above. Honestly, what is your problem Chilidawg? I, as well as some others, have given you good constructive feedback with logical explanations to support our claims. You need to get off your high horse and consider that some people might know better than you. While you keep "thinking hard", I'm thinking smarter. I'm making more sense than you are.

This game does not need any more handouts, and a defensive bonus, however big or small, is a handout. Smart raiders are already rewarded through their patience and strategy.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...1-Read-Plz-%21

Here is my idea to defense and loot