Embarking on a journey to lvl 40 Heroes - Care to join me?

On May 10th I finally decided to make a commitment to my neglected Heroes. We sat down and had a long talk and both my AQ and BK decided that they would feel much better about themselves if they were lvl 40 vs. their current lvl 10.
So, I recruited two builders, Archie and Bing, who agreed to work full time until they were upgraded and the journey began.

I've been going at it for a couple weeks now and I know there are a lot of you out there who want to work on your heroes as well, so I thought I'd throw an invite out and see if anyone cares to join me on this journey.
I love seeing how others are doing things and progressing in this game we love.

Brandon's thread detailing his quest to lvl 40's is most certainly my inspiration, but I may tweak a few things as the journey progresses. I'm in the easy part now because the DE/day requirements are fairly low, but as it gets harder I may change some things up. I'm not going to try and replicate a guide because Brandon did an awesome job there. I'm not using the exact same army comp, but I'd strongly recommend reading his guide if you haven't.

I did make up a simple spreadsheet that details the days for each upgrade, total DE cost, DE from drills, etc. and broke it down to identify how much DE per day I have to farm in order to stay ahead of the builders.
I currently have two lvl 6 drills and the third one will be online in about 15 days, so that's why the DE from Drills jumps up on my spreadsheet at lvl 15
DE Loot per day spreadsheet

Current Farming Strategy (updated 6/16/14)
Many thanks to Stitch for pointing me in a more efficient direction. See the following two posts to see what I'm currently using:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post2061023
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post2062962

Original Farming strategy (replaced):
I'm currently TH10 with 240 camp spaces and lvl 6 BARCH troops. I have lvl 5 lightning spell, but will be upgrading it to lvl 6 shortly.
I'm doing 3 barracks full time archers, 1 barracks full time barb, and adding 4 WB's on one of the arch barracks when needed.
So army works out to be approximately 163 archers, 69 barb, and 4 WB's for each attack.
I have lightning spells cooking full time in the lab for zapping.

Farming between 1900-2100 trophy's but holding the Crystal III badge for the extra 50 DE win bonus.

Primary targets are bases with 1k+ DE on the edge or one layer deep. If the base is really weak I'll go two layers deep.

Attack is fairly straight forward BARCH with focus on getting the 50% and then overloading the rest of the troops by the DE storage and use WB's as needed to get deeper.

The hard part is that I have shifted my thinking to DE only, so if a base has 1k of DE and only 20k/20k gold and elixir I still hit it. I do still hit the gimmie collector bases for gold/elixir, but if I spend all my time looking for good gold bases with good DE it will take that much longer.

Boosting and playtime
I plan to boost my 4 barracks and spell factory once a day and throughout the day on random work breaks and whatnot I'll probably get another 10-15 raids in.
So, overall this is how much I play already so no real change there.

Zapping (not doing this anymore)
During this boost time I'll get 4 sets of 5 spells (assuming I start the session with 5 spells). As I'm nexting through when I have 5 spells I look for a base with a capped DE storage, or check revenges available and hit them for a quick 2k zap. If there's a full lvl 6 drill deep in a base, I'll double zap it for a quick 1k.
During non boost time when spells are ready I'll search for a willing DE donor to give me his DE. :)

Updated 6/16 - After a couple weeks I found the zapping to be sporadic and found it to be much more efficient to use rage/heals with the giant strategy. So, zapping does work but I feel it's faster/better to use standard spells.

Goals:

• Keep 3 builders going full time on my normal defensive upgrades (piece of cake)
• Keep lab going full time
• Stay ahead of DE per day on spreadsheet throughout entire journey. Zero rest time for Hero builders.

Challenges:

• Cost: Boosting four barracks and the spell factory once a day and likely twice a day on Sat/Sun I estimate it will cost approximately $20/mo. in gems. (I bought a $100 gem pack to save some $)
• Time Commitment: For now, I'm staying way ahead of my DE per day requirement with my normal playing time. Towards the end, I will likely have to increase my play time some but we'll see.
• Clan Wars: This is a royal pain to be honest. For starters, I will have zero heroes for the next 6 months for attacks so I am having to change my whole strategy. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to do 12 mass Dragons with rage/heal because they dispatch CC troops very easily.
  The other issue is the cost of donations. I'm one of our higher players and typically end up donating about 5k DE worth of Hogs/Witches to clanmates. Fortunately we only do 2 wars per week as a clan, but it does add up. It also takes away a solid four hours of farming per week as well which hits the bottom line as well.

Here's my original HH (5/22/14)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps43a353ef.png

Current HH (updated 6/16/14)
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps6017de04.png

Defending my DE
I've experimented with several different base designs over the past months and have come up with this one. It's not perfect by any means, but in the 1900-2100 range I get a free shield in 9 out of 10 attacks and I've only had one get to my DE storage in the last two or three months. So, basically zappers are the only ones I get hit by and due to the speed of the free shield I've only had it happen once in the past two weeks.
So, I'm not really taking into account any losses because I feel it will be very minimal overall.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...psb8d12da4.png

I'll try to keep my progress updated here and I encourage anyone else who is farming their heroes to chime in with your strategy and successes.

If I keep everyone rocking full time I'm estimating an early December completion date for both heroes.

Good hunting everyone.

good luck :D

I love your dedication! I would love to be a part of this journey but my heroes are a little stronger then your heroes at the moment. My AQ is currently upgrading to level 29 and my BK is level 17. Also, I am a TH 9 working on level 10 walls as well so when heroes are maxed I will max my walls before I go to TH 10 and level 30 heroes are max at TH 9.

Let's go, I'm in!! :) My heroes are 16 and 17.. but I bet you'll catching up in no time!

Yeah I'm in, late TH9 with defenses about a month away from being done, just starting the hero grind.

BK 14
AQ 11 (in progress)

I'm leaving 2 builders open from now on just for them (and walls of course). I have about 110 days in my lab left, so I'm pushing heroes as high as possible in that window.

Awesome, this should be fun.

I've been concentrating on gold for walls for so long that it's a little bit weird for me to change my thinking. Don't get me wrong, I'm still upgrading walls, but I'm merely prioritizing DE over Gold at this point. So far I've still been able to upgrade a lava wall every day or two and keep the builders going.
I figured that I'll have a good chunk (if not all) of my lava's done by December so that will give me something to spend G on after the first of the year working on my zaps.

Another fun thing for me is that I did a spreadsheet with all of my building upgrades and with 3 builders on regular buildings and 2 on Heroes they will all be maxed in mid december.
Should make for a fun new year with a maxed D lava walled TH10 and lvl 40 heroes. :)

Awesome thread. I actually made a similar spreadsheet in January. Apparently my heros were lv11 back then but now they are 23 and 25. :D

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=pocket+manual

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Awesome thread. I actually made a similar spreadsheet in January. Apparently my heros were lv11 back then but now they are 23 and 25. :D

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=pocket+manual

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Ah, very nice. I hadn't noticed that thread before.

How has your journey been going? Have you been able to keep up with the DE so far?

Now I need to see if I can figure out how to get a spreadsheet into the post. lol

What is your GC so I can keep track of your progress easily, really intrigued by this thread and best of luck to you :D

Awesome idea! I'm in. Will post pics and details later.

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What is your GC so I can keep track of your progress easily, really intrigued by this thread and best of luck to you :D

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How often will you be updating the thread? I will definitely be staying tuned to this thread. Good luck!

I'm in - much the same strategy - two builders on the go full-time. Currently at BK10 and AQ15 so it's all DE all the time for me now as the defences are fully maxed out.

Can i join the journey with u?😁 mines are both going to 22 right now as a th9. It has gotten much harder now because i dont have as much time to play but im still getting about 30 k per day which isn't enough to keep both going. I sugguest saving some if u can once u get near 20s

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How often will you be updating the thread? I will definitely be staying tuned to this thread. Good luck!

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Hadn't really thought about it. Probably quite a bit up front as I'm trying to fine tune my farming strategy and range.
I'll definitely post an update each time a level finishes and I start the next.

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Can i join the journey with u?😁 mines are both going to 22 right now as a th9. It has gotten much harder now because i dont have as much time to play but im still getting about 30 k per day which isn't enough to keep both going. I sugguest saving some if u can once u get near 20s

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My goal is to stockpile as much as I can up front and take advantage of the lower upgrade costs I have now.

Quick update

I woke up kind of early yesterday so did a two hour boost session in the morning before work as well as one in the evening. I didn't find too many great bases, so loot was a little thin most of the day. I did play a bit more than I usually do so it more than compensated for the lower average. Looking at my last 10 attacks I averaged about 600 DE per attack and I normally try to keep it over 1k. It was better earlier in the day, but I'm not sure what the average was.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I'm also planning to do my "key" dark troop upgrades early on while I can easily out farm the hero upgrades. My OCD kicks in when I see an idle lab, so I'd hate to not be able to do a DE lab upgrade in 3 or 4 months due to not having enough. :)
I got up to almost 120k DE last night so I kicked off Golem 4 upgrade for a cost of 80k.

BK 12 finishes tonight around midnight so I need 55k by end of day for his upgrade. I will probably gem him an hour early so I don't have to stay up. :)
AQ 12 finishes in 2D 19H so I'll need another 65k for that one. With the weekend coming I wasn't too worried about having to farm a little extra to catch up from the Golem upgrade.

Last day stats
DE Start of Day: 82,360
Upgrade Golem 4: 80,000
DE End of Day: 39,735

DE gain for day 42,095
DE from Drills: 4,800
Net farmed: 37,295

*had one 3 spell zapper that rolled through, but he only took 527 DE
*finished our clan war so I spent ~1k on donations

Managed a pair of 2 stars on our CW with dragon attacks. I do miss my heroes for CW. :(

Strangely right now your heros are the same as mine so I'm going to follow your spread sheet and I should have them at the same time as you and be maxed th10 :)

So, I've been doing ok with straight BARCH +4 WB, but I am experimenting with some of the suggestions Brandon made in his DE farming guide.
For the first couple weeks I was having pretty good luck with the lightning spells in that I'd usually find a pretty juicy base every 40 minutes or so to zap for the extra bonus. However, yesterday I barely zapped two people all day because I just never hit any with 4k+ of DE so it got me to questioning my spell choices.
Remember, it's all about DE/hr. :)

So, I switched up to 2xjump/2xrage/1xlightning because there were quite a few 1500+ DE storages that were just deep enough that I couldn't get them with my straight BARCH/WB and it wasn't full enough for lightning and I also added in 20 goblins. I used BAM almost exclusively to farm my gold for walls as a TH9, so the goblin/jump (flying goblin) strategy is very similar to BAM and seems to be working quite well.
In theory with a boosted barracks I'd have a fresh jump/rage combo completed and if I hit a 1500+ DE storage with it I'll net the same or more every 22 minutes as I would every 38 minutes with a 5 spell zap (boosted). There's also an upside if I catch a capped DE storage in that I can get all of it vs. a fraction with zaps. So far, it's been better, but I'll see how it goes.

I fired up my recorder so I will try and add some video of my good attacks and I promise to never admit to or show any bad attacks. :)
This one didn't incorporate the jump, but the goblins came in pretty handy. With the two mortars pounding that corner I doubt the barb/archers would have been able to get the DE storage down without spells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL5Nx_v7Wx0

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Strangely right now your heros are the same as mine so I'm going to follow your spread sheet and I should have them at the same time as you and be maxed th10 :)

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lol, sweet.

Okay can't seem to get here or photobuclet to upload my screen cap so guess that will have to wait.

My Ign is Arom Rodavlas. Clan is Stargate with purple sheild. I'm a TH9 king working on lev 11. Queen will be lev 9 today.

Ive always tried to keep one hero going but just about a week ago have starting focusing solely on DE really now that Ive been TH9 for maybe 3 weeks or so Ive gotten most of the elixir upgrades done so I can use larger De armies. At the moment I'm doing all loonian raids in crystal 2-3 and it seems to be working good. Its allowed me to farm 20-30k DE Per day which was more than I was usually doing. This let me get my king going, minons going and queen going again before she woke up. =] thats a good feeling haha.


Queen will be up in 12 hours though and Ive been slacking need a lot of De so I gotta get to raiding.

Hey OP thanks for this thread. Maybe you can edited the first post to include a list of who wants to join you in this journey, their start dates and their hero levels so its easy to watch everyone progress.

Arom

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Okay can't seem to get here or photobuclet to upload my screen cap so guess that will have to wait.

My Ign is Arom Rodavlas. Clan is Stargate with purple sheild. I'm a TH9 king working on lev 11. Queen will be lev 9 today.

Ive always tried to keep one hero going but just about a week ago have starting focusing solely on DE really now that Ive been TH9 for maybe 3 weeks or so Ive gotten most of the elixir upgrades done so I can use larger De armies. At the moment I'm doing all loonian raids in crystal 2-3 and it seems to be working good. Its allowed me to farm 20-30k DE Per day which was more than I was usually doing. This let me get my king going, minons going and queen going again before she woke up. =] thats a good feeling haha.


Queen will be up in 12 hours though and Ive been slacking need a lot of De so I gotta get to raiding.

Hey OP thanks for this thread. Maybe you can edited the first post to include a list of who wants to join you in this journey, their start dates and their hero levels so its easy to watch everyone progress.

Arom

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Welcome aboard. I like your idea about tracking everyone up front. I'm a little worried I won't be able to keep track of everyone, but I'll give it a go. :)

nice life ;;;;

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nice life ;;;;

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Thanks, I think. :)

Guessing, you're giving me a hard time for playing too much, but one thing I love about this game is how "non intrusive" it is to a normal life. You can play it "a lot", without really effecting anything.

I'm a 40 year old dude with 3 teenage kids (1 off to college) and own a pretty good sized business.
Clash is a pretty small part of my life and I mostly play it while I'm watching TV with my wife in the evening.
I can "play" for 3 or 4 hours straight but it's really no different than if I were just sitting and watching TV which is what I'd be doing otherwise. My wife is usually playing candy crush too, so we're an uber gaming family. lol

i'm a new TH9 without an AQ but I have a lvl 5 king I'd love to join You although I'd be behind I will push with batch while I farm DE

My king is about to finish to 15 and my queen is upping to 13 right now. I really neglected them for far too long as I am almost max on my defensive buildings at town hall 10.

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Thanks, I think. :)

Guessing, you're giving me a hard time for playing too much, but one thing I love about this game is how "non intrusive" it is to a normal life. You can play it "a lot", without really effecting anything.

I'm a 40 year old dude with 3 teenage kids (1 off to college) and own a pretty good sized business.
Clash is a pretty small part of my life and I mostly play it while I'm watching TV with my wife in the evening.
I can "play" for 3 or 4 hours straight but it's really no different than if I were just sitting and watching TV which is what I'd be doing otherwise. My wife is usually playing candy crush too, so we're an uber gaming family. lol

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dude you don't have to explain your life and how you decide to live it with him or anyone else
by the way im in king currently 10 archer 9 th9

Good luck to Lv40 Heroes! I would join you but I am a TH9....so I'll just go to Lv30 :rolleyes:

I'd love to join!
Upgrading to TH10 as we speak.
BK upgrading to 10, AQ will be started to 9 later today.
I don't play too much, so you've probably got me, but this is just for fun:)

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dude you don't have to explain your life and how you decide to live it with him or anyone else
by the way im in king currently 10 archer 9 th9

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Yeah, I know. If anything I like to express to others that you don't have to play 18 hours a day to be successful in this game.

Great topic! It'll be very useful!!

Alright so far DE farming has been going great. Trying to hang around between high crystal 3 - mid crystal 2. Trying to keep C2 badge for extra 50 De bonus each battle but just lost it with season ending. Think I'm averaging around 25-30k a day. Ive managed to keep queen going for last few levels straight along with lab for minions and now king so I excited. Ive never farmed so much DE before so am so excited to see how long I can have them both going for. At the moment I got 2.5 days I think to get the De for kings level 12.

Let's get that DE people.

I'd love to join, but I'm still a very new th9 but maxed king at th8, queen should be going to 3 in a few hours.
Good luck though!

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Alright so far DE farming has been going great. Trying to hang around between high crystal 3 - mid crystal 2. Trying to keep C2 badge for extra 50 De bonus each battle but just lost it with season ending. Think I'm averaging around 25-30k a day. Ive managed to keep queen going for last few levels straight along with lab for minions and now king so I excited. Ive never farmed so much DE before so am so excited to see how long I can have them both going for. At the moment I got 2.5 days I think to get the De for kings level 12.

Let's get that DE people.

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Excellent, yeah so far it's been going pretty easy for me as well. I'm really curious how it goes over the next several months as the upgrades get more and more expensive.
Fingers crossed for a 1 gem boost period at some point during the next few months. lol

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dude you don't have to explain your life and how you decide to live it with him or anyone else
by the way im in king currently 10 archer 9 th9

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Why do you bother? It is your choice to read it, get over yourself. Personally I think it is interesting to read about what people do for a living besides Clash.

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Why do you bother? It is your choice to read it, get over yourself. Personally I think it is interesting to read about what people do for a living besides Clash.

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I agree!

Good luck with your journey Coldfury :)

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I'd love to join, but I'm still a very new th9 but maxed king at th8, queen should be going to 3 in a few hours.
Good luck though!

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I think you should join, if you have a BK level 10 now you will be able to catch up with many of the players! :)

Slow going for me, BK at 15 and AQ at 11, but haven't had time to farm much DE. Sitting at 26k and need to get to at least 60k for next upgrade.

Quick update. I didn't play very much at all over the weekend due to the Holiday here in the US so I have a little catching up to do, but it shouldn't effect my upgrades.

I had enough to kick off AQ 13 as soon as she finished and BK 13 finishes tomorrow night late.
I currently have 53.4k DE, so the additional 6k for BK 14 tomorrow night is a done deal and I have 3d 19H until AQ is finished when I'll need 70k for her.
So I'll have to hit approx 18k DE per day to catch up (plus drills) in order to keep AQ going which shouldn't be a problem.

BK finishes tomorrow around midnight so I am going to just let him sit overnight and start his upgrade in the morning vs. gemming him early or staying up late. I'm done with the half day upgrades, so it will be good to have both finishing their upgrades in the mornings from here out.

I've been having really good luck on Defense with my TH getting sniped right away each time I log off. I've only lost 561 DE in the last 13 attacks and it was from a TH8 hitting me with 3 lvl 3 lightning spells.

Hope all is going well for everyone else

Cold

Well that was easy. The weather was gorgeous here in Omaha last night so my wife and I sat out on the deck enjoying the evening while I clashed and she played her candy crush. lol (such a nerd family)

I managed to farm almost 45k of DE last night, so I feel a lot better about my cushion now. :)

DE was pretty good last night which made things a lot easier.


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps4a929797.png

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Count me in. Not to get my heroes to level 40, but my heroes to the max level my town hall provides.

Thank you for sharing your information!
It is interesting to hear from someone we are having a war at this moment. Care to comment on the current ongoing war? I would like to hear some feedback for the other side.

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On May 10th I finally decided to make a commitment to my neglected Heroes. We sat down and had a long talk and both my AQ and BK decided that they would feel much better about themselves if they were lvl 40 vs. their current lvl 10.
So, I recruited two builders, Archie and Bing, who agreed to work full time until they were upgraded and the journey began.

I've been going at it for a couple weeks now and I know there are a lot of you out there who want to work on your heroes as well, so I thought I'd throw an invite out and see if anyone cares to join me on this journey.
I love seeing how others are doing things and progressing in this game we love.

Brandon's thread detailing his quest to lvl 40's is most certainly my inspiration, but I may tweak a few things as the journey progresses. I'm in the easy part now because the DE/day requirements are fairly low, but as it gets harder I may change some things up. I'm not going to try and replicate a guide because Brandon did an awesome job there. I'm not using the exact same army comp, but I'd strongly recommend reading his guide if you haven't.

I did make up a simple spreadsheet that details the days for each upgrade, total DE cost, DE from drills, etc. and broke it down to identify how much DE per day I have to farm in order to stay ahead of the builders.
I currently have two lvl 6 drills and the third one will be online in about 15 days, so that's why the DE from Drills jumps up on my spreadsheet at lvl 15
DE Loot per day spreadsheet

Current Farming strategy:
I'm currently TH10 with 240 camp spaces and lvl 6 BARCH troops. I have lvl 5 lightning spell, but will be upgrading it to lvl 6 shortly.
I'm doing 3 barracks full time archers, 1 barracks full time barb, and adding 4 WB's on one of the arch barracks when needed.
So army works out to be approximately 163 archers, 69 barb, and 4 WB's for each attack.
I have lightning spells cooking full time in the lab for zapping.

Farming between 1900-2100 trophy's but holding the Crystal III badge for the extra 50 DE win bonus.

Primary targets are bases with 1k+ DE on the edge or one layer deep. If the base is really weak I'll go two layers deep.

Attack is fairly straight forward BARCH with focus on getting the 50% and then overloading the rest of the troops by the DE storage and use WB's as needed to get deeper.

The hard part is that I have shifted my thinking to DE only, so if a base has 1k of DE and only 20k/20k gold and elixir I still hit it. I do still hit the gimmie collector bases for gold/elixir, but if I spend all my time looking for good gold bases with good DE it will take that much longer.

Boosting and playtime
I plan to boost my 4 barracks and spell factory once a day and throughout the day on random work breaks and whatnot I'll probably get another 10-15 raids in.
So, overall this is how much I play already so no real change there.

Zapping
During this boost time I'll get 4 sets of 5 spells (assuming I start the session with 5 spells). As I'm nexting through when I have 5 spells I look for a base with a capped DE storage, or check revenges available and hit them for a quick 2k zap. If there's a full lvl 6 drill deep in a base, I'll double zap it for a quick 1k.
During non boost time when spells are ready I'll search for a willing DE donor to give me his DE. :)

Goals:

• Keep 3 builders going full time on my normal defensive upgrades (piece of cake)
• Keep lab going full time
• Stay ahead of DE per day on spreadsheet throughout entire journey. Zero rest time for Hero builders.

Challenges:

• Cost: Boosting four barracks and the spell factory once a day and likely twice a day on Sat/Sun I estimate it will cost approximately $20/mo. in gems. (I bought a $100 gem pack to save some $)
• Time Commitment: For now, I'm staying way ahead of my DE per day requirement with my normal playing time. Towards the end, I will likely have to increase my play time some but we'll see.
• Clan Wars: This is a royal pain to be honest. For starters, I will have zero heroes for the next 6 months for attacks so I am having to change my whole strategy. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to do 12 mass Dragons with rage/heal because they dispatch CC troops very easily.
  The other issue is the cost of donations. I'm one of our higher players and typically end up donating about 5k DE worth of Hogs/Witches to clanmates. Fortunately we only do 2 wars per week as a clan, but it does add up. It also takes away a solid four hours of farming per week as well which hits the bottom line as well.

Here's my current HH
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps43a353ef.png

Defending my DE
I've experimented with several different base designs over the past months and have come up with this one. It's not perfect by any means, but in the 1900-2100 range I get a free shield in 9 out of 10 attacks and I've only had one get to my DE storage in the last two or three months. So, basically zappers are the only ones I get hit by and due to the speed of the free shield I've only had it happen once in the past two weeks.
So, I'm not really taking into account any losses because I feel it will be very minimal overall.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...psb8d12da4.png

I'll try to keep my progress updated here and I encourage anyone else who is farming their heroes to chime in with your strategy and successes.

If I keep everyone rocking full time I'm estimating an early December completion date for both heroes.

Good hunting everyone.

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It would be interesting to have a conversation with members of our warring clan.

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lol, small world indeed. :)

We forfeited this one before it even started due to the tough matchups on the ends. I'm the only guy in our clan who could hit the top 4 TH10's and our bottom 16 (all TH6/7) only have 3 TH7's to hit on your side so that takes away another 20+ attacks. Even if we 3 starred every attack in the middle, we figured we'd still be in an impossible situation.

So, rather than waste a bunch of resources on an improbable matchup we decided to donate light troops to the war CC's and most of our guys aren't attacking to save on resources (myself included). Some people are practicing, but this is an easy win for you guys. :)

Good luck everybody;)

Alright so Ive been farming De like crazy! In fact I'm already getting sick of it haha. Mainly worry about having a lot of De. Once I get over 30k in storage I dont feel safe from raiders so I tend to stay on for huge marathons. I just touch my phone on my hip to keep screen on.


Anyways got queen going to 11. I didn't want her to wait at all but she was a 55k instead of 50k so she ended up being awake for one raid.

I farmed 41k De in last 24 hours and 100k De in last 4 days so I guess my average is 25k. I also broke my HH achievement last night which was exciting.

I'm kinda thinking by level 15-20 I might need to slow down on heroes for a week or so for extra defense upgrades since I will need to be offline with a ton of De before I marathon the last 15-20k

I'm farming DE and have 60k right now. Sadly that is going to level 6 minions. So no hero upgrades until I am settled into TH10.

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Alright so Ive been farming De like crazy! In fact I'm already getting sick of it haha. Mainly worry about having a lot of De. Once I get over 30k in storage I dont feel safe from raiders so I tend to stay on for huge marathons. I just touch my phone on my hip to keep screen on.


Anyways got queen going to 11. I didn't want her to wait at all but she was a 55k instead of 50k so she ended up being awake for one raid.

I farmed 41k De in last 24 hours and 100k De in last 4 days so I guess my average is 25k. I also broke my HH achievement last night which was exciting.

I'm kinda thinking by level 15-20 I might need to slow down on heroes for a week or so for extra defense upgrades since I will need to be offline with a ton of De before I marathon the last 15-20k

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Nice job. Yeah, I think the big challenge for all of us is to keep the boredom down.
This weekend I'm switching it up for fun by jumping up to Masters to do some farming with my balloons/minions. Truly my favorite army comp, so when I get bored with whatever I'm doing I'll spend a weekend playing with my minions and then go back. :)

I think I finally got my base to a good spot where it's a lot easier to retain my DE. I almost never get attacked when I'm in farming mode in Crystal III and when I do they never touch my DE storage. I'm a big fan of the double moat isolating the core because it keeps all but the most skilled players out. (which is most people)

I also try to take the mindset of not really worrying about it because I know I can out farm my attackers. I do try and play in streaks where I can get a minimum of 3 or 4 attacks in so if I do get rocked on D they take less than I was able to farm that session.

I'm curious to see how my D holds up in Masters because I haven't been there since TH9. Had two attacks in Crystal I last night and won one and the second only got a 1 star 58%. Only DE he got was what was in one drill.

Quick update.
Everything is going along smoothly. I've played quite a bit less than I was originally anticipating and even screwed around in Masters III for the weekend with Balloonians, but still have been able to stay way ahead on DE at this stage.

Both Heroes are lvl 13 and headed to 14. BK done in 3d 5H and AQ done in 5d 7H.

Here's my latest HH from this morning which works out to about 320k farmed since my first post on May 22nd or approx 30k/day.
Pretty sure this doesn't count drill loot either, so I'm staying way ahead of schedule so far.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps54b1d6cb.png

Slow progress for me. Turns out I'm great at farming gold/elixir and lousy at farming DE. Guess its finally time to move up from the 1600s. It doesn't help that my lab needs about 60k+ DE every 10 or so days either.

Im in as well! Getting the king to lv 5 on th 7 is going to be as serious quest but i wont upgrade to th 8 before i did that

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Im in as well! Getting the king to lv 5 on th 7 is going to be as serious quest but i wont upgrade to th 8 before i did that

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Why would you let that hold you back? TH8 will be easier to get DE with since lev 5 troops are a large improvement. Having a harder time to farm it while having th8s run you over taking it back is a huge waste of time.

I'm only a th8 but my bk is going to be lvl 10 in 3 days :D gl on your quest! Can't wait till I can get my queen :P

Great work coldfury! That's some great loot farming average. Man its kinda hard not to get burned out on De farming a bit. I was loonians every day every attack for last few weeks and got a bit tired of it so I just switched to giant healer for a bit of variety. I've managed yk screw up a few of them already =| haha gotta get used to which bases through of my troops from heading to core since I haven't ground attacked for a bit .

I got a bit tired of so many skips since I had 600 De of minions to make up for I had to skip sometimes for 8+ min straight and end up not raiding at all since I had to hop out of truck for work. So I'm hoping that it will let me attack for small loots around 1200 or so before I need to get out to work again.

So as far as my quest goes king finishes up to lev 12 tonight and I got 49k De ready to go so only need 6k more so I'll have him going as soon as he wakes up. Though I really might skip him next level and do golems instead. Mine are lev 1 and I really wanna get them up for CWs.

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Slow progress for me. Turns out I'm great at farming gold/elixir and lousy at farming DE. Guess its finally time to move up from the 1600s. It doesn't help that my lab needs about 60k+ DE every 10 or so days either.

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Yeah, that pesky lab. :) I fortunately finished my minion upgrade to lvl 6 right before I started my hero quest and squeaked out the golem to lvl 4 last week. My witches/hogs were already maxed at TH9 and I don't care about valks.

As for getting DE quickly I think it's essential to get up to 1800 trophy's at a minimum and in my experience it's a little spotty down there. I have been having really good luck between 1900-2000 and have been trying to hover around there holding onto the Crystal III badge for extra win bonus.

My challenge has been keeping my Elixir up for upgrades because I'm exclusively focusing on DE. If I see somebody with 1k of DE and 3k Elixir I'll still hit them for the DE. My army isn't super expensive, but at ~60k of elixir and over 100k if I use a couple spells it does add up fast.
In general I've been coming out positive a million or two elixir every few days, but then our two clan wars per week tend to drain that back to even and leaving nothing for upgrades. I actually stopped focusing on DE last night just so I could intentionally farm Elixir for our CW this week. I also have my 3rd DE drill that finished to level 5 that I haven't been able to get started on lvl 6 yet. I should have that going in the next day or two.

Based on my early results with DE coming fast and furious I'm going to shift to a little more balanced approach to make sure I'm staying elixir positive as well as getting good DE.

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I'm only a th8 but my bk is going to be lvl 10 in 3 days :D gl on your quest! Can't wait till I can get my queen :P

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awesome, congrats. You're way ahead of the game from where I was. I think mine was lvl 2 or 3 when I hit TH9. lol

I've got a second account that is TH7 (Barefury in same clan) and everything is definitely getting maxed on it before I push to the next TH. It's definitely an experience trying to farm DE at TH7, but I am committed to getting his BK to lvl 5 prior to going TH8.

Perhaps I should add in my TH7 farming strategy as well. :)

I might try to barch up in master 2 without heroes and keep them going nonstop

Awesome I look forward to seeing your progress, also where can I find Brandons thread you mention?

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Awesome I look forward to seeing your progress, also where can I find Brandons thread you mention?

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http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rming-Guide%29

I'm in too. (Though I'm only TH9.) Been able to keep both sleeping with AQ going from about level 7 to 15 (finishes in 3d). Have 89500 DE at the moment but my BK hits level 15 in 20 minutes, so that will drop quite a bit. The last few weeks I have been trying to get enough DE to keep them both sleeping and have the lab upgrade my hogs (will have level 3 hogs tomorrow).

Once my base was maxed I decided to do the same thing and fully focus on Heroes.

I've been at it now for 6 or 7 weeks using the strategy from Tuvya on this forum.

When I started my AQ was 29 and BK was 28. Now my AQ is 40 and BK is upgrading to 35. I think this is just over 3 million DE farmed so far and I have about another 1 million to go until the King is maxed.

My only goal was to farm every drop of DE for these monsters. Once I decided to do this I wanted to do it as quickly as possible and I found Tuvya's method to be the best. Essentially farming in Crystal league with Tier 1 troops with a build time of 26 minutes, however on boost it's every 6 1/2 minutes. This generates a steady 12 to 15k DE per hour. Therefore a 4 hour session works out at between 50 to 60k, or full DE storage every 3 to 4 days.

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- I found it much easier farming DE with 1 active Hero. Therefore I maxed the Queen first and now I'm maxing the King.
- As soon as my DE storage is full I Gem the remaining upgrade time and put them straight back to sleep
- You could use the same method and keep both Heroes upgrading but I would expect DE per hour to drop to 8 to 12k DE per hour without Hero support.

Yes, I realise this method uses Gems for boost and some Gems for upgrade however it is a fraction of the cost of buying the Heroes. This was my decision because a) I can afford the Gems and b) I cannot be bothered to wait the 160+ days of upgrading time on these Heroes when I already have a maxed base and nothing else to do. (my walls are not maxed but I'm not farming those).

Depending on my schedule I should have maxed Heroes in the next 2 to 3 weeks. This should put me in good shape for when TH11 comes out :)

It's not easy, but if you're like me and set yourself a goal then you'll stick with it to the end. Best of luck on your journey.

Cheers.

Glad to hear the success everyone is having.

I can't remember if I mentioned my current tweak to my farming strategy, so I'll throw it out here (again) just in case.
I originally was just doing BARCH, but noticed there were several storages that were barely too deep and couldn't get to through the walls, so I added in some wallbreakers. Then, the same thing I'd knock the walls through but sometimes the archers wouldn't hit the DE or the mortars would do a number and I wouldn't get the storage.

So now I'm rolling with 3 barracks archers, 1 barracks barbs, but as soon as I finish a battle I'll build 20 goblins in the 2nd archer barracks, 6 WB's in the 3d archer barracks, and have the 1st & 4th continuous arch/barb.
Then for spells, I'm doing 1x lightning, 2x jump, 2x rage but don't use the spells unless it's a really juicy storage.

If it's a great DE base (2k+) I'll pretty much ignore the win and focus 100% on the DE. Snipe the drills if available and then do an all out BAM style attack on the DE storage, but in stead of minions I use the goblins to get the DE. So, flood barb/arch across side closest to DE, then drop two WB's to take out the outside wall and two more for second wall (if necessary) and then if the DE is deeper in I try to ensure all my barb/archer clear all the mines/storages and then drop my jump/rage spell near the DE storage and let the goblins loose. They'll vaporize the DE storage in about a second and that's about it.

I'm still learning which storages I can get to and which ones I can't. If there are multi IT's I don't even try. If there are two WT's nearby I won't even try. I primarily focus on DE storages that are 1 or 2 layers deep, but occasionally I get the really juicy one that I can get with my jump/rage goblins.

I don't use the spells too often, but they're paying off a lot better than just keeping 5 lightning spells for the occasional zap.

This strategy is similar to Brandon's, but I believe he added in a few minions and hogs. I may experiment with that some in the future but as of now this method seems to be working very well.

For my TH7 Base (Barefury) I am doing a similar approach minus the jump spell. He has 200 troop spaces and lvl 4 barb/arch so I'm going two rax archers, two rax barb and adding my 20 goblins and 6 WB's in on the 2nd & 3rd barracks and just using rage spells.
He's only at 1260 trophy's currently so the DE is very sparse. I'm slowly working him up to see if I can have some success in Gold II and possibly Gold I, but that might be a stretch for a TH7

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Once my base was maxed I decided to do the same thing and fully focus on Heroes.

I've been at it now for 6 or 7 weeks using the strategy from Tuvya on this forum.

When I started my AQ was 29 and BK was 28. Now my AQ is 40 and BK is upgrading to 35. I think this is just over 3 million DE farmed so far and I have about another 1 million to go until the King is maxed.

My only goal was to farm every drop of DE for these monsters. Once I decided to do this I wanted to do it as quickly as possible and I found Tuvya's method to be the best. Essentially farming in Crystal league with Tier 1 troops with a build time of 26 minutes, however on boost it's every 6 1/2 minutes. This generates a steady 12 to 15k DE per hour. Therefore a 4 hour session works out at between 50 to 60k, or full DE storage every 3 to 4 days.

Note:
- I found it much easier farming DE with 1 active Hero. Therefore I maxed the Queen first and now I'm maxing the King.
- As soon as my DE storage is full I Gem the remaining upgrade time and put them straight back to sleep
- You could use the same method and keep both Heroes upgrading but I would expect DE per hour to drop to 8 to 12k DE per hour without Hero support.

Yes, I realise this method uses Gems for boost and some Gems for upgrade however it is a fraction of the cost of buying the Heroes. This was my decision because a) I can afford the Gems and b) I cannot be bothered to wait the 160+ days of upgrading time on these Heroes when I already have a maxed base and nothing else to do. (my walls are not maxed but I'm not farming those).

Depending on my schedule I should have maxed Heroes in the next 2 to 3 weeks. This should put me in good shape for when TH11 comes out :)

It's not easy, but if you're like me and set yourself a goal then you'll stick with it to the end. Best of luck on your journey.

Cheers.

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Thanks for the feedback. I did a quick search and didn't find Tuvya's strategy, do you by chance have a link.

One thing for sure, I am 100% open to any and all farming methods. If anything I'm addicted to efficiency when it comes to my farming and am always looking for ways to improve. :)

I had thought about doing one hero at a time, but when I made out my full spreadsheet of all my upgrades I noticed that it would take me until Dec to max both heroes if I have them going full time and my TH10 would also finish it's max in December with the other 3 builders working on buildings. So, it seemed pretty cool to have everything (heroes included) to be finishing at the same time.
There's no question that farming would be so much easier with even one hero and holding trophy's would be easier. I can't count how many 49%'s I've had in the last month.

I have a similar philosophy when it comes to gemming. I mostly raid with boosted barracks and SF and when my resources are maxed I'll gem something finished so I can keep farming. I haven't gotten to the point where I've maxed my DE yet, but when I do I'm sure I'll gem somebody finished so I can keep farming.

I haven't tracked my DE per hour real well, but boosting I'd say I'm running anywhere from 8k to 15k per hour attacking every 5 minutes or so. Obviously that's more than enough with lvl 13 heroes, but I'll have to pick it up later in the process.

Congrats on your AQ40!

I meant to post this first one the other day. Was an example of what the vast majority of my attacks are with picking off DE Drills and WB/Goblin's hitting the 1 or 2 layer deep DE storage with no spells.
(btw, I skipped the 2k DE one at :32 on the video because he had dual IT's and 4 storages in the way. The IT's were in single target, but I felt I'd have a tough time getting through all 4 of the storages with the IT's and 3 mortars working on me. I did take a good look though)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfTcVeOM4lE

Here is one from last night that I used a jump spell on, but no rage so you can see how I use the jump spell to get the DE all the way in the center. If it's rougher going and there's more DE available I'll drop a rage/jump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGRpr41-YIg

Hope you don't mind the videos. I always like seeing what others are doing, so I assume the inverse is true. :)
You'll notice these aren't epic loot grabs by any means, but they're consistent with most of my attacks. The 3k+ ones are just gravy. :)

I set off with level 16 AQ and BK and now both are 18 and have been constantly upgrading for the past 2 weeks. I am loving Brandon's method. i will be heading up to 2600 soon in hope of better DE. I will let you know how it is up there! I hope you achieve you goal!

Alright so I didn't think I'd get my De farmed for queen in 1.5 days so instead I gemmed her time and started her to 12. Honestly its getting a bit hard since I can't protect over 30k De very well so I decided I'd keep barb king awake for a week or two while I knock out some extra towers so I can be able to hopefully not get raided like crazy till I'm closer to the amounts needed now that their over 60k.

Also I'm thinking ima give queen a bit extra priority and will probably gem her remaining time semi often if it doesnt look like she can be farmed without a delay.


Also Ive been using giant healer with my lev 3 healers last few days for a change of pace and faster base selections since I dont need 2200 min which is cool but man I have screwed up soooo many attacks I almost stopped. Finally I'm starting to get the hang of it and have been winning now again after a full day of screwing up haha

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Thanks for the feedback. I did a quick search and didn't find Tuvya's strategy, do you by chance have a link.

One thing for sure, I am 100% open to any and all farming methods. If anything I'm addicted to efficiency when it comes to my farming and am always looking for ways to improve. :)

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Hey Coldfury,

I'm not sure Tuvya did a full write-up, I just got all the details from various posts he made plus a few PMs.

Anyway, here is a video showing the army composition. On boosted barracks it builds every 6 to 7 minutes. I probably use 1 spell every 5 raids and the CC every 10 raids around 2,000 with no Heroes.

The reason is the strength and versatility of the army. This works great because spells take a while to make and you can only refill your CC every 20 minutes anyway.

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1) The video shows my complete Attack Log with army / spells / CC used so you can see
2) Raid 1: How I break into the core of bases to steal the DE (no spells)
3) Raid 2: I actually farmed the Elixir on this raid but the Rage spell shows how I normally open up a base to get to the core.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLp4E3ioio

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Hey Coldfury,

I'm not sure Tuvya did a full write-up, I just got all the details from various posts he made plus a few PMs.

Anyway, here is a video showing the army composition. On boosted barracks it builds every 6 to 7 minutes. I probably use 1 spell every 5 raids and the CC every 10 raids around 2,000 with no Heroes.

The reason is the strength and versatility of the army. This works great because spells take a while to make and you can only refill your CC every 20 minutes anyway.

Note:
1) The video shows my complete Attack Log with army / spells / CC used so you can see
2) Raid 1: How I break into the core of bases to steal the DE (no spells)
3) Raid 2: I actually farmed the Elixir on this raid but the Rage spell shows how I normally open up a base to get to the core.

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Thanks so much for sharing the video, that helped me a lot to understand what you're doing.

I tested out your farming strat this morning for a 2 hour boost session and I think you guys might be onto something. It seems to be considerably more powerful for getting deeper into bases which opened up a lot of bases I normally would not have hit.
It also seemed easier to get wins consistently compared to my BARCHing so that made holding trophy's much easier.

Overall, it's a little heavier on elixir to build the army, but as you mentioned I rarely had to use spells so I feel it balances out because I would use spells quite a bit more with the BARCH strategy.

It took me a little practice to start getting the hang of it and I had a few bases that were way too strong where I got my tail handed to me but overall it was very good. I will have to discover the full limitations, but I think I'm going to work with this for a while.

Here's a couple of attacks from this morning. The first one was a base I never would have even dreamed of hitting with BARCH, but with a couple spells I got a nice payday.
The second attack was more consistent with most of my attacks.

http://youtu.be/6cFovsXQR2E


Thanks Stitch!

Wow, that's one difficult and long journey for all of you guys. Good luck hunting those little drops of dark elixir.
Maybe I'll head this path one day but for the moment, as a th8, my BK and I can only encourage you from afar. :)

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Thanks so much for sharing the video, that helped me a lot to understand what you're doing.

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I tested out your farming strat this morning for a 2 hour boost session and I think you guys might be onto something. It seems to be considerably more powerful for getting deeper into bases which opened up a lot of bases I normally would not have hit.
It also seemed easier to get wins consistently compared to my BARCHing so that made holding trophy's much easier.

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Yeah, due to the build time the 2 hour boost is pretty key here. You're right though the stronger army gives you a lot more options on which base to pick and makes the 50% a bit easier. After a raid, and with the boost, my next army is either ready or 1 to 2 minutes off so it works well.

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Overall, it's a little heavier on elixir to build the army, but as you mentioned I rarely had to use spells so I feel it balances out because I would use spells quite a bit more with the BARCH strategy.

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Yes, you need to keep an eye on Elixir. This gets easier the more you do it. I can go 10 raids without a spell which helps or whenever I see a 250k/250k/400 DE base I just take it for a top-up.
I managed to finish my last 3 lab upgrades while doing this and each of those was 8 million Elixir. A day before I maxed Elixir I let it build up in my pumps. Then straight after spending 8 million I emptied 200 to 300k Elixir from the pumps which kept me going without any problems.
Trust me, this gets easier with practise.

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It took me a little practice to start getting the hang of it and I had a few bases that were way too strong where I got my tail handed to me but overall it was very good. I will have to discover the full limitations, but I think I'm going to work with this for a while.

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That's ok. As much as I hate a failed raid I only have to wait 1 minute for the next raid so it's quickly forgotten about.

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Here's a couple of attacks from this morning. The first one was a base I never would have even dreamed of hitting with BARCH, but with a couple spells I got a nice payday.
The second attack was more consistent with most of my attacks.

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Great attacks. As I said, I can go 10 raids without using a spell but if I see a base like that I have no hesitation dropping a Heal and Rage in return for 3k :D
The second attack was like my average raid. Normally around 1.2 to 1.4k around 2,000 and 1.4 to 1.8k around 2,200.

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Thanks Stitch!

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Keep posting how you go. I've used the exact same strategy for the last 3.2 million DE farmed. Have not changed a troop.
I started BK 36 this morning :)

great raids guys thanks for sharing. really makes your base feel less secure when you see people grabbing DE from cores without loons or healers or something high tier haha. I just gemmed some time on max healer. Couldnt wait haha so ill be taking her for some test runs to see how much she helps. need 25k de for queen so hopefully tomorrow illl gem her time and restart her.

Stitch, what is the troop combo you use for th9?

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great raids guys thanks for sharing. really makes your base feel less secure when you see people grabbing DE from cores without loons or healers or something high tier haha. I just gemmed some time on max healer. Couldnt wait haha so ill be taking her for some test runs to see how much she helps. need 25k de for queen so hopefully tomorrow illl gem her time and restart her.

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I think base design can go a long ways to making you feel a lot more comfortable when you're showing a lot of DE. You know how you're hunting for some DE and see that base that you'll never attack and usually it's because there's something "weird" about it that you don't know how your troops will react. My goofy moat base is one of those kinds of bases. For whatever reason people just skip it over and over. There's three people in my clan using variations of the same base (2 TH9) and our bases are rarely attacked in wars because people don't understand it.
So, deterrence is your first level of defense. :)

I did a quick video of my defensive layout that's sole purpose is max protect DE. I care about my gold/elixir, but not as much as my DE.

It's by no means the perfect base and is vulnerable to anti ringus type attacks, but it does an awesome job at protecting my DE. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoU_JUw1Kvo

I'm in, maxed TH9 defenses. AQ and BK upgrading to lv 21.

I've used today the first time Tuvya/Stich combo and must say it is awesome. In the first boost I've farmed 24k DE, in second boost 20k DE.

Army composition: 14 Giants, 28 Goblins, 54 Archers, 44 Barbs, 12 WB.

Racks 1,2: 4 Giants, 19 Archers, 12 Barbs, 3 WB
Racks 3,4: 3 Giants, 14 Goblins, 8 Archers, 10 Barbs, 3 WB.

CC Wizards, Spells 2 Heal, 2 Rage.

Nice thread coldfury, I came to the realisation that if I kept my heroes under construction till maxed I will reach full maxed TH9 all within a week of each other Wall/Building/Heroes. To do so I need to farm 4.2m G and 28k DE a day for another 138 days(rough figures). Started using Tuvya's method today as well and it's been good so far.

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I'm in, maxed TH9 defenses. AQ and BK upgrading to lv 21.

I've used today the first time Tuvya/Stich combo and must say it is awesome. In the first boost I've farmed 24k DE, in second boost 20k DE.

Army composition: 14 Giants, 28 Goblins, 54 Archers, 44 Barbs, 12 WB.

Racks 1,2: 4 Giants, 19 Archers, 12 Barbs, 3 WB
Racks 3,4: 3 Giants, 14 Goblins, 8 Archers, 10 Barbs, 3 WB.

CC Wizards, Spells 2 Heal, 2 Rage.

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Thanks man that a much better rax load out then what I was using

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I'm in, maxed TH9 defenses. AQ and BK upgrading to lv 21.

I've used today the first time Tuvya/Stich combo and must say it is awesome. In the first boost I've farmed 24k DE, in second boost 20k DE.

Army composition: 14 Giants, 28 Goblins, 54 Archers, 44 Barbs, 12 WB.

Racks 1,2: 4 Giants, 19 Archers, 12 Barbs, 3 WB
Racks 3,4: 3 Giants, 14 Goblins, 8 Archers, 10 Barbs, 3 WB.

CC Wizards, Spells 2 Heal, 2 Rage.

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Agree, it is awesome. I did 24k in just over 2 hours last night boosting. (few non boosted attacks)

I'm so ♥♥♥♥ about keeping my barracks as "easy" as possible and hate re-queuing everything so here's my combo that's been working out pretty easy at TH10.

Racks 1: non stop giants (works out to exactly 14 giants every time)
Racks 2: non stop archers (works out to almost exactly 55 archers every time)
Racks 3: right before I hit 240 I queue 12 WB, 7 goblins, & a few archers
Racks 4: right before I hit 240 I de-queue everything, queue 23 goblins & the rest barbs

They all finish at exactly the same time (~6 minutes) with the almost perfect troop balance per tuvya/stitch comp and I only really have to mess with racks 3 & 4. If I don't use all the WB's or giants I just de-queue the appropriate number and balance the others.

Thanks Stitch and Coldfury for this awesome thread! What trophy level would be ideal for this type of farming for a th9?

id love to hop in and farm my heroes up a bit, but I'm not going to 40 quite yet :p
seeing as how I'm only th9 and can only get them to 30 (which i probably won't even do that) i won't be in it the whole way, but id love to join in until I'm around level 20-25 heroes (currently upgrading aq to 11 and bk to 12)
add me on gc -> Moo Moo Mr. Cow

Hey guys,

Glad you're seeing good success like I am.

If I was to keep both Heroes upgrading and work a bit slower then I'd probably stay around 2,000. It should be possible to make 18 to 22k DE per 2 hour boost (average)

If I had either the BK or AQ to help out then maybe 2,100 to 2,200 would be slightly better, say 20 to 26k DE (average). It's hard to maintain trophies AND get the DE without a hero in my opinion here.

This weekend I've been experimenting by going a bit higher with my level 40 AQ and tried 2,400. It was insane and in 3 x 4 hour sessions (I'm really trying to get the BK finished quickly lol) I had 2 over 60k DE and 1 over 70k DE! The average DE amount seemed to be 2 to 2.2k DE but I found a hot patch and found a number of abandoned TH10s with level 6 drills. I didn't see many level 6 drills down at 2,200 trophies. These bases were offering 3.6k so really boosts the numbers! :) Tuvya told me to max AQ first and then it was easier to farm for BK. I wished I listened to him a bit earlier and increased the trophies. AQ doesn't take too much damage either as a number of bases are still prem up here plus the loot bonus was 200 DE each time as well.

My army comp (and this is the biggest PITA each raid) if you're interested:

Barracks1: 4xGiant, 3xWB, 7xGob, 16xArchers, 11xBarbs
Barracks2: same as 1
Barracks3: 3xGiant, 3xWB, 7xGob, 16xArchers, 17xBarbs
Barracks4: 3xGiant, 3xWB, 10xGob, 15xArchers, 13xBarbs

Note: I always use 100% of the army each raid, even waste troops in the corner if needed, otherwise it's too hard coming back to base and working out what the army for next raid.

I should be finished within 2 weeks. I bet you $10 that Supercell releases a 1 Gem Boost period the following day :D

That base does look in hard to get the De since you have to go through as high hp thing just before you hit it. Though you have 5 extra defensive towers that I dont but I might try something like this. I swapped to cloud whiskeys base the other day which has been working nicely. I'm upgrading my defenses heavily right now for this week so once the big towers are up and running I should be able to protect more De I hope. Had 4.5 mil gold and another 2 hours to play so I just knocked out the lev 3 xbow instead of the lev 2. Was kinda tossing around the idea starting my other one soon but without any xbows man will I be vulnerable and only able to marathon the queen.


Hey stich what level did the queen go beast mode at? At 10 or 11 when tested her she was still dying fast and took building out slowly. I was attacked with a lev 25 queen and she seemed pretty impressive especially when raged. At what level does she 3-4 shot buildings usually?

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Hey stich what level did the queen go beast mode at? At 10 or 11 when tested her she was still dying fast and took building out slowly. I was attacked with a lev 25 queen and she seemed pretty impressive especially when raged. At what level does she 3-4 shot buildings usually?

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When I started my DE journey I think my AQ was 29 and fairly beastly. I'd say 25 was great. I honestly only used her about 5 or 6 times until she was maxed at which point she's turned into a mega beast (even without Rage)! :D

Regarding a DE base design for TH10, you can't go wrong with the below. I've only lost DE to the occasional lightning storm and haven't reloaded a trap in about 3 months either! :):

http://s28.postimg.org/sogeavkql/image.jpg

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When I started my DE journey I think my AQ was 29 and fairly beastly. I'd say 25 was great. I honestly only used her about 5 or 6 times until she was maxed at which point she's turned into a mega beast (even without Rage)! :D

Regarding a DE base design for TH10, you can't go wrong with the below. I've only lost DE to the occasional lightning storm and haven't reloaded a trap in about 3 months either! :):

http://s28.postimg.org/sogeavkql/image.jpg

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I have been looking for a DE protecting base, this looks really good. Just got my queen to 30, so on the final slog.

Do you not struggle maintaining your trophy lvl with the TH so exposed?

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Do you not struggle maintaining your trophy lvl with the TH so exposed?

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I know you asked Stitch, but I'll throw my 2 cents in. For me, I tend to play in stretches of at least 2 hours once or twice a day. So, I'm able to get a bunch of win's in with only 1 loss on the TH snipe defense. 9 times out of 10 it's just a TH snipe too so the trophy's tend to be in the 4-7 range most attacks which is negligible.

However, to your point I didn't play very much at all this weekend and only jumped on to do one attack two or three times after saturday morning and ended up losing those attacks (with lots of good DE) and then add that to a handful of TH snipe losses and my trophy's quickly went from 2000 down into the 1800's. doh

They're easy to get back up though, so I'll be back in Crystal III this evening.

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Hey guys,

Glad you're seeing good success like I am.

If I was to keep both Heroes upgrading and work a bit slower then I'd probably stay around 2,000. It should be possible to make 18 to 22k DE per 2 hour boost (average)

If I had either the BK or AQ to help out then maybe 2,100 to 2,200 would be slightly better, say 20 to 26k DE (average). It's hard to maintain trophies AND get the DE without a hero in my opinion here.

This weekend I've been experimenting by going a bit higher with my level 40 AQ and tried 2,400. It was insane and in 3 x 4 hour sessions (I'm really trying to get the BK finished quickly lol) I had 2 over 60k DE and 1 over 70k DE! The average DE amount seemed to be 2 to 2.2k DE but I found a hot patch and found a number of abandoned TH10s with level 6 drills. I didn't see many level 6 drills down at 2,200 trophies. These bases were offering 3.6k so really boosts the numbers! :) Tuvya told me to max AQ first and then it was easier to farm for BK. I wished I listened to him a bit earlier and increased the trophies. AQ doesn't take too much damage either as a number of bases are still prem up here plus the loot bonus was 200 DE each time as well.

My army comp (and this is the biggest PITA each raid) if you're interested:

Barracks1: 4xGiant, 3xWB, 7xGob, 16xArchers, 11xBarbs
Barracks2: same as 1
Barracks3: 3xGiant, 3xWB, 7xGob, 16xArchers, 17xBarbs
Barracks4: 3xGiant, 3xWB, 10xGob, 15xArchers, 13xBarbs

Note: I always use 100% of the army each raid, even waste troops in the corner if needed, otherwise it's too hard coming back to base and working out what the army for next raid.

I should be finished within 2 weeks. I bet you $10 that Supercell releases a 1 Gem Boost period the following day :D

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I was only able to play for 2 hours on Saturday morning and DE was friggen insane. I stayed in the 2000-2100 range and hit at least 5 or 6 with 3900 DE and barely had any below 1500. I'd say I averaged over 2000 per attack which is the best I've ever done. It was so good, I just kept nexting until I found a 2k+ base to hit and they kept coming. :)
I didn't record what my DE was before I started, but I'm pretty sure it was in the mid 80k's at the beginning of my 2 hour boost session and I finished with 140k.

Either way, it was off the hook and I didn't feel the need to do any more farming the rest of the weekend because I started my next hero upgrade and still had enough left over to do the following one which wasn't for another 4 days. :)

Try max queen first, because she's proer when it comes to farming [even if you so do use giants wb barch at some point in time] vs the king... [the king always tends to run to suicide hehe although he does good damage]

I've been trying to farm in the 2000 range for DE with great success. Took my queen to lvl 12 and witches to lvl 2. Crystal farming sure is different than the gold leagues, but its been great for DE.

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I know you asked Stitch, but I'll throw my 2 cents in. For me, I tend to play in stretches of at least 2 hours once or twice a day. So, I'm able to get a bunch of win's in with only 1 loss on the TH snipe defense. 9 times out of 10 it's just a TH snipe too so the trophy's tend to be in the 4-7 range most attacks which is negligible.

However, to your point I didn't play very much at all this weekend and only jumped on to do one attack two or three times after saturday morning and ended up losing those attacks (with lots of good DE) and then add that to a handful of TH snipe losses and my trophy's quickly went from 2000 down into the 1800's. doh

They're easy to get back up though, so I'll be back in Crystal III this evening.

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Thanks man. Yeah - that's my concern. You are going to waste an evening pushing though, when that time could be used to farm 20/30k de.

I have just spend about 3 months farming de in Champ, if you do get bored, like loons and play in spurts like you said, its an awesome place to be.

Here is a random sample of my att log for someone that asked - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1967416

Anyway, I wish you luck with your quest, I'll be keeping an eye on your thread. My queen is at 30, powerleveling towards max, and my King has been abandoned at 12!

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Thanks man. Yeah - that's my concern. You are going to waste an evening pushing though, when that time could be used to farm 20/30k de.

I have just spend about 3 months farming de in Champ, if you do get bored, like loons and play in spurts like you said, its an awesome place to be.

Here is a random sample of my att log for someone that asked - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1967416

Anyway, I wish you luck with your quest, I'll be keeping an eye on your thread. My queen is at 30, powerleveling towards max, and my King has been abandoned at 12!

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Agree on pushing back into Crystal. It's not ideal and I would have certainly rather not lost my Crystal badge.

I think the "farming base" is really dependent on playing style. It usually works very well for me because I'm on almost every day. What I should have done was shift to trophy mode base for the weekend to hold or more likely gain trohpy's. :)
I think my shield is popping here in a couple hours so I might do that real quick so I don't lose more. :)

Yeah I agree that play style matters on if you need a hybrid base or not. Also your Army type. If you play in sessions its easy to maintain trophies. I just switched recently to cloud whiskey and it was a bit of an adjustment. I can attack spratically sometimes just need to Make sure to win and have at least a medium session here and there to make sure I'm possitive. When I'm doing 2 hour sessions with boosts and loons I go up so many trophies I have plenty to spare. I'd imagine for someone who uses an army that has more trouble 3 staring bases it might be a bit harder

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Do you not struggle maintaining your trophy lvl with the TH so exposed?

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Same as Coldfury, I only play on boost (so 2 hours at a time). This is plenty of time to manage my trophies.

If I was going to logoff in-between raids then I would place the TH inside to help maintain trophies.

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I was only able to play for 2 hours on Saturday morning and DE was friggen insane. I stayed in the 2000-2100 range and hit at least 5 or 6 with 3900 DE and barely had any below 1500. I'd say I averaged over 2000 per attack which is the best I've ever done. It was so good, I just kept nexting until I found a 2k+ base to hit and they kept coming. :)
I didn't record what my DE was before I started, but I'm pretty sure it was in the mid 80k's at the beginning of my 2 hour boost session and I finished with 140k.

Either way, it was off the hook and I didn't feel the need to do any more farming the rest of the weekend because I started my next hero upgrade and still had enough left over to do the following one which wasn't for another 4 days. :)

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That's awesome. I love it when you get those hot streaks. On Saturday I had it the other way. Couldn't find anything over 600 DE, gave up raiding and just donating for the last hour. It's normally stable but can get very Hot or very Cold at times. Can't let it stress you.

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Try max queen first, because she's proer when it comes to farming [even if you so do use giants wb barch at some point in time] vs the king... [the king always tends to run to suicide hehe although he does good damage]

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This is the most efficient way. Now i'm farming in C1 with my level 40 queen I'm making 60k+ every 4 hours.

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Here is a random sample of my att log for someone that asked - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1967416

Anyway, I wish you luck with your quest, I'll be keeping an eye on your thread. My queen is at 30, powerleveling towards max, and my King has been abandoned at 12!

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I farmed both heroes to near 30 with loons/minions doing the same as you.

Trust me, this method is more efficient, more consistent and larger profits. It's also less stressful, less searching and less reliant on collector bases.

Seeing as it takes hundreds of hours to max heroes in my opinion it's better to farm DE in Crystal with no DE troops, overall.

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Yeah I agree that play style matters on if you need a hybrid base or not. Also your Army type. If you play in sessions its easy to maintain trophies. I just switched recently to cloud whiskey and it was a bit of an adjustment. I can attack spratically sometimes just need to Make sure to win and have at least a medium session here and there to make sure I'm possitive. When I'm doing 2 hour sessions with boosts and loons I go up so many trophies I have plenty to spare. I'd imagine for someone who uses an army that has more trouble 3 staring bases it might be a bit harder

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TH9s will struggle more than 10s. I'm pretty much attacking any TH9 with DE not in the dead center. Or if their TH is outside I'll attack any TH9. 6 archers on their TH and then a full army getting to the DE storage. Normally 1 rage is enough.

If a TH10 can play in sessions then TH outside is fine, otherwise you might benefit from inside. However there are a ton of DE farmers about there so make sure your DE storage is heavily protected. Next to both Infernos (multi) is a good start.

Cheers Stitch. Always value your input.

Also, I think I have mastered Edward from Quantums Loon 2 starring trick with Golums. If you run a Loonion Academy, I'd love to pop over.

I'll see you in the forum CW event if your there anyway.

I ended up working late last night so couldn't play, but as I mentioned I put my TH inside to keep from dropping anymore trophy's. Well the good news is My trophy's went from the mid 1800's to over 2100 in the last 12 hours or so. The bad news is the majority of them were lightning strikes over and over. lol

I'll occasionally get zapped with the TH outside, but almost always they'll grab the TH, so it's limited to 1 attack.

I don't really mind the DE swap though because it saved me an hour or two pushing the 150 trophy's back, but my net loss was around 5k DE overall. :)

Put the TH back outside this morning and within 2 or 3 minutes had my free shield. :)

Hi Guy's, loving this thread.
I'm near maxed TH9 (5 AT's left) but figured on getting Heros up as high as possible before TH10 (as frankly, I imagine that there is so much else to do)
Currently have AQ12 and BK13 is cooking.

I also have only DE upgrades left in Lab to do.

What the question is really, is this a mistake (DE protection wise)?
Should I go up to TH10 and get those infernos?

Clan - Squarerootof-1
IGN - Royboy2011ff

Appreciate yr opinion.

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Hi Guy's, loving this thread.
I'm near maxed TH9 (5 AT's left) but figured on getting Heros up as high as possible before TH10 (as frankly, I imagine that there is so much else to do)
Currently have AQ12 and BK13 is cooking.

I also have only DE upgrades left in Lab to do.

What the question is really, is this a mistake (DE protection wise)?
Should I go up to TH10 and get those infernos?

Clan - Squarerootof-1
IGN - Royboy2011ff

Appreciate yr opinion.

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I'm sure there are varying opinions, but I'll throw out an "it depends" from my perspective.

At TH9, it is noticeably easier and faster to farm gold because of the abundance of TH8's to cream. Obviously you lose those when you go to TH10, so you have to work a little harder for gold on TH9/10 bases only. It's still good, just not "as good".

However, with DE I've actually found it easier and faster to farm DE as a TH10 because the bases worth hitting are almost exclusively TH9/10 anyways so the extra 20 troop spaces, extra spell, and gob/WB upgrades help quite a bit on that endeavor. Throw in the extra DE drill and it just makes it makes life easier.

As you mentioned, there's no question that the IT's make it easier to protect your DE. With max TH9 defenses, and a pair of IT's in multi your DE attacks outside of zaps are virtually non-existent. Then again, depending on your playing style and time it may be a non issue. If you have a farming base layout and only get attacked once or twice a day with the majority being TH snipes then the savings may be minimal.

So, all that being said, it really depends on what your goals are. If you're still farming walls primary with heroes secondary then I'd say hang out at TH9 a little longer because the gold will be faster/easier and DE farming is still more than adequate for heroes/lab.
If you're good to go on your walls and focus on heroes/DE upgrades then I'd recommend bumping up to TH10 for the reasons mentioned above.

Don't forget as well, when you go to TH10 you're pretty much set back a solid month because of all the baby building/defense upgrades and you'll shift your primary farming focus to elixir for all the camp/drill/lab upgrades.
When I went TH10 I was about 6 weeks away from having all my TH9 defenses maxed. I'm about 2 months into TH10 now and I'm still 6 weeks away from having all my TH9 defenses maxed because i've been building/upgrading everything else. 2 IT's to lvl 2, 3rd xbow to lvl 3, 4 camps, DE drill, new AT, new cannon, new mine, new elixir pump, etc.

I personally went to TH10 a little early due to having all my lego's finished and wanting to get IT's for CW defenses. I also wanted to shift my focus towards heroes and was ok gradually adding my lava walls over time.

Hope this helps.

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just noticed your clan name. I like it. I used to be a math nerd when I was younger. :)

Yeah, still 70 LVL9's let to get so net 100M Gold + 7 for the TH.
Another couple of weeks or so then I guess.

Good advice and thank you :-)

Anyone here farming DE up in crystal I - master with barch?

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Anyone here farming DE up in crystal I - master with barch?

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Hey Reb,

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I'm farming DE in Crystal 1. 90% of bases have the DE in the storage (inside the base). 8% have DE in the pumps but active bases and 2% are abandoned.

I need giants/wall breakers and AQ to crack over 2k per raid here.
I need giants/wall breakers and no heroes in C2.
I could probably barch DE for 1.2 to 1.4k per raid in C3. Slow going though as DE is still in the storage most of the time.

Man you guys got me thinking maybe I'm missing out on loot by using mainly all looonians for De farming. Can I get your guys estimate on averages without heroes? Seems like you guys might be around 40-50 k average or so which is more than Me i'm usually around 25 but I get most of that while at work. I'm trying to use longer builds and less screen time when at home so i would only be able to do tier one marathons when wife is gone or asleep or something.


Edit: I see stich said about 10k De per hour boosting. What would your estimate be fury?

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Man you guys got me thinking maybe I'm missing out on loot by using mainly all looonians for De farming. Can I get your guys estimate on averages without heroes? Seems like you guys might be around 40-50 k average or so which is more than Me i'm usually around 25 but I get most of that while at work. I'm trying to use longer builds and less screen time when at home so i would only be able to do tier one marathons when wife is gone or asleep or something.


Edit: I see stich said about 10k De per hour boosting. What would your estimate be fury?

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Obviously it varies based on how loot's doing during the particular time and how many "collector" bases I see. I still can't pass up a 300k/300k base that has little or no DE. lol

On the very low side, if loot is really crappy I get 1000-1500 per attack and get 5-6 attacks per hour (boosted). So, that's been a worst case scenario in lower Crystal III of around 7k.
Pushing into higher Crystal III (2100+) there are a lot more 2000+ raids available and I tend to next until I hit those. I've only been doing the new farming method with giants for about a week, but I've been consistently hitting between 10k-12k per hour (boosted) up there chasing the 2k+ bases.
In an earlier post I mentioned on Saturday morning where it was just crazytown. I hit several 4k dead bases with full lvl 6 drills and don't think I had a single attack in two hours that netted me less than 2k.
For that boost period I was over 30k per hour, but that's in no way common and has only happened to me once in the last couple weeks.

I did try to do some DE farming the weekend before last with balloons/minions up in Crystal I/Masters III and I was able to steadily make progress, but the 660k DE "tax" for minions (24 loons, 60 minions) every attack eats into profits pretty fast.
You obviously know how you're doing with them, but I only managed to do between 6-8k per hour boosted with loons.

Overall, with several days off, clan wars, and life in general going on I've managed to loot 347,405 total in the last 15 days. So my average daily DE looted (based on HH) is 23,160 per day, but as I mentioned I've taken at least 4 days off completely and even last night only did 1 or 2 (non boosted) attacks so it's hard to estimate daily farming very accurately.

I'm currently sitting on 91.5k with 2.5 days left until I start BK16, so it's been very easy to stay ahead of my upgrades. I'm considering starting my Golem 5 upgrade in the next week or two just to get it out of the way now so I don't have to try and do it later when the heroes are "really" expensive. :)