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Can any body please explain how the damage from mortar is calculated? It can't simply be what it is stated in the in-game profile because a lv 1 mortar, which deals 4 pps damage, kills a group of lv 1 goblins with 2 or 3 direct hits, which at most should only be 12 points of damage.
Thx in advance.
That's because the mortar fires less then one shot per second e.g. one every three seconds.
This means that it does more damage then the DPS suggests.
Which I do think is pretty misleading...
What you said makes sense, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by IRoss
Yeah it is misleading because if damage is calculated by points per second, then it should be calculated as total damage done (on a single target of course) divided by total time elasped. But considering mortars miss often (unlike others defenses which always hit), describing mortar damage by pps is not exactly accurate. It is mind boggling why they chose this way instead of just saying "damage=12", as in "4pps X 3s = 12 points" and each upgrade adds 3 points.
It's not mind boggling. All of the damage in the game is listed in the same units. Why should they treat the mortar differently simply because it might miss? It really is not a major intellectual leap to understand that the damage assumes a hit and is per target.Quote:
Originally Posted by zxzxj
Listing damage per shot is stupid unless you also list the shot rate. DPS incorporates both of those values in a single number. It accurately reflects the fact that if you have a mortar against a high hp target like a giant it won't be nearly as effective as a cannon which has a much higher dps.
Why do people have to defend the fact that the mortar dps is inaccurate? I don't get it. A mortar of say 7 dps clearly does more damage to a group of units then it states. All we want is an accurate reading of the total damage at point of impact... Not that hard to do really. Of course now ill be chewed out by those people sayin it's not fair to do that etc.. Pull it out of ur $@@& and take positive feedback rather then putting your own negative input.
And why it is so hard for you to understand the fact that it takes more than 1second for a mortar to fire 1 shot? indeed its 5 seconds to be exact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sickofunfairmatching
by observation you can see:
with an archer lvl 5 has 40 hit points
a mortar lvl 4 (7 dps) hit the archer : 7x 5 seconds = 35 total damage . archer till alive
a mortar lvl 5 (8 dps) hit the archer : 8x 5 seconds = 40 total damage . bai bai archer.
then again, I dont know why SuperCell use the damage per second system instead of damage per shot. Clearly the other damage per shot would be easier for people to understand. But its how it is, live it it.
No, that's all you want. I want an accurate assessment of how much damage the weapon is going to do over time. Per shot is useless because it could fire once a second or once a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sickofunfairmatching
Why you and the rest like you can't get the concept of damage per second through your thick skulls I'll never know. Your comment that it does more damage then it states indicates that this concept is simply beyond your level of understanding.
It does exactly as much damage as it states, you simply lack the intellectual capacity to figure this out or to be able to reason that the units being expressed for the mortar are identical to all of the other weapons.
People who are thinking about damage per second of defend buildings are no-lifers. Don't be frustrated and re-calculating those things, it's a game! Be professional and deal with it and keep winning :confused:
Damage per shot system is not stupid, many other games use it. I really don't where you get the idea that it is stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahimi
The reason I said COC uses the damage per second system is mind boggling is because usually this system is applied to the continous output units. The toxin tractors from Command and Conquer: General is a perfect example. Whereas for discrete output units, damage per shot should be more clear. Examples are numerous.
I have to agree with you here. I'm struggling to think of an example in many years of gaming where a weapon that has discernible shots that have damage pre-identified were not annotated as per-shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by zxzxj
Items like flame throwers, poison damage, freeze weapons, things of this nature without fail I have always seen identified as damage per second, or something like - xx damage on hit, then xx damage per second, etc.
Things that are "too fast" to have discernible shots - the x-bow for instance might be a candidate to be in per-second damage since it goes so fast. It does 50 dmg per second, best I can tell from replays, it's about 5 shots per second at 10 dmg each? I like seeing 50 per second versus 10 per shot.
I'm not even positive how the mortar does the damage, even with a number per second/per shot. Does it do x amount on the spot it lands, then a different xx amount 1 space out, and xx 2 spaces out? Or 3 squares of splash damage gets xx - or everything within it's splash zone gets the same 11 dmg per second (or 55 if it's really every 5 seconds).