Collector Visuals Changed?

I was wondering why Supercell secretly changed the collector fullness visuals in the last update. When you are looking at collector raids the first thing you do is zoom in on how full the gold or dark elixir or elixir pumps are and from that you can estimate how much is available. Ever since the update I have seen raids with much much lower amounts available but still showing the same available loot visual. I was wondering why they did this and if anyone noticed it.


This pretty much sums it up.

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Originally Posted by AThor

It is definitely changed. I dont know why people are complaining about it changing loot or base selection though. I'm pretty sure there is no change to the percent you can take from collectors, just a change in collector visuals. Before, even a thin layer of elixir indicated a good collector raid. Now, the next thickest layer indicates a good raid.

The first "full" illustration used to be about 30k, now i think it's 20k. It's slightly annoying, but not a big change. Just need to recalibrate how you look at the collector visuals.

Im fairly new here, but it is amusing how every change gets viewed as some Supercell conspiracy to make people buy more gems.

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I noticed the same, it only takes ~15k or 16k elixer/gold to fill it past the first animation, opposed to the previous 32kish

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Originally Posted by REDWALL

I noticed the same, it only takes ~15k or 16k elixer/gold to fill it past the first animation, opposed to the previous 32kish

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I screwed up a 200k raid thanks to this. I thought it was in the collectors thanks to the graphic and only got ~50k and no stars :(

Noticed it too... Thought i was going insane :O
what purpose would this serve other than to stop people farming for abandoned bases easily? i can still do it, it just takes a bit more thought to choose the right base... and again, why did they not inform us of this? instead of me asking every person i know if he noticed a difference.

Yeah that was NOT cool of them to do!

I was like happy, and then I wasn't. :rolleyes:

Really? I've been doing nothing but farming with Tier 1 troops for the last month. Can't say I've noticed any changes.

Not doubting you but can't say I've noticed.

Are you sure there just isn't loot in the CC? A few times I've cleared all storages and there has been a lot left over, turns out it was in their Centralised CC (quite annoying).

Quick way to fix this. Raid storages instead

it has definately changed, but I don't mind.
You just need to get accustomed to it.

Woah, is this true?! I thought I noticed my collectors filling up more but thought it was because I hadn't collected as often as usual. I just Barched someone for a solid 300k and only earned 150k when it appeared to be in the collectors.

Can we get official comment on this one??

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Really? I've been doing nothing but farming with Tier 1 troops for the last month. Can't say I've noticed any changes.

Not doubting you but can't say I've noticed.

Are you sure there just isn't loot in the CC? A few times I've cleared all storages and there has been a lot left over, turns out it was in their Centralised CC (quite annoying).

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i think it only started about a day ago...
and about the "raid storages instead" comment, well:
some people, want to attack every 20 minutes instead of every 1 hour. so they use archers, which cant possibly dig deep enough into a base to get to the storages.

I thought i was going crazy too. Glad its not jsut me. Some official comment would be nice, is it a bug or glitch, or was it intentionally changed? Ive noticed it only since the update.

I can confirm it's changed. I am not new to farming and i can already see same visuals offering 100k in loot which was a guaranteed 200k before. It's annoying.

Why i feel they changed percentages and not just visuals..
Don't even feel like farming now

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Originally Posted by GooseFraba

I can confirm it's changed. I am not new to farming and i can already see same visuals offering 100k in loot which was a guaranteed 200k before. It's annoying.

Why i feel they changed percentages and not just visuals..
Don't even feel like farming now

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'That's the sad thing about this change... i use to be o.k with attacking a full collectors base which had 100k..
Now i dont take the risk, knowing it could possibly have only 30k if i see 100k. i attack only 200k+(which are rare)

This is the first time i've seen something happen in this game that seems distinctly anti-player. Farming is an established gameplay and Supercell appear (either deliberately or though fault) to be penalising farmers. As a player who regularly farms but also spends £££ on gems it makes me very unhappy. I hope they fix this so it's back to previous levels.

Not happy about this at all. I have already messed up a few raids thinking the collectors were offering much more then they were.

I'm moving up to Masters ATM and finding Crystal barching different to gold barching so the rewards seem less over all. But the collectors are "tricking" me into attacking and looting poorly, plus losing trophies because of bloody xbows!

Stop being lazy guys, I think this is cool from SC, less lazy collector raids... And for people who think cooking an army to get storage takes one hour, damn, stop barching and you'll see there's plenty of other combos that take the same training time.

Anyway, just having a look here after a month away, glad to see there's still so many whiners.

They do this because they want us to believe that loot is fine again and the only problem is us I just found a th8 with half full collectors and only 60k available loot

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

Stop being lazy guys, I think this is cool from SC, less lazy collector raids... And for people who think cooking an army to get storage takes one hour, damn, stop barching and you'll see there's plenty of other combos that take the same training time.

Anyway, just having a look here after a month away, glad to see there's still so many whiners.

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It's not laziness. Please don't tar some of us with the same morons that moan about OP Hogs or "no loot". If this is deliberate, then it's very anti-farming, which is frankly core gameplay and if it's by accident, i.e. a bug then it needs fixing. If they have done it deliberately, then where's the explanation? I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to someone from Supercell to come and explain why this has changed, there might be genuine balance needs!

Official comment please?

It is definitely changed. I dont know why people are complaining about it changing loot or base selection though. I'm pretty sure there is no change to the percent you can take from collectors, just a change in collector visuals. Before, even a thin layer of elixir indicated a good collector raid. Now, the next thickest layer indicates a good raid.

The first "full" illustration used to be about 30k, now i think it's 20k. It's slightly annoying, but not a big change. Just need to recalibrate how you look at the collector visuals.

Im fairly new here, but it is amusing how every change gets viewed as some Supercell conspiracy to make people buy more gems.

I don't think this is anti-farming, I guess they just want to make collector raids harder. But it's not like if there were three frames for collectors (empty/half full/full). You have 4 or 5 I guess, and now that you know the first one appears at 16 and not 32, you just need to adjust.

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

Stop being lazy guys, I think this is cool from SC, less lazy collector raids... And for people who think cooking an army to get storage takes one hour, damn, stop barching and you'll see there's plenty of other combos that take the same training time.

Anyway, just having a look here after a month away, glad to see there's still so many whiners.

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We are being lazy? Its funny watching people like you crop out with such comments.

It's a game run by inactives because mines don't do a thing for a player who is active.
People say go do storage raids. Sure good idea. But ever thought how those storage raids get to be storage raids at all? They too either do collector raids or storage raids and i can keep repeating it and it ultimately falls back on inactives funding storages FOR storage raids.

STOP commenting if u don't understand anything

NEEDS TO BE FIXED OR FARMERS GONNA STUFF UP TOO MUCH.
Stuffed up earlier today...

http://i.imgur.com/Oz2pvoS.jpg

As you can see there are 6 lvl 11 Gold mines. Before the update that little amount of gold in them meant they were 20%-50% full. Max capacity of a lvl 11 gold mine is 150k so that meant the minimum amount of gold in those mines would be 6 x 20% of 150K or 6 x 30K or 180K gold.
Now we are able to steal 50% of the available loot from collectors so that means 90K gold. And i'm a TH9 so a 10% loot penalty applies in this case so only 81K gold.
So basicly pre update when I saw 6 mines like that it meant I would be able to steal atleast 81k gold from them, but look at the max amount of gold available in the picture.

This can mean 2 things, either they reduced the % of loot you can steal from collectors or they changed them visually so they look a bit fuller than before (basicly needing less than 20% for gold to show up in the small box next to the mine)

http://imgur.com/KfJBw8Q
http://imgur.com/jqFjLZm

On lvl 10 collector only 8k...

On topic:

Yeah, there must have been a change. Already shortly after the update I noticed that, and so did a lot of people in my clan. Not sure yet if I like it or hate it (I'm a collector barcher), I don't think it hurts. The only thing that truly hurts me personally is that Supercell has spent so much effort at planning all these announcements, sneak peeks, and ingame-info on the changes but this one which is widely affecting all the farmers they haven't.

If it is a glitch, it shall be forgiven. I hope we can get an official comment on that soon, that'd be appreciated. I just can't stand when they try to sneak changes in and try to pretend only idiots are playing this game and we won't notice anyway.

Anyway - can't say if I hate or like it. It HAS been affecting me, but only for 2 raids, then I've learned from it and adapted already. I find quite good loot atm, am a satisfied farmer. :cool:

Edit: I also think it's only a visual change. The numbers are most likely the same as before, just the graphic changed. Looking at the Exp bar graphic flaw, this one might aswell also happened un-planned.

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

Stop being lazy guys, I think this is cool from SC, less lazy collector raids... And for people who think cooking an army to get storage takes one hour, damn, stop barching and you'll see there's plenty of other combos that take the same training time.

Anyway, just having a look here after a month away, glad to see there's still so many whiners.

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Now to you, sir, Sherlock fkn Holmes, where do you think do these "full storage" people have their gold n elixir from? Ever thought about that?

Maybe its a glitch that will be fixed just like the xp bar, I really hope supcercell doesn't stoop to this level of anti-farming because it will drive a lot of its players away from the game to something else. To whoever said "raid storages"...

http://i58.tinypic.com/fdyge8.jpg

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Originally Posted by R3taliate

Quick way to fix this. Raid storages instead

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You can't tell if the storages have much in them most of the time.

Why are you calling this "anti-farming"? There is the same amount of loot in collectors as before, I am certain of that. All you have to do is adapt to it, really.

Its much worse than anti-farming if it was done on purpose, its actually intentionally misleading the player to waste his/her time and troops. :(

I think it is stupid. I am a farmer and now I can't get anything out of the collectors. I spend money on Jim's it makes me wanna not even play anymore.

Don't think it's as bad as you guys think. We just have to get used to the new visuals. If you want 100k just look for collectors with the second visual. For gold mines don't look for specks in the box, but look for clumps. What it also does (and that pro-farming) is make people skip bases with specks. It is pro-farming because it gives collectors time to fill up beyond the point where we would've previously raided them:rolleyes:. Because it is harder to tell wether gold is in the storages or collectors we will see more reasonably filled collectors raids in the future. It's just redistributing the gold more evenly I think.

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Originally Posted by Benny101

Don't think it's as bad as you guys think. We just have to get used to the new visuals. If you want 100k just look for collectors with the second visual. For gold mines don't look for specks in the box, but look for clumps. What it also does (and that pro-farming) is make people skip bases with specks. It is pro-farming because it gives collectors time to fill up beyond the point where we would've previously raided them:rolleyes:. Because it is harder to tell wether gold is in the storages or collectors we will see more reasonably filled collectors raids in the future. It's just redistributing the gold more evenly I think.

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Well spoken! However, it remains to be seen if that was their actual intention...

I've noticed it, and it is quite annoying.

I just noticed this. Found a 150k base and end up with 40k in mines. Sigh

just a glitch....there is zero point in changing the visuals of the collectors even for SC :rolleyes:...im sure it will be fixed along with that full xp bar visual in a maintenance break or something

and even if it isn't.....has the wiki information about collectors changed? i'll give it some time till after the next break and then check there first before confirming a deliberate change

for lots of loot available...just check the storage level in the base....that gives an even better idea than the collectors about where most of the loot is

I havent noticed any changes in the collectors

I noticed this as well, and it did disappoint me. Hopefully they listen to us and reverse this change.

I did fail some raids because of that ..
I guess we'll get used to it, but changing this without telling the players is just shameful behavior from SC.

I noticed it too. I thought it was something to do with being a new th10 but I guess it has been changed for everybody.

It sucked for the few battles where I didn't get as much loot as I thought I was going to get but you gotta get used to it. I don't mind the change now. If collectors are half full it's not worth it... but when they are full or nearly full then raid is on.

It's definitely true, 4/5 of my nexts now have the first stage of fullness on collectors, it can be quite deceiving I think :p

I know it is not a big deal. I have noticed it, and it hasnt affected me, I just change who I am aiming now. I am still barching and getting good loot. It will just be good to know if this is a glitch or permanent so we can adjust accordingly.

P.S. This is not some sort of anti-farming conspiracy.. probably a glitch or a bug, just like the XP bar.

Thanks

Yah, same problem with me, also a collector looks completely full when it is at 100k, and it used to be 120k.

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Originally Posted by raargg

i think it only started about a day ago...
and about the "raid storages instead" comment, well:
some people, want to attack every 20 minutes instead of every 1 hour. so they use archers, which cant possibly dig deep enough into a base to get to the storages.

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Learn to do the storage raids then with barch or bam. And yes it is feasible, just takes practice. Also you don't need spells so you can do it every 20 minutes or less if you aren't using up all your troops. Most bases that are intended to defend against tier 2 or 3 troops are weak against barch.

I believe the collectors image has been changed OP. Supercell probably wants us to stop farming.

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Originally Posted by hindukid

I know it is not a big deal. I have noticed it, and it hasnt affected me, I just change who I am aiming now. I am still barching and getting good loot. It will just be good to know if this is a glitch or permanent so we can adjust accordingly.

P.S. This is not some sort of anti-farming conspiracy.. probably a glitch or a bug, just like the XP bar.

Thanks

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Ya but they haven't fixed the time bug yet and it's only approaching its 2 year old birthday.

The visual appearance of mines and pumps certainly has changed in regards to the quantity of available loot present prior to showing a full state. In most cases, a simple visual check of the available loot is all that is needed to confirm whether the full state is actually the full state. The problem comes from those bases that are on the boundary in terms of showing full state collectors, substantial available loot and slight filling of the storages.

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Originally Posted by HockeyMan

Learn to do the storage raids then with barch or bam. And yes it is feasible, just takes practice. Also you don't need spells so you can do it every 20 minutes or less if you aren't using up all your troops. Most bases that are intended to defend against tier 2 or 3 troops are weak against barch.

I believe the collectors image has been changed OP. Supercell probably wants us to stop farming.

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I'm usually changing between crystal/gold 1 league, the bases with high loot for me (im th 9, nearly fully maxed, except walls ofcourse) are usualy too strong for "barch/bam" getting to the storages which tbh, i've never heard of until today. i'll try it anyway, thx :)

This is a pretty sad move from SC. To be honest, I wouldn't have cared if they had put it in the release notes. It's the fact that they did it without telling us that really pisses me off. This games going to die for farmers soon.

Yeah, of course, you just look for fuller storages, I'm not dumb. But that's not the point. Why is it like this? Ah well, guess it'll be one of those things Supercell will never explain.:D

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Originally Posted by HockeyMan

Ya but they haven't fixed the time bug yet and it's only approaching its 2 year old birthday.

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Time bug is something that is server related. This is just a graphical glitch..

Dont thinK so

Still no comment from SC or a single Mod? Things that make me go hmmm....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Really? I've been doing nothing but farming with Tier 1 troops for the last month. Can't say I've noticed any changes.

Not doubting you but can't say I've noticed.

Are you sure there just isn't loot in the CC? A few times I've cleared all storages and there has been a lot left over, turns out it was in their Centralised CC (quite annoying).

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Lol, happened to me too.
Destroyed everything with gold in it and there was still left. Was like ♥♥♥, where is that last collector?

​urghhh same here finding it annoying

Yes. I noticed it too. It was frustrating me till i figured it out.

also laughed at a few clanmates not luring cc troops bc they thought the base with full collectors and mines were abandoned.

now we all get it. But i still like the old visuals better. It was more accurate.

I am more used to the old visuals, but I have always farmed storages. Seeing a base with 200k+ loot and full storages made me doubtful sometimes now, do I spread my army to take down all collectors and some storages or do I go in deep and take out all the storages... Choices.. Choices...

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Originally Posted by SargeantZeal

I am more used to the old visuals, but I have always farmed storages. Seeing a base with 200k+ loot and full storages made me doubtful sometimes now, do I spread my army to take down all collectors and some storages or do I go in deep and take out all the storages... Choices.. Choices...

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I went for the storages
Loot was in fact, in the collectors and mines

You just need to get used to it. For a collector raid you just have to look for mines and pumps that are fuller than what you used to go for. Works like a charm. I'm hauling in a lot of gold today. Just adapt.

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Originally Posted by HockeyMan

Learn to do the storage raids then with barch or bam. And yes it is feasible, just takes practice. Also you don't need spells so you can do it every 20 minutes or less if you aren't using up all your troops. Most bases that are intended to defend against tier 2 or 3 troops are weak against barch.

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You my friend cannot read. The other guys said that the storage raids are becuase the people who have loot raid from inactives. If person x wants loot, and he goes for storage raids against person z, person z only can have loot if there are collector raids. Your logic is flawed. Please think before you post on forums and tell others how they should farm. Trust me, we all can farm. We dont need you to tell us what to do. The op was asking if there is a visual change, not how supercell should fix loot.

please, please, please, if you dont have any helpful advice, dont say it. You cant barch storages. Maybe at th8 you could, but were th9, and there, you cant barch against lv7 mortars and wizard towers. Good luck mate, youll learn that barching storages at th9 just.. Doesnt work.

have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by SorrowCat

I went for the storages
Loot was in fact, in the collectors and mines

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Meant to say full collectors in my previous post but somehow got mixed and wrote full storages instead.

Happened to me too... And a couple of times I got it reversed, went for the collectors and mines but got next to nothing...

Just need time to adapt, meguess...

Has anyone been able to pinpoint the exact amount that the first full visual appears? My collectors just showed it at 13k. Much lower than i even thought.

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Originally Posted by Benny101

You just need to get used to it. For a collector raid you just have to look for mines and pumps that are fuller than what you used to go for. Works like a charm. I'm hauling in a lot of gold today. Just adapt.

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There's no "fuller" than full. The graphic has changed so that pumps show being full when they're not. My pumps currently show being full at 14k, which is a far cry from 150k.

I have noticed the visuals have changed also. I be like yay 30k in my collectors but it only be like 13k and Im like aww shucks

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Originally Posted by DroogJanus

Can we get official comment on this one??

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Totally agree. Not even a mention of it in the release notes?

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Originally Posted by hindukid

Time bug is something that is server related. This is just a graphical glitch..

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Still hasn't been fixed. If the time bug shortened build (and other) times, I am sure Supercell would fix it immediately.

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Originally Posted by Therussianmaster

You my friend cannot read. The other guys said that the storage raids are becuase the people who have loot raid from inactives. If person x wants loot, and he goes for storage raids against person z, person z only can have loot if there are collector raids. Your logic is flawed. Please think before you post on forums and tell others how they should farm. Trust me, we all can farm. We dont need you to tell us what to do. The op was asking if there is a visual change, not how supercell should fix loot.

please, please, please, if you dont have any helpful advice, dont say it. You cant barch storages. Maybe at th8 you could, but were th9, and there, you cant barch against lv7 mortars and wizard towers. Good luck mate, youll learn that barching storages at th9 just.. Doesnt work.

have a nice day.

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First paragraph I agree with other than the part about my logic. I know all this and how the coc economy depends on inactives or people gemming. I have "complained" about it before. They really need to add another lv of collectors if Supercell wants coc to keep going. Please don't talk about me not "knowing" this and how my logic is flawed. And btw, I was talking on the personal level, for one to satisfy his quench for loot.

2 more things:

1. I often will attack an exposed th9 storage with barch, snipe th, and gain 100k with 50 troops used.

2. If you are th9 just pick on us th8s. One guy stole 600k loot from me with barch getting 82% but only 1 star (missed my th on the outside lol). He used lv6 troops against my almost maxed th8 base. For the record, I am using Orz's Tempest.

P.S. To do a proper storage raid against a th9 or 10 isn't possible as you say. You can only trophy hunt against them or do an exposed storage raid.

Yes, it's a ploy to get players to stop Nexting so much and it's also to aid in helping players get defends.

Ive been seeing my collectors have the animations come quicker. But I don't really care, doesn't effect anything.

I wish they'd fix that, its soo annoying. I got caught out by this twice yesterday :mad: